美国对中国电动汽车征收100%以上关税，但现在中国汽车依然在碾压美国竞争对手
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Krystal and Saagar discuss China's EVs destroying US competition.
在视频中，Krystal 和 Saagar 讨论中国电动汽车是如何摧毁美国竞争对手的竞争力的。
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Krystal and Saagar discuss China's EVs destroying US competition.
在视频中，Krystal 和 Saagar 讨论中国电动汽车是如何摧毁美国竞争对手的竞争力的。
观看次数：161,469次 2025年2月12日
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@davidanderson-22
A $9600 ev with a 100% tariff is still the cheapest in the US market.
一辆9600美元的电动汽车，尽管有100%的关税，但仍然是美国市场上最便宜的。
A $9600 ev with a 100% tariff is still the cheapest in the US market.
一辆9600美元的电动汽车，尽管有100%的关税，但仍然是美国市场上最便宜的。
@titovalasques
Sure, but still can’t buy it because they’ve been banned in the US.
@titovalasques
（回复davidanderson-22）确实如此，但我们仍然买不了，因为他们在美国已经被禁止了。
Sure, but still can’t buy it because they’ve been banned in the US.
@titovalasques
（回复davidanderson-22）确实如此，但我们仍然买不了，因为他们在美国已经被禁止了。
@Gobbldeegoo1
@titovalasques as the world moves forward, we stand still. Brilliant strategy. If we’re trying to become economically irrelevant in the next 100 years.
@Gobbldeegoo1
（回复titovalasques） 世界潮流浩浩荡荡，而我们却始终停滞不前。（对中国电动汽车的限制）真是绝妙的政策——如果我们的目标是让自己在未来100年内变得在经济发展上无关紧要的话
@titovalasques as the world moves forward, we stand still. Brilliant strategy. If we’re trying to become economically irrelevant in the next 100 years.
@Gobbldeegoo1
（回复titovalasques） 世界潮流浩浩荡荡，而我们却始终停滞不前。（对中国电动汽车的限制）真是绝妙的政策——如果我们的目标是让自己在未来100年内变得在经济发展上无关紧要的话
@andrewbaskett8581
Everything about Saagar's take here is horrible. There is nothing revolutionary about these cars. They are like US cars, because they copied US cars via Tesla. They are not more advanced. Its insanely easy to develop an electric car. You dont have to spend and source the combustion systems. The running train for them is really simple. China subsidizes the shit out of the industry and the feeders to it. BYD got to learn everything from Tesla, from manufacturing methods to everything. Do they have cool features? Sure.... In terms of actually innovation, there is nothing....
@andrewbaskett8581
Saagar 在这里的观点完全是错误的（译者注：Saagar是视频中的节目嘉宾，他非常推崇中国的电动汽车）。这些车根本就没有什么重新的地方，它们很像美国的汽车，是因为它们通过特斯拉来抄袭了我们美国的设计。它们并不是更先进的。
开发一辆电动汽车实际上极其简单，你不需要在传统的汽车内燃机系统上费心思和花钱采购。所以对中国电动汽车来说，运行流程非常简单。中国对这个行业以及相关产业链进行了大量补贴。
比亚迪是从特斯拉那里学到的所有东西，从制造方法到其他一切。中国电动汽车有很酷的功能吗？当然……但从真正的创新角度来看，什么也没有……
Everything about Saagar's take here is horrible. There is nothing revolutionary about these cars. They are like US cars, because they copied US cars via Tesla. They are not more advanced. Its insanely easy to develop an electric car. You dont have to spend and source the combustion systems. The running train for them is really simple. China subsidizes the shit out of the industry and the feeders to it. BYD got to learn everything from Tesla, from manufacturing methods to everything. Do they have cool features? Sure.... In terms of actually innovation, there is nothing....
@andrewbaskett8581
Saagar 在这里的观点完全是错误的（译者注：Saagar是视频中的节目嘉宾，他非常推崇中国的电动汽车）。这些车根本就没有什么重新的地方，它们很像美国的汽车，是因为它们通过特斯拉来抄袭了我们美国的设计。它们并不是更先进的。
开发一辆电动汽车实际上极其简单，你不需要在传统的汽车内燃机系统上费心思和花钱采购。所以对中国电动汽车来说，运行流程非常简单。中国对这个行业以及相关产业链进行了大量补贴。
比亚迪是从特斯拉那里学到的所有东西，从制造方法到其他一切。中国电动汽车有很酷的功能吗？当然……但从真正的创新角度来看，什么也没有……
@theboontz58321
@andrewbaskett8581 They copied us? I think you have that backwards buddy. Our cars use THEIR batteries
@theboontz58321
（回复andrewbaskett8581）是他们抄袭了我们吗？我觉得你这话说反了，朋友。其实是我们的汽车在使用他们的电池。
@andrewbaskett8581 They copied us? I think you have that backwards buddy. Our cars use THEIR batteries
@theboontz58321
（回复andrewbaskett8581）是他们抄袭了我们吗？我觉得你这话说反了，朋友。其实是我们的汽车在使用他们的电池。
@asw654
@ Yes yes, that's what they said about Japan. Blah blah Cheap Japanese goods.
But the US gov't still needed to slap them with the plaza accords. Japan couldn't do much about it as a protectorate, but China's a different ballgame.
@asw654
（（回复andrewbaskett8581）是的，这正是当年他们对日本的舆论话术。还有什么廉价的日本商品之类的陈词滥调。
但美国政府还是不得不通过《广场协议》对日本施压。作为保护国，日本当时没什么办法，但是中国就不一样了。
@ Yes yes, that's what they said about Japan. Blah blah Cheap Japanese goods.
But the US gov't still needed to slap them with the plaza accords. Japan couldn't do much about it as a protectorate, but China's a different ballgame.
@asw654
（（回复andrewbaskett8581）是的，这正是当年他们对日本的舆论话术。还有什么廉价的日本商品之类的陈词滥调。
但美国政府还是不得不通过《广场协议》对日本施压。作为保护国，日本当时没什么办法，但是中国就不一样了。
@Samael1113
It's more than 100%
The Biden Tariffs on CN EVs were 100%. But there are other general Tariffs on the goods from China that also apply IIRC. It's like 150%. 25% on Li-Ion batteries, as well as 50% on Solar cells and semiconductors can all all contribute. But the battery tends to be about 30-60% of the cost of the car - Though if the Salt battery gets mainstream enough, it might be able to sneak by the Lithium battery tariff.
And chances are high you won't want the base model - you'll want the AC or Heater, depending on location, and a few of the other big QoL options - they are more like 12-13k.
After the Tariffs you're a little more than the Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt which are the cheapest US EVs at like 25-30k (again IIRC - and I think one of them was discontinued).
It's been a little while and I can't live in frustration at how the US government is actively screwing things up on this front, so I am not living in this space anymore. Things may have changed a little.
@Samael1113
这不仅仅是100%的问题。
拜登政府对中国电动汽车征收的关税是100%。但我还记得，针对来自中国的商品，还有其他一些普遍的关税也会适用，总的来说可能接近150%。例如，锂电池的关税是25%，太阳能电池和半导体的关税是50%，这些都会对价格造成影响。电池通常占整车成本的30%-60%左右——不过如果熔盐电池能够足够普及，或许可以绕过锂电池的关税。
而且，你可能不会选择基础款——你会希望有空调或加热器，这取决于你所在的地区，此外还有一些其他影响生活质量的重要配置——这些配置的价格大约在1.2-1.3万美元左右。
加上关税之后，你的价格就稍微超过了日产Leaf或雪佛兰Bolt这两款最便宜的美国电动汽车，它们的价格大概在2.5-3万美元左右（如果我没记错的话——而且其中一款已经停产了）
已经有一段时间了，我也不想再为美国政府在这一问题上做出的种种错误而感到沮丧，所以我不再关注这个话题。现在事情可能已经发生了一些变化。
It's more than 100%
The Biden Tariffs on CN EVs were 100%. But there are other general Tariffs on the goods from China that also apply IIRC. It's like 150%. 25% on Li-Ion batteries, as well as 50% on Solar cells and semiconductors can all all contribute. But the battery tends to be about 30-60% of the cost of the car - Though if the Salt battery gets mainstream enough, it might be able to sneak by the Lithium battery tariff.
And chances are high you won't want the base model - you'll want the AC or Heater, depending on location, and a few of the other big QoL options - they are more like 12-13k.
After the Tariffs you're a little more than the Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt which are the cheapest US EVs at like 25-30k (again IIRC - and I think one of them was discontinued).
It's been a little while and I can't live in frustration at how the US government is actively screwing things up on this front, so I am not living in this space anymore. Things may have changed a little.
@Samael1113
这不仅仅是100%的问题。
拜登政府对中国电动汽车征收的关税是100%。但我还记得，针对来自中国的商品，还有其他一些普遍的关税也会适用，总的来说可能接近150%。例如，锂电池的关税是25%，太阳能电池和半导体的关税是50%，这些都会对价格造成影响。电池通常占整车成本的30%-60%左右——不过如果熔盐电池能够足够普及，或许可以绕过锂电池的关税。
而且，你可能不会选择基础款——你会希望有空调或加热器，这取决于你所在的地区，此外还有一些其他影响生活质量的重要配置——这些配置的价格大约在1.2-1.3万美元左右。
加上关税之后，你的价格就稍微超过了日产Leaf或雪佛兰Bolt这两款最便宜的美国电动汽车，它们的价格大概在2.5-3万美元左右（如果我没记错的话——而且其中一款已经停产了）
已经有一段时间了，我也不想再为美国政府在这一问题上做出的种种错误而感到沮丧，所以我不再关注这个话题。现在事情可能已经发生了一些变化。
@kenvalenti5414
We cannot compete which is why we have a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
It's getting to the point that even with the 100% tariff, Chinese EVs will still be better than anything made in America.
@kenvalenti5414
我们无法竞争的，这就是为什么我们对中国电动汽车征收100%关税的原因。
现在的情况是，即使征收了100%的关税，中国电动汽车仍然比任何美国制造的汽车更好。
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We cannot compete which is why we have a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
It's getting to the point that even with the 100% tariff, Chinese EVs will still be better than anything made in America.
@kenvalenti5414
我们无法竞争的，这就是为什么我们对中国电动汽车征收100%关税的原因。
现在的情况是，即使征收了100%的关税，中国电动汽车仍然比任何美国制造的汽车更好。
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@furlycee
After being on rednote I’m SO MAD Americans can’t buy Chinese EVs. They’re cheaper and cooler and have better technology. Straight to jail for any American politicians who’ve kept me from buying one.
@furlycee
在去过小红书后，我真的很生气！！！为什么美国人不能购买中国电动汽车？它们更便宜、更酷，技术更先进。所有阻止我购买这些车的美国政客都该直接进监狱。
After being on rednote I’m SO MAD Americans can’t buy Chinese EVs. They’re cheaper and cooler and have better technology. Straight to jail for any American politicians who’ve kept me from buying one.
@furlycee
在去过小红书后，我真的很生气！！！为什么美国人不能购买中国电动汽车？它们更便宜、更酷，技术更先进。所有阻止我购买这些车的美国政客都该直接进监狱。
@brianwilson6564
As an American expat living in China let me tell you... BYD is only one of MANY awesome EV car companies in China. I bought a Li Auto Chinese EV car a year ago. It is like a spaceship. Amazing car. TESLA should be thanking its lucky stars these are not allowed in the USA. China is by far the king of EV.
作为一名住在中国的美国侨民，我来告诉你们……比亚迪只是中国众多优秀电动汽车公司中的一家。我一年前买了一辆理想汽车的中国电动汽车，它就像一艘太空船，真是太棒了。特斯拉应该感激上天，这些车在美国不能销售。中国无疑是电动汽车的霸主。
As an American expat living in China let me tell you... BYD is only one of MANY awesome EV car companies in China. I bought a Li Auto Chinese EV car a year ago. It is like a spaceship. Amazing car. TESLA should be thanking its lucky stars these are not allowed in the USA. China is by far the king of EV.
作为一名住在中国的美国侨民，我来告诉你们……比亚迪只是中国众多优秀电动汽车公司中的一家。我一年前买了一辆理想汽车的中国电动汽车，它就像一艘太空船，真是太棒了。特斯拉应该感激上天，这些车在美国不能销售。中国无疑是电动汽车的霸主。
@howlinberry1645
greed has really rotted this country from the inside out. What a effing shame.
贪婪真的把美国这个国家从内到外腐蚀了，真是太可耻了。
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greed has really rotted this country from the inside out. What a effing shame.
贪婪真的把美国这个国家从内到外腐蚀了，真是太可耻了。
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