对于格陵兰事件，一个美国大兵公开呼吁：“我，作为一名自豪的美国军队成员，不会服从攻击我们盟友的非法命令。”然后评论区就吵翻了
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“I, a proud member of the U.S. military, won’t obey illegal orders to attack our allies.”
“我，作为一名自豪的美国军队成员，不会服从攻击我们盟友的非法命令。”
“I, a proud member of the U.S. military, won’t obey illegal orders to attack our allies.”
“我，作为一名自豪的美国军队成员，不会服从攻击我们盟友的非法命令。”
Knowing your duties is key — and executing illegal orders isn’t one of them.
了解自己的职责至关重要——而执行非法命令绝不是其中之一。
了解自己的职责至关重要——而执行非法命令绝不是其中之一。
Whether you’re conservative, liberal, or somewhere in between, this statement addresses an urgent issue that affects us all. It applies equally across party lines.
无论你是保守派、自由派，还是介于两者之间，这一声明都涉及一个紧迫的问题，影响着我们每一个人。它在党派之间具有同等的适用性。
无论你是保守派、自由派，还是介于两者之间，这一声明都涉及一个紧迫的问题，影响着我们每一个人。它在党派之间具有同等的适用性。
None of the following is intended to undermine the strength or integrity of the U.S. Armed Forces or diminish the powers of the president. Quite the opposite: it is a warning to prevent violations of the U.S. Constitution that would lead to devastating consequences — not only for the nation as a whole and the armed forces as an institution, but also for individual military members who partake in illegal actions.
以下内容绝非意在削弱美国武装部队的力量或诚信，也不是要削弱总统的权力。恰恰相反：这是一个警告，旨在防止违反美国宪法的行为，这些行为将导致灾难性的后果——不仅对国家整体和作为一个机构的武装部队，而且对那些参与非法行动的个别军人来说，也是极为严重的后果。
以下内容绝非意在削弱美国武装部队的力量或诚信，也不是要削弱总统的权力。恰恰相反：这是一个警告，旨在防止违反美国宪法的行为，这些行为将导致灾难性的后果——不仅对国家整体和作为一个机构的武装部队，而且对那些参与非法行动的个别军人来说，也是极为严重的后果。
President-elect Donald Trump has hinted at expanding the United States by force. His remarks have focused on the potential annexation of Canada, the Panama Canal, and Greenland. Although there has been no commitment to using military force in any of these cases so far, we should be prepared for any possible outcomes.
当选总统唐纳德·特朗普曾暗示通过武力扩展美国。他的言论集中在可能吞并加拿大、巴拿马运河和格陵兰岛。尽管到目前为止，他并未承诺在这些情况下使用军事力量，但我们应该为任何可能的结果做好准备。
当选总统唐纳德·特朗普曾暗示通过武力扩展美国。他的言论集中在可能吞并加拿大、巴拿马运河和格陵兰岛。尽管到目前为止，他并未承诺在这些情况下使用军事力量，但我们应该为任何可能的结果做好准备。
Let me be absolutely clear: Any military assault on these sovereign territories would not only betray the trust of long-time allies and shatter the credibility of the United States as a global leader but also constitute a grave violation of international law and the U.S. Constitution.
让我明确表示：对这些主权领土的任何军事攻击，不仅会背叛长期盟友的信任，摧毁美国作为全球领导者的信誉，还将构成对国际法和美国宪法的严重侵犯。
让我明确表示：对这些主权领土的任何军事攻击，不仅会背叛长期盟友的信任，摧毁美国作为全球领导者的信誉，还将构成对国际法和美国宪法的严重侵犯。
While obeying orders is a cornerstone of military discipline and effectiveness, the primary obligation of service members is not to obey commands, but to obey the law. It is their duty to refuse illegal orders.
服从命令是军事纪律和效能的基石，但军人的首要责任不是服从命令，而是服从法律。拒绝非法命令是他们的义务。
服从命令是军事纪律和效能的基石，但军人的首要责任不是服从命令，而是服从法律。拒绝非法命令是他们的义务。
All U.S. military members have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution. This oath is not just a verbal commitment — it is a deep moral and legal obligation to the American people. For failing to uphold their oath and involvement in war crimes, members of the military can be individually prosecuted and severely punished by law, even when the instructions came from the president.
所有美国军人都宣誓保护宪法。这誓言不仅仅是口头承诺——它是对美国人民的深刻道德和法律义务。如果军人未能履行誓言并参与战争罪行，他们可以单独被起诉，并依法受到严厉惩罚，即使这些指令来自总统。
所有美国军人都宣誓保护宪法。这誓言不仅仅是口头承诺——它是对美国人民的深刻道德和法律义务。如果军人未能履行誓言并参与战争罪行，他们可以单独被起诉，并依法受到严厉惩罚，即使这些指令来自总统。
The refusal to follow an illegal order to invade allied territory is not a betrayal of a military member’s duties. On the contrary, it is the highest expression of those duties. Upholding the rule of law is not an act of rebellion. It is an act of loyalty to the principles that form the foundation of honorable military service.
拒绝执行侵略盟友领土的非法命令，并不是背叛军人职责。相反，它是对这些职责的最高表达。维护法治并不是叛乱行为，而是对构成光荣军人服务基础的原则的忠诚表现。
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拒绝执行侵略盟友领土的非法命令，并不是背叛军人职责。相反，它是对这些职责的最高表达。维护法治并不是叛乱行为，而是对构成光荣军人服务基础的原则的忠诚表现。
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History is rife with examples of war crimes committed by those who blindly followed illegal orders. Many of those involved have faced prosecution for failing to question or resist their instructions. Unquestioned obedience to illegal orders is not loyalty; it is complicity.
历史上充斥着那些盲目服从非法命令而犯下战争罪行的例子。许多参与者因未能质疑或抵制这些指令而面临起诉。对非法命令的盲目服从不是忠诚，而是同谋。
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历史上充斥着那些盲目服从非法命令而犯下战争罪行的例子。许多参与者因未能质疑或抵制这些指令而面临起诉。对非法命令的盲目服从不是忠诚，而是同谋。
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If not in your immediate circle, there are likely military members in your wider network. Please share this article so they don’t miss it. This urgent message gains power when it's read and understood by many.
如果在你的直接圈子里没有，那么在你更广泛的网络中，很可能有军人。请分享这篇文章，确保他们不会错过。这一紧急信息在被更多人阅读和理解时，会变得更有力量。
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如果在你的直接圈子里没有，那么在你更广泛的网络中，很可能有军人。请分享这篇文章，确保他们不会错过。这一紧急信息在被更多人阅读和理解时，会变得更有力量。
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Self-commitment to refuse illegal orders
自我承诺拒绝非法命令
自我承诺拒绝非法命令
In the face of Trump’s expansion plans, I propose a list of five self-commitments for U.S. service members, designed to protect them from undue manipulation and from inadvertently breaking the law:
面对特朗普的扩张计划，我提出了一份针对美国军人的五项自我承诺清单，旨在保护他们免受不当操纵以及避免无意中违法：
面对特朗普的扩张计划，我提出了一份针对美国军人的五项自我承诺清单，旨在保护他们免受不当操纵以及避免无意中违法：
1) I will think for myself
I am not a brainless machine. I am capable of critical thinking and know my rights and responsibilities. I recognize that the American people don’t want a military that blindly obeys illegal orders, but one that respects and protects the U.S. Constitution. Some of the worst atrocities in history happened because people mindlessly followed orders, and we still ask how such things were possible. As service members, we are not just instruments of war; we are also guardians of justice. It is our duty to ensure that our actions reflect the values we have sworn to defend.
1 我会独立思考
我不是一台没有思考能力的机器。我具备批判性思维，了解自己的权利与责任。我认识到，美国人民不希望有一个盲目服从非法命令的军队，而是希望有一个尊重并保护美国宪法的军队。历史上一些最严重的暴行发生在那些人们毫无思考地执行命令的时候，我们至今还在反思这些事情为何会发生。作为军人，我们不仅仅是战争的工具；我们还是正义的守护者。确保我们的行为反映我们誓言捍卫的价值观，是我们的责任。
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I am not a brainless machine. I am capable of critical thinking and know my rights and responsibilities. I recognize that the American people don’t want a military that blindly obeys illegal orders, but one that respects and protects the U.S. Constitution. Some of the worst atrocities in history happened because people mindlessly followed orders, and we still ask how such things were possible. As service members, we are not just instruments of war; we are also guardians of justice. It is our duty to ensure that our actions reflect the values we have sworn to defend.
1 我会独立思考
我不是一台没有思考能力的机器。我具备批判性思维，了解自己的权利与责任。我认识到，美国人民不希望有一个盲目服从非法命令的军队，而是希望有一个尊重并保护美国宪法的军队。历史上一些最严重的暴行发生在那些人们毫无思考地执行命令的时候，我们至今还在反思这些事情为何会发生。作为军人，我们不仅仅是战争的工具；我们还是正义的守护者。确保我们的行为反映我们誓言捍卫的价值观，是我们的责任。
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2) I recognize the legal implications of complicity
Being a member of the military doesn’t put me above the law. Following an order to invade an allied nation that hasn’t attacked us would make me complicit in a crime of aggression — a violation not only of human decency, but of both national and international law. My duty is to uphold the law, not break it. No one, regardless of their rank, can demand that I violate this duty. I know, and will warn colleagues who may not be aware, that we can individually be sued, prosecuted, and severely punished for following orders that are patently illegal
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2)我认识到同谋的法律后果
成为军人并不意味着我凌驾于法律之上。服从入侵一个未对我们发动攻击的盟国的命令，会使我成为侵略罪的共犯——这不仅是对人类尊严的侵犯，也是对国家和国际法的违反。我的职责是维护法律，而不是破坏它。无论是谁，哪怕是高级军官，都不能要求我违反这一职责。我清楚地知道，并会警告那些可能没有意识到这一点的同事，我们每个人都可能因服从明显非法的命令而被单独起诉、追究责任，并受到严厉惩罚。
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Being a member of the military doesn’t put me above the law. Following an order to invade an allied nation that hasn’t attacked us would make me complicit in a crime of aggression — a violation not only of human decency, but of both national and international law. My duty is to uphold the law, not break it. No one, regardless of their rank, can demand that I violate this duty. I know, and will warn colleagues who may not be aware, that we can individually be sued, prosecuted, and severely punished for following orders that are patently illegal
.
2)我认识到同谋的法律后果
成为军人并不意味着我凌驾于法律之上。服从入侵一个未对我们发动攻击的盟国的命令，会使我成为侵略罪的共犯——这不仅是对人类尊严的侵犯，也是对国家和国际法的违反。我的职责是维护法律，而不是破坏它。无论是谁，哪怕是高级军官，都不能要求我违反这一职责。我清楚地知道，并会警告那些可能没有意识到这一点的同事，我们每个人都可能因服从明显非法的命令而被单独起诉、追究责任，并受到严厉惩罚。
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3) I will resist coercion and manipulation
I commit to standing strong, refusing to be bullied, coerced, or manipulated into the wrong direction. No look, tone, or intimidation will deter me from resolutely standing on the right side of history and exercising my duty to reject actions that violate the U.S. Constitution and international law. I will not allow myself to be used as a tool for injustice or illegal wars. The more chaotic the world becomes, the more I recognize the importance of keeping a clear mind, staying well-informed, and holding true to my constitutional oath, unclouded by manipulation or fear.
3)我将抵制胁迫和操控
我承诺坚定立场，拒绝被欺凌、胁迫或操控，走向错误的方向。任何眼神、语气或威胁都不会让我动摇，我将坚定地站在历史的正确一方，履行我的责任，拒绝那些违反美国宪法和国际法的行为。我不会允许自己成为不公正或非法战争的工具。世界变得愈加混乱，我愈加认识到保持清晰头脑、充分了解情况、并坚守宪法誓言的重要性，决不让操控或恐惧模糊我的判断。
I commit to standing strong, refusing to be bullied, coerced, or manipulated into the wrong direction. No look, tone, or intimidation will deter me from resolutely standing on the right side of history and exercising my duty to reject actions that violate the U.S. Constitution and international law. I will not allow myself to be used as a tool for injustice or illegal wars. The more chaotic the world becomes, the more I recognize the importance of keeping a clear mind, staying well-informed, and holding true to my constitutional oath, unclouded by manipulation or fear.
3)我将抵制胁迫和操控
我承诺坚定立场，拒绝被欺凌、胁迫或操控，走向错误的方向。任何眼神、语气或威胁都不会让我动摇，我将坚定地站在历史的正确一方，履行我的责任，拒绝那些违反美国宪法和国际法的行为。我不会允许自己成为不公正或非法战争的工具。世界变得愈加混乱，我愈加认识到保持清晰头脑、充分了解情况、并坚守宪法誓言的重要性，决不让操控或恐惧模糊我的判断。
4) I will defend our nation’s interests
I recognize that attacking peaceful allies would not only be a crime, it would also be strategically disastrous for our country. Alienating the Western world and turning the global community against us would leave us isolated in an era of cyberattacks and hybrid warfare, where strong partnerships are more vital than ever. It could disrupt global trade, trigger catastrophic economic fallout, force partners to seek new ties, and cripple our global influence and credibility, with no quick path to recovery.
4)我将捍卫国家利益
我认识到，攻击和平的盟国不仅是一种犯罪行为，也将对我们的国家造成战略性灾难。疏远西方世界，并使全球共同体反对我们，将使我们在网络攻击和混合战争的时代中孤立无援，而在这个时代，强大的伙伴关系比以往任何时候都更加重要。这可能会扰乱全球贸易，导致灾难性的经济后果，迫使伙伴寻求新的联盟，削弱我们的全球影响力和信誉，而且没有快速的恢复途径。
I recognize that attacking peaceful allies would not only be a crime, it would also be strategically disastrous for our country. Alienating the Western world and turning the global community against us would leave us isolated in an era of cyberattacks and hybrid warfare, where strong partnerships are more vital than ever. It could disrupt global trade, trigger catastrophic economic fallout, force partners to seek new ties, and cripple our global influence and credibility, with no quick path to recovery.
4)我将捍卫国家利益
我认识到，攻击和平的盟国不仅是一种犯罪行为，也将对我们的国家造成战略性灾难。疏远西方世界，并使全球共同体反对我们，将使我们在网络攻击和混合战争的时代中孤立无援，而在这个时代，强大的伙伴关系比以往任何时候都更加重要。这可能会扰乱全球贸易，导致灾难性的经济后果，迫使伙伴寻求新的联盟，削弱我们的全球影响力和信誉，而且没有快速的恢复途径。
5) I trust that I won’t be alone in defending the Constitution
I know that I’m not alone in keeping allegiance to my oath, but rather part of the overwhelming majority. No single person I know in our armed forces joined the service with the intention of attacking our allies. We are here to protect the U.S. Constitution and the sovereignty of our country. We made it our lives’ mission to defend freedom, democracy, and the rule of law, not to betray or fight against these founding principles of our nation. I will communicate with my trusted colleagues to ensure we share a common understanding that unprovoked military aggression against allied countries is unjustified and illegal.
5)我相信在捍卫宪法时，我不会孤单
我知道，我在坚守誓言时并不孤单，而是与绝大多数人站在一起。我认识的军人中没有一个人是怀着攻击我们盟友的意图加入军队的。我们在这里是为了保护美国宪法和我们国家的主权。我们将捍卫自由、民主和法治作为终生的使命，而不是背叛或反对这些构成我们国家根基的原则。我将与我信任的同僚沟通，确保我们达成共识，认为对盟国进行无端军事侵略是不正当且非法的。
I know that I’m not alone in keeping allegiance to my oath, but rather part of the overwhelming majority. No single person I know in our armed forces joined the service with the intention of attacking our allies. We are here to protect the U.S. Constitution and the sovereignty of our country. We made it our lives’ mission to defend freedom, democracy, and the rule of law, not to betray or fight against these founding principles of our nation. I will communicate with my trusted colleagues to ensure we share a common understanding that unprovoked military aggression against allied countries is unjustified and illegal.
5)我相信在捍卫宪法时，我不会孤单
我知道，我在坚守誓言时并不孤单，而是与绝大多数人站在一起。我认识的军人中没有一个人是怀着攻击我们盟友的意图加入军队的。我们在这里是为了保护美国宪法和我们国家的主权。我们将捍卫自由、民主和法治作为终生的使命，而不是背叛或反对这些构成我们国家根基的原则。我将与我信任的同僚沟通，确保我们达成共识，认为对盟国进行无端军事侵略是不正当且非法的。
I, a proud member of the U.S. military, won’t obey illegal orders to attack our allies. My actions are — and will remain — rooted in justice and honor. I will serve my country, but I will never abandon the principles that make it worth serving.
我，作为美国军队的一员，决不会服从攻击我们盟友的非法命令。我的行为始终 — 并将继续 — 根植于正义与荣耀。我将为我的国家服务，但我永远不会背弃那些使国家值得为之服务的原则。
我，作为美国军队的一员，决不会服从攻击我们盟友的非法命令。我的行为始终 — 并将继续 — 根植于正义与荣耀。我将为我的国家服务，但我永远不会背弃那些使国家值得为之服务的原则。
Pala Najana Jan 14, 2025
Pala Najana 2025 年 1 月 14 日 （注：作者名Pala Najana，他发了很多奇怪的言论，在他的个人空间可以看出他是一位动物保护主义和素食主义者。）
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Pala Najana 2025 年 1 月 14 日 （注：作者名Pala Najana，他发了很多奇怪的言论，在他的个人空间可以看出他是一位动物保护主义和素食主义者。）
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Jboza
I don’t think you have anything to worry about. The entire act of sensationalism is a screen for the early approvals of Project 2025 while everyone is distracted with Greenland, Canada, and Panama
我认为你没有什么好担心的。整个夸大其词的行为只是为2025计划的早期批准提供掩护，而大家都被格陵兰、加拿大和巴拿马分散了注意力。
I don’t think you have anything to worry about. The entire act of sensationalism is a screen for the early approvals of Project 2025 while everyone is distracted with Greenland, Canada, and Panama
我认为你没有什么好担心的。整个夸大其词的行为只是为2025计划的早期批准提供掩护，而大家都被格陵兰、加拿大和巴拿马分散了注意力。
Sweet_Ambassador_585
Even if it wasn’t, Trump is gonna get Greenland for ya with same certainty as there’s gonna be a wall paid by Mexico.
But don’t worry maga, you can blame Hillary for yet another Trump failure for your heart’s content.
即便不是，特朗普也会像有墨西哥为墙付钱那样，毫无疑问地为你拿下格陵兰。
但别担心，MAGA们，你们可以尽情地把特朗普的失败归咎于希拉里，随心所欲。
Even if it wasn’t, Trump is gonna get Greenland for ya with same certainty as there’s gonna be a wall paid by Mexico.
But don’t worry maga, you can blame Hillary for yet another Trump failure for your heart’s content.
即便不是，特朗普也会像有墨西哥为墙付钱那样，毫无疑问地为你拿下格陵兰。
但别担心，MAGA们，你们可以尽情地把特朗普的失败归咎于希拉里，随心所欲。
monopolyqueen
We really need to stop acting like it’s just a distraction. We’ve been here before, crazy leaders say crazy shit, people around them dismiss the crazy shit as just trash talk, and then there’s a holocaust happening and a world war and everything the crazy leader said he was going to do is happening. So, let’s not just dismiss his crazy talk as crazy talk, he talks crazy because he is crazy, but he is perfectly capable of attempting to bring his boasts to fruition
我们真的需要停止把这当作一种消遣。我们以前也经历过这种情况，疯狂的领导人说些疯狂的话，他们身边的人把这些话当作废话不当回事，然后大屠杀发生了，世界大战爆发了，那些疯狂的领导人说过的每句话都变成了现实。所以，我们不要只是把他的疯狂言论当作空话，他说话疯狂是因为他疯了，但他完全有能力试图实现他的吹嘘。
We really need to stop acting like it’s just a distraction. We’ve been here before, crazy leaders say crazy shit, people around them dismiss the crazy shit as just trash talk, and then there’s a holocaust happening and a world war and everything the crazy leader said he was going to do is happening. So, let’s not just dismiss his crazy talk as crazy talk, he talks crazy because he is crazy, but he is perfectly capable of attempting to bring his boasts to fruition
我们真的需要停止把这当作一种消遣。我们以前也经历过这种情况，疯狂的领导人说些疯狂的话，他们身边的人把这些话当作废话不当回事，然后大屠杀发生了，世界大战爆发了，那些疯狂的领导人说过的每句话都变成了现实。所以，我们不要只是把他的疯狂言论当作空话，他说话疯狂是因为他疯了，但他完全有能力试图实现他的吹嘘。
BicycleAlternative93
Totally agree. This all for show. So that what he gets what he wants (more bases) he can argue that his strongman tactics worked. And his base will applaud him loudly.
The reality is that Denmark doesn’t have a material military presence there, and are supporters of greater independence. The reality is also that I can’t imagine a universe where an (informed) Greenlander wants to be part of the US. And the other reality is that the people of Denmark don’t really care much about what Greenland chooses to do. It’s their choice. Move on. That’s fine. Stay with us - cool. Go independent - fine. Become a US state - good luck with that!
BicycleAlternative93
完全同意。这一切都是为了表演。为了让他得到自己想要的东西（更多军事基地），他可以辩称自己的强人手段奏效了，而他的支持者也会为他鼓掌。
现实情况是，丹麦在那里的军事存在并不显著，他们支持格陵兰有更大的独立性。现实中，我也无法想象在一个（知情的）格陵兰人愿意成为美国一部分的世界。而另一种现实是，丹麦人民其实并不太关心格陵兰选择做什么。这是他们的选择。继续前进也行。和我们一起 - 很好。独立 - 好吧。成为美国的州 - 祝你好运！
Totally agree. This all for show. So that what he gets what he wants (more bases) he can argue that his strongman tactics worked. And his base will applaud him loudly.
The reality is that Denmark doesn’t have a material military presence there, and are supporters of greater independence. The reality is also that I can’t imagine a universe where an (informed) Greenlander wants to be part of the US. And the other reality is that the people of Denmark don’t really care much about what Greenland chooses to do. It’s their choice. Move on. That’s fine. Stay with us - cool. Go independent - fine. Become a US state - good luck with that!
BicycleAlternative93
完全同意。这一切都是为了表演。为了让他得到自己想要的东西（更多军事基地），他可以辩称自己的强人手段奏效了，而他的支持者也会为他鼓掌。
现实情况是，丹麦在那里的军事存在并不显著，他们支持格陵兰有更大的独立性。现实中，我也无法想象在一个（知情的）格陵兰人愿意成为美国一部分的世界。而另一种现实是，丹麦人民其实并不太关心格陵兰选择做什么。这是他们的选择。继续前进也行。和我们一起 - 很好。独立 - 好吧。成为美国的州 - 祝你好运！
LotsofSports
You will be ordered to shoot American protesters. Will you obey?
你将被命令射杀美国抗议者。你会服从吗？
You will be ordered to shoot American protesters. Will you obey?
你将被命令射杀美国抗议者。你会服从吗？
DJANGO_UNTAMED
No. It is unlawful
不，这是违法的
No. It is unlawful
不，这是违法的
LunarWhale117
Lol bad bot Pick up even a us history book bot You won't even have to go that far back
哈哈，糟糕的机器人，至少拿本美国历史书看看吧。你甚至不需要翻得太远。
Lol bad bot Pick up even a us history book bot You won't even have to go that far back
哈哈，糟糕的机器人，至少拿本美国历史书看看吧。你甚至不需要翻得太远。
Putrid-Ad-2900
Ex military here, you learn there is something called an illegal order, this type of order is when an obvious violation will happen and you are not allowed to follow such an order, shooting protesters falles in the category of an illegal order and you must not follow it
我是退伍军人，经过训练，你会学到有一种叫做“非法命令”的东西，这种命令意味着明显会发生违法行为，而你不能服从这样的命令。开枪对待抗议者就属于非法命令，你绝不能服从它。
Ex military here, you learn there is something called an illegal order, this type of order is when an obvious violation will happen and you are not allowed to follow such an order, shooting protesters falles in the category of an illegal order and you must not follow it
我是退伍军人，经过训练，你会学到有一种叫做“非法命令”的东西，这种命令意味着明显会发生违法行为，而你不能服从这样的命令。开枪对待抗议者就属于非法命令，你绝不能服从它。
hopefullforever
Try telling that to trump. He doesn’t like no for an answer.
试着告诉特朗普。他不喜欢听到“不”的回答。
Try telling that to trump. He doesn’t like no for an answer.
试着告诉特朗普。他不喜欢听到“不”的回答。
ValdyrSH
Is that why American soldiers are famous for NEVER committing a war crime??
这就是为什么美国士兵因从不犯战争罪而闻名吗？
Is that why American soldiers are famous for NEVER committing a war crime??
这就是为什么美国士兵因从不犯战争罪而闻名吗？
hikerchick29
Between Vietnam and the Kent state massacre, you have entirely too much faith in the concept of “lawful orders”
在越南战争和肯特州大屠杀之间，你对“合法命令”这一概念实在是太过信任了。
Between Vietnam and the Kent state massacre, you have entirely too much faith in the concept of “lawful orders”
在越南战争和肯特州大屠杀之间，你对“合法命令”这一概念实在是太过信任了。
Hot-Spray-2774
Excellent article. As a veteran, I felt the same way when I served. The reason? Because we were educated in basic training for weeks about the UCMJ, and everything from illegal orders to military law.
Expect Trump and the Republicans to call for "military basic training reform" under the guise of saving taxpayer money to eliminate this training.
Hot-Spray-2774
很棒的文章。作为一名退伍军人，我在服役时也有同样的感受。原因是什么呢？因为我们在基础训练中接受了数周关于《统一军事司法法典》（UCMJ）的教育，包括从非法命令到军事法的所有内容。
预计特朗普和共和党会以节省纳税人资金的名义，呼吁进行“军事基础训练改革”，以便取消这类培训。
Excellent article. As a veteran, I felt the same way when I served. The reason? Because we were educated in basic training for weeks about the UCMJ, and everything from illegal orders to military law.
Expect Trump and the Republicans to call for "military basic training reform" under the guise of saving taxpayer money to eliminate this training.
Hot-Spray-2774
很棒的文章。作为一名退伍军人，我在服役时也有同样的感受。原因是什么呢？因为我们在基础训练中接受了数周关于《统一军事司法法典》（UCMJ）的教育，包括从非法命令到军事法的所有内容。
预计特朗普和共和党会以节省纳税人资金的名义，呼吁进行“军事基础训练改革”，以便取消这类培训。
Hwy74
The real reason this would never take place is because the US is a bully nation that can only pick on nations much weaker than them such as Iraq after 10 years of sanctions WITH the help of many other nations. The US alone is too scared of countries which are a 10th of their military strength, that’s why Greenland has nothing to worry about.
这根本不可能发生的真正原因是，美国是一个霸凌国家，只敢挑选比自己弱得多的国家下手，比如在多国的帮助下，制裁10年后的伊拉克。美国单独一国，甚至对那些军事力量仅为自己十分之一的国家都心生畏惧，这就是为什么格陵兰根本不用担心的原因。
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The real reason this would never take place is because the US is a bully nation that can only pick on nations much weaker than them such as Iraq after 10 years of sanctions WITH the help of many other nations. The US alone is too scared of countries which are a 10th of their military strength, that’s why Greenland has nothing to worry about.
这根本不可能发生的真正原因是，美国是一个霸凌国家，只敢挑选比自己弱得多的国家下手，比如在多国的帮助下，制裁10年后的伊拉克。美国单独一国，甚至对那些军事力量仅为自己十分之一的国家都心生畏惧，这就是为什么格陵兰根本不用担心的原因。
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euMonke
Thanks! I would prefer not being forced to kill you.
Respectfully, a danish Monke.
谢谢！我希望不被迫杀了你。
敬礼，一只丹麦猴子。
Thanks! I would prefer not being forced to kill you.
Respectfully, a danish Monke.
谢谢！我希望不被迫杀了你。
敬礼，一只丹麦猴子。
CaramelCritical5906
Trump is a complete Narcissist!! He needs constant attention!! It's all about him!!! He will say that the sun is blue just to get the spotlight!! This Insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, should be in jail!!I can't believe that Americans elected this complete idiot!!
CaramelCritical5906
特朗普完全是个自恋狂！！他需要不断的关注！！一切都围绕着他！！！他甚至会说太阳是蓝色的，只为引起关注！！这个煽动叛乱者、强奸犯、骗子，应该关进监狱！！我真不敢相信美国人居然选了这个彻底的傻子！！
Trump is a complete Narcissist!! He needs constant attention!! It's all about him!!! He will say that the sun is blue just to get the spotlight!! This Insurrectionist, rapist, fraudster, should be in jail!!I can't believe that Americans elected this complete idiot!!
CaramelCritical5906
特朗普完全是个自恋狂！！他需要不断的关注！！一切都围绕着他！！！他甚至会说太阳是蓝色的，只为引起关注！！这个煽动叛乱者、强奸犯、骗子，应该关进监狱！！我真不敢相信美国人居然选了这个彻底的傻子！！
pizzaschmizza39
Lots and lots of other soldiers will. For everyone one of you there is a Maga asshole willing to take your place and follow trumps orders no matter how fucked up they are. Before we know it, we will all be under martial law, and it will be illegal to say anything bad about trump or hold up a blank sheet of paper. He wants to turn America into russia. He's got the oligarchy almost done.
He's almost got the judicial system under his wing. He's removing all checks and balances one at a time. He's removed anything stopping his outright lied and misinformation on social media. He's almost got the media under using control completely. Will this country fight back or not?
We put a rapist and felon in the Whitehouse. We lost our soul and failed the IQ test. The world laughs at us and cries for it's future knowing dictators around the world will be emboldened and supported. Ukraine weeps because putin owns trump, so the US will withdraw from nato and let russia take anything it wants. Europe is our only hope to defend the free world.
很多其他士兵会这么做。每一个像你一样的都有一个MAGA的混蛋愿意代替你，跟着特朗普的命令走，不管这些命令有多么扭曲。我们很快就会处于戒严状态，任何批评特朗普的话都将被视为非法，甚至举着一张白纸也会被视为违法。他想把美国变成俄罗斯。他几乎完成了寡头政治的建立。
他几乎把司法体系纳入了自己的控制下。他在一点一点地消除所有的制衡机制。他已经消除了任何阻止他在社交媒体上散布谎言和虚假信息的障碍。他几乎完全控制了媒体。这个国家会反击吗？
我们把一个强奸犯和罪犯送进了白宫。我们失去了灵魂，没通过智商测试。全世界都在嘲笑我们，担心自己的未来，因为全球的独裁者都将得到鼓励和支持。乌克兰在哭泣，因为普京控制着特朗普，所以美国会从北约撤出，让俄罗斯拿走任何它想要的东西。欧洲是我们捍卫自由世界的唯一希望。
Lots and lots of other soldiers will. For everyone one of you there is a Maga asshole willing to take your place and follow trumps orders no matter how fucked up they are. Before we know it, we will all be under martial law, and it will be illegal to say anything bad about trump or hold up a blank sheet of paper. He wants to turn America into russia. He's got the oligarchy almost done.
He's almost got the judicial system under his wing. He's removing all checks and balances one at a time. He's removed anything stopping his outright lied and misinformation on social media. He's almost got the media under using control completely. Will this country fight back or not?
We put a rapist and felon in the Whitehouse. We lost our soul and failed the IQ test. The world laughs at us and cries for it's future knowing dictators around the world will be emboldened and supported. Ukraine weeps because putin owns trump, so the US will withdraw from nato and let russia take anything it wants. Europe is our only hope to defend the free world.
很多其他士兵会这么做。每一个像你一样的都有一个MAGA的混蛋愿意代替你，跟着特朗普的命令走，不管这些命令有多么扭曲。我们很快就会处于戒严状态，任何批评特朗普的话都将被视为非法，甚至举着一张白纸也会被视为违法。他想把美国变成俄罗斯。他几乎完成了寡头政治的建立。
他几乎把司法体系纳入了自己的控制下。他在一点一点地消除所有的制衡机制。他已经消除了任何阻止他在社交媒体上散布谎言和虚假信息的障碍。他几乎完全控制了媒体。这个国家会反击吗？
我们把一个强奸犯和罪犯送进了白宫。我们失去了灵魂，没通过智商测试。全世界都在嘲笑我们，担心自己的未来，因为全球的独裁者都将得到鼓励和支持。乌克兰在哭泣，因为普京控制着特朗普，所以美国会从北约撤出，让俄罗斯拿走任何它想要的东西。欧洲是我们捍卫自由世界的唯一希望。
mystinkingneovagina
I am a former marine myself and can say that many of us will not support Trump’s imperial ambitions
mystinkingneovagina
我自己曾是海军陆战队员，可以说，我们当中许多人不会支持特朗普的帝国主义野心。
I am a former marine myself and can say that many of us will not support Trump’s imperial ambitions
mystinkingneovagina
我自己曾是海军陆战队员，可以说，我们当中许多人不会支持特朗普的帝国主义野心。
Quirky-Bar4236
Trump’s full of shit.
I’m an ex-servicemember and would never obey some dumbass order like that.
Don’t worry, it’s all saber rattling. And even if he did try he’d have a well-armed population that doesn’t agree with him on the matter.
Quirky-Bar4236
特朗普满嘴胡说八道。
我曾是军人，绝不会服从那种愚蠢的命令。
别担心，这都是在虚张声势。即使他真的试图这么做，他也会遇到一群武装到牙齿的民众，他们在这一问题上和他意见不合。
Trump’s full of shit.
I’m an ex-servicemember and would never obey some dumbass order like that.
Don’t worry, it’s all saber rattling. And even if he did try he’d have a well-armed population that doesn’t agree with him on the matter.
Quirky-Bar4236
特朗普满嘴胡说八道。
我曾是军人，绝不会服从那种愚蠢的命令。
别担心，这都是在虚张声势。即使他真的试图这么做，他也会遇到一群武装到牙齿的民众，他们在这一问题上和他意见不合。
Ghostofcoolidge
You would think after four years of Donald Trump, people would figure out his game now. But they just keep falling for it.
No, America is not going to war for Greenland. No, America is not expecting Germany to spend 5% in GDP on their military. No, he will not try to take Canada. Hell, I won't even think he's going to do random, mass deportations.
He's gonna seek a deeper partnership or some form of us territory deal where Greenland keeps their sovereignty. Germany is gonna say "no 5% is ridiculous, we will shoot for 3%", which is good enough. He will get a better trade and border deal with Canada. Trump will eventually cave and compromise on lawful illegals and DACA recipients, as long as he gets stricter border control, a deal where migrants remain in Mexico, and probably go around punishing employers who employ illegals.
He says outrageous stuff to soften the blow off the eventual compromise. He makes them think they won politically when in reality he made them accept something they wouldn't have normally if he just asked for what he really wanted.
I understand you people don't like him. I really do. But come on, figure out his modus operandi at some point.
Ghostofcoolidge
你会以为在经历了特朗普四年的执政后，人们应该已经看透他的把戏了。但他们还是不断上当。
不，美国不会为了格陵兰去打仗。不，美国也不指望德国把GDP的5%用在军费上。不，他也不会试图占领加拿大。天哪，我甚至不认为他会做随机的大规模驱逐。
他会寻求更深层次的合作关系，或者某种形式的美国领土协议，让格陵兰保持其主权。德国会说“5%太荒谬了，我们会定在3%”，这已经足够了。他会和加拿大达成更好的贸易和边境协议。特朗普最终会在合法移民和DACA受益人问题上妥协，只要他能获得更严格的边境控制，达成让移民留在墨西哥的协议，并可能采取措施惩罚雇佣非法移民的雇主。
他说那些令人愤慨的话，实际上是为了软化最终妥协时的冲击。他让他们觉得自己在政治上获胜了，而实际上他让他们接受了他们本来不会接受的东西，只因为他没有直接提出他真正想要的。
我理解你们不喜欢他。我真理解。但拜托，什么时候你们能弄明白他的行事方式？
You would think after four years of Donald Trump, people would figure out his game now. But they just keep falling for it.
No, America is not going to war for Greenland. No, America is not expecting Germany to spend 5% in GDP on their military. No, he will not try to take Canada. Hell, I won't even think he's going to do random, mass deportations.
He's gonna seek a deeper partnership or some form of us territory deal where Greenland keeps their sovereignty. Germany is gonna say "no 5% is ridiculous, we will shoot for 3%", which is good enough. He will get a better trade and border deal with Canada. Trump will eventually cave and compromise on lawful illegals and DACA recipients, as long as he gets stricter border control, a deal where migrants remain in Mexico, and probably go around punishing employers who employ illegals.
He says outrageous stuff to soften the blow off the eventual compromise. He makes them think they won politically when in reality he made them accept something they wouldn't have normally if he just asked for what he really wanted.
I understand you people don't like him. I really do. But come on, figure out his modus operandi at some point.
Ghostofcoolidge
你会以为在经历了特朗普四年的执政后，人们应该已经看透他的把戏了。但他们还是不断上当。
不，美国不会为了格陵兰去打仗。不，美国也不指望德国把GDP的5%用在军费上。不，他也不会试图占领加拿大。天哪，我甚至不认为他会做随机的大规模驱逐。
他会寻求更深层次的合作关系，或者某种形式的美国领土协议，让格陵兰保持其主权。德国会说“5%太荒谬了，我们会定在3%”，这已经足够了。他会和加拿大达成更好的贸易和边境协议。特朗普最终会在合法移民和DACA受益人问题上妥协，只要他能获得更严格的边境控制，达成让移民留在墨西哥的协议，并可能采取措施惩罚雇佣非法移民的雇主。
他说那些令人愤慨的话，实际上是为了软化最终妥协时的冲击。他让他们觉得自己在政治上获胜了，而实际上他让他们接受了他们本来不会接受的东西，只因为他没有直接提出他真正想要的。
我理解你们不喜欢他。我真理解。但拜托，什么时候你们能弄明白他的行事方式？
Short-Coast9042
LMao. It's not a smart and sophisticated strategy, it's ramshackle incompetence. I mean do you seriously believe anything will come of this? Did you believe anything would come of his promises to build a wall, or to jail Hillary Clinton, or any of his other popular promises on the campaign trail? He's an incompetent fool who can't even get good people to work for him because he has zero credibility or loyalty.
Last time around he got utterly dog walked by Congressional Republicans. They ignored everything he said and promised, wrote the legislation that they wanted anyway, and then Trump meekly signed it because he doesn't even have the vision, let alone the ability, to actually make any particular agenda a reality.
Are you just a Trump fan blindly justifying his moronic behavior? Because there's no examples of this actually happening. Trump doesn't win negotiations, he loses them. He doesn't get concessions, he makes them. When he does actually get his way, it's usually bad policy, often immediately stymied, like his ill thought out Muslim ban. He's not an actual competent political operators, he's just a narcissist who has conned a lot of people into supporting him - with a healthy dose of help from oligarchs and the right wing media ecosystem, of course.
哈哈。这并不是什么聪明且精妙的策略，而是破烂不堪的无能。我的意思是，你真的相信这会有什么结果吗？你相信他要建墙、要把希拉里·克林顿关进监狱，或者他在竞选路上其他那些受欢迎的承诺会有结果吗？他是个无能的傻瓜，甚至连让有能力的人为他工作都做不到，因为他毫无可信度或忠诚度。
上次他被国会共和党人彻底碾压。他们无视他说的和承诺的一切，按照自己的意愿起草法案，然后特朗普乖乖地签署，因为他甚至连愿景都没有，更不用说将特定议程变为现实的能力了。
你只是个盲目为特朗普辩护的粉丝吗？因为并没有这真正发生的例子。特朗普在谈判中不是赢，而是输。他不是获得让步，而是做出让步。当他真的得逞时，通常都是糟糕的政策，而且往往立刻就受阻，比如他那考虑不周的穆斯林禁令。他不是真正有能力的政治操盘手，他只是一个自恋狂，骗了很多人为他站台——当然，这少不了寡头和右翼媒体生态系统的大力帮助。
LMao. It's not a smart and sophisticated strategy, it's ramshackle incompetence. I mean do you seriously believe anything will come of this? Did you believe anything would come of his promises to build a wall, or to jail Hillary Clinton, or any of his other popular promises on the campaign trail? He's an incompetent fool who can't even get good people to work for him because he has zero credibility or loyalty.
Last time around he got utterly dog walked by Congressional Republicans. They ignored everything he said and promised, wrote the legislation that they wanted anyway, and then Trump meekly signed it because he doesn't even have the vision, let alone the ability, to actually make any particular agenda a reality.
Are you just a Trump fan blindly justifying his moronic behavior? Because there's no examples of this actually happening. Trump doesn't win negotiations, he loses them. He doesn't get concessions, he makes them. When he does actually get his way, it's usually bad policy, often immediately stymied, like his ill thought out Muslim ban. He's not an actual competent political operators, he's just a narcissist who has conned a lot of people into supporting him - with a healthy dose of help from oligarchs and the right wing media ecosystem, of course.
哈哈。这并不是什么聪明且精妙的策略，而是破烂不堪的无能。我的意思是，你真的相信这会有什么结果吗？你相信他要建墙、要把希拉里·克林顿关进监狱，或者他在竞选路上其他那些受欢迎的承诺会有结果吗？他是个无能的傻瓜，甚至连让有能力的人为他工作都做不到，因为他毫无可信度或忠诚度。
上次他被国会共和党人彻底碾压。他们无视他说的和承诺的一切，按照自己的意愿起草法案，然后特朗普乖乖地签署，因为他甚至连愿景都没有，更不用说将特定议程变为现实的能力了。
你只是个盲目为特朗普辩护的粉丝吗？因为并没有这真正发生的例子。特朗普在谈判中不是赢，而是输。他不是获得让步，而是做出让步。当他真的得逞时，通常都是糟糕的政策，而且往往立刻就受阻，比如他那考虑不周的穆斯林禁令。他不是真正有能力的政治操盘手，他只是一个自恋狂，骗了很多人为他站台——当然，这少不了寡头和右翼媒体生态系统的大力帮助。
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I loathe Trump and I would not support annexing a country, but a few points:
This would be insubordination and the soldier would be court martialed.
International law is a pretend game. What makes a law, law, is if it is enforceable. The UN has only one real job: prevent or contain a nuclear war between the permanent members. The rest, including ICC, is a pretend game that has less legitimacy than an HOA.
Trump is engaging in demagoguery. He's getting a pleasure from being able to dictate headlines. He's getting his revenge from the media as he sees it. The US will not invade, annex, or bomb Greenland.
我厌恶特朗普，也不会支持吞并一个国家，但有几点需要说明：
1. 这是违反军纪，士兵会被军事法庭审判。
2. 国际法是一场虚假的游戏。法律之所以成为法律，是因为它可以被执行。联合国只有一个真正的工作：防止或遏制常任理事国之间的核战争。其他的，包括国际刑事法院（ICC），只是一个合法性不如业主协会（HOA）的虚假游戏。
3. 特朗普在进行煽动性政治言论。他从能够主导新闻头条中获得快感。他认为自己是在报复媒体。美国不会入侵、吞并或轰炸格陵兰。
I loathe Trump and I would not support annexing a country, but a few points:
This would be insubordination and the soldier would be court martialed.
International law is a pretend game. What makes a law, law, is if it is enforceable. The UN has only one real job: prevent or contain a nuclear war between the permanent members. The rest, including ICC, is a pretend game that has less legitimacy than an HOA.
Trump is engaging in demagoguery. He's getting a pleasure from being able to dictate headlines. He's getting his revenge from the media as he sees it. The US will not invade, annex, or bomb Greenland.
我厌恶特朗普，也不会支持吞并一个国家，但有几点需要说明：
1. 这是违反军纪，士兵会被军事法庭审判。
2. 国际法是一场虚假的游戏。法律之所以成为法律，是因为它可以被执行。联合国只有一个真正的工作：防止或遏制常任理事国之间的核战争。其他的，包括国际刑事法院（ICC），只是一个合法性不如业主协会（HOA）的虚假游戏。
3. 特朗普在进行煽动性政治言论。他从能够主导新闻头条中获得快感。他认为自己是在报复媒体。美国不会入侵、吞并或轰炸格陵兰。
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