川普推出教育部候选人,假如他真的解散了教育部会怎样?
2024-12-10 不要可乐 3672
正文翻译

President-elect Donald Trump has vowed to dismantle the Department of Education and reverse Biden-era policies on transgender students and racial disparities. Trump has also signaled support for religions in schools, including prayer in the classroom. But why do Trump and other Republicans want to abolish the Department of Education and what would that look like?
Oklahoma schools superintendent Ryan Walters and former U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan weigh in on Trump’s education plan.

当选总统唐纳德·特朗普誓言要拆解教育部,并逆转拜登政府关于跨性别学生和种族差异的政策。特朗普还表示支持在学校中实行宗教教育,包括课堂祈祷。那么,为什么特朗普和其他共和党人想要废除教育部,这一切会是什么样子呢?
俄克拉荷马州学校总监瑞安·沃尔特斯(Ryan Walters)和前美国教育部长阿尔内·邓肯(Arne Duncan)就特朗普的教育计划发表了看法。

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@-lb1cj
I am not American, but I really cannot understand the logic of what this Republican is saying. He contradicts common sense by ignoring the fact that without funding from the DOE, poorer states will have fewer resources to strengthen their education systems. This means he is effectively taking away children's educational opportunities in places like Oklahoma, rather than offering parents more choices for education.

我不是美国人,但我真的无法理解这位共和党人的逻辑。他忽视了一个常识性事实——没有教育部的资金支持,贫困州将无法为加强教育系统提供足够的资源。这意味着他实际上是在剥夺像俄克拉荷马州这样的地方孩子们的教育机会,而不是为家长提供更多的教育选择。

@averytest5412
I'm a school bus driver, and i can tell you that teachers and school bus drivers dont think highly of parents. There are good parents out there, but most parents use the schools and buses for convenience even if they are stay at home parents. Parents need to be accountable, and teachers need more help. The school system is not helping teach the kids the best to their abilities. Plus, the administrators suck as well. Since i was a kid living in Portland, oregon, the school administrators always canceled school beyond the last minute for snow days, resulting in chaos. There's too many things too fix but needa to be done for the kids.

我是一个校车司机,我可以告诉你,老师和校车司机对家长的评价不高。虽然有些家长很好,但大多数家长只是把学校和校车当作方便的工具,即便他们是全职在家的父母。家长需要承担责任,老师也需要更多的帮助。学校系统没有尽最大努力去教孩子们。而且,管理员们也很糟糕。自从我还是住在俄勒冈州波特兰市的小孩时,学校的管理员总是临时取消雪天的上学安排,导致一片混乱。问题太多了,但为了孩子们,必须做些改进。

@Vevxo
Removing the requirement for students to take social science classes is one thing but I guess it gives students more choice. But to then force students to learn the Bible, pray in class, and learn Christian ideologies is very much hypocritical.

取消学生必须修读社会科学课程的要求是一回事,虽然这可能让学生有更多选择。但如果接着又强迫学生学习《圣经》,在课堂上祈祷,学习基督教理念,那就真的很虚伪了。

@chowfun1976
Of course the most vulnerable and marginalized people will be negatively affected by this.

当然,最脆弱和边缘化的群体将会受到负面影响。

@eileenluke9791
Not having the Bible or religious education is not what is failing these kids.

不让学生学习《圣经》或宗教教育并不是这些孩子失败的原因。

@joannemurphy1
I've just begun learning about value investing, and I've found that many good stocks are undervalued despite their intrinsic value. If you had $200,000 to create a strong investment portfolio, which stocks would you choose for better returns?

我刚开始学习价值投资,发现许多好股票尽管具有内在价值,但却被低估了。如果你有20万美元来创建一个强大的投资组合,你会选择哪些股票以获得更好的回报?

@swoog10
My brother has been fully blind since birth. I am worried about how this will affect the accommodations he NEEDS to receive for his learning.

我哥哥从出生起就完全失明。我很担心这会影响他在学习过程中所需要的特殊支持。

@jag61688
the dude with the second worst public schools in the country thinks its a good idea

这个国家教育水平倒数第二的人竟然认为这是个好主意。

@Humza_3.14
The department of education spends nothing compared to the department of War. If anything we need to dismantle the War budget. This country has its priorities upsidedown smh.

教育部的开支远远低于国防部。我们应该拆解国防预算。这个国家的优先事项完全颠倒了,真是让人失望。

@Steve33056
He is not weaponizing it. We spend the most money in the world on education and we are 37th out 45 nations in education. The department of education is a bloated nightmare where we are paying burocrats big money to move paper from desk A to desk B. The entire enducation system needs to be revamped and follow Japan's lead. We should teach kids about finance, investing, 401ks, starting their own businesses, computers,, how to have successfull marriages, and things that matter, how to raise families and teach people things that are releveant to today. The education system is 150 years old and what they teach does not work anymore.

他并没有将其武器化。我们在教育上的支出是世界上最多的,但在45个国家中,我们的教育排名第37。教育部是一个庞大的噩梦,我们花大笔钱给官僚,结果只是让他们把文件从A桌移动到B桌。整个教育体系需要彻底改革,应该效仿日本的做法。我们应该教孩子们金融、投资、401(k)计划、如何开设自己的公司、计算机技能、如何建立成功的婚姻,以及那些与当今社会相关的技能,如何抚养家庭,教人们一些有意义的东西。我们的教育系统已经有150年历史了,而它所教授的内容已经不再适应现代需求。

@de_stroyed
dude there's supposed to be a separation between church and state. trump wants to have church mingle with the state...
what if you don't believe in the same god or if you're an atheist. do you still have to pray? this is absurd.

伙计,政府和宗教应该是分开的。特朗普想要让教会与政府混在一起……如果你信仰的不是同一个神,或者你是无神论者,那你还需要祈祷吗?这太荒谬了。

@Bonkkered
You are putting Oklahoma education guy for commenting on this. The state which has one of the worst education in the nation? Then bring someone from Massachusetts which has the best education in the country to comment on the same issue for a fair assessment.

你请一个来自俄克拉荷马州的教育人士来评论这个问题。这个州的教育在全国排名倒数吗?那就请一个来自马萨诸塞州的人来评论,这里有美国最好的教育体系,这样才能公平评估问题。

@fantahannah3659
oklahoma pushing religion in schools makes me furious. A simple option is a minute of silence for kids to do their own prayer or religious activity and 34 states use it.

俄克拉荷马州在学校推行宗教教育让我很生气。一个简单的办法是给孩子们一分钟的沉默时间,让他们做自己的祷告或宗教活动,实际上有34个州已经在使用这种方式了。

@segalliongaming8925
If this guy wanted to buy Bibles for the classroom, he could have bought a set of hardcover study Bibles for $20 each. Instead, he uses taxpayer funds to buy $60 Trump bibles.

如果这个人真想为教室买圣经,他本可以以每本20美元的价格买一套硬皮圣经。但他却用了纳税人的钱买了60美元的特朗普版圣经。
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@michaelgaleazza4809
Having that version of the Bible in schools is even problematic for Christians who don't recognize the King James version since it omits crucial Books.

在学校使用这种版本的圣经,对那些不认同金王本圣经的基督徒来说也是个问题,因为它省略了重要的书卷。

@VictoriaWall-c8w
Our schools are in the sewer. We used to be #1 in the world. Turn it back to the states. Why have our schools declined so much? Old saying: Democracy thrives in an educated society and dies in an uneducated society. Enough said.

我们的学校已经沦为废墟。我们曾经是世界第一。该把教育还给各州。为什么我们的学校会衰退如此严重?有句老话:民主在受过教育的社会中繁荣,在没有教育的社会中灭亡。说得够清楚了。

@Monsuco
The Federal Department of Education is a bloated bureaucratic mess. It has over 4,100 employees not one of whom actually teaches a child. The largest thing the Federal Department of Education does is oversee the federal student loan program, a program that really ought to be entirely phased out since the federal student loan program is the direct reason why tuition is as high as it is. Title 9 & the Individuals with Disabilities in Education Act (IDEA) both predate the Federal Department of Education so there's basically no risks to girls or students with disabilities since those laws continue to exist minus the DoED.

联邦教育部是一个臃肿的官僚体系。它有超过4,100名员工,但没有一个是直接教孩子的。联邦教育部最大的事情就是监管联邦学生贷款计划,而这个计划应该彻底淘汰,因为它正是学费居高不下的直接原因。《第九条》以及《残疾人教育法案》(IDEA)都早于联邦教育部,因此即便没有教育部,这些法律仍然存在,女孩或残疾学生的权益没有风险。

@John-ms1sz
Keep an eye on life expectancy rankings in the world. The US is now about 50th. It was 13th in the 1950's but fell to 40th in 2019 and worse during Covid.

关注一下世界各国的预期寿命排名。美国现在大约排在第50位,1950年代曾排在第13位,2019年降至第40位,疫情期间情况更糟。

@SM-px8cc
they claim teachers are indoctrinating children, but turn around to make a video praying to god and trump?

他们声称教师在给孩子洗脑,却又转头拍视频祈祷上帝和特朗普?
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@ernestogerena7419
No problem. The only thing the department of education has to do is to show their results and show how valuable they are. However, if the only thing they have going for them is failure and a bloated system, while at the same time not offering a top notch education then they have a problem.

没问题。教育部唯一需要做的,就是展示他们的成果,证明他们的价值。然而,如果他们唯一的特点是失败和臃肿的系统,同时又没有提供一流的教育,那他们就有问题了。

@darbygregersen8370
Mr. Oklahoma Schools clearly doesn't see, or care, about his ableism and lack of understanding of people's abilities to support their child with disabilities and/or other needs, from his podium of privilege. Children with needs outside of "the norm" also deserve access to their education, all children deserve education

俄克拉荷马州学校的负责人显然没有看到,也不在乎他的偏见和对那些有特殊需求或其他需求的孩子的理解缺乏,他站在特权的讲台上。那些有特殊需求的孩子同样应当有接受教育的权利,所有孩子都值得接受教育。

@brb8829
Almost every US educational outcome has declined since the Department of Education was created. It's beyond time to get rid of it.

自从教育部成立以来,美国几乎所有的教育成果都在下降。现在是时候彻底废除它了。
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@Christopher-rx3el
Trump has made me embarrassed when people ask if I'm American while travelling.

特朗普让我感到尴尬,每当别人问我是不是美国人时,我都会觉得羞耻。

@TK-76054
Since the creation of the Department of Education, have children done better or worse in school? Kids graduating high school with a fourth grade level in math and reading is disgusting. Leave it to the states.

自从教育部成立以来,孩子们在学校的表现是更好还是更差?孩子们毕业时,数学和阅读水平仅停留在四年级,这是令人恶心的。应该把教育权交给各州。

@Patty-lb3sl
If we just go by maga supporters intelligence this country has no chance. If i had school age kids, i would home school

如果只看MAGA支持者的智力水平,这个国家根本没有希望。如果我有学龄孩子,我会选择在家教育。

@sukhmindervirk
I'm as pro-education as it gets, but what other pro-education advocates miss is how little the Department of Education actually does. Most, if not all, of the activities of the DOE can be delegated to states or abolished altogether.

我是一个支持教育的人,但其他支持教育的倡导者忽视了教育部实际上做了多少事。教育部的大部分活动,甚至所有活动,都可以交给各州,或者干脆废除掉。

@DragonKazooie89
The only way I would allow religion in school is using it to compare and contrast similarity themed stories in religion and mythology or how the main beliefs of various religions and myths shaped the history and culture of various countries and areas in the world.

我唯一会允许在学校中涉及宗教的方式,是用它来比较和对比宗教和神话中的主题相似故事,或者探讨各个宗教和神话的主要信仰如何塑造了世界各国和地区的历史和文化。

@gonzoteacher
Meanwhile, Oklahoma public schools rank towards the bottom in terms of performance on the National Assessment of Education Progress assessment

与此同时,俄克拉荷马州的公立学校在国家教育进步评估(NAEP)中的表现位居底部。

@manus21
at this point, I really don't care anymore. People will get, what they voted for. Their own fault.

现在我真的不在乎了。人们会得到他们投票选出的结果,这是他们自己的错。

@andricheli
Eliminating the Department of Education will decimate and in some cases eliminate educational opportunities for children with disabilities, health needs, and who live in high-poverty areas. We will go back to the era of many kids with disabilities being denied an education and their families services. This is reckless and will affect every state in the country. Private schools are NOT REQUIRED to serve children with disabilities. That's why public education is so important for those students.

废除教育部将摧毁甚至消除为有特殊需求、健康问题的孩子以及生活在贫困地区的孩子提供教育机会。我们将回到许多残障儿童被拒绝教育以及他们的家庭无法获得服务的时代。这是极其不负责任的,将影响全国每个州。私立学校并不要求为残障儿童提供服务,这就是公立教育对这些学生如此重要的原因。

@aaronwilley91
Definitely not taking any advice on education from Oklahoma.

绝对不会从俄克拉荷马州获得任何关于教育的建议。

@morganjo2002
Here we go again, making education in North America go from bad to worse when it gets decentralized - compare that with European countries like France where students across the country write their exams at exactly the same time every year - or England where one exam determines whether students go to grammar school or technical school - the exams and curricula are universal across each of those countries and their education systems are successful and not given to class or income barriers, unlike US and to a certain extent Canada.

我们又一次让北美的教育从糟糕变得更糟,当教育权力被分散时——与欧洲国家如法国相比,那里每年学生在同一时间参加考试——或者英国,那里一场考试决定学生是否能进入文法学校或技术学校——这些国家的考试和课程是全国统一的,而且教育体系成功且没有阶层或收入障碍,这与美国和在某种程度上与加拿大截然不同。

@Zanar1129
2:24 "There nobody who loves their child more or who cares more about their child than their mom and day" That mindset comes from someone who never seen a bad house hold. Or really from a poor household. Come on! I know most teachers do it not for the pain but because they care for the kids! School was like my second home. Yes my mom loved me more then my school would ever but my school took much better care then my mom did most of the time.

2:24 “没有人比父母更爱自己的孩子,关心自己的孩子。” 这种心态来自于那些从未见过糟糕家庭的人,或者说从未经历过贫困家庭的人。拜托!我知道大多数老师不是为了痛苦,而是因为他们关心孩子!学校就像我的第二个家。是的,我妈妈比学校更爱我,但大多数时候,学校比我妈妈照顾得更好。

kelvingates-b2y
The market's rise after Trump's win is surprising given the economic uncertainty. While some stocks, like AI-focused ones, look strong long-term, the volatility makes me cautious. Even Bitcoin is seeing a boost, but it's tough to predict where things are heading with inflation and interest rates. Staying cautious but watching for opportunities.

特朗普当选后股市的上涨令人惊讶,尽管经济前景不明。虽然一些股票,像是人工智能相关的,看起来长期来看很强劲,但市场的波动让我保持谨慎。甚至比特币也有了上涨,但考虑到通货膨胀和利率,很难预测未来走向。保持谨慎,但还是会关注机会。

@ChiloTarot
You all sit and complain about Trump but when we had Bernie Sanders, someone who actually spoke sense and had amazing ideas to repair the country, no one supported him. Ridiculous.

你们都在抱怨特朗普,但当我们有伯尼·桑德斯时——一个真正讲理、拥有修复国家的精彩想法的人——没人支持他。真是荒谬。

@juanaguirre3702
Am I the only one confused why the US secretary of education only has a bachelors degree? The principle of my local high school has a PhD..

难道只有我在困惑,为什么美国教育部长只有学士学位?我们当地高中的校长可是有博士学位的……

@Weebei
This segment is such a terrible example of legitimizing idiocy. Why is a featured speaker of the Trump initiative from the Oklahoma school system? It's like having a feature about how to build a super bowl winner and consulting the Cleveland Browns organization for expert advice on how to build a super bowl winner.

这个环节真是一个糟糕的例子,把愚昧合法化。为什么特朗普倡议的一个重要发言人来自俄克拉荷马州的学校系统?就像是关于如何打造超级碗冠军的特写,却去请克里夫兰布朗队来提供专家意见。

@angelig7782
i don't understand why certain people in power are enforcing religion into laws. what ever happened to church vs state? its in the constitution.

我不明白为什么某些掌权者把宗教强加到法律中。教会与国家之间的分离去哪儿了?这可是宪法里写的啊。

@SparkyFinch
As a former student with special needs, you guys convinced me we need to eliminate the DoE. I learned more on Youtube and Khan Academy than I did in school. All the things you listed are ways we are failing in the US

作为一个曾经有特殊需求的学生,你们让我相信我们应该废除教育部。我在YouTube和可汗学院学到的东西,比我在学校学到的多。你们列出的这些问题,都是美国教育失败的表现。

@MelSanschagrin
What you have to remember is that there are federal laws involved with the Education national organization. And the funding programs managed through that institution ensure equity across the board. But since King Trump is not only now above the law, he IS THE LAW, he will operate as he once said he would - he seriously stated that as president he could do whatever he wants ( just like a King )

你们要记住,教育国家组织涉及到联邦法律。通过该机构管理的资助项目确保了各方面的公平性。但既然特朗普先生不仅现在凌驾于法律之上,他就是法律,他会按照他曾说的那样行事——他曾明确表示作为总统,他可以做任何事情(就像一个国王)。

@geraldphipps1435
Millions of Americans who owe student loan money to the Department of Education will NO LONGER HAVE TO PAY a non-existent department for an education that should have been freely accessible to the children of all the parents who paid taxes to a government that took way more than it ever GAVE.

数百万欠教育部学生贷款的美国人,将不再需要为一个不存在的部门支付教育费用,而这些教育本应是免费的,应该对所有为政府缴税的家长的孩子开放,而政府收走的税款远远超过它所提供的。

@KK-pm7ud
Once Duncan said the word "equity," I knew it was all BS. The bottom line is when the federal government gives you money you must spend, you are more likely to waste it. Let the states figure it out. It's not like education is a complex new technology that requires consolidated investment. Lets the states innovate and tailor programs to their needs. And save the additional administrative burden at both the state and federal level for one of the other hundreds of wasted government organizations.

一旦Duncan说出“公平”这个词,我就知道这一切都是胡扯。归根结底,当联邦政府给你钱并要求你花掉时,你更有可能浪费它。让各州来解决问题。教育并不是一种需要集中投资的复杂新技术。让各州去创新并量身定制适合他们需求的项目,省去州和联邦层面的额外行政负担,让其他无用的政府机构去承担这些。
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@TheDaneblake
America spends more money per child than any other country in the world. We have one of the worst public education in the world. These are undisputed facts. The American public school system if horrible and everyone knows this. Tens of millions of children can’t read or do addition on and on even as seniors in high school. The money should follow the child to whatever school the parents wish to send their child. Local run, runs best.

美国每个孩子的教育花费比世界上任何国家都多,但我们却有世界上最差的公共教育系统。这些是无可争议的事实。美国的公立学校系统糟糕,大家都知道这一点。数千万孩子连读书或加法都做不好,直到高中毕业都这样。钱应该跟随孩子走,家长应该有选择把孩子送到任何学校的权利。由地方管理的教育最好。

@BusyBodyVisa
They didn't even say the resaon why conservatives want DepED gone and how much money it wastes and is it a giveaway to teacher's unxs

他们甚至没有说明保守派想要废除教育部的原因,也没有提到它浪费了多少钱,是否只是对教师工会的赠与。

@melcryarfineart
They have failed to improve education in any measurable way. Let the states decide how they want to educate their children. It's not that hard.

他们没有以任何可衡量的方式改善教育。让各州决定如何教育他们的孩子,问题不大。

@romulus9990
It should be noted that Oklahoma ranks near the bottom in terms of educational attainment, and quality of public education
Edit: also Oklahoma ranks 47th in the unx for average SAT scores. Sitting 99 points below the national average.

需要注意的是,俄克拉荷马州在教育水平和公立教育质量方面排名靠后。
编辑:另外,俄克拉荷马州在全美SAT平均分中排名第47,低于全国平均分99分。

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@bowenjudd1028
Problem that people don't really realize is that students may pray in their classes, they aren't prohibited from that.
What is being talked about is forcing all students to pray to the Christian god.

人们没有真正意识到的问题是,学生在课堂上可以祈祷,他们并没有被禁止这样做。
真正被讨论的是强迫所有学生都向基督教之神祈祷。

@traceler
Praying, meditation, marinading in feelings of gratitude, love and rightness in school is better than harboring feelings of division, competition and materialistic beliefs.

在学校里祈祷、冥想、浸泡在感恩、爱和正确感的情绪中,比怀有分裂、竞争和物质主义信念要好得多。

@robertmatthews3909
The government should have ZERO say in how a parent chooses what their child learns.

政府不应干涉家长选择孩子学习内容的权利。

@RayPointerChannel
So, if all of those departments are eliminated, what are those buildings going to be used for? They are owned by the Federal government. Will the government rent them out? Will that collected rent be applied to the debt? We have not heard this or any specific details of their plans other than just elimination.

如果这些部门被取消了,那些建筑物将用来做什么?它们是联邦政府所有的。政府会把它们租出去吗?收取的租金会用于偿还债务吗?我们没有听到任何关于他们计划的具体细节,除了简单的取消而已。

@ThePequenocristo
What does Walters think parents will do with government money when there is no private school to send their kids to? What if their kid needs special education resources? And if private schools say no to their kid?

沃尔特斯认为父母如果没有私立学校可供选择,会如何使用政府的钱呢?如果孩子需要特殊教育资源怎么办?如果私立学校拒绝接收他们的孩子怎么办?

@SlixyFromHell.4
Here in OK we have been trying non stop to throw him out of office (with majority support) but some rogue legislature or judge keeps delaying his removal

在俄克拉荷马州,我们一直在努力将他赶下台(得到了大多数人的支持),但是一些叛逆的立法者或法官总是拖延他的下台。
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@zaraxis3519
We had education before the department of education. The education system has progressively gotten worse since the centralization of authority over education in the 70s with the beginning of this department. Take a good look at OSPI state test scores starting in the 90s to now, tell me what you see. What I see is schools at first meeting and exceeding expectations and standards on tests, then slowly but surely starting in 2005s ish the schools went from exceeding to meeting. After the 08 recession and from then onward (my times may be a bit skewed but the data is overall accurate) more and more schools kept failing state tests and not meeting standards.

在教育部成立之前我们就有教育。自从70年代教育权力集中化以来,教育系统逐渐变得更糟。看看1990年代到现在华盛顿州公共教育系统的OSPI州测试成绩,你会看到什么?我看到的是,学校最初能达到并超过测试标准,但从2005年左右开始,学校的成绩从超标变为达标。2008年经济衰退后,越来越多的学校开始未能通过州级测试,未能达到标准。

@upsd
It's very true. There is a lot of political bias in education today. Far more than people realize

这确实很真实。今天的教育中有很多政治偏见,远比人们意识到的要严重。

@mustang8206
As an Oklahoman I want to make it clear that even Republican leaders in the state think Ryan Walters is too extreme and he's also abusing the state budget

作为一名俄克拉荷马州人,我想明确表示,甚至州内的共和党领导人也认为瑞安·沃尔特斯太过极端,他还在滥用州预算。

@chrisdaykin3899
I think someone needs to go after the billionaires who are forcing this bs on America

我认为有人需要去追究那些强迫美国接受这些胡说八道的亿万富翁们。

@millerrepin4452
A Trump bible is heresy. To even sell a bible with his name on it should be more controversial.

特朗普圣经是异端。甚至卖一本印有他名字的圣经也应该更具争议。
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@ryan623t
Funny thing is that destroying the department the education would mostly hurt the states that VOTED for him as they don’t have the funds to support education.

有趣的是,摧毁教育部最会伤害那些投票支持他(的州),因为他们没有足够的资金来支持教育。

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