为什么 Nvidia、特斯拉、亚马逊等公司都大举投资人工智能人形机器人,”机器人取代人们不想要的工作,人工智能取代人们想要的工作“
2024-07-11 平平躺平 5595
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@asianjedi3100
Jus like AI, Robots are next big growth story

就像人工智能一样,机器人也是下一个增长热点
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@zhli4238
It's all powered by AI chips. The race is still on the semiconductors. Nvidia market capitalization went from $2 trillion to $3 trillion in a few months in this year, people were wondering how that could possibly be, but if you think about the possibilities, it is just the beginning.

这一切都由人工智能芯片驱动。竞争仍在半导体领域展开。今年几个月内,英伟达的市值从 2 万亿美元飙升至 3 万亿美元,人们想知道这是怎么回事,但如果你考虑一下各种可能性,就会发现这只是一个开始。

@e.v.k.3632
Robots take the undesired jobs and AI the desired

机器人取代人们不想要的工作,人工智能取代人们想要的工作
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@Tobi-kr1yp
500 people would lose their jobs and their would probably be 3 management jobs available. Everyone will be poor with no jobs available. These jobs are just the starting point

500 人将失业,可能只剩下 3 个管理职位。每个人都会因为没有工作而变得贫穷。这些工作只是基础性的工作。

@raycom777
"don't worry. you will get a job as a manager of the robots". LOL

“别担心。你会得到一份机器人经理的工作。”哈哈

@xlynx9
What these leaders state doesn't add up. Why would companies develop robots if they didn't save on labor?
I think there is a possible scenario where it's true. It's about scale. An age of abundance where the robotic workforce is larger than the human population. Where production is 24/7. It would be possible to decouple economic growth from population growth, which could solve a lot of problems with infrastructure, housing, immigration etc. GDP per capita could skyrocket.

这些领导人说的话根本说不通。如果公司不能节省劳动力,他们为什么要开发机器人呢?我认为在某种情况下这是真的。这关乎规模。在一个富足的时代,机器人劳动力的数量超过了人类人口。生产是全天候的。经济增长与人口增长脱钩是可能的,这可以解决基础设施、住房、移民等许多问题。人均国内生产总值可能会飙升。

@LunaErosStudios
Exactly. Even if that was anywhere near true, say person A's job evolves into managing the robots in their department from job A that they had, what happens to the other people's jobs from job B to Z? You think corporate America (or whatever country) is gonna have each human replaced with a robot be a manager of just the robot that is now doing their job? Not a chance. Especially if the cost to run the robot is basically just the cost of electricity. Every single person in the workforce has seen how these companies will cut costs at the drop of a hat for the greed of executives and shareholders. Luckily at my age I don't think I'll see enough massive rollout of these across the job market before I either check out of by some miracle am able to retire (like that'll happen) but generations younger than me are F'ed because I certainly don't see the asset owning class allowing the proposed solution of UBI (Universal Basic Income) being enacted to this mass human replacement problem ever allowed to happen.

确实。即使那接近真实情况,比如说,A先生的工作演变成了管理他们部门里的机器人,从他原本的工作A变成了管理工作的A,那B工作到Z工作的那些人的岗位会发生什么呢?你认为企业美国(或任何国家)会用机器人取代每个人类,然后让这个机器人只做他们之前的工作,并且让这个人成为仅仅管理这个机器人的经理吗?门儿都没有。特别是如果运行机器人的成本基本上只是电费的时候。在职的每一个人都见识过这些公司会如何为了高管和股东的贪婪而立即削减成本。幸运的是,在我这样的年纪,我不认为在我退休或者奇迹般地能够退休之前,我会看到这些机器人大规模地进入就业市场(好像那会发生一样),但是比我年轻的一代就惨了,因为我肯定看不到资产所有者阶级会允许实施所谓的UBI(全民基本收入)解决方案来应对这种大规模人类被替代的问题。
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@richardgirgis822
There are already a lot of people working these lower level jobs who are struggling. People losing those low-level jobs to robots isn't going to help society. It's going to help those who are rich enough to afford the robots.

已经有很多从事这些低级工作的人在苦苦挣扎。人们因为机器人而失去这些低级工作,这对社会没有帮助。这只会帮助那些有钱买得起机器人的人。

@user-so9it3gx2x
There isn't a " labor shortage " there is a paying people fairly problem.

并不存在“劳动力短缺”的问题,而是存在公平支付工资的问题。

@fevsea
"Jobs we can't fill" == "not willing to pay a living wage"

“我们无法填补的工作” == “不愿意支付体面的工资”

@Peter-jc4by
“I think artificial intelligence has the ability to create infinitely stable dictatorships” - Ilya Sutskever

“我认为人工智能有能力创造无限稳定的独裁统治”——Ilya Sutskever

@Doran_Krotan
It's not that I don't trust AI-Powered Humanoid Robots, I don't trust humans.

并不是我不信任人工智能人形机器人,而是我不信任人类。

@rotomRASENGAN
Hope that Will Smith will still be around once they start going rogue.

希望当他们开始叛变时威尔史密斯仍然会在。

@pnketia
I feel sorry for Gen Z and later because without UBI they are going to find it hard to compete in a workforce where your competition doesn't take a salary, doesn't get sick, doesn't require health benefits, can work 24/7 nonstop, won't complain and doesn't need a degree or four years of schooling.

我为 Z 世代及以后的人感到遗憾,因为如果没有 UBI,他们将很难在劳动力市场中竞争,因为你的竞争对手不拿薪水、不会生病、不需要健康福利、可以不间断地全天候工作、不会抱怨、不需要学位或四年的学校教育。

@JayP787
So theyd rather invest billions in robots rather than paying realistic wages for jobs “people don’t want”

因此,他们宁愿投资数十亿美元购买机器人,也不愿为“人们不想要的”工作支付现实的工资
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@Mia-bixoxo
I work at Amazon, unfortunately, and these are our replacements. Jesus.

不幸的是,我在亚马逊工作,这些人是我们的替代者。天呐。

@jonas90.
I work at insurance and honestly people have all these silly accidents sometimes losing their fingers or even arms and legs and this is life-changing! People are too scared of this new era because they afraid of being replaced, but we lost type of jobs and created new ones in all of generations. People have to adapt and stop whining about progress. It's fair to be concerned but it's not fair to do not want this.

我从事保险业,说实话,人们有时会遭遇各种愚蠢的事故,失去手指甚至手臂和腿,而这会改变生活!人们太害怕这个新时代了,因为他们害怕被取代,但我们在每一代人中都失去了一些工作,并创造了新的工作。人们必须适应,不要再抱怨进步。担心是公平的,但不想要是不公平的。

@guy3555
I have a job robots can do right now, fix all the pot holes on my road! Robots won’t strike, they won’t complain working 1am when the roads are quiet. They will do it at a consistent quality, no shoddy workmanship. There is a future for robots and humans to co exist. We will witness an unprecedented productivity never seen before

我现在有一份工作是机器人可以做的,那就是修补我路上的所有坑洞!机器人不会罢工,也不会抱怨凌晨 1 点道路安静时的工作。它们会以始终如一的质量完成工作,不会出现粗制滥造的情况。机器人和人类共存的未来是光明的。我们将见证前所未有的生产力
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@SL-fh7yv
My question is if corporations plan on going AI that means putting people out of work who’s gonna have money to pay for their products?

我的问题是,如果公司计划采用人工智能,那就意味着人们将失业,谁来有钱购买他们的产品呢?

@stephenchen856
Isn’t this how Skynet, Cylons, and the machines from the Matrix got started?

这不就是天网、赛昂人和黑客帝国里的机器的起源吗?

@samarbid13
It always starts with: it's just the entry-level jobs that nobody wants to work with...
In the near future, why should you have privacy or human rights, a robot can do your job!?

它总是以这样的方式开始:这只是没人愿意从事的入门级工作......在不久的将来,你为什么应该拥有隐私或人权,机器人可以做你的工作!?

@Mrnovanova
So, we're safe until the robot figures out how to disable the killswitch?
Got it!

那么,在机器人找到禁用终止开关的方法之前,我们都是安全的吗?明白了!

@prettywitty9051
10% of automative factory lines are automated, but there is no decrease in prices. This is well thought out

10% 的汽车工厂生产线实现了自动化,但价格却没有下降。这是经过深思熟虑的

@q.heffner3612
Hopefully, the robots can take some of these CEO's jobs. They aren't doing anything anyway.

希望机器人能接手部分 CEO 的工作。反正他们什么也没做。

@carlaabreu9790
It's going to happen even if people don't believe it. So better to be prepared. The best way isn't to go against it but make sure that you and your family are safe if somehow loose our jobs for this humanoids robots. The best way is to invest on this companies that are producing these bots. I remember when the mobile started, it was a block with an antenna and now we can do so many things with our mobiles. This is the way life goes, forward with technology.

即使人们不相信,它也会实现。所以最好做好准备。最好的办法不是反对它,而是确保你和你的家人安全,以防我们因为这种人形机器人而失去工作。最好的办法是投资生产这些机器人的公司。我记得当手机刚出现时,它只是一个带天线的方块,而现在我们可以用手机做很多事情。这就是生活的发展方向,随着技术的发展而前进。

@andromedach
Given how impressive Tesla's full self driving has become and not yet complete it really feels the idea of their making humanoid robots will be much easier to succeed at. the biggest issue with full self driving hasn't been the road but dealing with other drivers. a warehouse full of robots would obviously not have that problem

考虑到特斯拉的全自动驾驶技术已经令人印象深刻,而且尚未完成,我真的觉得他们制造人形机器人的想法会更容易成功。全自动驾驶的最大问题不是道路,而是与其他司机打交道。一个装满机器人的仓库显然不会有这个问题

@JandonGames
Say goodbye to many jobs that are currently still being done by humans, in the next 20 years.

未来20年,许多目前仍由人类完成的工作将会被淘汰。

@user-ho1pj8vm8l
"These robots will give us back time" ahahah hahahh hahaha. good one, capitalist!

“这些机器人会让我们重获时间”哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。好样的,资本家!

@100kSubscribersWithoutVideos
Recent advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) have made humanoid robots more capable than ever before

人工智能 (AI) 的最新进展使得人形机器人比以往任何时候都更加强大。
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@mig4868
I think AI is about software while the robot is a physical machine.

我认为人工智能是关于软件的,而机器人是物理机器。

@slyktech1860
It is all a part of the same being, the robot is just the body and the AI is the intelligence of the machine. You need both for the same thing to exist.

它们都是同一个存在的一部分,机器人只是身体,而人工智能是机器的智能。你需要两者才能使同一个事物存在。

@JT_771
An exciting industry and one that should be moving forward. Having said that, it needs to be done right (not just from a safety perspective, but from handling people who's jobs get replaced).

这是一个令人兴奋的行业,应该向前发展。话虽如此,它需要正确行事(不仅从安全角度,而且从处理被替换工作的人的角度)。

@beastmode3600
Crazy these are basically the first gens and it’s just going to improve way more with AI evolution.

疯狂的是,这些基本上是第一代,并且随着人工智能的发展,它将得到进一步改进。
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@mouseisbroken
Just like EVs, Chinese companies are going to demolish those overpriced AI-Powered Humanoid Robots vendors in the US, they simply have a much larger scale and market. Nvidia, Tesla, Amazon can probably build the best robots, but Chinese ones will be 90% capable with a price tag 90% lower.

就像电动汽车一样,中国公司将击败美国那些定价过高的人工智能人形机器人供应商,只是他们的规模和市场更大。Nvidia、特斯拉、亚马逊可能可以制造出最好的机器人,但中国机器人的性能将达到 90%,价格却低 90%。

@nguyep4
China is about displaying its advancements without substance. It is mostly facade. It lacks originality and technically, ie precision machinery. This is a fact. Their lead is not much a lead but their willingness to see things through will give them an edge, imo.

中国只是在炫耀其进步,却没有实质内容。这主要是表面文章。它缺乏原创性和技术,即精密机械。这是事实。他们的领先并不多,但他们愿意坚持到底,在我看来,这将给他们带来优势。
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@jeremytoney9367
I like the potential of artificial intelligence with robotics and having that combined, however there are people who say that you need to have the three big companies as your resources so that you can do this stuff and the fact of the matter is is that there are plenty of entrepreneurs out there who can actually do this stuff without those three companies that’s point number one
Point number two is the power of this stuff and what it can do for people and the ability to relieve people of work. The question with that is how do you get paid if you’re not working and you’re a minimum wage employee what exactly would you get to do if you’re constantly needing to actually work every day? How would you make money if The business owners are the ones who own all the robots and have access to all this high-powered artificial intelligence. How exactly do we maintain our capabilities with income?

我对人工智能与机器人结合的潜力感到兴奋。然而,有人说你需要依赖三家大公司作为资源才能做到这一点。事实上,有很多企业家可以在没有这三家公司的情况下做到这一点,这是第一点。
第二点是这些技术的威力,以及它能给人们带来的解放工作的潜力。问题在于,如果你不工作,你如何获得报酬?如果你是时薪最低的员工,如果你每天都需要工作,你会做些什么?如果企业主是拥有所有机器人和所有这些高性能人工智能的人,你将如何赚钱?我们如何维持我们的收入能力?

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@jeremytoney9367
I like the idea of artificial intelligence because it gives a lot of capabilities for people like me that we didn’t have before plus it has access to mountains of data that it would take me years to learn by the time I learn it the stuff is outdated. That means that I can’t utilize it to make my life better immediately, which with things like robotics and artificial intelligence, I would be capable of doing and actually having fun while I’m doing it and I could do it while I was still Relatively young because I’m in early middle age
Is that artificial intelligence and robotics takes over every single job that’s available from truck driving to warehousing to factory work to everything else and then what happens to us workers out here that’s the scary part that a lot of people are complaining about and the fact is that with business owners wanting to lower costs faster and faster? How exactly do us workers continue to get paid and so that creates a problem because we work out here pay a lot of taxes and we’re not working. We can’t pay taxes because we don’t have income anymore and so that is a scary part of the entire situation and so my question is, how do we rectify the situation or do people like me just go by the wayside and starve to death.

我喜欢人工智能的想法,因为它为像我这样的人提供了以前没有的许多能力,而且它可以访问大量数据,这些数据需要我花多年时间学习,而在我学习的过程中,这些知识可能已经过时了。这意味着我不能立即利用它来改善我的生活,但是有了像机器人和人工智能这样的技术,我就有能力做到这一点,并且在做的过程中实际上还能享受乐趣,而且我可以在相对年轻的年纪做到这一点,因为我正处于中年初期。
但是,如果人工智能和机器人接管了所有可用的工作,从卡车驾驶到仓库管理到工厂工作等等,那么对我们这些工人来说会发生什么?这是很多人抱怨的可怕部分。实际上,随着企业主希望越来越快地降低成本,我们这些工人如何继续获得报酬?这造成了一个问题,因为我们在这里工作,支付了很多税款,我们现在不工作了。我们不能交税,因为我们没有收入了,这是整个情况中可怕的部分。所以问题是,我们如何纠正这种情况,或者像我这样的人是不是就被淘汰,饿死了。

@jeremytoney9367
I’m saying this as a US citizen and there is no difference at this point in my thinking between myself and someone who’s a night high net worth individual the fact of the matter is is that if you don’t continue to educate the people out here then we’re gonna end up with a situation where we have unbridled spending in our government because robots have taken over everything and artificial intelligence has also taken over everything and so we’re stuck in no situation and so there are pros and cons to this situation, but Some people would say it’s extremely scary and I think I understand why now because if you have robots and artificial intelligence taking over every job that there is end up being out of work and what happens you can’t even pay bills now you end up with a lot of people who aren’t even able to get by and so we end up with homelessness, poverty, and all the rest of that stuff so I would say that we need to be very careful about how we utilize this technologyand we need to embrace it needs to be some kind of balance and if we don’t have that balance, then I would say we’ve got big problems

我作为一名美国公民发表意见,在我看来,无论个人净资产多少,我们所有人都面临着相同的问题。实际情况是,如果我们不继续教育大众,我们可能会面临政府无节制开支的局面,因为机器人和人工智能已经接管了一切,让我们陷入了困境。这种情况既有利也有弊,但有些人认为这极其可怕,我现在理解了其中的原因。如果机器人和人工智能取代了所有工作,导致大量失业,人们甚至无法支付账单,最终可能导致许多人无法维持生计,从而引发无家可归、贫困等问题。
因此,我认为我们必须谨慎地利用这项技术,需要在技术发展与社会责任之间找到平衡。如果我们不能找到这种平衡,我们就会面临严重的问题。我们需要确保技术进步不会加剧社会不平等,而是为所有人带来福祉。

@simonweakley3479
Once they start learning for themselves they will become Terminators, Tesla already has Starnet, this is the next phase of the plan to destroy humanity

一旦他们开始自学,他们就会成为终结者,特斯拉已经拥有了星网,这是毁灭人类计划的下一阶段

@LikeWater-ln5hh
I hope I get to see skynet come online before I die.

我希望在我死前能看到天网上线。
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@Jonathan-ru9zl
Humanoid robots are the greatest revolution in human history

人形机器人是人类历史上最伟大的革命

@CT37BN
Amazon, TEMU, 7-Eleven, petrol stations maybe some fast food outlets, hotel, office cleaning jobs etc. could possibly lose their manual labour.

亚马逊、TEMU、7-Eleven、加油站、一些快餐店、酒店、办公室清洁工作等都可能失去体力劳动力。

@Agent77X
When a robot can outrun a human, time to get scare!

当机器人跑得比人类快时,就要惊慌了!

@TheSietch
This is not going to be a near-monopoly for the mega companies. This is a field that are going to be really interesting when open source / crowd development is taking off. The parts a robot is made of is easily available to a minimal cost (stepper motors, controllers, gears and transmissions, etc.). Joints and body parts can be 3D printed. It’s the design and programming that’s difficult. Fifty thousand people worldwide, joined together online under a agreed upon protocol, can rival the big companies, making designs that cost a fraction of what the big companies are going to charge for their product.

这不会是大型公司的准垄断领域。当开源/众包开发兴起时,这个领域将变得真正有趣。构成机器人的部件(步进电机、控制器、齿轮和传动装置等)容易以最低成本获得。关节和身体部位可以用3D打印。真正困难的是设计和编程。全世界有五万人在线联合起来,按照共同的协议工作,可以与大公司竞争,制作的设计方案成本只是大公司产品收费的一小部分。

@gsp1995
Billionaries would rather spend billions developing robots than paying real human workers fair wages

亿万富翁宁愿花费数十亿美元开发机器人,也不愿向真正的人类工人支付公平的工资

@Steven-xf8mz
Incentive. If you own a business where your employees are constantly asking for raises and benefits, and your customers complain about your prices. One or the other has to give, or both has to be fulfilled. Sure, you can reduce your margin by not hiking prices while paying your employees more each year. But tell me, how do you guarantee your customers will continue to buy your products when your competitors are selling at much lower price for the same quality? billionaires or not, economy drives on demand, more often than not, these progress are driven by consumers, not by billionaires.

动机。如果你拥有一家企业,你的员工不断要求加薪和福利,而你的客户又对你的价格抱怨。必须做出让步,或者两者都要满足。当然,你可以通过不提高价格来减少利润率,同时每年给员工支付更多薪水。但请告诉我,如果竞争对手以相同质量的更低价格销售,你如何保证你的客户会继续购买你的产品?无论是不是亿万富翁,经济都是由需求驱动的,往往这些进步是由消费者推动的,而不是由亿万富翁推动的。

@piccalillipit9211
WHY...?
cos they need to make line go up and they have run out of things that actually make peo[les lives better so they are turning to "I can make your employees disappear"
Just like Generative Ai this will never actually BE a thing that works, it just needs to keep the shareholders happy and the line going UP - for now. Hopefully when it stops and the bubble bursts someone else will be CEO.

为什么会这样?
因为他们需要让股价上涨,而且他们已经没有真正能改善人们生活的东西了,所以他们转向了“我能让你的员工消失”。
就像生成性人工智能一样,这永远不会真正成为现实,它只需要让股东们高兴,让股价继续上涨——至少目前是这样。希望当股价停止上涨,泡沫破裂时,会有别人成为CEO。

@orderfromchaos663
There is a lot of "potentially" and "could have" and "in 10-20 years" (long enough that nobody cares anymore to call someone out). If they actually had the tech already they would say it. They would not lead the "it's already in use" section with "Elon Musk claims that 2 robots are in use somewhere in one of the factories." Besides, if you watch the videos, the Tesla robots are shown to be teleoperation and not GenAI, which is very different.

存在很多“可能”、“可能有”和“在10到20年之内”(时间足够长,以至于没有人再关心去指责某人)。如果他们真的掌握了这项技术,他们会直接说出来。他们不会在“已经在使用中”的部分以“埃隆·马斯克声称在某个工厂中有两台机器人在使用”作为开头。此外,如果你观看视频,特斯拉的机器人被展示为远程操作,而不是通用人工智能(GenAI),这两者有很大的不同。

@catinbootsnow4267
Seeing the hype for Open AI, AI in the US is mainly focusing on robots chatting like real lawyers, journalists, politicians, freelancers, TV archors, and entertainers.
AI in China is mainly focusing on robots working like real engineers, programmers, workers, drivers, teachers, doctors, nurses, and farmers.
A little amusing.

看到对Open AI的热潮,美国的人工智能主要集中在让机器人像真正的律师、记者、政治家、自由职业者、电视主持人和演艺人员那样聊天。
而中国的人工智能主要集中在让机器人像真正的工程师、程序员、工人、司机、教师、医生、护士和农民那样工作。
这有点有趣。

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@cooxncooxn3738
there are 3 billion worker. average sallary is about 10.000 Euro /a year.
if your company works 3 shifts, it means you need 3 different people with 30.000 Euros/year.
imagine that, buy a robot with 15.000 usd. run it for 24 hours. return of investment is about 6 months. after 6 months you just pay for electricity bill.
too low maintenance cost because of the closed-loop gear system, and at least you will use any robot for 10-20 years.
imagine a company now which employ 1000 people. 600 are in production area. replace them with 200 robots. pay 3 milyon euros. and in the first year gain extra money about 6 milyon usd a year.
this is why those company wants to improve this market.

全球有 30 亿工人,平均年薪大约为 1 万欧元。如果你的公司实行 3 班倒,那就意味着你需要 3 个不同的人,年薪为 3 万欧元。想象一下,花 1.5 万美元买一个机器人,运行 24 小时,大约 6 个月就能收回投资,6 个月后你只需要支付电费。由于采用了闭环齿轮系统,维护成本很低,而且机器人至少可以使用 10-20 年。想象一下现在有一家公司雇佣了 1000 名员工,其中 600 人在生产区,用 200 台机器人取代他们,花费 300 万欧元,第一年就能额外赚取 600 万美元。这就是这些公司想要改善这个市场的原因。

@TheTrueMilery
I personally believe these robots will be able to do these jobs in the future, I don't think it's going to be soon. And by the time it happens, it won't be any of these companies that are making it

我个人认为这些机器人将来能够做这些工作,但我认为不会很快实现。到那时,制造这些机器人的公司将不再是这些公司。
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@ihuboo6244
I understand that these robots arent perfect but what irritates me is how clunky they still look. Most of them look like they waddle like a penguin and that at a slow speed. Another thing is when tesla's bot at around 13:00 shows to demonstrate how fluid it's new hands are, but the very next clip it shows the slowest hand picking of an egg. I dont wanna be demonstrated delicate item picking, I wanna be shown it can handle an egg like a normal person. I hope this gets a major improvement in the near future.
Call it childish but let me point out from the recent developments I hear in a video game like Call of Duty's upcoming Black Ops 6 game is introducing omni-directional movement as well as some quality of life improvements that require even less buttons to press and maneuver around a place.
Epic Games making their own Unreal Engine 5 has optimised directional movement with smoother transitions.
For something related to hands, Im not aware from where they could take inspiration from but I hope it would be more efficient later down the line.

我知道这些机器人并不完美,但让我感到烦恼的是它们看起来仍然很笨拙。它们大多数走起路来像企鹅一样摇摇摆摆,而且速度很慢。还有,当特斯拉的机器人在视频的大约13分钟处展示其新手部动作的流畅性时,紧接着的片段却展示了一个非常缓慢的捡鸡蛋动作。我不想看精细物品的捡拾演示,我想看的是它像一个普通人一样处理鸡蛋。
我希望在不久的将来,这些技术能有一个重大的进步。
这可能听起来有些幼稚,但让我指出,从我最近的发展中听到的,比如《使命召唤》即将推出的《黑色行动6》游戏,正在引入全向移动功能,以及一些提高生活质量的改进,这些改进减少了按压按钮和在环境中移动的操作。
Epic Games开发了自己的虚幻引擎5,优化了定向移动,使过渡更加平滑。
对于与手部有关的事情,我不知道他们能从哪里获得灵感,但我希望将来它能更加高效。

@chrissanders541
I know if any company would pay the worker instead of worrying about how much they made the investor they wouldn't have a labor shortage AT ALL!

我知道,如果任何公司只支付工人工资而不是担心为投资者赚了多少钱,那么他们根本不会遇到劳动力短缺的问题!

@kallemetsahalme5701
because they see and estimate there are billions of human workers in the world and if they can replace each one with a 10k-100k robot (plus the upgrades and maintenance), it will be a trillion dollar business.
and all the companies assume theyre the only ones using robots so their customerbase will still retain their jobs and money to spend so they are demanding this progression. but then they notice their customers are staying home because of unemployememt and at best they get UBI which is paid from companys corporate taxes. so net result can be negative.

据估计,世界上有数十亿的人力工作者,如果可以用一台价值1万到10万美元的机器人(加上升级和维护费用)来取代每个人,这将形成一个万亿美元的产业。所有公司都假设只有自己在使用机器人,认为他们的客户基础将保留工作和消费能力,因此他们推动这种进步。但随后他们发现,由于失业,他们的客户都待在家中,充其量只能获得由公司企业税支付的全民基本收入(UBI),这可能导致最终结果为负面。

@Ressurrectio
So the robot in the decade will be estimated 20k Use expectancy should be around 8-10 years) so figure around $2500 annually now add electricity and maintenance so I would conservatively believe around $4000 a year per unit. A year has 8760 hrs. So lets assume they work some 8500 hrs a year. Now the guest said "55 lbs 75-100 times an hr." thats some 132,000lbs a day or about the output some 6 times the output or someone well acclimated to manual labor. So we have a workforce at 0.47 cents an hr. or about .08 an hr for the average very hard working human. Yes eight cents per hour of back breaking effort! And no tedious hiring process, no training curve, no benefits needed, does not slack off or call in sick. Sounds like a no brainer if you are a manager.

在未来十年,预计机器人的成本大约为2万美元,使用年限大约是8-10年,这意味着每年的分摊成本大约是2500美元。再加上电费和维护费用,我保守估计每年每个单位的成本大约是4000美元。一年有8760小时,假设它们每年工作8500小时。
如果按照嘉宾所说的“每小时举起55磅重物75到100次”,那么每天的举起重量大约是132000磅,或者说大约是一个人熟练进行体力劳动的六倍产出。这样算下来,机器人的劳动力成本大约是每小时0.47美分,或者说是平均非常勤劳的人力成本的0.08美元。是的,每小时繁重劳动的成本只有八美分!
而且,使用机器人没有繁琐的招聘流程,不需要培训周期,不需要支付福利,它们不会偷懒也不会请假。对于管理者来说,这听起来是个无需动脑筋的选择。

@oldblinddarby2498
The problem with replacing a job with a robot manager job is that there will never be a 1:1 ratio, ultimately jobs will be lost. This will result in economic decline. Then who will actually be buying these goods being made by robots? Out of work people don't buy things.

使用机器人取代工作和机器人经理职位的问题在于,永远不会有1:1的比例对应,最终将导致工作岗位的减少。这将引发经济衰退。那么,谁会去购买由机器人制造的商品呢?失业的人没有购买力。

@DerFlotteReiter
I see a lot of comments like: they will take "all" our jobs. The thing is: if there is no one consuming products because they are unemployed then there will be no industry producing those products. Hence no robots are needed to produce those products.
Yes, they will take jobs. And already do. But having low cost robot workers is not the only force that drives the market.

我看到很多评论,比如:它们会抢走我们“所有”的工作。问题是:如果因为失业而没有人消费产品,那么就不会有生产这些产品的行业。因此,不需要机器人来生产这些产品。是的,它们会抢走工作。而且已经抢走了。但拥有低成本的机器人工人并不是推动市场发展的唯一力量。

@thedoor2success31
How does it dramatically affect the economy? Negatively yeah, because the robots don’t spend money!! so where do people work if 30% of the job openings are filled by robots? I’m a little confused here!

它如何显著影响经济?是的,是的,因为机器人不花钱!!那么,如果 30% 的职位空缺由机器人填补,人们在哪里工作呢?我有点困惑!

@425TOM
Would be great if we can send a fleet of robots to places like Mars and have them preprogrammed to build the human habitats so everything's ready to go when we arrive.

如果我们可以将一批机器人发送到火星这样的地方,并对它们进行预先编程以建造人类居住地,以便我们到达时一切准备就绪,那就太好了。

@PigRipperLAW
Everyone deserves to enjoy most of their time alive. Not just being a worker for most of your days.

每个人都应该享受生命的大部分时光。而不是大部分时间都当工人。

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