韩国经济的现状。 原来大家都很懂嘛,只有韩国人自己感觉良好
正文翻译

In recent years, concerns about the structure of South Korea’s economy have become increasingly prominent. South Korea is renowned worldwide for its technological innovation, rapid industrialization, and export-driven growth. However, much of this success relies heavily on a handful of large conglomerates known as “chaebols.” Companies like Samsung and SK Hynix dominate the global semiconductor market and contribute a significant portion of Korea’s GDP and exports. While these giants have propelled Korea onto the world stage, their overwhelming influence has also made the economy more vulnerable.
If any of these giants encounter problems, the impact on the entire economy could be severe. Due to the lack of diversification, fluctuations in global demand, supply chain disruptions, or changes in relevant regulatory policies affecting these companies could potentially undermine the very foundation of the nation’s economy.
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近年来,韩国经济结构引发的担忧日益突出。韩国因其科技创新、快速工业化和出口驱动型增长而享誉全球。然而,这一切成就很大程度上依靠着少数几家被称为“财阀”的大型企业集团。像三星和SK海力士这样的公司在全球半导体市场占据主导地位,为韩国的GDP和出口贡献了相当可观的份额。虽然这些巨头让韩国跻身世界舞台,但它们过大的影响力也让整个经济变得脆弱。
如果这些巨头中的任何一家出现问题,其对整个经济的冲击都可能极为严重。由于缺乏多元化,一旦全球需求波动、供应链受扰或相关监管政策发生变化,影响到这些企业,就可能动摇整个国家的经济根基。

In recent years, concerns about the structure of South Korea’s economy have become increasingly prominent. South Korea is renowned worldwide for its technological innovation, rapid industrialization, and export-driven growth. However, much of this success relies heavily on a handful of large conglomerates known as “chaebols.” Companies like Samsung and SK Hynix dominate the global semiconductor market and contribute a significant portion of Korea’s GDP and exports. While these giants have propelled Korea onto the world stage, their overwhelming influence has also made the economy more vulnerable.
If any of these giants encounter problems, the impact on the entire economy could be severe. Due to the lack of diversification, fluctuations in global demand, supply chain disruptions, or changes in relevant regulatory policies affecting these companies could potentially undermine the very foundation of the nation’s economy.
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近年来,韩国经济结构引发的担忧日益突出。韩国因其科技创新、快速工业化和出口驱动型增长而享誉全球。然而,这一切成就很大程度上依靠着少数几家被称为“财阀”的大型企业集团。像三星和SK海力士这样的公司在全球半导体市场占据主导地位,为韩国的GDP和出口贡献了相当可观的份额。虽然这些巨头让韩国跻身世界舞台,但它们过大的影响力也让整个经济变得脆弱。
如果这些巨头中的任何一家出现问题,其对整个经济的冲击都可能极为严重。由于缺乏多元化,一旦全球需求波动、供应链受扰或相关监管政策发生变化,影响到这些企业,就可能动摇整个国家的经济根基。
评论翻译
@Technical_Watch_5580
Every country is complaining.
每个国家都在抱怨。
@gregzillaman
Hey at least korea has a couple companies. The US just has one giant NVIDIA / S&P 500 circle jerk going on.
至少韩国还有好几家公司,美国现在就剩一个巨大的 NVIDIA/S&P 500 (注:老黄的显卡公司/ 标普500 )自嗨循环。
@Only_Statistician_21
Korean economy is far more concentrated in a few corporations than the US.
韩国经济的集中程度比美国高得多,主要掌握在少数几家公司手里。
@Optischlong
Silicon Valley and Wall St are both ponzi schemes. $38T debt and US citizens cant get affordable healthcare. Billions upon billions are sent to Israel.
硅谷和华尔街都是庞氏骗局。美国有38万亿美元的债务,老百姓却负担不起医疗。成百上千亿美元被送到以色列。
@kazee82
Are you seriously trying to compare the Korean economy with Americas? We do have affordable Healthcare. I can tell you literally know nothing about America except for what you hear on Social media or reddit. Now go clean up your room before mommy comes home
你是认真的吗,竟然想把韩国经济跟美国比? 我们可是有负担得起的医疗。看得出来你对美国一窍不通,只是听社交媒体或 Reddit 上说的。快去收拾房间吧,免得你妈回家看到。
@Optischlong
Make Israel Great Again bwhahahahahaha
让以色列再次伟大,哈哈哈哈哈哈
@Tobipig
I like to bash on some Americans for bootlicking politicians or billionaires, but saying that the S&P 500 is a ponzi scheme is an insane take.
我有时会吐槽一些美国人拍政治人物或富豪的马屁,但说标普500是庞氏骗局,这想法也太离谱了。
@RevolutionaryBar7400
Frankly, which country's economy does not rely on large corporations unless they don't have one
坦白说,哪个国家的经济不是依赖大企业的?除非它根本就没有大企业。
@March_Six
So idk why the korean left wing keeps giving shit to major corporations and the families behidn them.
我不知道为什么韩国的左翼一直在针对大企业和背后的那些家族。
@RevolutionaryBar7400
If you're not just randomly ranting on any comment but genuinely curious about why left wing keeps giving shits on large corporations, the thing is, they indeed have done some shitty things.
If you're interested in what kind of things they have done so far, you can check it on the internet, just make sure you get information from legit media. There is simply not enough space to write it down here, and you can imagine the complexity of any dispute that involves cooperation, labor, and government.
Do I think it is morally wrong that korean large corporations are getting shits from left wing while korean economy rely heavily on them? Not really, they have done some bad things as I have mentioned, but I do agree that they did get a bit more shit than they deserve it.
Another thing is that, chaebols do own quite a lot -- almost everything in korea, and one can argue their success were only achieved because they were heavily subsidized by the previous governments, and this is somewhat true also.
So it's a complicated thing...
TL;DR: while not all the shit they got can be justified, but they indeed deserved some shits from left wing.
如果你不是随便在评论里发牢骚,而是真的好奇为什么左翼一直批大企业,原因是这些企业确实做过一些很糟糕的事。
如果你想知道他们到底做过什么,可以自己去网上查,但一定要看靠谱的媒体报道。这里没法详细写出来,而且涉及企业、劳工和政府的纠纷都很复杂。
我觉得韩国大企业在韩国经济高度依赖它们的情况下被左翼批,是不是道德上不对?我不这么认为——他们的确做过坏事,但可能也被骂得比应得的多了一点。
还有一点,财阀在韩国几乎什么都占有,他们的成功有人说是因为过去政府给了大量补贴,这也有一定道理。
所以,这事很复杂……
总结:虽然他们被批的部分可能没完全合理,但确实有些批评是他们应得的。
@BortcornsFourJezus
Don't forget - - The chaebol families collaborated with Japan back in the day
别忘了——当年那些财阀家族可是和日本合作过的。
@ovcdev7
Mitsubishi built planes that bombed Asia. GM engines drove the German war machine. IBM cataloged Holocaust victims. Fanta is literally Nazi juice.
Corporate collaboration with evil regimes is the rule, not the exception.
三菱造过轰炸亚洲的飞机,通用的发动机推动过德国的战争机器,IBM帮忙登记过大屠杀的受害者,芬达其实就是纳粹汽水。
企业和邪恶政权合作,几乎是常态,不是例外。
@BortcornsFourJezus
Didn't say otherwise. But what makes this one different is that the new government, riding a wave of anti-colonial sentiment on the peninsula, happily worked with the chaebol families and elevated them. The chaebol weren't yet the chaebol. They were given super cheap access to former Japanese assets while also getting subsidies from the US government.
These assets could have been distributed any number of ways, to any various people or entities. It was a conscious choice to elevate collaborator families.
Not surprising now that I know what Rhee did to striking workers in Jeju
我没说不一样。不过这次特别的是,新政府借着半岛上的反殖民情绪,乐意跟那些财阀家族合作,还把他们捧了起来。当时这些财阀还没形成规模,他们以超低价拿到前日本资产,还从美国政府拿到了补贴。
这些资产本来可以用很多方式分配给不同的人或机构,但政府是有意选择扶持那些曾经合作过的家族。
在知道李承晚当年在济州对罢工工人的所作所为之后,这就一点也不奇怪了。
@Fuzzy_Advance_9658
this is false?
historically, the People Power Party (right wing/conservative party of South Korea) has advocated for pro-business policies, deregulation, lower taxes, and economic growth driven by large corporations. They are viewed as having closer ties to the business elites and the establishment.
while the Democratic party focuses on "economic democratization," labor rights, and increasing regulations on chaebols to reduce their economic dominance. They often campaign on reforming the corporate governance of these conglomerates
这是真的假的?
从历史上看,韩国的国民力量党(右翼/保守党)一直主张亲商政策、放松监管、降低税收,并推动由大企业带动的经济增长。他们被认为与商业精英和既有权力结构关系更密切。
而民主党则更注重“经济民主化”、劳工权益,并加强对财阀的监管,以减少它们的经济垄断。他们常以改革这些大企业的公司治理为竞选主张。
@BortcornsFourJezus
The chaebol families were given their positions by the US government. They chose people who had previously collaborated with Japanese colonizers
财阀家族的地位是美国政府给的,他们挑的是以前跟日本殖民者合作过的人。
@Long_Tackle_6931
Not true. Look at Australia. People genuinely wealthy even restaurant waiters save hundreds of thousands usd
不对啊,你看看澳大利亚。那儿的人真有钱,连餐厅的服务员都能攒下几十万美元。
@OP
Mining industry.
采矿业。
@Long_Tackle_6931
Nope. That’s a shallow view. You think Melbourne mines?
不对,那想法太肤浅了。你觉得墨尔本有矿吗?
@max38576
Yes, but we must not allow corporations with money and power to manipulate and hijack the government; instead, they must operate under government oversight.
是的,但我们不能让有钱有势的公司操纵和控制政府,而是要让它们在政府监管下运作。
@Just-kiddin-0123
Well, China's largest corporations are mostly state-owned, so idk about that.
嗯,中国最大的公司大多是国有的,所以这个我就不太确定了。
@buttnugchug
BTS and Kpop
防弹少年团和韩流音乐
@New-Prior1978
Don’t forget K-beauty!
别忘了还有韩妆!
@Soldat_wazer
There’s a lot of other companies lol. Like hanwa which is a major military contractor and makes korea the 8th biggest exporter of weapons in the world
还有很多其他公司啊,哈哈。比如韩华,它是个主要的军工承包商,让韩国成为世界第八大武器出口国。
@OP
I think the point of this meme is the Dubai Chewy Cookies lol
我觉得这个梗的重点是迪拜软曲奇,lol。
@Single-Head5135
But are they weapons-grade Cookies?
但它们是武器级的饼干吗?
@Lem0n_Lem0n
He trying his very best ok..
他已经尽力了,好吗。
@zeke714
Hanwha and Hyundai. I think 8th is too low for South Korea in terms of military exporter last year.
韩华和现代。我觉得去年韩国军售出口排名第八有点太低了。
@Soldat_wazer
It’s not that surprising, a lot of European countries have a strong weapons manufacturing sector which pushes Korea lower
这不太让人意外,很多欧洲国家的武器制造业很强,这就让韩国的排名往下降了。
@zeke714
Record exports, Record KOSPI, Record tourism. Way better than Yoon and Trump.
出口创纪录,股市创纪录,旅游创纪录。比尹锡悦和特朗普好多了。
@zeke714
This on top of Yoon's martial law and Lee Jae-myung first 6 months in office as President.
再加上尹的戒严令和李在明当总统头六个月的情况。
@AppropriateMess2523
its thanks to the semiconductor supercycle, not LJM. leftists are fucking delusional
这都归功于半导体超级周期,跟 LJM 没关系。左派真是脑子有病。
@zeke714
Right wing are spineless US bootlicking CIA pawns who almost destroyed democracy in Korea but leftists are the bad guys for preventing their coup? Exports such as military hardware, food, etc is all at record highs.
右翼就是些没骨气、拍美国马屁的CIA棋子,几乎把韩国的民主毁了,可阻止他们政变的反而成了“坏人”?军火、食品等出口现在都创了历史新高。
@Dactylic126
Oh my!
Didn’t know LJM designed and engineered all those chips and weapons! And he was the producer of Kpop demon hunters on top of it?
I’d be damned, he sounds amazing! Bet his aura alone makes people copulate harder.
Does he have a pet tiger and a bird perchance?
欧买嘎!
我还真不知道 LJM 设计并打造了那些芯片和武器!而且他还是“Kpop恶魔猎人”的制作人?
厉害啊,他听起来太牛了!我打赌光是他的气场就能让人更卖力地“亲热”。
他是不是还有只老虎宠物和一只鸟啊?
@mrjcseo
let me guess you would say economic partner is with China whereas security is with USA bullshit
让我猜猜,你会说经济上跟中国合作,安全上跟美国合作——之类的扯淡。
@zeke714
Economically, South Korea should trade with everyone as with any country. For national security, South Korea shouldn't rely on a foreign military just so it can dragged into a proxy war with China by the US. President Lee recently renewed ties with China and the North Korean threat isn't real as shown by Yoon's drone strike into Pyeongyang. North Korea responded by blowing up a route near the DMZ signalling that North Korea does not want to engage in conflict with the South.
从经济上看,韩国应该像对待任何国家一样,与所有国家进行贸易。
在国家安全方面,韩国不该依赖外国军队,否则可能会被美国拖进与中国的代理战争。
李总统最近恢复了与中国的关系,而尹总统对平壤的无人机袭击也表明,朝鲜威胁并不真实。
朝鲜随后炸毁了接近非军事区的一条路线,释放出不想与韩国发生冲突的信号。
@VeritasNeo
Yea, record KRW depreciation and government debt.
是啊,韩元创纪录的贬值,还有政府债务。
@matronmotheroflolth
So that’s why they call it the Samsung Republic.
所以这就是他们叫它“三星共和国”的原因。
@Adorable-Thing2551
Yeah but you would want to live there, trust me. Life's Good there.
是啊,不过你肯定会想住在那里,相信我。那里的生活很不错。
@heickelrrx
Life good is LG
生活美好就是LG。
@Adorable-Thing2551
(Congratulations, you figured out the joke)
恭喜,你懂这个笑话了。
@lapsaptrash
The big boss of Samsung has been mia in a hospital for years and for all we know he already died. However due to inheritance laws it will cause a major economic disaster so everyone including the government keeping a blind eye to the situation.
三星的大老板已经在医院消失好几年了,说不定早就去世了。不过因为继承法的关系,一旦公开会引发严重的经济危机,所以大家包括政府都装作没看见。
@Aggressive-Hawk9186
I'm glad I already bought my Galaxy S25U before Samsung goes to ship lol
我很庆幸在三星发货之前就已经买了我的 Galaxy S25U,哈哈。
@rodon
How about that Dubai Chewy Cookie tho?
那迪拜的嚼劲饼干怎么样啊
@FilipinoAirlines
Yeh, why did the korean airport i went to able to sell me dubai chocolates? They have partnerships?
嗯,为什么我去的那个韩国机场能卖给我迪拜的巧克力?他们有合作关系吗?
@2kokuoyabun
a bit harsh
有点苛刻
@United_Will_7981
A dessert pillar next to semiconductors… yeah that’s very Korea lol.
甜点能和半导体并列支柱产业……这也太韩国了哈哈。
@United_Will_7981
Samsung and Hynix make sense, but why the hell is there a cookie?
三星和海力士我能理解,但为啥还有个饼干啊?
@Adorable-Thing2551
https://www.reddit.com/r/KoreanFood/comments/1qcyn8j/have_you_heard_of_dubai_chewy_cookies/
(关于迪拜软曲奇的链接)
@United_Will_7981
That’s literally the point. Korea’s economy latches way too easily onto whatever suddenly sells well.
这就是说重点。韩国经济太容易一头扎进一时火的东西。
@United_Will_7981
f Samsung or SK even wobble a bit, the stock market and exchange rate react before the official stats do
如果三星或SK稍微有点动摇,股市和汇率会比官方数据先做出反应。
@United_Will_7981
This isn’t really mocking Korea, it’s more like a visual summary of the risk
这并不是在嘲笑韩国,更像是对风险的一个形象化总结。
@United_Will_7981
The reason this hits so hard is because deep down everyone’s uneasy about it
之所以让人触动,是因为其实大家心里都挺不安的。
@kdu5578
Korean economy? Oh, that 'developed country' that brags when semiconductor prices are up and cries when they’re down~ While China is upgrading its manufacturing industry, South Korea’s still debating how much extra defense funding they should hand over to the U.S., hehe.
韩国经济?哦,就是那个半导体涨价时拼命吹嘘,跌价时痛哭的‘发达国家’~中国在升级制造业,韩国却在讨论该多给美国多少军费,呵呵。
@Irritated
Stop talking about the Miracle on the Han River! Now Chinese phones, cars, and batteries are crushing Korea across the board—even Korean drama special effects are made by Chinese studios! Wake up, all you’ve got left is plastic surgery and boy/girl groups!
别再说什么汉江奇迹了!现在中国的手机、汽车和电池在各个方面碾压韩国——连韩国电视剧的特效都是中国公司制作的!醒醒吧,韩国只剩下整容和男女偶像团体了!
@Embarrassed_Escape93
Hyundai, Hanwha, KIA, LG, KPOP, etc...
现代、韩华、起亚、LG、韩流等等…
@ufozhou
Hyundai???
Car, ship and military
现代???
汽车、船,还有军工。
@AppropriateMess2523
its basically hynix and samsung thats propping up KOSPI, yet leftists think that this is thanks to the government lol
基本上就是靠海力士和三星在撑着KOSPI,可还有左派觉得这是政府的功劳,笑死。
@Sickofit_3136
too accurate ngl
太准确了,真的。
@Danncoop194
Even SK Hynix Chairman Chey Tae-won is warning Korea could see negative growth.
KCCI chief warns Korea's growth is losing steam, urges policy shift
https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10657671
就连SK海力士董事长崔泰源也警告,韩国可能会出现负增长。
韩国商工会议所会长提醒韩国的增长正在失速,并呼吁调整政策。
@Fearless_Push_4227
Naw, Korea is doing perfectly fine compared to other nations. I would even say Korea is peaking. The life of average citizens, however, sucks at this moment due to the war. Though it sucks alot more for other developed nations.
不,我觉得韩国和其他国家比起来挺好的,甚至可以说是巅峰期。不过普通老百姓的生活现在确实挺糟的,因为战争的关系。不过相比其他发达国家,韩国的情况还算好一些。
@IamNerdAsian
Which war?
哪场战争?
@Azsolus
Dubai chewy cookie ?
迪拜的那种嚼劲饼干吗?
@Norman_n
whats dubai chewy cookie?
迪拜的软曲奇是什么?
@heickelrrx
I thought samsung run korea economy as whole
我还以为三星撑起了整个韩国经济呢。
@perspective
South Korea still bragging about Samsung and Hyundai? Look, Chinese new energy cars have already made it to Europe. Who buys Korean EVs besides Koreans themselves? K-pop might be hot, but it won’t save the economy—once semiconductors crash, it’s game over. This economic structure is way too fragile
韩国还在吹嘘三星和现代吗?看看,中国的新能源车已经进入欧洲市场了。除了韩国人自己,谁会去买韩国的电动车?K-pop或许火爆,但拯救不了经济——一旦芯片价格崩盘,就彻底凉了。这种经济结构太脆弱了 (笑哭)
@kknc l4
Sigh, what do we have left besides kimchi and idols? While China is pushing ahead with 5G, AI, and space stations, we’re still arguing over the crown prince of Samsung’s inheritance tax… We call ourselves a developed country, yet our bullet trains can’t even match China’s speed?
除了泡菜和偶像,我们还能剩下什么?中国在大力发展5G、人工智能和空间站,我们却还在争论三星太子的遗产税……我们自称是发达国家,可我们的高铁速度连中国都比不上?
@kebbbbbbbb
LOL, Koreans keep bragging about their high GDP per capita, but young people are desperate to land civil servant jobs, with conglomerates controlling the whole country. In China, hustling hard still means a food delivery guy can earn over ten thousand a month—deliver in Korea and you might have to pay Samsung 'protection fees'.
LOL,韩国人总在吹人均GDP多高,可年轻人却拼命想挤进公务员队伍,大企业掌控着整个国家。在中国,只要努力工作,跑外卖的小哥一个月都能挣上万——在韩国送外卖,可能还得交给三星‘保护费’。”
@Key_Credit_525
start to sell weapons to Ukraine to help fight for freedom against rusian Nazi occupants and rise both your economy and dignity
开始向乌克兰出售武器,帮助他们为自由而对抗俄罗斯纳粹占领者,同时提升你们的经济和尊严。
@Dangerous_Ear_2240
JAPAN VERSION : TOYOTA, NINTENDO, WEAK YEN
日本版:丰田、任天堂、疲软的日元
@IamNerdAsian
I’d say japan is more screwed than korean economy, add the demographic problem as the cream
我觉得日本比韩国经济更惨,再加上人口问题就更雪上加霜了。
@DaimonHans
Same goes for Taiwan, Japan, and the US.
台湾(地区)、日本和美国也是一样的。
@GhostCouncil_
Pistachios are putting in WORK
开心果真是拼了命地干活啊
@Work_Federal
Doesn't look so different from other countries. What's your point?
看起来和其他国家也没啥区别啊,你想表达啥?
@Technical_Watch_5580
Every country is complaining.
每个国家都在抱怨。
@gregzillaman
Hey at least korea has a couple companies. The US just has one giant NVIDIA / S&P 500 circle jerk going on.
至少韩国还有好几家公司,美国现在就剩一个巨大的 NVIDIA/S&P 500 (注:老黄的显卡公司/ 标普500 )自嗨循环。
@Only_Statistician_21
Korean economy is far more concentrated in a few corporations than the US.
韩国经济的集中程度比美国高得多,主要掌握在少数几家公司手里。
@Optischlong
Silicon Valley and Wall St are both ponzi schemes. $38T debt and US citizens cant get affordable healthcare. Billions upon billions are sent to Israel.
硅谷和华尔街都是庞氏骗局。美国有38万亿美元的债务,老百姓却负担不起医疗。成百上千亿美元被送到以色列。
@kazee82
Are you seriously trying to compare the Korean economy with Americas? We do have affordable Healthcare. I can tell you literally know nothing about America except for what you hear on Social media or reddit. Now go clean up your room before mommy comes home
你是认真的吗,竟然想把韩国经济跟美国比? 我们可是有负担得起的医疗。看得出来你对美国一窍不通,只是听社交媒体或 Reddit 上说的。快去收拾房间吧,免得你妈回家看到。
@Optischlong
Make Israel Great Again bwhahahahahaha
让以色列再次伟大,哈哈哈哈哈哈
@Tobipig
I like to bash on some Americans for bootlicking politicians or billionaires, but saying that the S&P 500 is a ponzi scheme is an insane take.
我有时会吐槽一些美国人拍政治人物或富豪的马屁,但说标普500是庞氏骗局,这想法也太离谱了。
@RevolutionaryBar7400
Frankly, which country's economy does not rely on large corporations unless they don't have one
坦白说,哪个国家的经济不是依赖大企业的?除非它根本就没有大企业。
@March_Six
So idk why the korean left wing keeps giving shit to major corporations and the families behidn them.
我不知道为什么韩国的左翼一直在针对大企业和背后的那些家族。
@RevolutionaryBar7400
If you're not just randomly ranting on any comment but genuinely curious about why left wing keeps giving shits on large corporations, the thing is, they indeed have done some shitty things.
If you're interested in what kind of things they have done so far, you can check it on the internet, just make sure you get information from legit media. There is simply not enough space to write it down here, and you can imagine the complexity of any dispute that involves cooperation, labor, and government.
Do I think it is morally wrong that korean large corporations are getting shits from left wing while korean economy rely heavily on them? Not really, they have done some bad things as I have mentioned, but I do agree that they did get a bit more shit than they deserve it.
Another thing is that, chaebols do own quite a lot -- almost everything in korea, and one can argue their success were only achieved because they were heavily subsidized by the previous governments, and this is somewhat true also.
So it's a complicated thing...
TL;DR: while not all the shit they got can be justified, but they indeed deserved some shits from left wing.
如果你不是随便在评论里发牢骚,而是真的好奇为什么左翼一直批大企业,原因是这些企业确实做过一些很糟糕的事。
如果你想知道他们到底做过什么,可以自己去网上查,但一定要看靠谱的媒体报道。这里没法详细写出来,而且涉及企业、劳工和政府的纠纷都很复杂。
我觉得韩国大企业在韩国经济高度依赖它们的情况下被左翼批,是不是道德上不对?我不这么认为——他们的确做过坏事,但可能也被骂得比应得的多了一点。
还有一点,财阀在韩国几乎什么都占有,他们的成功有人说是因为过去政府给了大量补贴,这也有一定道理。
所以,这事很复杂……
总结:虽然他们被批的部分可能没完全合理,但确实有些批评是他们应得的。
@BortcornsFourJezus
Don't forget - - The chaebol families collaborated with Japan back in the day
别忘了——当年那些财阀家族可是和日本合作过的。
@ovcdev7
Mitsubishi built planes that bombed Asia. GM engines drove the German war machine. IBM cataloged Holocaust victims. Fanta is literally Nazi juice.
Corporate collaboration with evil regimes is the rule, not the exception.
三菱造过轰炸亚洲的飞机,通用的发动机推动过德国的战争机器,IBM帮忙登记过大屠杀的受害者,芬达其实就是纳粹汽水。
企业和邪恶政权合作,几乎是常态,不是例外。
@BortcornsFourJezus
Didn't say otherwise. But what makes this one different is that the new government, riding a wave of anti-colonial sentiment on the peninsula, happily worked with the chaebol families and elevated them. The chaebol weren't yet the chaebol. They were given super cheap access to former Japanese assets while also getting subsidies from the US government.
These assets could have been distributed any number of ways, to any various people or entities. It was a conscious choice to elevate collaborator families.
Not surprising now that I know what Rhee did to striking workers in Jeju
我没说不一样。不过这次特别的是,新政府借着半岛上的反殖民情绪,乐意跟那些财阀家族合作,还把他们捧了起来。当时这些财阀还没形成规模,他们以超低价拿到前日本资产,还从美国政府拿到了补贴。
这些资产本来可以用很多方式分配给不同的人或机构,但政府是有意选择扶持那些曾经合作过的家族。
在知道李承晚当年在济州对罢工工人的所作所为之后,这就一点也不奇怪了。
@Fuzzy_Advance_9658
this is false?
historically, the People Power Party (right wing/conservative party of South Korea) has advocated for pro-business policies, deregulation, lower taxes, and economic growth driven by large corporations. They are viewed as having closer ties to the business elites and the establishment.
while the Democratic party focuses on "economic democratization," labor rights, and increasing regulations on chaebols to reduce their economic dominance. They often campaign on reforming the corporate governance of these conglomerates
这是真的假的?
从历史上看,韩国的国民力量党(右翼/保守党)一直主张亲商政策、放松监管、降低税收,并推动由大企业带动的经济增长。他们被认为与商业精英和既有权力结构关系更密切。
而民主党则更注重“经济民主化”、劳工权益,并加强对财阀的监管,以减少它们的经济垄断。他们常以改革这些大企业的公司治理为竞选主张。
@BortcornsFourJezus
The chaebol families were given their positions by the US government. They chose people who had previously collaborated with Japanese colonizers
财阀家族的地位是美国政府给的,他们挑的是以前跟日本殖民者合作过的人。
@Long_Tackle_6931
Not true. Look at Australia. People genuinely wealthy even restaurant waiters save hundreds of thousands usd
不对啊,你看看澳大利亚。那儿的人真有钱,连餐厅的服务员都能攒下几十万美元。
@OP
Mining industry.
采矿业。
@Long_Tackle_6931
Nope. That’s a shallow view. You think Melbourne mines?
不对,那想法太肤浅了。你觉得墨尔本有矿吗?
@max38576
Yes, but we must not allow corporations with money and power to manipulate and hijack the government; instead, they must operate under government oversight.
是的,但我们不能让有钱有势的公司操纵和控制政府,而是要让它们在政府监管下运作。
@Just-kiddin-0123
Well, China's largest corporations are mostly state-owned, so idk about that.
嗯,中国最大的公司大多是国有的,所以这个我就不太确定了。
@buttnugchug
BTS and Kpop
防弹少年团和韩流音乐
@New-Prior1978
Don’t forget K-beauty!
别忘了还有韩妆!
@Soldat_wazer
There’s a lot of other companies lol. Like hanwa which is a major military contractor and makes korea the 8th biggest exporter of weapons in the world
还有很多其他公司啊,哈哈。比如韩华,它是个主要的军工承包商,让韩国成为世界第八大武器出口国。
@OP
I think the point of this meme is the Dubai Chewy Cookies lol
我觉得这个梗的重点是迪拜软曲奇,lol。
@Single-Head5135
But are they weapons-grade Cookies?
但它们是武器级的饼干吗?
@Lem0n_Lem0n
He trying his very best ok..
他已经尽力了,好吗。
@zeke714
Hanwha and Hyundai. I think 8th is too low for South Korea in terms of military exporter last year.
韩华和现代。我觉得去年韩国军售出口排名第八有点太低了。
@Soldat_wazer
It’s not that surprising, a lot of European countries have a strong weapons manufacturing sector which pushes Korea lower
这不太让人意外,很多欧洲国家的武器制造业很强,这就让韩国的排名往下降了。
@zeke714
Record exports, Record KOSPI, Record tourism. Way better than Yoon and Trump.
出口创纪录,股市创纪录,旅游创纪录。比尹锡悦和特朗普好多了。
@zeke714
This on top of Yoon's martial law and Lee Jae-myung first 6 months in office as President.
再加上尹的戒严令和李在明当总统头六个月的情况。
@AppropriateMess2523
its thanks to the semiconductor supercycle, not LJM. leftists are fucking delusional
这都归功于半导体超级周期,跟 LJM 没关系。左派真是脑子有病。
@zeke714
Right wing are spineless US bootlicking CIA pawns who almost destroyed democracy in Korea but leftists are the bad guys for preventing their coup? Exports such as military hardware, food, etc is all at record highs.
右翼就是些没骨气、拍美国马屁的CIA棋子,几乎把韩国的民主毁了,可阻止他们政变的反而成了“坏人”?军火、食品等出口现在都创了历史新高。
@Dactylic126
Oh my!
Didn’t know LJM designed and engineered all those chips and weapons! And he was the producer of Kpop demon hunters on top of it?
I’d be damned, he sounds amazing! Bet his aura alone makes people copulate harder.
Does he have a pet tiger and a bird perchance?
欧买嘎!
我还真不知道 LJM 设计并打造了那些芯片和武器!而且他还是“Kpop恶魔猎人”的制作人?
厉害啊,他听起来太牛了!我打赌光是他的气场就能让人更卖力地“亲热”。
他是不是还有只老虎宠物和一只鸟啊?
@mrjcseo
let me guess you would say economic partner is with China whereas security is with USA bullshit
让我猜猜,你会说经济上跟中国合作,安全上跟美国合作——之类的扯淡。
@zeke714
Economically, South Korea should trade with everyone as with any country. For national security, South Korea shouldn't rely on a foreign military just so it can dragged into a proxy war with China by the US. President Lee recently renewed ties with China and the North Korean threat isn't real as shown by Yoon's drone strike into Pyeongyang. North Korea responded by blowing up a route near the DMZ signalling that North Korea does not want to engage in conflict with the South.
从经济上看,韩国应该像对待任何国家一样,与所有国家进行贸易。
在国家安全方面,韩国不该依赖外国军队,否则可能会被美国拖进与中国的代理战争。
李总统最近恢复了与中国的关系,而尹总统对平壤的无人机袭击也表明,朝鲜威胁并不真实。
朝鲜随后炸毁了接近非军事区的一条路线,释放出不想与韩国发生冲突的信号。
@VeritasNeo
Yea, record KRW depreciation and government debt.
是啊,韩元创纪录的贬值,还有政府债务。
@matronmotheroflolth
So that’s why they call it the Samsung Republic.
所以这就是他们叫它“三星共和国”的原因。
@Adorable-Thing2551
Yeah but you would want to live there, trust me. Life's Good there.
是啊,不过你肯定会想住在那里,相信我。那里的生活很不错。
@heickelrrx
Life good is LG
生活美好就是LG。
@Adorable-Thing2551
(Congratulations, you figured out the joke)
恭喜,你懂这个笑话了。
@lapsaptrash
The big boss of Samsung has been mia in a hospital for years and for all we know he already died. However due to inheritance laws it will cause a major economic disaster so everyone including the government keeping a blind eye to the situation.
三星的大老板已经在医院消失好几年了,说不定早就去世了。不过因为继承法的关系,一旦公开会引发严重的经济危机,所以大家包括政府都装作没看见。
@Aggressive-Hawk9186
I'm glad I already bought my Galaxy S25U before Samsung goes to ship lol
我很庆幸在三星发货之前就已经买了我的 Galaxy S25U,哈哈。
@rodon
How about that Dubai Chewy Cookie tho?
那迪拜的嚼劲饼干怎么样啊
@FilipinoAirlines
Yeh, why did the korean airport i went to able to sell me dubai chocolates? They have partnerships?
嗯,为什么我去的那个韩国机场能卖给我迪拜的巧克力?他们有合作关系吗?
@2kokuoyabun
a bit harsh
有点苛刻
@United_Will_7981
A dessert pillar next to semiconductors… yeah that’s very Korea lol.
甜点能和半导体并列支柱产业……这也太韩国了哈哈。
@United_Will_7981
Samsung and Hynix make sense, but why the hell is there a cookie?
三星和海力士我能理解,但为啥还有个饼干啊?
@Adorable-Thing2551
https://www.reddit.com/r/KoreanFood/comments/1qcyn8j/have_you_heard_of_dubai_chewy_cookies/
(关于迪拜软曲奇的链接)
@United_Will_7981
That’s literally the point. Korea’s economy latches way too easily onto whatever suddenly sells well.
这就是说重点。韩国经济太容易一头扎进一时火的东西。
@United_Will_7981
f Samsung or SK even wobble a bit, the stock market and exchange rate react before the official stats do
如果三星或SK稍微有点动摇,股市和汇率会比官方数据先做出反应。
@United_Will_7981
This isn’t really mocking Korea, it’s more like a visual summary of the risk
这并不是在嘲笑韩国,更像是对风险的一个形象化总结。
@United_Will_7981
The reason this hits so hard is because deep down everyone’s uneasy about it
之所以让人触动,是因为其实大家心里都挺不安的。
@kdu5578
Korean economy? Oh, that 'developed country' that brags when semiconductor prices are up and cries when they’re down~ While China is upgrading its manufacturing industry, South Korea’s still debating how much extra defense funding they should hand over to the U.S., hehe.
韩国经济?哦,就是那个半导体涨价时拼命吹嘘,跌价时痛哭的‘发达国家’~中国在升级制造业,韩国却在讨论该多给美国多少军费,呵呵。
@Irritated
Stop talking about the Miracle on the Han River! Now Chinese phones, cars, and batteries are crushing Korea across the board—even Korean drama special effects are made by Chinese studios! Wake up, all you’ve got left is plastic surgery and boy/girl groups!
别再说什么汉江奇迹了!现在中国的手机、汽车和电池在各个方面碾压韩国——连韩国电视剧的特效都是中国公司制作的!醒醒吧,韩国只剩下整容和男女偶像团体了!
@Embarrassed_Escape93
Hyundai, Hanwha, KIA, LG, KPOP, etc...
现代、韩华、起亚、LG、韩流等等…
@ufozhou
Hyundai???
Car, ship and military
现代???
汽车、船,还有军工。
@AppropriateMess2523
its basically hynix and samsung thats propping up KOSPI, yet leftists think that this is thanks to the government lol
基本上就是靠海力士和三星在撑着KOSPI,可还有左派觉得这是政府的功劳,笑死。
@Sickofit_3136
too accurate ngl
太准确了,真的。
@Danncoop194
Even SK Hynix Chairman Chey Tae-won is warning Korea could see negative growth.
KCCI chief warns Korea's growth is losing steam, urges policy shift
https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10657671
就连SK海力士董事长崔泰源也警告,韩国可能会出现负增长。
韩国商工会议所会长提醒韩国的增长正在失速,并呼吁调整政策。
@Fearless_Push_4227
Naw, Korea is doing perfectly fine compared to other nations. I would even say Korea is peaking. The life of average citizens, however, sucks at this moment due to the war. Though it sucks alot more for other developed nations.
不,我觉得韩国和其他国家比起来挺好的,甚至可以说是巅峰期。不过普通老百姓的生活现在确实挺糟的,因为战争的关系。不过相比其他发达国家,韩国的情况还算好一些。
@IamNerdAsian
Which war?
哪场战争?
@Azsolus
Dubai chewy cookie ?
迪拜的那种嚼劲饼干吗?
@Norman_n
whats dubai chewy cookie?
迪拜的软曲奇是什么?
@heickelrrx
I thought samsung run korea economy as whole
我还以为三星撑起了整个韩国经济呢。
@perspective
South Korea still bragging about Samsung and Hyundai? Look, Chinese new energy cars have already made it to Europe. Who buys Korean EVs besides Koreans themselves? K-pop might be hot, but it won’t save the economy—once semiconductors crash, it’s game over. This economic structure is way too fragile
韩国还在吹嘘三星和现代吗?看看,中国的新能源车已经进入欧洲市场了。除了韩国人自己,谁会去买韩国的电动车?K-pop或许火爆,但拯救不了经济——一旦芯片价格崩盘,就彻底凉了。这种经济结构太脆弱了 (笑哭)
@kknc l4
Sigh, what do we have left besides kimchi and idols? While China is pushing ahead with 5G, AI, and space stations, we’re still arguing over the crown prince of Samsung’s inheritance tax… We call ourselves a developed country, yet our bullet trains can’t even match China’s speed?
除了泡菜和偶像,我们还能剩下什么?中国在大力发展5G、人工智能和空间站,我们却还在争论三星太子的遗产税……我们自称是发达国家,可我们的高铁速度连中国都比不上?
@kebbbbbbbb
LOL, Koreans keep bragging about their high GDP per capita, but young people are desperate to land civil servant jobs, with conglomerates controlling the whole country. In China, hustling hard still means a food delivery guy can earn over ten thousand a month—deliver in Korea and you might have to pay Samsung 'protection fees'.
LOL,韩国人总在吹人均GDP多高,可年轻人却拼命想挤进公务员队伍,大企业掌控着整个国家。在中国,只要努力工作,跑外卖的小哥一个月都能挣上万——在韩国送外卖,可能还得交给三星‘保护费’。”
@Key_Credit_525
start to sell weapons to Ukraine to help fight for freedom against rusian Nazi occupants and rise both your economy and dignity
开始向乌克兰出售武器,帮助他们为自由而对抗俄罗斯纳粹占领者,同时提升你们的经济和尊严。
@Dangerous_Ear_2240
JAPAN VERSION : TOYOTA, NINTENDO, WEAK YEN
日本版:丰田、任天堂、疲软的日元
@IamNerdAsian
I’d say japan is more screwed than korean economy, add the demographic problem as the cream
我觉得日本比韩国经济更惨,再加上人口问题就更雪上加霜了。
@DaimonHans
Same goes for Taiwan, Japan, and the US.
台湾(地区)、日本和美国也是一样的。
@GhostCouncil_
Pistachios are putting in WORK
开心果真是拼了命地干活啊
@Work_Federal
Doesn't look so different from other countries. What's your point?
看起来和其他国家也没啥区别啊,你想表达啥?
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