为什么许多韩国人认为自己的国家是一个大国?他们不知道韩国有多小吗?
2024-07-24 冲动的小李 18675
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@Amber Zhan
Most ordinary people don't care about history, politics and international affairs. People only care about their work, life, emotions and disputes. Therefore, most of the impression of the country comes from general education and media influence. Look at the map in Korean books, you can understand why this phenomenon occurs.

绝大部分普通人不关心历史,政治和国际
人们只关心自己的工作,生活,情感和纠纷
所以,对国家的映像大部分来自于通识教育和媒体影响。
看看韩国书籍上的地图,你可以理解为什么会发生这种现象




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@Wander Everywhere
It’s true. Because they have many such kind of maps.

这是真的。因为他们有很多这样的地图。

@Wei Cheng
This is an ad posted by a company claiming they are getting more attention globally, not an actual map.

这是一家公司发布的广告,声称他们在全球获得了更多关注,而不是一张实际的地图。
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@Qiaon Qaa
Kim Jong Un will be furious. wkwkwk

金正恩会暴怒的。哈哈哈

@Longbook
The external manifestation of extreme inferiority is extreme boasting.

极度自卑的外在表现就是极度自夸。

@Wander Everywhere
The below is the map posted by S.korea SBS TV channel. Should admit that SBS is very cunning cuz they didn’t exaggerate so ridiculous as above but still they stealthily amplify their land in the map from 1 to 2x.

下面是韩国SBS电视台发布的地图。必须承认SBS很狡猾,因为他们没有像上面的地图那样荒唐地夸大,但他们仍然偷偷地将地图上的土地扩大了1到2倍。

Here is the real normal map.

这是正常的真实地图。

Compare these two maps.

对比这两张地图。

Apparently, South Korea is intentionally and systematically distorting their map to mislead his people just as what they’re doing on stealing culture and history from his neighbors.

显然,韩国正在故意系统地扭曲他们的地图来误导他们的人民,就像他们从邻国偷窃文化和历史一样。

They could brainwash and cheat their people but couldn’t deceive the other people in the world.

他们可以洗脑和欺骗他们的人民,但不能欺骗世界上的其他人。
@Sean Landy دانشجوی چینی 陆

poor Japan, looks like a random island like New Zealand in the map…..

可怜的日本,在地图上看起来就像新西兰那样的小岛…..

@@Wei Cheng
That’s just 3 places on the map (Thailand, Hong Kong, Korea) highlighted and put close to show the audience where they are talking about.

那只是地图上的三个地方(泰国、香港(特区)、韩国)被突出显示并放在一起,以向观众展示他们在谈论什么。

@Calra
Education is important in a country, and apparently Korea is terrible at it.

教育在一个国家中很重要,显然韩国在这方面很糟糕。

@JoeL
U are right.

你是对的。

@Yichen Yin
How can Korea be terrible at history while they can simply invent it?

韩国怎么会在历史上糟糕,他们可以随便编造历史。
@水水淼淼

Since they don't teach Chinese characters in Korea, young Koreans don't know real history. Korean history books are written in Chinese characters.

由于韩国不教汉字,年轻的韩国人不了解真实的历史。韩国的历史书是用汉字写的。

@Yichen Yin
Didn't get it?I mean some of their history is invented, not recorded.

没明白吗?我是说他们的一些历史是编造的,而不是记录的。
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@Zzzzzz
@Joe Dart
Yes - this is a picture of it.

是的——这是它的照片。

@Wander Everywhere
Yes, they are doing this intentionally and systematically.

是的,他们正在故意和系统地这样做。

@Shu Liu
Really amusing. No wonder why they always claim Chinese things as theirs.

真的很有趣。难怪他们总是把中国的东西说成是他们的。

@Hu Shi xiong
I don't think the sane ones do

我不认为理智的人会这样做。

The ones that do, especially on quora don't talk normally

那些会这样做的人,尤其是在Quora上的人,说话都不正常。

@JoeL
This is what gives them the ego.

这就是让他们自负的原因。

@Echowe
I dont know if your being sarcastic or actually curious cuz the map is clearly exaggerating the size of Korea like I think it says its some type of design thing or smthn in the book, Koreans use normal world maps like anywhere else.

我不知道你是在讽刺还是确实好奇,因为这张地图显然夸大了韩国的面积,我认为它是在书中某种设计的东西,韩国人使用的世界地图和其他地方一样。

@Wander Everywhere
The below is the map posted by S.korea SBS TV channel. Should admit that SBS is very cunning cuz they didn’t exaggerate so ridiculous as above but still they stealthily amplify their land in the map from 1 to 2x.

下面是韩国SBS电视台发布的地图。必须承认SBS很狡猾,因为他们没有像上面的地图那样荒唐地夸大,但他们仍然偷偷地将地图上的土地扩大了1到2倍。

Here is the real normal map.

这是正常的真实地图。

Compare these two maps.

对比这两张地图。

Apparently, South Korea is intentionally and systematically distorting their map to mislead his people just as what they’re doing on stealing culture and history from his neighbors.

显然,韩国正在故意系统地扭曲他们的地图来误导他们的人民,就像他们从邻国偷窃文化和历史一样。

They could brainwash and cheat their people but couldn’t deceive the other people in the world.

他们可以洗脑和欺骗他们的人民,但不能欺骗世界上的其他人。

@@Echowe
damn I think you might have a point with the photo above but still I think it was likely created bigger to show the locations better in Korea, and I doubt the South Korean media wants to intentionally make people think Korea is bigger than it is because most people in Korea know its a pretty small country like if you search 세계지도(world map in korean) in korea it doesnt show anything with an enlarged korea.
Below is also a photo of the world map from a Korean textbook
which has Korea correctly scaled.
This answer sums it up really well in my opinion

该死,我觉得你说的有道理,但我仍然认为地图被放大是为了更好地显示韩国的位置,我怀疑韩国媒体会故意让人们认为韩国比实际大,因为大多数韩国人知道这是一个很小的国家,就像在韩国搜索世界地图(韩语中的世界地图),它不会显示任何放大的韩国。
下面也是韩国教科书中的世界地图照片。
其中韩国的比例是正确的。
在我看来,这个答案很好地总结了问题。

@@Wander Everywhere
Thank you for telling us some other side story. But just as you said, man would be more easily influenced by the media rather than the textbooks. Suppose I were a South Korean, I watch episode of running man in SBS TV show, I read some advertisment from the newspaper, and all the Korean map has been intentionally enlarged, of course I will get the idea that South Korea is so big! And this process is silently and imperceptibly implanted into your brain. The implanting of such distorted knowledge leads to the arrogance and ignorance. I was once debating with a South Korean in Quora because he wrote an answer saying that South Korea was the start point of ancient silk road. Then I asked him: how do you plant so many mulberry trees since your barren land is so small and so cold in the winter? I said “barren land” didn't mean to offend you but it's true that even now you couldn't make cabbages self-sufficient and should rely on China. why the merchants from the far west to pass through the long territory of China to reach your pennisula to buy silk while they could actually be very easy to get these goods in the western area of China? I don’t want to repeat here his bulls**t sophism. What intrigued me is why this guy, a self-called retired policeman, could produce such ridiculous idea? Then I saw the intentionally exaggerated Korean maps. And I understood. If a man grew up at the atmosphere of such as “Korea is big in geography”, no strange this kind of guy would have the delusion of SOUTH KOREAN INVENTS EVERYTHING. Feel you’re a rational South Korean, so I wrote so long to reply you and hope you could know the other people’s perspective on South Koreans.

谢谢你告诉我们另一个故事。但是正如你所说,人更容易被媒体而不是教科书影响。假设我是一个韩国人,我看SBS电视节目中的《Running Man》的一集,我看报纸上的一些广告,所有的韩国地图都被故意放大,当然我会觉得韩国很大!这个过程是悄无声息地植入你的大脑中的。这样的扭曲知识的植入导致了傲慢和无知。我曾在Quora上与一个韩国人辩论过,因为他写了一篇文章说韩国是古代丝绸之路的起点。
然后我问他:在你那么小且冬天那么冷的贫瘠土地上怎么种植那么多桑树?我说“贫瘠土地”并不是想冒犯你,但事实是即使现在你们也无法自给自足地种植白菜,还得依赖中国。为什么来自远西的商人要经过中国的大片领土来到你们的半岛买丝绸,而他们实际上可以很容易地在中国西部获得这些商品?我不想在这里重复他的胡言乱语。令我好奇的是,为什么这个自称退休警察的人会产生如此荒谬的想法?然后我看到了那些故意夸大的韩国地图。我明白了。如果一个人在这样的“韩国地理上很大”的氛围中长大,不奇怪这样的人会有“韩国发明一切”的错觉。觉得你是一个理性的韩国人,所以我写了这么长的回复,希望你能知道其他人对韩国人的看法。

@Amber Zhan
Thank you for your answer and I’m really curious. I’ve never been to South Korea and is planing a trip there next year.

谢谢你的回答,我真的很好奇。我从未去过韩国,计划明年去那里旅游。

@Wander Everywhere
Good luck. But many tourists back from S.Korea criticized they’re the very disgusting xenophobic racists unless you’re a Caucasian.

祝好运。但很多从韩国回来的游客批评他们是非常令人厌恶的排外种族主义者,除非你是高加索人。

@Jeffery
It's funny how the Korean government and media educate the Korean people like this

韩国政府和媒体这样教育韩国人民真的很搞笑。

@Kevin Lim
It’s just a simple emphasis lol, simply stressing: “we’re HERE!” Why should be so mad at this? I mean, do you sincerely believe that Koreans believe that their country is as big as that picture? Then, which is more stupid, few Koreans who believe that they are large, or people who believe that most Koreans trust this bullshit? I see nothing but a group of people who try to be smart and logical just to hate Korea more and more.

这只是一个简单的强调哈哈,仅仅是强调:“我们在这里!” 为什么要对此生气?我的意思是,你真的相信韩国人相信他们的国家有那么大吗?那么,哪个更蠢,是少数相信他们国家很大的韩国人,还是那些相信大多数韩国人信这个胡说八道的人?我只看到一群试图聪明和逻辑的人只是越来越讨厌韩国。

@Lucas Tracy
For thousands of years, Korea has been a vassal state of China. Later, China declined and Korea became a colony of Japan. After the end of World War II, it was called the mistress and colony of the United States. Because it has developed rapidly as a mistress of the United States, Koreans will definitely whitewash their unbearable history. In short, Korea has always been dependent on big powers, and Korea is a poor place, which has created the extreme inferiority of Koreans, leading to the ignorance and arrogance of Koreans. Inferiority, ignorance, and arrogance, these qualities have also led to Korea stealing other countries' culture, history, food, celebrities, etc. everywhere, and have led to Koreans fabricating history and exaggerating their own strength. So, do you still think it is strange that Koreans do such things? Finally, I think they know that their country is small, otherwise they would be too stupid!

几千年来,韩国一直是中国的附属国。后来,中国衰落,韩国成为日本的殖民地。二战结束后,它被称为美国的情妇和殖民地。因为它作为美国的情妇迅速发展起来,韩国人肯定会粉饰他们那难以忍受的历史。简而言之,韩国一直依赖大国,韩国是一个贫穷的地方,这造成了韩国人的极端自卑,导致了韩国人的无知和傲慢。自卑、无知和傲慢,这些品质也导致了韩国到处窃取其他国家的文化、历史、食物、名人等,并导致韩国人编造历史并夸大自己的实力。所以,你还觉得韩国人做这些事情奇怪吗?最后,我认为他们知道自己的国家很小,否则他们就太愚蠢了!

@Wei Cheng
Let’s get real, you are just trolling because no sane people would believe that’s an actual map. Just in case you genuinely believe so though, when somene draws their country big like that, it means they want to show that they are proud to be a person from that country, not that they think their country is actually thay big.

说实话,你只是在捣乱,因为没有理智的人会相信那是真实的地图。不过,以防万一你真的相信,当有人把他们的国家画得那么大时,这意味着他们想表明他们为自己是那个国家的人而感到自豪,而不是他们认为自己的国家真的有那么大。

@HarrY LEE

Sorry, but wrong entry point in criticizing Korea. Quite the opposite. If anything, many Koreans love to exaggerate how small they are - both in land and in population. Those excessively proud Koreans love to think of themselves as having inherited a tiny, god-forsaken strip of land at the end of Asia - with harsh weather conditions, inarable terrains made of mountains, zero natural resources, facing three hostile powers to the north, two nuclear superpowers including you, China, to boot - and yet they achieved economic prosperity. It is precisely in this sharp contrast that is the source of their pride. For what is so special about inheriting a big land from your ancestors? You have earned nothing on your own. What is so magical about beating a country in football that is 15 times smaller in population than you? Nil. Rien. Nichts. 無. You Chinese never get it, do you? Korean vice is not in thinking how big they are geographically; it is in teaching and thinking far more diminutive in size than Korea really is, to induce harder work and efforts from the population, to block any spirit of complacency from slipping in, and to make any achievement appear all the more miraculous. All Korean children learn, ad-nauseam, that Korea is such a weak and small country (弱小國) and the handicap can only be overcome through their own sweat and tears. This self-deprecating rhetoric has continued to this day. So when you see a map that depicts Korea smaller than real, bring that to me - for that would signify Korean exaggeration and imply hubris.
抱歉,批评韩国的切入点错了。恰恰相反。很多韩国人喜欢夸大他们的小——无论是土地还是人口。那些过分骄傲的韩国人喜欢认为自己继承了亚洲尽头一块狭长的土地——气候条件恶劣,多山,无法耕种,没有自然资源,北面面临三个敌对势力,两个核超级大国,包括你们中国——但他们却实现了经济繁荣。正是这种鲜明的对比成为他们骄傲的源泉。
从祖先那里继承一块大地有什么特别之处?你自己什么也没赚到。在足球比赛中击败一个人口比你小15倍的国家有什么神奇之处?没有。你们中国人永远都不明白,是吗?韩国人的缺点不在于认为他们的地理面积有多大;正是在教学和思考上,韩国的面积比实际要小得多,才能够激励人民更加努力工作,阻止自满情绪的蔓延,使任何成就都显得更加神奇。所有的韩国孩子都学过,韩国是一个弱小的国家,只有通过自己的汗水和泪水才能克服这一缺陷。这种自嘲的言论一直延续到今天。所以,当你看到一张把韩国画得比实际小的地图时,请把它拿给我——因为那意味着韩国的夸张和傲慢。

@Eric Lee
Originally the Korean territory included also North Korea and also even small parts of what is currently Northeast coastal China . The ancient kingdom of Gojoseon and then Goguryeo included small parts of what is now China .
But of course, the overly arrogant and proud members of my fellow countrymen would like to believe in revisionist history and think that it was Ancient China instead who controlled those current territories. They’ll even just claim that the Mongolians who successfully invaded and took over during the Yuan Dynasty “became” Chinese themselves. I mean, definitely you could say that the descendants of the Mongolian commanders and soldiers who slept with Chinese women and men did become Chinese eventually. But the actual Mongolian invaders themselves definitely weren’t Chinese, they were Mongolian.

本来朝鲜领土还包括朝鲜,甚至还包括现在中国东北沿海的一小部分。古朝鲜王国和当时的高句丽包括现在中国的一小部分。
但当然,我的同胞们过于傲慢和骄傲,愿意相信修正主义历史,并认为是古代中国控制了现在的领土。他们甚至会声称,在元朝时期成功入侵并占领中国的蒙古人自己“变成”了中国人。我的意思是,你绝对可以说,与中国女人和男人睡过的蒙古指挥官和士兵的后裔最终确实成为了中国人。但真正的蒙古入侵者本身绝对不是中国人,他们是蒙古人。

@Dang Yeon Sim
This is my latest article talk about the comparison between South Vietnam and South Korea in 50s and 60s and present today, please, read it when you have time, thank you very much:
Dang Yeon Sim's answer to Was South Vietnam more developed overall than South Korea in the 1950s-60s? This question compares the entirety of each country, not just Saigon and Seoul.

这是我今天最新的一篇文章,讲的是50年代和60年代南越和韩国的比较,请大家有空的时候看一下,非常感谢:
对20世纪50年代至60年代南越总体上比韩国更发达吗?这个问题比较了每个国家的整体,而不仅仅是西贡和首尔。

@GenXKoreanMale
Another great answer. Undoubtedly VN was more prosperous than Korea after Korean War and before Vietnam War because Korea was a pile of rubble.

另一个很好的答案。毫无疑问,在朝鲜战争之后和越南战争之前,越南比韩国更加繁荣,因为韩国是一堆瓦砾。

@Dang Yeon Sim
No, 1954 to 1975 is Vietnam War. South Vietnam was more developed than South Korea despite the war was going on until United States and Alliance withdrew their army from South Vietnam in 1973 due to Joe Biden and Democratic Party in United States cut off the military support for Republic of South Vietnam that led to the the fall of South Vietnam in 1975. South Vietnam followed the democratic and election regime too early when communist never stopped to invade and dye entire Asia in red, they were luckier than South Korea at the time but now, Vietnam is way more worse luck than South Korea and any other Asian countries due to the rule of Vietnamese communist.

不,1954年到1975年是越南战争。尽管战争仍在继续,但南越比韩国更发达,直到1973年美国和联盟从南越撤军,原因是乔·拜登和美国民主党切断了对南越共和国的军事支持,导致1975年南越的垮台。南越过早地遵循了民主和选举制度,当时***从未停止入侵并将整个亚洲染成红色,他们当时比韩国幸运,但现在,越南的运气要差得多,由于越共的统治,比韩国和任何其他亚洲国家都差要多。

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