印度尼西亚禁止销售新款 iPhone：禁令出台意味着政府采取措施遏制大型科技公司
正文翻译
Indonesian authorities have banned the sale of new iPhones and other Apple products.
They say the company has failed to live up to its promise to support local businesses.
Apple has defaulted on its obligation to invest $110 million in Indonesia and is seen as ignoring the Indonesian market, according to people familiar with the matter.
印度尼西亚当局已禁止销售新推出的 iPhone 和其他苹果产品。
他们表示，该公司未能履行支持当地企业的承诺。
据知情人士透露，苹果未履行在印尼投资1.1亿美元的义务，被认为忽视印尼市场
Indonesian authorities have banned the sale of new iPhones and other Apple products.
They say the company has failed to live up to its promise to support local businesses.
Apple has defaulted on its obligation to invest $110 million in Indonesia and is seen as ignoring the Indonesian market, according to people familiar with the matter.
印度尼西亚当局已禁止销售新推出的 iPhone 和其他苹果产品。
他们表示，该公司未能履行支持当地企业的承诺。
据知情人士透露，苹果未履行在印尼投资1.1亿美元的义务，被认为忽视印尼市场
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@hhydar883
Glad to see a country putting its own benefit first.
很高兴看到一个国家把自身利益放在首位。
Glad to see a country putting its own benefit first.
很高兴看到一个国家把自身利益放在首位。
@ChrisAlbertH47
Nothing bad about this policy
这个政策没有什么不好的。
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Nothing bad about this policy
这个政策没有什么不好的。
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@SlavaEremenko
They are requiring that 40% of the company's value come from Indonesia. If I was Tim Apple, I'd also say F it and leave, that's too much hassle and wasteful inefficiency.
他们要求公司的40%价值来自印度尼西亚。如果我是蒂姆·苹果，我也会选择离开，这太麻烦了且效率低下。
They are requiring that 40% of the company's value come from Indonesia. If I was Tim Apple, I'd also say F it and leave, that's too much hassle and wasteful inefficiency.
他们要求公司的40%价值来自印度尼西亚。如果我是蒂姆·苹果，我也会选择离开，这太麻烦了且效率低下。
@EndingRex
That's not how the regulations work. Apple has failed to comply with Indonesian regulations requiring them to either employ local workers or establish a facility here. Instead, they've opted for a more costly solution by signing a contract to invest in the country and establish an annual "Apple Academy." However, they've defaulted on their financial obligations for this year, prompting the government to restrict their operations. This action is necessary to protect the Indonesian economy and prevent Apple from profiting without contributing to local job creation or economic growth. In short it means if Apple would still be allowed to sell their iPhone here, it would be a one sided deal, and hurt our economy.
这并不是规定的运作方式。苹果未能遵守印度尼西亚的规定，要求他们要么雇佣当地工人，要么在这里建立设施。相反，他们选择了更昂贵的解决方案，签署合同在该国投资并建立一个年度“苹果学院”。然而，他们未能履行今年的财务义务，促使政府限制他们的运营。这一措施是保护印度尼西亚经济的必要举措，以防止苹果在没有为当地创造就业机会或经济增长做出贡献的情况下获利。简而言之，这意味着如果苹果仍然被允许在这里销售他们的iPhone，那将是一种单方面的交易，伤害我们的经济。
That's not how the regulations work. Apple has failed to comply with Indonesian regulations requiring them to either employ local workers or establish a facility here. Instead, they've opted for a more costly solution by signing a contract to invest in the country and establish an annual "Apple Academy." However, they've defaulted on their financial obligations for this year, prompting the government to restrict their operations. This action is necessary to protect the Indonesian economy and prevent Apple from profiting without contributing to local job creation or economic growth. In short it means if Apple would still be allowed to sell their iPhone here, it would be a one sided deal, and hurt our economy.
这并不是规定的运作方式。苹果未能遵守印度尼西亚的规定，要求他们要么雇佣当地工人，要么在这里建立设施。相反，他们选择了更昂贵的解决方案，签署合同在该国投资并建立一个年度“苹果学院”。然而，他们未能履行今年的财务义务，促使政府限制他们的运营。这一措施是保护印度尼西亚经济的必要举措，以防止苹果在没有为当地创造就业机会或经济增长做出贡献的情况下获利。简而言之，这意味着如果苹果仍然被允许在这里销售他们的iPhone，那将是一种单方面的交易，伤害我们的经济。
@joelmichaelviado1226
Thats actually pretty good for a policy
这实际上是一个不错的政策。
Thats actually pretty good for a policy
这实际上是一个不错的政策。
@ShortWatchMovies
then just leave.
那就离开吧。
then just leave.
那就离开吧。
@rizkyadiyanto7922
thats great. iphone users are annoying anyway.
这很好，反正iPhone用户也很烦人。
thats great. iphone users are annoying anyway.
这很好，反正iPhone用户也很烦人。
@noufiyamol7615
why you are worry about apple. if u not like. simply avoid it. thats all. typical android fan boy
你为什么担心苹果。如果你不喜欢，就避开它，没什么大不了的。典型的安卓粉。
why you are worry about apple. if u not like. simply avoid it. thats all. typical android fan boy
你为什么担心苹果。如果你不喜欢，就避开它，没什么大不了的。典型的安卓粉。
@Hunter-go4bv
Learn to innovate yourself. You want another country to share their secrets or want to steal it
学会自己创新。你想让其他国家分享他们的秘密，还是想偷走它？
Learn to innovate yourself. You want another country to share their secrets or want to steal it
学会自己创新。你想让其他国家分享他们的秘密，还是想偷走它？
@deanzaZZR
Indonesia has no capacity to manufacture such advanced phones. Indonesian consumers pay the monetary penalty.
印度尼西亚没有能力制造如此先进的手机。印度尼西亚消费者将承担经济损失。
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Indonesia has no capacity to manufacture such advanced phones. Indonesian consumers pay the monetary penalty.
印度尼西亚没有能力制造如此先进的手机。印度尼西亚消费者将承担经济损失。
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@blackvikingeire
You want to collect the money from Indonesians in your products, then invest there. Seems like a smart move from Indonesia to me.
你想在你的产品中从印度尼西亚人那里收钱，然后在那儿投资。我觉得这是印度尼西亚的一个聪明举措。
You want to collect the money from Indonesians in your products, then invest there. Seems like a smart move from Indonesia to me.
你想在你的产品中从印度尼西亚人那里收钱，然后在那儿投资。我觉得这是印度尼西亚的一个聪明举措。
@ramadhanisme7
learn to find another market then. It's not like life will be a hassle without iphone, apple need Indonesian market more than Indonesian market need apple
那就学会寻找其他市场吧。没有iPhone生活不会变得很麻烦，苹果需要印度尼西亚市场的需求比印度尼西亚市场对苹果的需求更大。
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learn to find another market then. It's not like life will be a hassle without iphone, apple need Indonesian market more than Indonesian market need apple
那就学会寻找其他市场吧。没有iPhone生活不会变得很麻烦，苹果需要印度尼西亚市场的需求比印度尼西亚市场对苹果的需求更大。
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@SaretGnasoh
that's not how capitalist work kiddo
这不是资本主义的运作方式，小朋友。
that's not how capitalist work kiddo
这不是资本主义的运作方式，小朋友。
@brehgankage6242
Well done Indonesia
印度尼西亚做得很好。
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Well done Indonesia
印度尼西亚做得很好。
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@Jg32234
It will have little or no effect on apples revenue or margin. iPhone market share in Indonesia is only 12%. Those that can afford it there are going to buy the new phones from abroad. This whole thing is just for show.
这对苹果的收入或利润几乎没有影响。iPhone在印度尼西亚的市场份额仅为12%。在那里能负担得起的人会去国外购买新手机。这一切只是做做样子。
It will have little or no effect on apples revenue or margin. iPhone market share in Indonesia is only 12%. Those that can afford it there are going to buy the new phones from abroad. This whole thing is just for show.
这对苹果的收入或利润几乎没有影响。iPhone在印度尼西亚的市场份额仅为12%。在那里能负担得起的人会去国外购买新手机。这一切只是做做样子。
@tylerd8245
Don't expect these people to understand cause and effect.
不要指望这些人理解因果关系。
Don't expect these people to understand cause and effect.
不要指望这些人理解因果关系。
@isacnomy
Great jobb indonesia
印度尼西亚干得好。
Great jobb indonesia
印度尼西亚干得好。
@ardentblue7493
indonesian who wanted to purchase iphone 16 will go travel to neighboring countries such as Malaysia and Singapore.. it will be victory for Malaysia and Singapore in terms of tourism and business
想购买iPhone 16的印度尼西亚人将会去马来西亚和新加坡等邻国旅行。这将是马来西亚和新加坡在旅游和商业方面的胜利。
indonesian who wanted to purchase iphone 16 will go travel to neighboring countries such as Malaysia and Singapore.. it will be victory for Malaysia and Singapore in terms of tourism and business
想购买iPhone 16的印度尼西亚人将会去马来西亚和新加坡等邻国旅行。这将是马来西亚和新加坡在旅游和商业方面的胜利。
@openai5667
no warranty, no imei, illegal product. What do you expect from this market?
没有保修，没有IMEI，属于非法产品。你对这个市场有什么期待？
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no warranty, no imei, illegal product. What do you expect from this market?
没有保修，没有IMEI，属于非法产品。你对这个市场有什么期待？
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@UnikUmbra
it is useless if Indonesian citizens who buy Iphone 16 abroad will not be able to use it in Indonesia. because Imei is blocked. also if caught having iphone 16 then it is an illegal act and can be subject to sanctions.
如果印度尼西亚公民在国外购买iPhone 16后无法在印度尼西亚使用，那就毫无意义。因为IMEI被封锁。此外，如果被抓到拥有iPhone 16，则属于非法行为，可能会受到制裁。
it is useless if Indonesian citizens who buy Iphone 16 abroad will not be able to use it in Indonesia. because Imei is blocked. also if caught having iphone 16 then it is an illegal act and can be subject to sanctions.
如果印度尼西亚公民在国外购买iPhone 16后无法在印度尼西亚使用，那就毫无意义。因为IMEI被封锁。此外，如果被抓到拥有iPhone 16，则属于非法行为，可能会受到制裁。
@diamondsauthority4143
investment is good on these big population countries. asian countries are getting wealthier and their people too getting more consumptive. on a long run it’ll be a good investment if apple bring themselves to Indonesia. though people can buy it abroad or import from a third party, the sell will remain lower than the other option
在这些人口众多的国家投资是好的。亚洲国家越来越富裕，人们也变得更加消费。从长远来看，如果苹果能够进入印度尼西亚，这将是一个好的投资。尽管人们可以在国外购买或从第三方进口，但销售仍将低于其他选择。
investment is good on these big population countries. asian countries are getting wealthier and their people too getting more consumptive. on a long run it’ll be a good investment if apple bring themselves to Indonesia. though people can buy it abroad or import from a third party, the sell will remain lower than the other option
在这些人口众多的国家投资是好的。亚洲国家越来越富裕，人们也变得更加消费。从长远来看，如果苹果能够进入印度尼西亚，这将是一个好的投资。尽管人们可以在国外购买或从第三方进口，但销售仍将低于其他选择。
@Xenos3640
Good news for Chinese smartphone.
对中国智能手机来说是个好消息。
Good news for Chinese smartphone.
对中国智能手机来说是个好消息。
@Aan_id5899
Who said that 12% of the largest iPhone users are in Southeast Asia, yes in Indonesia because of its large population
谁说12%的最大iPhone用户在东南亚，是的，在印度尼西亚，因为它有庞大的人口。
Who said that 12% of the largest iPhone users are in Southeast Asia, yes in Indonesia because of its large population
谁说12%的最大iPhone用户在东南亚，是的，在印度尼西亚，因为它有庞大的人口。
@EndingRex
You need to know that 12% is still a whole lot, especially if it comes from a country that is the fourth of the highest population in the whole world.
你需要知道12%仍然是相当可观的，特别是当它来自一个世界上第四大人口的国家时。
You need to know that 12% is still a whole lot, especially if it comes from a country that is the fourth of the highest population in the whole world.
你需要知道12%仍然是相当可观的，特别是当它来自一个世界上第四大人口的国家时。
@gamerroblox-q3l
it's worst when you want to claim waranty and take a time
当你想要申请保修时，情况会更糟，还要花费时间。
it's worst when you want to claim waranty and take a time
当你想要申请保修时，情况会更糟，还要花费时间。
@sib1212
12% is fking lot. usa ban huawei, dji for make their apple sales high in usa otherwise crapple is never get good sales in usa too
12%是非常多的。美国禁止华为和大疆以提高苹果在美国的销量，否则苹果在美国也不会有好销量。
12% is fking lot. usa ban huawei, dji for make their apple sales high in usa otherwise crapple is never get good sales in usa too
12%是非常多的。美国禁止华为和大疆以提高苹果在美国的销量，否则苹果在美国也不会有好销量。
@Omar-kl3xp
you do realise that 12% is actually a lot right? Especially with a big population like Indonesia
你知道12%实际上是很多的，对吧？尤其是在像印度尼西亚这样的大国。
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you do realise that 12% is actually a lot right? Especially with a big population like Indonesia
你知道12%实际上是很多的，对吧？尤其是在像印度尼西亚这样的大国。
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@Amri-gg9xs
Jobless clowns
失业的小丑。
Jobless clowns
失业的小丑。
@juamu1132
your sanction your citizens? hahahahaha
你在制裁自己的公民吗？哈哈哈哈。
your sanction your citizens? hahahahaha
你在制裁自己的公民吗？哈哈哈哈。
@JeffreyJohannes
There is a requirement for locally source component. Apple actually planned to open factory in Indonesia under one condition, tax free for 50 years, which is something that our government can't agree about.
有要求必须使用本地采购的组件。苹果实际上计划在印度尼西亚开设工厂，但有一个条件，即免税50年，而这正是我们政府无法同意的。
There is a requirement for locally source component. Apple actually planned to open factory in Indonesia under one condition, tax free for 50 years, which is something that our government can't agree about.
有要求必须使用本地采购的组件。苹果实际上计划在印度尼西亚开设工厂，但有一个条件，即免税50年，而这正是我们政府无法同意的。
@Xplosiv3s
50 years wtf
50年，天哪。
50 years wtf
50年，天哪。
@ChrisAlbertH47
50 years is excessive. They should've started the bid at 20.
50年太过分了。他们应该从20年开始讨论。
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50 years is excessive. They should've started the bid at 20.
50年太过分了。他们应该从20年开始讨论。
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@editorizal
Gila yg bener aja, kita kelas menengah apa apa dipajakin. Konglomerat asing ga boleh bebas pajak selama itu.
真是疯了，我们中产阶级的所有事情都要被征税。外资企业怎么可以享受这么长时间的免税。
Gila yg bener aja, kita kelas menengah apa apa dipajakin. Konglomerat asing ga boleh bebas pajak selama itu.
真是疯了，我们中产阶级的所有事情都要被征税。外资企业怎么可以享受这么长时间的免税。
@nayan.punekar
5 at most amd that's already overboard
最多5年，这已经超出合理范围。
5 at most amd that's already overboard
最多5年，这已经超出合理范围。
@pasarbarutimur
50?! shame on them really
50年？！他们真是丢脸。
50?! shame on them really
50年？！他们真是丢脸。
@Ethian315
Wanna live rent free in Indonesia while harvesting your resources and earn your people money. That's bull sh|t.
想在印度尼西亚免费居住，同时掠夺资源赚取当地人民的钱。这真是胡说。
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Wanna live rent free in Indonesia while harvesting your resources and earn your people money. That's bull sh|t.
想在印度尼西亚免费居住，同时掠夺资源赚取当地人民的钱。这真是胡说。
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@Bangkang363
yes
是的。
yes
是的。
@asia.network5475
better than nothing.
总比没有好。
better than nothing.
总比没有好。
@JeffreyJohannes
It's not a big deal anyway, since the new features that iPhone 16 has is the AI which you can't use on the launch day since it's under development and the other is the stupid touch sensitive camera button. Which makes taking photos even more difficult than using the menus on the phone. Check the reviews about iPhone 16. The reviewers are disappointed and planned to return theirs.
这无所谓，因为iPhone 16的新功能是人工智能，你在发布当天无法使用，因为它还在开发中，另一个是愚蠢的触控摄像头按钮。这使得拍照比使用手机菜单更困难。看看关于iPhone 16的评论。评论者感到失望，并计划退货。
It's not a big deal anyway, since the new features that iPhone 16 has is the AI which you can't use on the launch day since it's under development and the other is the stupid touch sensitive camera button. Which makes taking photos even more difficult than using the menus on the phone. Check the reviews about iPhone 16. The reviewers are disappointed and planned to return theirs.
这无所谓，因为iPhone 16的新功能是人工智能，你在发布当天无法使用，因为它还在开发中，另一个是愚蠢的触控摄像头按钮。这使得拍照比使用手机菜单更困难。看看关于iPhone 16的评论。评论者感到失望，并计划退货。
@TRcommander
Tech company probably won't last 50 years
科技公司可能撑不到50年。
Tech company probably won't last 50 years
科技公司可能撑不到50年。
@theforge4591
apple got the deal in vietnam i read in one of the news. I still think Indonesia missed the opportunity tho. I dont use apple lol too expensive for me
我在新闻中看到苹果在越南达成了协议。我仍然认为印度尼西亚错过了机会。我不使用苹果，太贵了。
apple got the deal in vietnam i read in one of the news. I still think Indonesia missed the opportunity tho. I dont use apple lol too expensive for me
我在新闻中看到苹果在越南达成了协议。我仍然认为印度尼西亚错过了机会。我不使用苹果，太贵了。
@Aan_id5899
Other brands will protest if it is fulfilled by the Indonesian government
如果印尼政府满足这个要求，其他品牌会抗议。
Other brands will protest if it is fulfilled by the Indonesian government
如果印尼政府满足这个要求，其他品牌会抗议。
@AJ-kc4ry
Tax free should be as long as the factory is in there
只要工厂在那里，免税就应该持续。
Tax free should be as long as the factory is in there
只要工厂在那里，免税就应该持续。
@uwancarbonel2776
If apple get what they want, other brand will request the same practice and our governmwnt will loose soo much tax money if that happen.
如果苹果得到他们想要的，其他品牌也会要求同样的做法，如果发生这种情况，我们的政府将损失大量税收。
If apple get what they want, other brand will request the same practice and our governmwnt will loose soo much tax money if that happen.
如果苹果得到他们想要的，其他品牌也会要求同样的做法，如果发生这种情况，我们的政府将损失大量税收。
@josenwushangkehan
Tax free for 50 years !!!! Come on lah... that condition alone shows Apple has no good intention ... thats economic colonialism.... you expect any govt to approve such condition ? Nutz ! Bo Nao ..... where got such thing one leh !!!!????
免税50年！真是天方夜谭……光这个条件就说明苹果没有好意……这就是经济殖民主义……你指望哪个政府同意这样的条件？太荒唐了！
Tax free for 50 years !!!! Come on lah... that condition alone shows Apple has no good intention ... thats economic colonialism.... you expect any govt to approve such condition ? Nutz ! Bo Nao ..... where got such thing one leh !!!!????
免税50年！真是天方夜谭……光这个条件就说明苹果没有好意……这就是经济殖民主义……你指望哪个政府同意这样的条件？太荒唐了！
@brian9829
itu angka nya ga ngasal, itu tawaran dari vietnam. Makanya apple jadinya buka ke vietnam, soalnya indonesia ga mau nyamain tawaran vietnam. Realistis aja, bisnis pasti ngambil deal terbaik.
这个数字不是随便来的，而是越南的报价。因此苹果选择在越南开设工厂，因为印度尼西亚不愿意匹配越南的报价。现实点，商业上肯定会选择最优的交易。
itu angka nya ga ngasal, itu tawaran dari vietnam. Makanya apple jadinya buka ke vietnam, soalnya indonesia ga mau nyamain tawaran vietnam. Realistis aja, bisnis pasti ngambil deal terbaik.
这个数字不是随便来的，而是越南的报价。因此苹果选择在越南开设工厂，因为印度尼西亚不愿意匹配越南的报价。现实点，商业上肯定会选择最优的交易。
@brian9829
search vietnam tax freedom. The 50 years number came from them offering to foreign investor.
查查越南的免税政策。50年的数字是他们提供给外国投资者的。
search vietnam tax freedom. The 50 years number came from them offering to foreign investor.
查查越南的免税政策。50年的数字是他们提供给外国投资者的。
@asyraf2057
10 years could be logic but 50 years tax free is kind an absurd. No country can give this kind of benefit then. Too demanding.
10年是合逻辑的，但50年的免税实在太荒唐。没有国家能提供这种好处，太过于苛求了。
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10 years could be logic but 50 years tax free is kind an absurd. No country can give this kind of benefit then. Too demanding.
10年是合逻辑的，但50年的免税实在太荒唐。没有国家能提供这种好处，太过于苛求了。
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@madmanmadlad2876
Vietnam give 50 years free tax for apple factory
越南给苹果工厂50年免税。
Vietnam give 50 years free tax for apple factory
越南给苹果工厂50年免税。
@tanalson
yup. 5 years is minimum. They could actually negotiate for extension for another 5 years only if they locally employ minimum 500 additional employees every 5 years(must be local citizen). Unable to achieve this criteria, business tax will continue to be applied as usual
没错，5年是最低要求。他们实际上可以谈判延长5年，但前提是每五年至少雇佣500名本地员工。如果未能达到这个标准，企业税将照常征收。
yup. 5 years is minimum. They could actually negotiate for extension for another 5 years only if they locally employ minimum 500 additional employees every 5 years(must be local citizen). Unable to achieve this criteria, business tax will continue to be applied as usual
没错，5年是最低要求。他们实际上可以谈判延长5年，但前提是每五年至少雇佣500名本地员工。如果未能达到这个标准，企业税将照常征收。
@hanselsihotang
I wonder what Money scheme Vietnam can acquire from Apple to compensate for that 50 years tax free benefit. Even "providing cheap job opportunities to vienamese workers" might be a little too lacking for such benefit to be feasible
我想知道越南能从苹果那里获得什么样的资金补偿，以换取50年的免税好处。甚至“提供便宜的工作机会给越南工人”可能对如此巨大的好处来说也显得不够。
I wonder what Money scheme Vietnam can acquire from Apple to compensate for that 50 years tax free benefit. Even "providing cheap job opportunities to vienamese workers" might be a little too lacking for such benefit to be feasible
我想知道越南能从苹果那里获得什么样的资金补偿，以换取50年的免税好处。甚至“提供便宜的工作机会给越南工人”可能对如此巨大的好处来说也显得不够。
@anaskhoiri3653
Vietnam have population of 100 million gonna see how much use iphone
越南有一亿人口，看看有多少人使用iPhone。
Vietnam have population of 100 million gonna see how much use iphone
越南有一亿人口，看看有多少人使用iPhone。
@idocipp9936
Dari pada memberikan itu, lebih baik tidak pakai produk USA.. Pemerintahan indonesia yang sekarang bukan pemerintahan yang dulu, , Yang dulu indonesia membiarkan Gunung Emas di papua indonesia di keruk dan di ambil Oleh perusahaan USA lebih dari 50 tahun, sekarang kebodohan itu tak akan pernah terulang kembali.. Gunung Emas di keruk selama lebih dari 50 tahun oleh PT freeport, dan sampai sekarang masih belum habis.. Jangan sampai kita di bodohi oleh USA lagi...
与其给他们，不如不使用美国的产品。现在的印度尼西亚政府与之前的不同，以前印度尼西亚允许美国公司在印尼的黄金山开采超过50年，现在这样的愚蠢不会再重演。自由港公司在50多年的开采中至今仍未结束。不要让我们再被美国愚弄了。
Dari pada memberikan itu, lebih baik tidak pakai produk USA.. Pemerintahan indonesia yang sekarang bukan pemerintahan yang dulu, , Yang dulu indonesia membiarkan Gunung Emas di papua indonesia di keruk dan di ambil Oleh perusahaan USA lebih dari 50 tahun, sekarang kebodohan itu tak akan pernah terulang kembali.. Gunung Emas di keruk selama lebih dari 50 tahun oleh PT freeport, dan sampai sekarang masih belum habis.. Jangan sampai kita di bodohi oleh USA lagi...
与其给他们，不如不使用美国的产品。现在的印度尼西亚政府与之前的不同，以前印度尼西亚允许美国公司在印尼的黄金山开采超过50年，现在这样的愚蠢不会再重演。自由港公司在50多年的开采中至今仍未结束。不要让我们再被美国愚弄了。
@bayyonetta2989
like vietnam?
像越南一样？
like vietnam?
像越南一样？
@TxxT33
yeah fk that!
是的，去你妈的！
yeah fk that!
是的，去你妈的！
@ituvisky11
50 years is wild bruh
50年实在太疯狂了，兄弟。
50 years is wild bruh
50年实在太疯狂了，兄弟。
@dzxtricks
This is actually a smart move by the Indonesian government. Yes so many apple fans would be disappointed but for the long run this might help the country to be less "consumer" or "underdog" country
这实际上是印度尼西亚政府的聪明举动。是的，很多苹果粉丝会感到失望，但从长远来看，这可能会帮助这个国家不再是一个“消费型”或“弱势”国家。
This is actually a smart move by the Indonesian government. Yes so many apple fans would be disappointed but for the long run this might help the country to be less "consumer" or "underdog" country
这实际上是印度尼西亚政府的聪明举动。是的，很多苹果粉丝会感到失望，但从长远来看，这可能会帮助这个国家不再是一个“消费型”或“弱势”国家。
@AWSOM817
Devil in details, gave concession on tax just a facade. The reason is Vietnam’s access to Chinese market while Indonesia depend to its own market. This is more about geopolitics with some smidge off economics.
细节中藏着魔鬼，给予税收的让步只是一种表象。原因在于越南能够进入中国市场，而印度尼西亚则依赖自身市场。这更多是关于地缘政治的问题，稍微涉及经济。
Devil in details, gave concession on tax just a facade. The reason is Vietnam’s access to Chinese market while Indonesia depend to its own market. This is more about geopolitics with some smidge off economics.
细节中藏着魔鬼，给予税收的让步只是一种表象。原因在于越南能够进入中国市场，而印度尼西亚则依赖自身市场。这更多是关于地缘政治的问题，稍微涉及经济。
@lqfr8813
the problem is, iphone is considered luxury items. not putting tax on luxury items are plain illegal if they sell their product here taking money
问题是，iPhone被视为奢侈品。如果他们在这里销售产品而不对奢侈品征税，那就是违法的。
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the problem is, iphone is considered luxury items. not putting tax on luxury items are plain illegal if they sell their product here taking money
问题是，iPhone被视为奢侈品。如果他们在这里销售产品而不对奢侈品征税，那就是违法的。
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@ozvarifriliandi
50years of tax free what tf is that proposal
50年免税，这是什么荒唐的提议？
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50years of tax free what tf is that proposal
50年免税，这是什么荒唐的提议？
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@fidelisitor8953
Such a dumb comment. Intel has been around for 56 years and are still going strong.
Even Apple themselves have been around for 48 years and are currently the most valuable company in the world. They aren't going away anytime soon.
这样的评论真是愚蠢。英特尔已经存在了56年，依然强劲。甚至苹果自己也已经存在了48年，现在是世界上最有价值的公司。他们不会很快消失。
Such a dumb comment. Intel has been around for 56 years and are still going strong.
Even Apple themselves have been around for 48 years and are currently the most valuable company in the world. They aren't going away anytime soon.
这样的评论真是愚蠢。英特尔已经存在了56年，依然强劲。甚至苹果自己也已经存在了48年，现在是世界上最有价值的公司。他们不会很快消失。
@adamuk8199
Good move from Indonesia
印度尼西亚的举措很好。
Good move from Indonesia
印度尼西亚的举措很好。
@yusufabdurrauf7429
And finally we have the real president (Mr.Prabowo) not like the incompetent before...
最后我们有了真正的总统（普拉博沃先生），而不是之前那个无能的。
And finally we have the real president (Mr.Prabowo) not like the incompetent before...
最后我们有了真正的总统（普拉博沃先生），而不是之前那个无能的。
@hijranlo2171
Good move from Indonesian, Indonesia don’t have any apple store so they need to import it from Singapore/Malaysia/China every year, and it’s only benefiting that exporter country, eventhough Indonesian have big market for apple but still apple don’t want to open their official store there, sooo i think that’s very brave move from the goverment to put their country first
印度尼西亚的举措很好，印度尼西亚没有苹果商店，所以他们每年需要从新加坡/马来西亚/中国进口，而这只会让出口国受益，尽管印度尼西亚有巨大的苹果市场，但苹果仍然不愿意在那开设官方商店。因此，我认为政府把国家放在首位是非常勇敢的举措。
Good move from Indonesian, Indonesia don’t have any apple store so they need to import it from Singapore/Malaysia/China every year, and it’s only benefiting that exporter country, eventhough Indonesian have big market for apple but still apple don’t want to open their official store there, sooo i think that’s very brave move from the goverment to put their country first
印度尼西亚的举措很好，印度尼西亚没有苹果商店，所以他们每年需要从新加坡/马来西亚/中国进口，而这只会让出口国受益，尽管印度尼西亚有巨大的苹果市场，但苹果仍然不愿意在那开设官方商店。因此，我认为政府把国家放在首位是非常勇敢的举措。
@appgwp7082
stop memperkaya singapore
停止让新加坡受益。
stop memperkaya singapore
停止让新加坡受益。
@bladus-rwn784
Setuju
同意。
Setuju
同意。
@dickyjoelsaputra4991
not apple store but apple factory
不是苹果商店，而是苹果工厂。
not apple store but apple factory
不是苹果商店，而是苹果工厂。
@rin7109
pabrik apel tapi apel punya persyaratan. pabrik mereka tidak dikenakan pajak selama 50 tahun jadi pemerintah akhir melarang apel
苹果工厂有条件。他们的工厂在50年内免税，因此政府最终禁止了苹果。
pabrik apel tapi apel punya persyaratan. pabrik mereka tidak dikenakan pajak selama 50 tahun jadi pemerintah akhir melarang apel
苹果工厂有条件。他们的工厂在50年内免税，因此政府最终禁止了苹果。
@manuel6273
Dua duanya mas. Mereka sadar Indonesia pasar besar tapi gak mau bangun pabrik dan lebih parahnya buka toko official aja kaga mau。
两者都有。他们意识到印度尼西亚是一个大市场，但却不愿意建立工厂，甚至连开设官方商店的意愿都没有。
Dua duanya mas. Mereka sadar Indonesia pasar besar tapi gak mau bangun pabrik dan lebih parahnya buka toko official aja kaga mau。
两者都有。他们意识到印度尼西亚是一个大市场，但却不愿意建立工厂，甚至连开设官方商店的意愿都没有。
@kylejames418
Apple is asking the Indonesian government to agree to a 50-year tax exemption for their factory in Indonesia. Who in their right mind would agree to that.
苹果要求印度尼西亚政府同意为其在印度尼西亚的工厂提供50年的免税。谁会同意这样的要求呢？
Apple is asking the Indonesian government to agree to a 50-year tax exemption for their factory in Indonesia. Who in their right mind would agree to that.
苹果要求印度尼西亚政府同意为其在印度尼西亚的工厂提供50年的免税。谁会同意这样的要求呢？
@ramadhanisme7
Vietnamese apparently
显然是越南人。
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Vietnamese apparently
显然是越南人。
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@babosing
china, vietnam, india
中国，越南，印度。
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china, vietnam, india
中国，越南，印度。
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@syarifairlangga4608
because it absorb employee. Thats why other company give a tax free.
因为它吸纳了员工。这就是其他公司给予免税的原因。
because it absorb employee. Thats why other company give a tax free.
因为它吸纳了员工。这就是其他公司给予免税的原因。
@kylejames418
i don't think china and india agreed on that. Apple desperately needs india and china, not the other way around. However, I don't know about vietnam.
我认为中国和印度并没有达成一致。苹果公司迫切需要印度和中国，而不是反过来。不过，我对越南不太了解。
i don't think china and india agreed on that. Apple desperately needs india and china, not the other way around. However, I don't know about vietnam.
我认为中国和印度并没有达成一致。苹果公司迫切需要印度和中国，而不是反过来。不过，我对越南不太了解。
@abdulwahidmdtahir3660
With or without IPhone 16, nobody in Indonesia is sturving.
无论是否有iPhone 16，印尼没人会饥饿。
With or without IPhone 16, nobody in Indonesia is sturving.
无论是否有iPhone 16，印尼没人会饥饿。
@sayfolman7752
Really When 7 Million Became Jobless And The Number Keeps Increasing
真的，当700万人失业时，数字还在不断增加。
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Really When 7 Million Became Jobless And The Number Keeps Increasing
真的，当700万人失业时，数字还在不断增加。
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@putatoee
I am not sturving either
我也没饥饿。
I am not sturving either
我也没饥饿。
@abdulwahidmdtahir3660
they became jobless NOT because of the absence of IPhone 16.
他们失业并不是因为没有iPhone 16。
they became jobless NOT because of the absence of IPhone 16.
他们失业并不是因为没有iPhone 16。
@marvincampbell7773
Well done Indonesia
干得好，印尼。
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Well done Indonesia
干得好，印尼。
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@ChrisAlbertH47
I actually have no issue with Apple being made to use locally sourced components. If a company as big and profitable as Apple is going to benefit from the large market of a country, it's only fair that the country benefits as well. Good for you, Indonesia.
我实际上对苹果被要求使用本地采购的组件没有问题。如果像苹果这样大且盈利丰厚的公司能够从一个国家的大市场中获益，那么这个国家也理应受益。印尼，你们做得好。
I actually have no issue with Apple being made to use locally sourced components. If a company as big and profitable as Apple is going to benefit from the large market of a country, it's only fair that the country benefits as well. Good for you, Indonesia.
我实际上对苹果被要求使用本地采购的组件没有问题。如果像苹果这样大且盈利丰厚的公司能够从一个国家的大市场中获益，那么这个国家也理应受益。印尼，你们做得好。
@ChrisAlbertH47
And why stop there, Einstein?
那为什么不再进一步呢，爱因斯坦？
And why stop there, Einstein?
那为什么不再进一步呢，爱因斯坦？
@WarzoneOfficial22789
yuuppz.. setiap tahun Indonesia mengimpor produk Apple sebesar $2 miliar dollar dan kami masih belum memilki Apple store.. sedangkan negara sekecil singapura memiliki 5 apple store.. Benar2 sebuah penghinaan terhadap indonesia.
是的……每年印尼进口苹果产品达到20亿美元，而我们仍然没有苹果专卖店……而像新加坡这样的小国却有5家苹果专卖店……真是对印尼的羞辱。
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yuuppz.. setiap tahun Indonesia mengimpor produk Apple sebesar $2 miliar dollar dan kami masih belum memilki Apple store.. sedangkan negara sekecil singapura memiliki 5 apple store.. Benar2 sebuah penghinaan terhadap indonesia.
是的……每年印尼进口苹果产品达到20亿美元，而我们仍然没有苹果专卖店……而像新加坡这样的小国却有5家苹果专卖店……真是对印尼的羞辱。
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@bewe5473
ya karna mungkin mereka bebas jual disana tanpa tax, makanya bisa lebih murah. Lagian kalo di survey juga gw yakin lebih banyak produk android yg berkeliaran di indo dari pada iOS, bukan karna gengsi tapi ya realitanya karna di indo hp midrange itu primadona.
是啊，因为他们在那边销售时可能不需要缴税，所以价格会更便宜。而且如果调查的话，我相信在印尼流通的安卓产品要比iOS多，这不是因为面子问题，而是因为在印尼，中档手机是最受欢迎的。
ya karna mungkin mereka bebas jual disana tanpa tax, makanya bisa lebih murah. Lagian kalo di survey juga gw yakin lebih banyak produk android yg berkeliaran di indo dari pada iOS, bukan karna gengsi tapi ya realitanya karna di indo hp midrange itu primadona.
是啊，因为他们在那边销售时可能不需要缴税，所以价格会更便宜。而且如果调查的话，我相信在印尼流通的安卓产品要比iOS多，这不是因为面子问题，而是因为在印尼，中档手机是最受欢迎的。
@lupisjawa
hp midrange lebih banyak karena emang pajak iphone disini mahal kalo harganya sama kyk singapura apple pasti udah jadi raja hp.
中档手机更多是因为这里的iPhone税太贵，如果价格和新加坡一样，苹果肯定会成为手机之王。
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hp midrange lebih banyak karena emang pajak iphone disini mahal kalo harganya sama kyk singapura apple pasti udah jadi raja hp.
中档手机更多是因为这里的iPhone税太贵，如果价格和新加坡一样，苹果肯定会成为手机之王。
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@bewe5473
ngga akan juga sih gan, secara iphone 15 pro aja 1.5k disana, disini kan pemain utamanya menengah kebawah yg idealnya pengen hp all rounder di range 5-8 jt. Kalo iphone masuk pake harga spore ya masih 16-17jt, Intinya beda target pasar aja sih。
也不一定吧，兄弟，毕竟那里的iPhone 15Pro要1500美元，而这里的主要消费群体是中低端用户，他们理想中的手机是价位在5到8百万印尼盾的全能型手机。如果iPhone以新加坡的价格进入，可能还要16到17百万印尼盾，关键是目标市场不同。
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ngga akan juga sih gan, secara iphone 15 pro aja 1.5k disana, disini kan pemain utamanya menengah kebawah yg idealnya pengen hp all rounder di range 5-8 jt. Kalo iphone masuk pake harga spore ya masih 16-17jt, Intinya beda target pasar aja sih。
也不一定吧，兄弟，毕竟那里的iPhone 15Pro要1500美元，而这里的主要消费群体是中低端用户，他们理想中的手机是价位在5到8百万印尼盾的全能型手机。如果iPhone以新加坡的价格进入，可能还要16到17百万印尼盾，关键是目标市场不同。
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@TAPERAA
NO FACTORY IN INDONESIA = NO PRODUCT FOR SELL APPLE
在印尼没有工厂 = 苹果就没有产品可售。
NO FACTORY IN INDONESIA = NO PRODUCT FOR SELL APPLE
在印尼没有工厂 = 苹果就没有产品可售。
@Singapura.i
The actions taken by Apple are good. Moreover, yesterday's iPhone 15 sales did not reach 1/8 of the sales volume in Singapore. That means that only a few people in your country can afford an iPhone. What Apple does. To minimize the cost and tax burden on products sold in your country. Apple's sales are also not very good in Indonesia because there are so many poor people, right?
苹果采取的措施是好的。此外，昨天iPhone 15的销售量没有达到新加坡的八分之一。这意味着在你们国家，只有少数人能够负担得起iPhone。苹果这么做是为了降低在你们国家销售产品的成本和税负。苹果在印尼的销售情况也不太好，因为这里有很多穷人，对吧？
The actions taken by Apple are good. Moreover, yesterday's iPhone 15 sales did not reach 1/8 of the sales volume in Singapore. That means that only a few people in your country can afford an iPhone. What Apple does. To minimize the cost and tax burden on products sold in your country. Apple's sales are also not very good in Indonesia because there are so many poor people, right?
苹果采取的措施是好的。此外，昨天iPhone 15的销售量没有达到新加坡的八分之一。这意味着在你们国家，只有少数人能够负担得起iPhone。苹果这么做是为了降低在你们国家销售产品的成本和税负。苹果在印尼的销售情况也不太好，因为这里有很多穷人，对吧？
@rezaabdulaziz7914
what are you talkin bout
你在说什么？
what are you talkin bout
你在说什么？
@Singapura.i
bro indonesia have the largest gdp in asean. Yes the poor is many, but also the rich people. The difference beetwen them is alot
兄弟，印尼在东南亚国家中GDP最大。是的，穷人很多，但富人也不少。他们之间的差距很大。
bro indonesia have the largest gdp in asean. Yes the poor is many, but also the rich people. The difference beetwen them is alot
兄弟，印尼在东南亚国家中GDP最大。是的，穷人很多，但富人也不少。他们之间的差距很大。
@AZ-gq6cl
Did you even watch the video? It's said iPhone 16 only, not the whole iPhones!
你有看过视频吗？视频中提到的只是iPhone 16，而不是所有iPhone！
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Did you even watch the video? It's said iPhone 16 only, not the whole iPhones!
你有看过视频吗？视频中提到的只是iPhone 16，而不是所有iPhone！
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@69leonite
even though there's only 10% of indonesian can afford iphone, but 10% of 280 million is 28 million that's more than 5x Singapore population.
即使只有10%的印尼人能买得起iPhone，但280万的10%是2800万，这可比新加坡的人口多出5倍。
even though there's only 10% of indonesian can afford iphone, but 10% of 280 million is 28 million that's more than 5x Singapore population.
即使只有10%的印尼人能买得起iPhone，但280万的10%是2800万，这可比新加坡的人口多出5倍。
@ieyazzu9297
word "many" and "few" is relative. Also, it depends on what the market wanted. If i want Android, I'd buy Android.
“很多”和“少”是相对的。此外，这也取决于市场的需求。如果我想要安卓手机，我就会买安卓。
word "many" and "few" is relative. Also, it depends on what the market wanted. If i want Android, I'd buy Android.
“很多”和“少”是相对的。此外，这也取决于市场的需求。如果我想要安卓手机，我就会买安卓。
@dzaky7205
Poor?? we have 50 mill people middle classs broo,,,
穷人？？我们有5000万中产阶级，兄弟。
Poor?? we have 50 mill people middle classs broo,,,
穷人？？我们有5000万中产阶级，兄弟。
@Clip_Gallery
we have 280 mil peoples. if you dont give us a cake, you can't make money in indonesia
我们有2.8亿人。如果你不给我们蛋糕，你就无法在印尼赚钱。
we have 280 mil peoples. if you dont give us a cake, you can't make money in indonesia
我们有2.8亿人。如果你不给我们蛋糕，你就无法在印尼赚钱。
@Xplosiv3s
Why doesn't apple invest in manufacturing in Indonesia
为什么苹果不在印尼投资建厂？
Why doesn't apple invest in manufacturing in Indonesia
为什么苹果不在印尼投资建厂？
@tylerd8245
Everyone is for free markets until they want more. Hypocrites.
每个人都支持自由市场，直到他们想要更多。真是伪善。
Everyone is for free markets until they want more. Hypocrites.
每个人都支持自由市场，直到他们想要更多。真是伪善。
@wanrazul
Beli saja di Apple Store di Malaysia. Lebih dekat, lebih terjangkau.
直接在马来西亚的苹果专卖店买吧。更近，更实惠。
Beli saja di Apple Store di Malaysia. Lebih dekat, lebih terjangkau.
直接在马来西亚的苹果专卖店买吧。更近，更实惠。
@swarajthapa5798
Indonesian will flock to Singapore to purchase iphone. Indonesia will lose the revenue. It is not loss loss situation both Apple and Indonesia.
印尼人会涌向新加坡购买iPhone。印尼将失去收入。这对苹果和印尼来说都不是双赢的局面。
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Indonesian will flock to Singapore to purchase iphone. Indonesia will lose the revenue. It is not loss loss situation both Apple and Indonesia.
印尼人会涌向新加坡购买iPhone。印尼将失去收入。这对苹果和印尼来说都不是双赢的局面。
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@Clip_Gallery
loss the revenue? indonesia gov get 150 usd. and android who make factory in indonesia can get former iphone user market!
失去收入？印尼政府能得到150美元。而在印尼建厂的安卓品牌可以获取之前的iPhone用户市场！
loss the revenue? indonesia gov get 150 usd. and android who make factory in indonesia can get former iphone user market!
失去收入？印尼政府能得到150美元。而在印尼建厂的安卓品牌可以获取之前的iPhone用户市场！
@hitthedeck4115
There's no such free market like what you imagine. Countries also regularly put tariffs against each other to protect their own interest.
并没有你想象的那种完全自由的市场。各国也会定期对彼此加征关税以保护自己的利益。
There's no such free market like what you imagine. Countries also regularly put tariffs against each other to protect their own interest.
并没有你想象的那种完全自由的市场。各国也会定期对彼此加征关税以保护自己的利益。
@tylerd8245
Agree, but I did not mean to imply a perfect free market. Of course tariffs, subsidization and import/export restrictions are in play, the cost and benefit of which must be weighed carefully.
我同意，但我并不是想暗示存在完美的自由市场。当然，关税、补贴和进出口限制是不可避免的，成本和收益必须仔细权衡。
Agree, but I did not mean to imply a perfect free market. Of course tariffs, subsidization and import/export restrictions are in play, the cost and benefit of which must be weighed carefully.
我同意，但我并不是想暗示存在完美的自由市场。当然，关税、补贴和进出口限制是不可避免的，成本和收益必须仔细权衡。
@ricosubekti1450
who say free market? this is my country. and my country has its own regulations. we have a market, and you sell without following the
market owner's regulations?? how could that be possible.
谁说自由市场？这是我的国家。我的国家有自己的法规。我们有市场，而你在不遵循市场主人的规则下销售，怎么可能？
who say free market? this is my country. and my country has its own regulations. we have a market, and you sell without following the
market owner's regulations?? how could that be possible.
谁说自由市场？这是我的国家。我的国家有自己的法规。我们有市场，而你在不遵循市场主人的规则下销售，怎么可能？
@sherwinclarencego1933
Well rich Indonesians who could afford the iPhone can buy it in Thailand or Hong Kong and much cheaper than local prices.
那些能够负担得起iPhone的富裕印尼人可以在泰国或香港（特区）以比当地价格便宜得多的价格购买。
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Well rich Indonesians who could afford the iPhone can buy it in Thailand or Hong Kong and much cheaper than local prices.
那些能够负担得起iPhone的富裕印尼人可以在泰国或香港（特区）以比当地价格便宜得多的价格购买。
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@privacyhelp
Iphone should have been banned in the first place. Samsung, xiaomi, oppo, etc have factories in Indonesia but not iphone.
iPhone本来就应该被禁止。三星、小米、OPPO等在印尼都有工厂，而iPhone却没有。
Iphone should have been banned in the first place. Samsung, xiaomi, oppo, etc have factories in Indonesia but not iphone.
iPhone本来就应该被禁止。三星、小米、OPPO等在印尼都有工厂，而iPhone却没有。
@southside2459
so Indonesia should ban Apple for not setting up a factory in Indonesia, sounds excessive
所以印尼应该禁止苹果，因为他们没有在印尼设立工厂，这听起来有点过分。
so Indonesia should ban Apple for not setting up a factory in Indonesia, sounds excessive
所以印尼应该禁止苹果，因为他们没有在印尼设立工厂，这听起来有点过分。
@pritaf.s3637
yes, why not? If others can why not iPhone? Are they expecting special treatment just because it's American products? LMao
是的，为什么不呢？如果其他公司可以，iPhone为什么不行？难道他们因为是美国产品就期待特别待遇吗？哈哈。
yes, why not? If others can why not iPhone? Are they expecting special treatment just because it's American products? LMao
是的，为什么不呢？如果其他公司可以，iPhone为什么不行？难道他们因为是美国产品就期待特别待遇吗？哈哈。
@southside2459
companies don’t just set factories anywhere, there’s a lot that goes into consideration. Just because Apple doesn’t set a factory in Indonesia doesn’t mean you should cry over it
公司并不是随便在任何地方设厂，这里面有很多考虑。仅仅因为苹果没有在印尼建厂，并不意味着你应该为此感到悲伤。
companies don’t just set factories anywhere, there’s a lot that goes into consideration. Just because Apple doesn’t set a factory in Indonesia doesn’t mean you should cry over it
公司并不是随便在任何地方设厂，这里面有很多考虑。仅仅因为苹果没有在印尼建厂，并不意味着你应该为此感到悲伤。
@joMan1060
we dont cry over it.... we Indonesia have rules, not following our rules ? Then no need to sell here.. Indonesia is flooded by smartphones..we dont need apple.
我们并不是为此哭泣……我们印尼有自己的规则，不遵守我们的规则？那就不需要在这里销售……印尼的智能手机市场已经饱和，我们并不需要苹果。
we dont cry over it.... we Indonesia have rules, not following our rules ? Then no need to sell here.. Indonesia is flooded by smartphones..we dont need apple.
我们并不是为此哭泣……我们印尼有自己的规则，不遵守我们的规则？那就不需要在这里销售……印尼的智能手机市场已经饱和，我们并不需要苹果。
@southside2459
does any of the rules require phone manufacturers to build a factory to sell their phones, i find it unprecedented to ban Apple
这些规则中有没有要求手机制造商必须建厂才能销售手机的？我觉得禁止苹果是前所未有的。
does any of the rules require phone manufacturers to build a factory to sell their phones, i find it unprecedented to ban Apple
这些规则中有没有要求手机制造商必须建厂才能销售手机的？我觉得禁止苹果是前所未有的。
@ferrykurniawan1919
yes.. duh
是的……当然。
yes.. duh
是的……当然。
@Hiinc
yes, it is
是的，确实如此。
yes, it is
是的，确实如此。
@sib1212
apple cryied about huawei passing apple 2019 & usa block them saying military reasons but it for get more sales for crapple in usa otherwise crapple is done now in usa too.
苹果曾抱怨华为在2019年超过他们，而美国以军事原因阻止华为，但这只是为了在美国获取更多的销售，否则苹果在美国也会完蛋。
apple cryied about huawei passing apple 2019 & usa block them saying military reasons but it for get more sales for crapple in usa otherwise crapple is done now in usa too.
苹果曾抱怨华为在2019年超过他们，而美国以军事原因阻止华为，但这只是为了在美国获取更多的销售，否则苹果在美国也会完蛋。
@orhan989
Huawei
华为。
Huawei
华为。
@Freep-m2l
why people buy iphones is mind blogging
人们为什么会买iPhone真是让人困惑。
why people buy iphones is mind blogging
人们为什么会买iPhone真是让人困惑。
@CoPilot-o7w
If I had to give up iphone, I wish there were other alternatives than android. May be harmony os? but it has yet to be sold globally.
如果我必须放弃iPhone，我希望有其他替代品，而不是安卓。也许是鸿蒙系统？但它还没有全球销售。
If I had to give up iphone, I wish there were other alternatives than android. May be harmony os? but it has yet to be sold globally.
如果我必须放弃iPhone，我希望有其他替代品，而不是安卓。也许是鸿蒙系统？但它还没有全球销售。
@RichGems
Buy iPhone after two year’s of using can still sold at good price, but buy Huawie after a year of using sell it is a real joke nobody buy it and they will laugh at you.
购买iPhone两年后仍然能以好价钱出售，但买华为一年后再出售就真是笑话了，没人会买，他们会嘲笑你。
Buy iPhone after two year’s of using can still sold at good price, but buy Huawie after a year of using sell it is a real joke nobody buy it and they will laugh at you.
购买iPhone两年后仍然能以好价钱出售，但买华为一年后再出售就真是笑话了，没人会买，他们会嘲笑你。
@Nahan_Boker94
Indonesian here, iPhone actually have huge user here. But not as a really good tech to keep with but as accessory to mingle especially on higher ups and Jakarta. You will find a lot of people have debts just for latest Macbook/iPhone/iPad just to get chance ro speak with those that have a lot of connections/money. Some even resort buying very old ones like iPhone 8-11 or buying fake ones just to get mingle chance. Its insane but thats how it is. Same as using european cars vs Japanese/Chinese cars.
我是印尼人，实际上这里有大量的iPhone用户。但它并不是因为技术优秀，而是作为一种社交配饰，特别是在高层人士和雅加达。你会发现很多人为了最新的Macbook/iPhone/iPad而背负债务，只为了有机会和那些有很多人脉/钱的人交谈。有些人甚至会购买非常旧的型号，如iPhone 8-11，或者买假货来获得社交机会。这种现象令人难以置信，但事实就是如此。就像使用欧洲车和日本/中国车的区别一样。
Indonesian here, iPhone actually have huge user here. But not as a really good tech to keep with but as accessory to mingle especially on higher ups and Jakarta. You will find a lot of people have debts just for latest Macbook/iPhone/iPad just to get chance ro speak with those that have a lot of connections/money. Some even resort buying very old ones like iPhone 8-11 or buying fake ones just to get mingle chance. Its insane but thats how it is. Same as using european cars vs Japanese/Chinese cars.
我是印尼人，实际上这里有大量的iPhone用户。但它并不是因为技术优秀，而是作为一种社交配饰，特别是在高层人士和雅加达。你会发现很多人为了最新的Macbook/iPhone/iPad而背负债务，只为了有机会和那些有很多人脉/钱的人交谈。有些人甚至会购买非常旧的型号，如iPhone 8-11，或者买假货来获得社交机会。这种现象令人难以置信，但事实就是如此。就像使用欧洲车和日本/中国车的区别一样。
@tomshaji
depends on your country, people who buy old phones are actually fools. No upxes, no security
这取决于你所在的国家，买旧手机的人其实是傻瓜。没有更新，没有安全保障。
depends on your country, people who buy old phones are actually fools. No upxes, no security
这取决于你所在的国家，买旧手机的人其实是傻瓜。没有更新，没有安全保障。
@CoPilot-o7w
you raise a valid point. Personally, I can't picture myself selling any of my phones for an upgrade. But I would buy an old iPhone model over anything if I had to.
你提出了一个合理的观点。就我个人而言，我无法想象自己会为了升级而出售我的手机。但如果我必须这样做，我宁愿买一款旧的iPhone。
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you raise a valid point. Personally, I can't picture myself selling any of my phones for an upgrade. But I would buy an old iPhone model over anything if I had to.
你提出了一个合理的观点。就我个人而言，我无法想象自己会为了升级而出售我的手机。但如果我必须这样做，我宁愿买一款旧的iPhone。
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@ehsansiam3123
When we see someone with an iphone, specially older ones bought with extra money paid, we automatically assume the person is a bit dumb and bit of a showoff.
当我们看到某人拥有iPhone，特别是那些花额外的钱购买的旧款，我们会自动认为这个人有点傻，并且有点炫耀。
When we see someone with an iphone, specially older ones bought with extra money paid, we automatically assume the person is a bit dumb and bit of a showoff.
当我们看到某人拥有iPhone，特别是那些花额外的钱购买的旧款，我们会自动认为这个人有点傻，并且有点炫耀。
@kongwee1978
My huawei last four year at only $200. : )
我的华为手机只花了200美元，使用了四年。
My huawei last four year at only $200. : )
我的华为手机只花了200美元，使用了四年。
@RichGems
that’s means you can’t afford iPhone. Let’s be honest rich people, celebrities and people with are all using iPhone, even celebrities indorse Huawie are using iPhone.
这说明你买不起iPhone。老实说，富人、名人和成功人士都在使用iPhone，甚至代言华为的明星也在用iPhone。
that’s means you can’t afford iPhone. Let’s be honest rich people, celebrities and people with are all using iPhone, even celebrities indorse Huawie are using iPhone.
这说明你买不起iPhone。老实说，富人、名人和成功人士都在使用iPhone，甚至代言华为的明星也在用iPhone。
@Otte.Junior
i think it's option that people choose. Perhaps they don't need new phone, or simply because they don't have enough money. I heard some people in India still bought Iphone 6. Food, water, etc are top priorities. Phone can wait tho.
我认为这是一种选择。也许他们并不需要新手机，或者根本没有足够的钱。我听说一些人在印度仍然购买iPhone 6。食物、水等才是最重要的。手机可以稍等。
i think it's option that people choose. Perhaps they don't need new phone, or simply because they don't have enough money. I heard some people in India still bought Iphone 6. Food, water, etc are top priorities. Phone can wait tho.
我认为这是一种选择。也许他们并不需要新手机，或者根本没有足够的钱。我听说一些人在印度仍然购买iPhone 6。食物、水等才是最重要的。手机可以稍等。
@Freep-m2l
No fingerprint sensor, no seperate volume for ringer and alarm or volume? Automatically highlights words so f ing annoying. iphones have the worst keyboard implementation. Apple the real dictator.
没有指纹传感器，没有单独的铃声和闹钟音量？自动高亮单词真是烦人。iPhone的键盘实现是最差的。苹果真是个独裁者。
No fingerprint sensor, no seperate volume for ringer and alarm or volume? Automatically highlights words so f ing annoying. iphones have the worst keyboard implementation. Apple the real dictator.
没有指纹传感器，没有单独的铃声和闹钟音量？自动高亮单词真是烦人。iPhone的键盘实现是最差的。苹果真是个独裁者。
@critique7767
I tried all only apple atlast them all. Samsung huawei oppo etc etc. expensive but not easy broke
我尝试了所有品牌，最后还是选择了苹果。三星、华为、OPPO等，虽然贵但不容易坏。
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I tried all only apple atlast them all. Samsung huawei oppo etc etc. expensive but not easy broke
我尝试了所有品牌，最后还是选择了苹果。三星、华为、OPPO等，虽然贵但不容易坏。
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@babosing
I bought google pixel 8 last year, my old iphone 12 is still better. I am having difficulty selling my pixel, even at half the price, where iphone is very easy to sell.
我去年买了谷歌Pixel 8，但我的旧iPhone 12依然更好。我很难出售我的Pixel，哪怕是以半价，而iPhone则非常容易出售。
I bought google pixel 8 last year, my old iphone 12 is still better. I am having difficulty selling my pixel, even at half the price, where iphone is very easy to sell.
我去年买了谷歌Pixel 8，但我的旧iPhone 12依然更好。我很难出售我的Pixel，哪怕是以半价，而iPhone则非常容易出售。
@mikabu
For your Information, especially for those who suggest to buy iphone from Singapore, Malaysia, or any country.. If Indonesian people buy mobile phones from abroad, their mobile phones will not be able to be used in Indonesia because their mobile phones will not get any provider signal. unless they register their IMEI and pay taxes which are not cheap. This regulation has been in effect since 5 years ago. That is why you will not find Indonesians in iphone stores in Singapore
提醒一下，特别是那些建议从新加坡、马来西亚或任何国家购买iPhone的人……如果印尼人从国外购买手机，他们的手机在印尼是无法使用的，因为手机无法获取任何网络信号，除非他们注册IMEI并缴纳不便宜的税。这项规定自五年前就已经实施了。这就是为什么你在新加坡的iPhone商店里找不到印尼人。
For your Information, especially for those who suggest to buy iphone from Singapore, Malaysia, or any country.. If Indonesian people buy mobile phones from abroad, their mobile phones will not be able to be used in Indonesia because their mobile phones will not get any provider signal. unless they register their IMEI and pay taxes which are not cheap. This regulation has been in effect since 5 years ago. That is why you will not find Indonesians in iphone stores in Singapore
提醒一下，特别是那些建议从新加坡、马来西亚或任何国家购买iPhone的人……如果印尼人从国外购买手机，他们的手机在印尼是无法使用的，因为手机无法获取任何网络信号，除非他们注册IMEI并缴纳不便宜的税。这项规定自五年前就已经实施了。这就是为什么你在新加坡的iPhone商店里找不到印尼人。
@brokenomad
if they can afford iphone 16 they can afford to pay the tax.
如果他们能负担得起iPhone 16，他们就能承担税费。
if they can afford iphone 16 they can afford to pay the tax.
如果他们能负担得起iPhone 16，他们就能承担税费。
@zerumkill228
teknisi HANDPONE hanya tersenyum melihat ini dalam hatinya berkata "rupanya diluar sana belum banyak yg tau apa yg biasa kita lakukan"
手机技术人员看到这一幕只会微笑，心里想着：“原来外面的人还不知道我们平时做的事情。”
teknisi HANDPONE hanya tersenyum melihat ini dalam hatinya berkata "rupanya diluar sana belum banyak yg tau apa yg biasa kita lakukan"
手机技术人员看到这一幕只会微笑，心里想着：“原来外面的人还不知道我们平时做的事情。”
@joMan1060
the taxes is very expensive, almost 20%.. Anyway, only few people that think its worth it.... and Indonesia still benefited from the taxes. So Indonesian govt also dont mind if you buy in singapore hahhaa
税费非常贵，几乎要20%……不过，只有少数人认为这值得……而且印尼仍然从中获益。所以印尼政府也不介意你在新加坡购买，哈哈。
the taxes is very expensive, almost 20%.. Anyway, only few people that think its worth it.... and Indonesia still benefited from the taxes. So Indonesian govt also dont mind if you buy in singapore hahhaa
税费非常贵，几乎要20%……不过，只有少数人认为这值得……而且印尼仍然从中获益。所以印尼政府也不介意你在新加坡购买，哈哈。
@joMan1060
ya bagus, berarti ada pemasukan juga kepada ekonomi Indonesia... Negara dapat pajak, Teknisi handpone dapat pendapatan juga。
是的，这很好，这意味着印尼经济也有收入……国家获得税收，手机技术人员也能得到收入。
ya bagus, berarti ada pemasukan juga kepada ekonomi Indonesia... Negara dapat pajak, Teknisi handpone dapat pendapatan juga。
是的，这很好，这意味着印尼经济也有收入……国家获得税收，手机技术人员也能得到收入。
@GoodLookingGentlemen
who want to pay taxes? The richer the person, the bigger his refusal to pay taxes. That's just basic in every country.
谁想缴税？越富裕的人，越不愿意交税。这在任何国家都是基本情况。
who want to pay taxes? The richer the person, the bigger his refusal to pay taxes. That's just basic in every country.
谁想缴税？越富裕的人，越不愿意交税。这在任何国家都是基本情况。
@antihypocrisy8978
US brands ultimately fund Israel through US taxes.
美国品牌最终通过美国税收资助以色列。
US brands ultimately fund Israel through US taxes.
美国品牌最终通过美国税收资助以色列。
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