美国专业汽车节目直播拆解比亚迪五合一电机
正文翻译
In this episode, we take a deep dive into the innovative design of the BYD iDM-210 Drive Unit, featuring key components supplied by BorgWarner, and explore how its compact packaging reflects a relentless focus on performance and efficiency.
在本集中，我们将深入探讨比亚迪 iDM-210 驱动单元的创新设计，该单元的关键组件由博格华纳提供，并探索其紧凑的封装如何体现了对性能和效率的不懈追求。
The Munro Live team breaks down how BYD engineering goes beyond individual parts by embracing a truly holistic design philosophy. Every component is carefully integrated and optimized to function seamlessly within the overall system, maximizing power density, reducing weight, and improving energy efficiency. With contributions from suppliers like BorgWarner, the result is a tightly packaged, high performance solution that showcases what is possible when design and engineering work in complete harmony.
Munro Live 团队深入剖析了比亚迪的工程技术如何超越单个部件的简单组合，真正践行整体设计理念。每个组件都经过精心集成和优化，与整个系统无缝协作，从而最大限度地提高功率密度、减轻重量并提升能源效率。在博格华纳等供应商的鼎力支持下，最终打造出这款紧凑高效的解决方案，充分展现了设计与工程完美融合所能达到的极致效果。
This level of integrated thinking has major implications for the broader automotive industry. As electric vehicles continue to evolve, achieving higher efficiency, lighter architectures, and smarter packaging will be critical. BYD approach demonstrates how thoughtful integration and strong supplier collaboration can unlock the next generation of electric vehicle performance and scalability.
这种高度整合的思维方式对整个汽车行业具有重大意义。随着电动汽车的不断发展，实现更高的效率、更轻的架构和更智能的封装至关重要。比亚迪的案例表明，周密的整合和强大的供应商合作能够释放下一代电动汽车的性能和可扩展性潜力。
In this episode, we take a deep dive into the innovative design of the BYD iDM-210 Drive Unit, featuring key components supplied by BorgWarner, and explore how its compact packaging reflects a relentless focus on performance and efficiency.在本集中，我们将深入探讨比亚迪 iDM-210 驱动单元的创新设计，该单元的关键组件由博格华纳提供，并探索其紧凑的封装如何体现了对性能和效率的不懈追求。
The Munro Live team breaks down how BYD engineering goes beyond individual parts by embracing a truly holistic design philosophy. Every component is carefully integrated and optimized to function seamlessly within the overall system, maximizing power density, reducing weight, and improving energy efficiency. With contributions from suppliers like BorgWarner, the result is a tightly packaged, high performance solution that showcases what is possible when design and engineering work in complete harmony.
Munro Live 团队深入剖析了比亚迪的工程技术如何超越单个部件的简单组合，真正践行整体设计理念。每个组件都经过精心集成和优化，与整个系统无缝协作，从而最大限度地提高功率密度、减轻重量并提升能源效率。在博格华纳等供应商的鼎力支持下，最终打造出这款紧凑高效的解决方案，充分展现了设计与工程完美融合所能达到的极致效果。
This level of integrated thinking has major implications for the broader automotive industry. As electric vehicles continue to evolve, achieving higher efficiency, lighter architectures, and smarter packaging will be critical. BYD approach demonstrates how thoughtful integration and strong supplier collaboration can unlock the next generation of electric vehicle performance and scalability.
这种高度整合的思维方式对整个汽车行业具有重大意义。随着电动汽车的不断发展，实现更高的效率、更轻的架构和更智能的封装至关重要。比亚迪的案例表明，周密的整合和强大的供应商合作能够释放下一代电动汽车的性能和可扩展性潜力。
评论翻译
@rogue6
FINALLY getting back to tear-down videos. SO much better than the videos lately that are just promotions for other companies.
终于回到拆解视频了。比最近那些只是在推广其他公司的视频好多了。
@Enonymouse_
Don't be so sure that this is not a paid for promotion, BYD's reputation within China is terrible.
别太确定这不是付费推广，比亚迪在中国的声誉很差。
@deltajohnny
@Enonymouse_ here in Spain I am very happy with my BYD and the other owners who are on the forums also
@Enonymouse_ 我在西班牙对我的比亚迪很满意，论坛上的其他车主也一样。
@jheissjr
@Eno@Enonymouse_ I didn’t keep up with BYD. What issues do they have?
@Eno@Enonymouse_ 我没有关注比亚迪，他们有什么问题？
@Enonymouse_
@jheissjr Aside from build quality, tons of battery fires, lots of them. More than is the norm for any other EV brand build by a western or EU company. The stuff assembled in China has very sus frxs, and BYD within China constantly releases new models with very little change to it. Overall its a dumpster fire built in on a good idea and the perception that everything is fine when its not. Their government uses this to tout its green vehicle position when that position is build on fake stats. I don't know how BYD holds up for real (from people who aren't simps - paid or otherwise) outside of China.
除了制造质量之外，还有很多电池起火，数量比任何西方或欧盟公司制造的其他电动汽车品牌都要多。中国组装的车架非常可疑，比亚迪在中国内地不断推出新型号，但几乎没有什么变化。
总体来说，这是一个建立在一个好主意上的垃圾场，大家误以为一切正常，实际上并非如此。
他们的政府用这个来吹嘘绿色汽车的位置，而这个位置是建立在虚假的数据上的。我不知道比亚迪在中国外的实际情况如何（从不偏袒的人——无论是付费的还是其他）。
@deltajohnny
@Enonymouse_ Not true. New BYD LFP batteries do not explode, burn, etc
不对。新的比亚迪LFP电池不会爆炸、起火等。
译注：LFP指磷酸铁锂电池
@ricardosy5247
It's a tear-down, not spying of course. The West will reverse -engineer but that's allowed, we in the West do not steal China's technology. There's no such thing.
这只是拆解视频，不是间谍行为。当然，西方会进行逆向工程，但这是允许的，我们西方不会偷取中国的技术。根本没有这种事。
@dugang139
@Enonymouse_ TROLL
网络喷子
@rolandohiebert2144
@Enonymouse_I've driven a shark and it was great. I also know a few people who have had one for about half a year now who haven't had issues. I actually haven't seen or heard of any byd ev fires since they switched to the lfp blade batteries. Chinese vehicles are becoming dominant in my area anyway and seem to just be better made than most other places stuff now.
我开过一辆比亚迪鲨鱼，很棒。我还知道一些已经拥有半年左右的车主，他们没有遇到问题。
我实际上自从比亚迪换用LFP刀片电池以来，没见过或听说过比亚迪电动汽车起火。
反正中国车在我这儿变得越来越主导，而且似乎做工比其他地方的车好多了。
@randomsmarts3977
On the screw issue, the 100 screws of the inverter. There is a lot of radio frequency inside the inverter that you do not want leaking out. The long interface edges between the housing and the covers can act like a slot antennas at higher frequencies. Using a lot of closely space screws to attach the covers to the housing can ruin the slot antenna action preventing leakage of the RFI. Even though the inverter runs at relatively low frequencies, the wave shape is sharp and has very strong energy up into the 100's of MHZ. So, it's not a mechanical consideration it's an electric consideration.
关于螺丝问题，逆变器的100颗螺丝。逆变器内部有很多射频信号，你不希望它们泄露出去。外壳与覆盖物之间的长接口边缘在较高频率下可能像槽天线一样工作。
使用很多紧密排列的螺丝将覆盖物固定到外壳上，可以破坏槽天线的作用，防止射频干扰泄漏。
尽管逆变器运行在相对较低的频率，但波形尖锐，能量非常强，甚至可达到100MHz以上。因此，这不仅仅是机械问题，更是电气问题。
@ligius3
True, but there are other ways to solve this. You can use shielding gaskets, you can have tabs that hook up the top and bottom, springs or stakes, design shielding boxes in your stamping or casting, etc. Paul is right, this is mechanical design done by EEs, I'm also an EE. Screws are used in stationary equipment to prevent board bend and also provide grounding, but using it in automotive is asking for trouble, both electrically and mechanically.
确实，但还有其他解决方法。你可以使用屏蔽垫圈，也可以设计连接上下的标签、弹簧或桩，或者在冲压或铸造过程中设计屏蔽箱等。
Paul说得对，这是由电子工程师进行的机械设计，我也是电子工程师。
螺丝用于固定设备，防止电路板弯曲，并提供接地，但在汽车中使用螺丝会带来麻烦，无论是电气上还是机械上。
@crasho1980
@ligius3
Sound like your solution is more over engineered
So people that does not involve in the production process try to nitpick people that actually design and producing the products
听起来你的解决方案过于复杂了
所以那些不参与生产过程的人开始挑剔那些真正设计和生产产品的人。
@killerhurtalot
@ligius3 So... instead of a bunch replaceable screws... you want to design shielding gaskets, interlocking tabs, springs, and shielding boxes into the casing???
You sound german, making everything way more complicated than it needs to be and basically unrepairable...
所以... 你是想要设计屏蔽垫圈、互锁卡扣、弹簧和屏蔽箱到外壳里，而不是使用一堆可以更换的螺丝吗？？
你听起来像德国人，把一切弄得比需要的更复杂，基本上是不可修复的...
@wtmayhew
I feel confident a group costed this out and found threaded fasteners plus installation labor was the lowest cost solution. RF conductive gasketing material is pretty expensive, is fragile and requires finicky alignment. Screws are inexpensive and need minimal training to install. Perhaps even an assembly robot can install the screws.
我很有信心一个小组已经估算过这个，并发现螺纹紧固件加上安装人工是最低成本的解决方案。射频导电垫圈材料相当贵，且脆弱，需要精确对准。螺丝便宜，且安装时几乎不需要什么培训。也许甚至可以用装配机器人来安装螺丝。
@501Bravo
@killerhurtalot See above...
Stamping a tabbed metal gasket is *far* simpler, cheaper and quicker than drilling and tapping 100 holes, plus the machine time and material to form 100 screws.
And, that's not even counting assembly time.
冲压带标签的金属垫圈远比钻孔和攻丝100个孔简单、便宜且快捷，另外还要算上机器时间和制造100个螺丝的材料费用。
而且这还没算上组装时间。
@ligius3
@killerhurtalot I was just giving examples, you could choose EITHER of those, no need to do all. It was a response to "we can only do it with screws"
我只是给了几个例子，你可以选择其中任何一个，不必做所有。那是对“我们只能用螺丝”的回应。
@lyrebirdcyclesmarkkelly9874
Yes. The Fourier transform of a low frequency square wave is a series of increasingly high frequency sine waves, so RF becomes important even if the switching frequency itself isn't a problem.
是的，低频方波的傅里叶变换是一系列越来越高频的正弦波，因此即使开关频率本身不是问题，射频也变得很重要。
@-szega
@wtmayhew these are installed by machines. They've been talking about OEMs using too many screws in inverters and batteries since forever but realistically if all OEMs keep doing it maybe they have a good reason and maybe it's not the big cost factor these guys think it is.
这些是由机器人安装的。从很久以前开始，人们就一直在讨论原始设备制造商在逆变器和电池中使用过多的螺丝，但实际上，如果所有原始设备制造商都这样做，也许他们有一个合理的理由，也许这不是这些人认为的那样大成本因素。
@grisflyt
I believe you talk about pulse-width modulation. I don't know what frequencies are used in EVs. Typical motor controllers switch at no more than 15kHz. But it's 100% harmonic distortion and noise may reach 100s of kHz. The 15kHz is problematic enough. It puts out so much noise that it can "kill" your broadband connection. It can also trip earth-leakage circuit breakers. Special, shielded cables are used. As well as filters. Those are usually as large as the inverter itself and much heavier. Think a large transformer. PWM can be bad for the motor as well. The higher the carrier frequency, the better.
我相信你说的是脉宽调制。我不知道电动汽车使用什么频率。典型的电机控制器切换频率不超过15kHz。但是它是100%的谐波失真，噪声可能达到几百kHz。15kHz已经足够成问题了。
它发出的噪声如此之大，以至于可以“杀死”你的宽带连接。它还可能触发漏电断路器。
使用了特殊的屏蔽电缆以及过滤器。这些通常和逆变器本身一样大，而且要重得多。想象一个大变压器。脉宽调制对电机也不好。载波频率越高越好。
@weinixiong8964
ECM reduction and copper screws
ECM减少和铜螺丝
@marafones
interesting note
有趣的观点
@ryandoyle4344
Could dowels not be substituted for some of the screws?
是否可以用木钉代替一些螺丝？
@terrygiven8789
@wtmayhew came here to say this
我来这里就是为了说这个
@maxtorque2277
the inverters "thin stamped lid" you like so much FORCES you to use a 'short spaced' method to attach said lid to the main enclosure! You can use less fixings if the lid was cast, but the cost of screws is irrelevant, and as they are all put in and tightened at once with a screw placing jig / robot, it's takes the same time to do up 100 as to do up 1. There are other methods, from glue to spring clips to lazer welding, but what you find is the design, dev and critically VALIDATION of such process costs more than just using the screws. The final point is screws allow rework. During dev these inverters undergo a LOT of testing (i've spent years of my life designing and running high performance electrical machine tests for OEMs) and undergo lots of reqork, revisions, and instrumentation fit outs. Having screws means you can do ALL that AND validate the production sealing solution at the same time. Otherwise, you have a dev set of hardware and a Proddy set of hardware, which means you have to then do lots of expensive late-on testing of the proddy sealing solution after you have finished a lot of the basic functional and performance testing. This adds huge cost and time delays to the program. Suddenly the cost of lots of screws (lets charitably say $5 per inverter, but it's less than this at volume) doesn't seem too bad.
你喜欢的逆变器“薄冲压盖”迫使你使用“短间距”方法将盖子固定到主外壳上！如果盖子是铸造的，可以用更少的固定件，但螺丝的成本无关紧要，而且所有螺丝都是一次性放入并用螺丝放置夹具/机器人拧紧的，安装100个螺丝所需的时间和安装1个螺丝是一样的。
还有其他方法，从胶水到弹簧夹到激光焊接，但你会发现，设计、开发和关键的过程验证成本比只用螺丝更高。最后一点是螺丝允许返工。在开发过程中，这些逆变器会进行大量测试（我花了很多年设计和运行OEM的高性能电机测试），并进行大量的返工、修订和仪器安装。使用螺丝意味着你可以完成所有这些工作，同时验证生产封装解决方案。
否则，你就有一套开发硬件和一套生产硬件，这意味着你在完成很多基本功能和性能测试后，还得做大量昂贵的后期测试。这会给项目带来巨大的成本和时间延迟。突然间，很多螺丝的成本（我们姑且说每个逆变器5美元，但大批量时更便宜）看起来就不那么糟糕了。
@andrewbritten
@maxtorque2277 You did mention spring clips, though. That would seem logical, even during development wouldn't it? But then, would they present noise problems?
你确实提到了弹簧夹，这在开发阶段似乎是合理的，不是吗？但是，这样会不会带来噪声问题呢？
@seymorefact4333
Dude keeps saying the DESIGN is great for the Chinese MARKET...but, wouldn't recommend for the US EU market? AT 23:00. IF it works well in China...why wouldn't it work well EVERYWHERE? COST is to high for AMERICAN CONSUMERS? US manufactures are to CHEAP? PROFITS from endless repairs from the west? EXplaIN YOURSELF!
那个人一直说这个设计适合中国市场……但是不推荐给美国和欧洲市场？在23:00时。如果它在中国好用……为什么在其他地方就不好用呢？美国消费者觉得价格太高？美国制造商太便宜了？是西方的无尽维修带来了利润？解释一下！
@tv-ld3wv
@seymorefact4333
That question has to be asked for the Chinese customers, why do they buy a product when they know well it's less reliable, A,B,C pillars are extremely light and cheap, and the pack itself is extremely thin and light that when road imperfections hit the pack, the Chinese cars engulfed by fire pretty easily
All Chinese customers know more than that but they accept that
这个问题必须问问中国消费者，为什么他们明明知道这个产品不可靠，A、B、C柱极其轻便便宜，而电池包本身非常薄而轻，当遇到路面不平时，汽车很容易着火
所有中国消费者比这知道得更多，但他们接受这一点。
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
@seymorefact4333 Protecting industrial waste from the American mainland is a priority for interest groups.
保护美国本土的工业废物是利益集团的优先任务。
@davidhoang6360
Why western built short lifespan cost more than byd?
为什么西方制造的短寿命产品比比亚迪的更贵？
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
They impose high tariffs on imported cars.
他们对进口汽车施加了高额关税
@SetMyLife
@davidhoang6360I think a combination of lots of regulations, bureucracy, wages.
我认为是很多法规、官僚主义和工资的结合。
@bhayes058
he said it was because China has more ready access to rare earth materials. Which was a reasonable part of trade which has recently been destroyed for a while .@seymorefact4333
他说是因为中国更容易获得稀土材料。这是原本是贸易中合理的一部分，最近一段时间已经被破坏了。
@andrewrobbins4657
@seymorefact4333it’s a material sourcing issue. China has the best raw materials for high end high performance magnets in the world. Thus it’s not very expensive for them to make really high end magnets. However for a US company the supply chain to get the same high end magnets is much more painful, expensive, and risky. If a US company can only get the magnets they need from China then they have huge supply chain risk if the material flow were to be stopped from China for any reason
这是一个材料采购问题。中国拥有世界上最好的高端高性能磁铁原材料。因此，他们制造高端磁铁并不昂贵。然而，对于美国公司来说，获取同样高端磁铁的供应链则更加痛苦、昂贵且风险更大。
如果美国公司只能从中国获得它们需要的磁铁，那么一旦因为任何原因停止从中国的材料流动，他们就面临巨大的供应链风险。
@彷徨小鸡
In fact, oil-cooled motors are already very common in the Chinese market, and BYD uses them in its high-snd products. Rotor cooling only occurs in some high-performance products.
事实上，油冷电机在中国市场已经非常常见，比亚迪在其高端产品中使用了它们。转子冷却仅出现在一些高性能产品中。
@iambenmitchell
Finally, a tear down video! This is what I subscribed for… not $7,000 stove advertisements.
Edit: to be clear, I appreciate everything you guys do. You gotta fund these teardowns somehow, I get that. But the barrage of what are pretty much back to back advertisements was starting to get old
终于有拆解视频了！这就是我订阅的原因…不是那些7,000美元的炉子广告。
编辑：要明确的是，我感谢你们所做的一切。你们必须以某种方式为这些拆解视频融资，我明白。但是连续不断的广告让我有点厌倦了。
@slartybartfarst9737
Always appreciate Pauls insight. Not needing cooling on China motor rotors due to the availability of Diprosium and Turbium which withstand high heat is gold dust! I engineered 44 years in big auto world wide and you always knew when you were talking with a true expert as not only would they know the technology but the geographic and even social influences of any design, I always found it fascinating taking geographic and social aspects into my own designs made for a better outcome.
Back to today running my from new in 2014 Tesla Mode S P85 here in the UK Ive just fitted a coolent dexe on the LDU (Tesla Large Drive Unit ) as we know rotor cooling leak is an Achilles heel on the LDU but here in UK we have no Death Valley or long high speed runs and faced with coolant in the inverter due the motor shaft coolant seal failure its best to remove the rotor cooling so allowing for th geographic (no high speeds) and social (theres a support structure of home and 3rd party repaires/mods) plus it being an induction motor there are no magnets to cook theres a design path for these motors to keep on working, thanks Paul ill sleep at night!
总是很欣赏Paul的见解。由于稀土磁体在高温下的耐受性，不需要对中国电机转子进行冷却，这真是无价之宝！我在全球汽车行业工程设计中已经有44年的经验，你总是能知道何时和真正的专家交谈，因为他们不仅了解技术，还会知道任何设计的地理和社会影响。我总是觉得将地理和社会因素融入自己的设计中会得到更好的结果。
回到今天，我在英国驾驶着2014年的特斯拉Model S P85，我刚刚在LDU（特斯拉大驱动单元）上安装了冷却液补丁（我们知道转子冷却泄漏是LDU的阿基琉斯之踵），但在英国，我们没有死亡谷或长时间高速行驶，而且由于电机轴冷却密封故障，逆变器中的冷却液泄漏，所以最好去除转子冷却，这样可以考虑到地理因素（没有高速）和社会因素（有本地和第三方维修/改装支持结构），而且它是感应电机，没有磁铁会被过热，这些电机有设计路径继续工作，谢谢Paul，我今晚能安心睡觉了！
@rafffe
The simplicity of the inverter surprised me. Few parts and clean design.
逆变器的简单设计让我感到惊讶，部件少且设计简洁。
@seymorefact4333
Dude keeps saying the DESIGN is great for the Chinese MARKET...but, wouldn't recommend for the US EU market? AT 23:00. IF it works well in China...why wouldn't it work well EVERYWHERE? COST is to high for AMERICAN CONSUMERS? US manufactures are to CHEAP? PROFITS from endless repairs from the west? EXplaIN YOURSELF!
这个家伙一直说这个设计适合中国市场…但却不推荐美国和欧盟市场？如果在中国效果很好，为什么在其他地方不好？是因为美国消费者成本太高？美国制造商太便宜了？是西方国家靠维修来获利？解释一下！
@mefobills279
@seymorefact4333I wondered about that too. Lack of rare earth metals maybe? You are more constrained with temperature.
我也在想这个问题。可能是缺少稀土金属？你在温度上会受限。
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
@mefobills279 Protecting industrial waste from the American mainland is a priority for interest groups.
保护来自美国本土的工业废料是利益集团的优先事项。
@randr10
@seymorefact4333 Yes. He explained exactly that in the video. It goes basically this: Rare earths are harder to come by in USDM and EU. They can be had, but it represents a supply chain risk, so try to go with a design that doesn't need them. Sometimes insurance isn't something you buy from an insurance company. This means oil cooling.
是的，他在视频中就解释了这一点，基本意思是：稀土金属在美国和欧盟较难获得。虽然可以获得，但这代表着供应链风险，所以尽量选择不需要这些材料的设计。有时候保险并不是从保险公司购买的，这意味着使用油冷却。
@fallinginthed33p
It looks like a Prius inverter or any other Toyota group hybrid inverter.
它看起来像是普锐斯的逆变器，或者是其他丰田集团混合动力汽车的逆变器。
@Choc_Chilla
Blows my freaking mind how small these power units are.
这些电源单元竟然这么小，真是让我震惊。
@earthwizz
It's not just for the China market, it's for the world market minus the USA. Great to see the tear downs again.
这不仅仅是为中国市场设计的，它是为除美国以外的全球市场设计的。很高兴再次看到拆解视频。
@gpsfinancial6988
It would be nice if drivers in USA had the freedom to access them
如果美国的司机能自由使用这些设备就好了。
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@gpsfinancial6988 In the case of the State Of California which is going all-in on full electrification by 2032, if you saw their electrical infrastructure and the operation of their largest power company, Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E), famous for their rolling blackouts every summer, you may be inclined to rethink that wish...
以加利福尼亚州为例，该州计划到2032年全面实现电气化。如果你看过他们的电力基础设施和最大的电力公司——太平洋煤气电力公司（PG&E）的运营，这家公司每年夏天都以停电著称，你可能会重新考虑这个愿望…
@poxcr
True, the rest of the world is just moving on without them...
确实，世界其他地方都在没有他们的情况下继续前进...
@christophervogelvirginvall5502
Which is interesting since BorgWarner is an American company.
这很有趣，因为博格华纳是美国公司。
@DiedLiu
FINALLY another teardown, I am subscribe for it.
终于又有一个拆解视频了，我已经订阅了。
@litewavve
All car manufacturers should watch this channel, even pay Munro for consulting.
所有汽车制造商都应该观看这个频道，甚至为Munro付费咨询。
@StopTheBurn
The design of the inverter is brilliant! So much power in a compact package! Next level engineering.
逆变器的设计非常出色！在一个紧凑的包装中包含如此强大的功率！下一个级别的工程设计。
@longcimb
Who said Chinese cannot innovate
谁说中国人不能创新？
@anomalysyndrome3235
@longcimb western propaganda for sure.
绝对是西方的宣传。
@akakakakakak3084
@anomalysyndrome3235 I am so sure BYD has stolen the technologies and designs from US, just trust me and you are happy
我敢肯定比亚迪偷了美国的技术和设计，相信我，你会开心的。
@MoiAdventures-op1yj
@2:53, you see "BorgWarner" stamped on the housing.
你可以看到外壳上印有博格华纳
@stevenlee7195
better than Hyundai/KIA for sure with their ICCU failure.
肯定比现代/起亚更好，至少他们的ICCU没有故障。
@Doctorbasss
42:49. I think that the reason WHY they choose to have flexible cables on the 3 phases is also to accomodate one of the electrical contacting process which is the ULTRASONIC WELDING. This process vibrate at many thousands of kHz and create additional mecanical stress during the welding so having a flexible part allow the stress to be damped. They eliminated 3 screw by choosing to not have seperated 3 phases conductors and 6 junctions with screws. But still 6 of them are ultrasonicly welded anyway. The large chunk of copper between the hairpins and the 3 phases conductors are the plate to make easier the ultrasonic welding that require pressure on both sides of the weld. (They can not weld the copper braid strap directly to the hairpins)
我认为他们选择在三相电缆上使用柔性电缆的原因之一，是为了适应电气接触过程中的超声波焊接。这个过程在数千千赫的频率下振动，并在焊接过程中产生额外的机械应力，所以使用柔性部件可以缓解这种应力。
通过选择不使用分开的三相导体和六个带螺钉的接头，他们去掉了三个螺丝。
不过，六个连接点还是通过超声波焊接的。发夹和三相导体之间的大块铜板是为了方便超声波焊接，这要求施加压力在焊接的两侧。（他们无法将铜编织带直接焊接到发夹上）
@mgiblets6616
nice to see the presentation! congrats!
很高兴看到这个展示！恭喜！
@Digwind
Thanks for the video! It would be also very interesting to see the teardown of their 1.5MW flash charging capable cars. And on the opposite spectrum their cheapest cars Atto 1 (Seagull) or Geely EX2 they have ~50-70kW motors the cost cutting there must be to extreme so would be cool to see that as well.
感谢这个视频！看到他们1.5MW闪充能力的车拆解会很有趣。而在另一个极端，他们最便宜的车Atto 1（海鸥）或者吉利EX2拥有大约50-70kW的电机，成本削减一定非常极端，看到那个也会很酷。
@bevbev58
Great unbiased analysis, love it when you guys do that. The "staff" make such great videos.
很棒的无偏分析，我喜欢你们这样做。你们的“员工”制作的这些视频非常棒。
@Godiseenkind
Borgwarner only supplied the simplest component-reducer. The motor and electronic control are BYD's own.
博格华纳仅提供了最简单的组件减速器。电机和电子控制是比亚迪自己的。
@wh3596
Do you know what a Supplier is or a Tool And Die factory is?? I worked for these supplier? They don't design anything, the principal company (BYD) provides the spec and blue prints to the supplier BorgWarner.
你知道什么是供应商或模具工厂吗？我曾在这些供应商工作过。他们不设计任何东西，主要公司（比亚迪）提供规格和蓝图给供应商博格华纳。
@zachlafond2652
I love these type of videos. I'm always amazed at the engineering behind this stuff. Crazy the amt of power you can get out of such a small package.
我喜欢这类视频。我总是对这些东西背后的工程设计感到惊讶。可以从这么小的体积中提取出如此巨大的功率，真是疯狂。
@unclezeppy
That stator explanation made me realize what I did not understand before. Several years ago a supplier of flat copper rails told me about a company that was testing EV motors and had ended up using flexible power cables. The reason was a stator wiring design that was loose!! That did not make any sense to me. He said: “You know, heat, vibration, magnetic fields. In that design you cannot use a solid copper bars, because something has to give.” I’m pretty sure he was talking about BYD for being a Huizhou company next door to BYD.
那个定子解释让我意识到我以前不理解的地方。几年前，一个平铜轨供应商告诉我，有一家公司在测试电动汽车电机时，最终使用了柔性电缆。原因是定子接线设计松动！！这让我很困惑。他说：“你知道的，热量、振动、磁场。在那个设计中，你不能使用固体铜条，因为总有东西会被压垮。”我很确定他在说比亚迪，因为它是位于比亚迪旁边的惠州公司。
@zeitgeist888
Love the deep dives and compare and contrast to other systems. The Borg Warner involvement was quite a surprise
This means that even with Trump's obstruction, companies from both countries can still cooperate.
喜欢深入分析并与其他系统进行对比。博格华纳的参与真是个惊喜。这意味着即使在特朗普的阻挠下，两国的公司依然可以合作
@yueibm
Paul, great video. I wonder if there are any long-term studies on how those cooling jacket seals survive after 10 years. It looks like if they leak it'll ruin the inverter, possibly blow the fuse or the inverter (physically blow apart like charging station plugs that have had water ingress). Reminds me of the GM inverter review we were a part of and I asked why is there a big hole in the middle of the control PCB and our supplier's answer was to pass coolant through via o-rings.
Paul，太棒的视频。我想知道是否有长期研究这些冷却外套密封件在10年后是如何耐用的。看起来如果它们泄漏会毁坏逆变器，可能会烧毁保险丝或逆变器（像充电站插头那样因水进而爆裂）。
这让我想起我们参与的GM逆变器评测，我曾问为什么控制PCB中间有个大孔，我们供应商的回答是通过O型圈将冷却液通过。
@cyber5515
Thanks for sharing that. The thermal conductivity between the rotor, stator and housing appears poor. if the stator is just a loose slide fit into the housing wouldn't that cause thermal resistance and high heat under high power? Maybe press fitting the stator into housing with some added thermal paste would be an improvement? Also, the rotor has holes, but it is unclear if there is any internal centrifugal airflow there to transfer cool air from the housing through the rotor?
感谢分享。转子、定子和外壳之间的热导性似乎较差。如果定子只是松散地滑入外壳，是否会导致热阻和高功率下的高温？
也许将定子通过压装与外壳配合，并添加一些导热膏会有所改善？此外，转子有孔，但不清楚是否有内部的离心气流来将冷空气从外壳传递到转子？
@FilterYT
Nice job, thank you Paul. It's hard to imagine a rotor that size spinning at 18,000 rpm.
干得好，谢谢Paul。很难想象这么大的转子能以18,000转/分钟的速度旋转。
@ARKY-v3x
Fascinating video! Not an "electrical Engineer" by trade, but this stuff is fascinating!
令人着迷的视频！虽然我不是“电气工程师”，但这些东西真的很吸引人！
@dausury3152
Motor driver is so compact, it is very impress!
Chinese technology has reached a top level; they don't just win the market by offering low prices.
电机驱动器非常紧凑，给人留下深刻印象！
中国人的技术已经达到顶尖水平，他们并不仅仅是靠便宜来赢得市场
@markusflorianthomas
What a great informative video!
真是一个很棒的、有信息量的视频！
@terrygiven8789
nice teardown and analysis. was disappointed that you guys didnt rip into the DC EMI filter, that would have been interesting
不错的拆解和分析。我有点失望你们没有拆解DC电磁干扰滤波器，那会很有趣。
@JevnyRapidMFG
Brilliant teardown showcasing BYD's system-level thinking! The seamless integration of components from suppliers like BorgWarner is engineering artistry. At Jevny, we appreciate this holistic approach—every precision-machined part we produce is designed to integrate perfectly into our clients' larger systems.
精彩的拆解，展示了BYD的系统级思维！来自博格华纳等供应商组件的无缝集成堪称工程艺术。在Jevny，我们欣赏这种整体思维——我们生产的每个精密加工部件都被设计成能够完美集成到客户的更大系统中。
@HomelabExtreme
VERY nice to see removable and thus serviceable inverter components, namely the IGBTs, most EV motor inverters are potted, and in many cases, the transistors are bonded directly as bare dies to the inverter casing making repair practically impossible.
非常高兴看到可拆卸的逆变器部件，因此可以维修，特别是IGBTs，大多数电动汽车电机逆变器都是浸封的，在许多情况下，晶体管直接作为裸芯与逆变器外壳粘接，导致修复几乎不可能。
@gregzeng
Very curious about the alternatives to screws. All Phillips head screws? No other fluids or paste to prevent screws and bolts vibrating loose?
非常好奇替代螺丝的方法。全是十字螺丝吗？没有其他液体或膏料来防止螺丝和螺栓松动吗？
@Techn0man1ac
Make a video about the resolver function for modern electric motors.
制作一个关于现代电动机分辨器功能的视频。
FINALLY getting back to tear-down videos. SO much better than the videos lately that are just promotions for other companies.
终于回到拆解视频了。比最近那些只是在推广其他公司的视频好多了。
@Enonymouse_
Don't be so sure that this is not a paid for promotion, BYD's reputation within China is terrible.
别太确定这不是付费推广，比亚迪在中国的声誉很差。
@deltajohnny
@Enonymouse_ here in Spain I am very happy with my BYD and the other owners who are on the forums also
@Enonymouse_ 我在西班牙对我的比亚迪很满意，论坛上的其他车主也一样。
@jheissjr
@Eno@Enonymouse_ I didn’t keep up with BYD. What issues do they have?
@Eno@Enonymouse_ 我没有关注比亚迪，他们有什么问题？
@Enonymouse_
@jheissjr Aside from build quality, tons of battery fires, lots of them. More than is the norm for any other EV brand build by a western or EU company. The stuff assembled in China has very sus frxs, and BYD within China constantly releases new models with very little change to it. Overall its a dumpster fire built in on a good idea and the perception that everything is fine when its not. Their government uses this to tout its green vehicle position when that position is build on fake stats. I don't know how BYD holds up for real (from people who aren't simps - paid or otherwise) outside of China.
除了制造质量之外，还有很多电池起火，数量比任何西方或欧盟公司制造的其他电动汽车品牌都要多。中国组装的车架非常可疑，比亚迪在中国内地不断推出新型号，但几乎没有什么变化。
总体来说，这是一个建立在一个好主意上的垃圾场，大家误以为一切正常，实际上并非如此。
他们的政府用这个来吹嘘绿色汽车的位置，而这个位置是建立在虚假的数据上的。我不知道比亚迪在中国外的实际情况如何（从不偏袒的人——无论是付费的还是其他）。
@deltajohnny
@Enonymouse_ Not true. New BYD LFP batteries do not explode, burn, etc
不对。新的比亚迪LFP电池不会爆炸、起火等。
译注：LFP指磷酸铁锂电池
@ricardosy5247
It's a tear-down, not spying of course. The West will reverse -engineer but that's allowed, we in the West do not steal China's technology. There's no such thing.
这只是拆解视频，不是间谍行为。当然，西方会进行逆向工程，但这是允许的，我们西方不会偷取中国的技术。根本没有这种事。
@dugang139
@Enonymouse_ TROLL
网络喷子
@rolandohiebert2144
@Enonymouse_I've driven a shark and it was great. I also know a few people who have had one for about half a year now who haven't had issues. I actually haven't seen or heard of any byd ev fires since they switched to the lfp blade batteries. Chinese vehicles are becoming dominant in my area anyway and seem to just be better made than most other places stuff now.
我开过一辆比亚迪鲨鱼，很棒。我还知道一些已经拥有半年左右的车主，他们没有遇到问题。
我实际上自从比亚迪换用LFP刀片电池以来，没见过或听说过比亚迪电动汽车起火。
反正中国车在我这儿变得越来越主导，而且似乎做工比其他地方的车好多了。
@randomsmarts3977
On the screw issue, the 100 screws of the inverter. There is a lot of radio frequency inside the inverter that you do not want leaking out. The long interface edges between the housing and the covers can act like a slot antennas at higher frequencies. Using a lot of closely space screws to attach the covers to the housing can ruin the slot antenna action preventing leakage of the RFI. Even though the inverter runs at relatively low frequencies, the wave shape is sharp and has very strong energy up into the 100's of MHZ. So, it's not a mechanical consideration it's an electric consideration.
关于螺丝问题，逆变器的100颗螺丝。逆变器内部有很多射频信号，你不希望它们泄露出去。外壳与覆盖物之间的长接口边缘在较高频率下可能像槽天线一样工作。
使用很多紧密排列的螺丝将覆盖物固定到外壳上，可以破坏槽天线的作用，防止射频干扰泄漏。
尽管逆变器运行在相对较低的频率，但波形尖锐，能量非常强，甚至可达到100MHz以上。因此，这不仅仅是机械问题，更是电气问题。
@ligius3
True, but there are other ways to solve this. You can use shielding gaskets, you can have tabs that hook up the top and bottom, springs or stakes, design shielding boxes in your stamping or casting, etc. Paul is right, this is mechanical design done by EEs, I'm also an EE. Screws are used in stationary equipment to prevent board bend and also provide grounding, but using it in automotive is asking for trouble, both electrically and mechanically.
确实，但还有其他解决方法。你可以使用屏蔽垫圈，也可以设计连接上下的标签、弹簧或桩，或者在冲压或铸造过程中设计屏蔽箱等。
Paul说得对，这是由电子工程师进行的机械设计，我也是电子工程师。
螺丝用于固定设备，防止电路板弯曲，并提供接地，但在汽车中使用螺丝会带来麻烦，无论是电气上还是机械上。
@crasho1980
@ligius3
Sound like your solution is more over engineered
So people that does not involve in the production process try to nitpick people that actually design and producing the products
听起来你的解决方案过于复杂了
所以那些不参与生产过程的人开始挑剔那些真正设计和生产产品的人。
@killerhurtalot
@ligius3 So... instead of a bunch replaceable screws... you want to design shielding gaskets, interlocking tabs, springs, and shielding boxes into the casing???
You sound german, making everything way more complicated than it needs to be and basically unrepairable...
所以... 你是想要设计屏蔽垫圈、互锁卡扣、弹簧和屏蔽箱到外壳里，而不是使用一堆可以更换的螺丝吗？？
你听起来像德国人，把一切弄得比需要的更复杂，基本上是不可修复的...
@wtmayhew
I feel confident a group costed this out and found threaded fasteners plus installation labor was the lowest cost solution. RF conductive gasketing material is pretty expensive, is fragile and requires finicky alignment. Screws are inexpensive and need minimal training to install. Perhaps even an assembly robot can install the screws.
我很有信心一个小组已经估算过这个，并发现螺纹紧固件加上安装人工是最低成本的解决方案。射频导电垫圈材料相当贵，且脆弱，需要精确对准。螺丝便宜，且安装时几乎不需要什么培训。也许甚至可以用装配机器人来安装螺丝。
@501Bravo
@killerhurtalot See above...
Stamping a tabbed metal gasket is *far* simpler, cheaper and quicker than drilling and tapping 100 holes, plus the machine time and material to form 100 screws.
And, that's not even counting assembly time.
冲压带标签的金属垫圈远比钻孔和攻丝100个孔简单、便宜且快捷，另外还要算上机器时间和制造100个螺丝的材料费用。
而且这还没算上组装时间。
@ligius3
@killerhurtalot I was just giving examples, you could choose EITHER of those, no need to do all. It was a response to "we can only do it with screws"
我只是给了几个例子，你可以选择其中任何一个，不必做所有。那是对“我们只能用螺丝”的回应。
@lyrebirdcyclesmarkkelly9874
Yes. The Fourier transform of a low frequency square wave is a series of increasingly high frequency sine waves, so RF becomes important even if the switching frequency itself isn't a problem.
是的，低频方波的傅里叶变换是一系列越来越高频的正弦波，因此即使开关频率本身不是问题，射频也变得很重要。
@-szega
@wtmayhew these are installed by machines. They've been talking about OEMs using too many screws in inverters and batteries since forever but realistically if all OEMs keep doing it maybe they have a good reason and maybe it's not the big cost factor these guys think it is.
这些是由机器人安装的。从很久以前开始，人们就一直在讨论原始设备制造商在逆变器和电池中使用过多的螺丝，但实际上，如果所有原始设备制造商都这样做，也许他们有一个合理的理由，也许这不是这些人认为的那样大成本因素。
@grisflyt
I believe you talk about pulse-width modulation. I don't know what frequencies are used in EVs. Typical motor controllers switch at no more than 15kHz. But it's 100% harmonic distortion and noise may reach 100s of kHz. The 15kHz is problematic enough. It puts out so much noise that it can "kill" your broadband connection. It can also trip earth-leakage circuit breakers. Special, shielded cables are used. As well as filters. Those are usually as large as the inverter itself and much heavier. Think a large transformer. PWM can be bad for the motor as well. The higher the carrier frequency, the better.
我相信你说的是脉宽调制。我不知道电动汽车使用什么频率。典型的电机控制器切换频率不超过15kHz。但是它是100%的谐波失真，噪声可能达到几百kHz。15kHz已经足够成问题了。
它发出的噪声如此之大，以至于可以“杀死”你的宽带连接。它还可能触发漏电断路器。
使用了特殊的屏蔽电缆以及过滤器。这些通常和逆变器本身一样大，而且要重得多。想象一个大变压器。脉宽调制对电机也不好。载波频率越高越好。
@weinixiong8964
ECM reduction and copper screws
ECM减少和铜螺丝
@marafones
interesting note
有趣的观点
@ryandoyle4344
Could dowels not be substituted for some of the screws?
是否可以用木钉代替一些螺丝？
@terrygiven8789
@wtmayhew came here to say this
我来这里就是为了说这个
@maxtorque2277
the inverters "thin stamped lid" you like so much FORCES you to use a 'short spaced' method to attach said lid to the main enclosure! You can use less fixings if the lid was cast, but the cost of screws is irrelevant, and as they are all put in and tightened at once with a screw placing jig / robot, it's takes the same time to do up 100 as to do up 1. There are other methods, from glue to spring clips to lazer welding, but what you find is the design, dev and critically VALIDATION of such process costs more than just using the screws. The final point is screws allow rework. During dev these inverters undergo a LOT of testing (i've spent years of my life designing and running high performance electrical machine tests for OEMs) and undergo lots of reqork, revisions, and instrumentation fit outs. Having screws means you can do ALL that AND validate the production sealing solution at the same time. Otherwise, you have a dev set of hardware and a Proddy set of hardware, which means you have to then do lots of expensive late-on testing of the proddy sealing solution after you have finished a lot of the basic functional and performance testing. This adds huge cost and time delays to the program. Suddenly the cost of lots of screws (lets charitably say $5 per inverter, but it's less than this at volume) doesn't seem too bad.
你喜欢的逆变器“薄冲压盖”迫使你使用“短间距”方法将盖子固定到主外壳上！如果盖子是铸造的，可以用更少的固定件，但螺丝的成本无关紧要，而且所有螺丝都是一次性放入并用螺丝放置夹具/机器人拧紧的，安装100个螺丝所需的时间和安装1个螺丝是一样的。
还有其他方法，从胶水到弹簧夹到激光焊接，但你会发现，设计、开发和关键的过程验证成本比只用螺丝更高。最后一点是螺丝允许返工。在开发过程中，这些逆变器会进行大量测试（我花了很多年设计和运行OEM的高性能电机测试），并进行大量的返工、修订和仪器安装。使用螺丝意味着你可以完成所有这些工作，同时验证生产封装解决方案。
否则，你就有一套开发硬件和一套生产硬件，这意味着你在完成很多基本功能和性能测试后，还得做大量昂贵的后期测试。这会给项目带来巨大的成本和时间延迟。突然间，很多螺丝的成本（我们姑且说每个逆变器5美元，但大批量时更便宜）看起来就不那么糟糕了。
@andrewbritten
@maxtorque2277 You did mention spring clips, though. That would seem logical, even during development wouldn't it? But then, would they present noise problems?
你确实提到了弹簧夹，这在开发阶段似乎是合理的，不是吗？但是，这样会不会带来噪声问题呢？
@seymorefact4333
Dude keeps saying the DESIGN is great for the Chinese MARKET...but, wouldn't recommend for the US EU market? AT 23:00. IF it works well in China...why wouldn't it work well EVERYWHERE? COST is to high for AMERICAN CONSUMERS? US manufactures are to CHEAP? PROFITS from endless repairs from the west? EXplaIN YOURSELF!
那个人一直说这个设计适合中国市场……但是不推荐给美国和欧洲市场？在23:00时。如果它在中国好用……为什么在其他地方就不好用呢？美国消费者觉得价格太高？美国制造商太便宜了？是西方的无尽维修带来了利润？解释一下！
@tv-ld3wv
@seymorefact4333
That question has to be asked for the Chinese customers, why do they buy a product when they know well it's less reliable, A,B,C pillars are extremely light and cheap, and the pack itself is extremely thin and light that when road imperfections hit the pack, the Chinese cars engulfed by fire pretty easily
All Chinese customers know more than that but they accept that
这个问题必须问问中国消费者，为什么他们明明知道这个产品不可靠，A、B、C柱极其轻便便宜，而电池包本身非常薄而轻，当遇到路面不平时，汽车很容易着火
所有中国消费者比这知道得更多，但他们接受这一点。
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
@seymorefact4333 Protecting industrial waste from the American mainland is a priority for interest groups.
保护美国本土的工业废物是利益集团的优先任务。
@davidhoang6360
Why western built short lifespan cost more than byd?
为什么西方制造的短寿命产品比比亚迪的更贵？
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
They impose high tariffs on imported cars.
他们对进口汽车施加了高额关税
@SetMyLife
@davidhoang6360I think a combination of lots of regulations, bureucracy, wages.
我认为是很多法规、官僚主义和工资的结合。
@bhayes058
he said it was because China has more ready access to rare earth materials. Which was a reasonable part of trade which has recently been destroyed for a while .@seymorefact4333
他说是因为中国更容易获得稀土材料。这是原本是贸易中合理的一部分，最近一段时间已经被破坏了。
@andrewrobbins4657
@seymorefact4333it’s a material sourcing issue. China has the best raw materials for high end high performance magnets in the world. Thus it’s not very expensive for them to make really high end magnets. However for a US company the supply chain to get the same high end magnets is much more painful, expensive, and risky. If a US company can only get the magnets they need from China then they have huge supply chain risk if the material flow were to be stopped from China for any reason
这是一个材料采购问题。中国拥有世界上最好的高端高性能磁铁原材料。因此，他们制造高端磁铁并不昂贵。然而，对于美国公司来说，获取同样高端磁铁的供应链则更加痛苦、昂贵且风险更大。
如果美国公司只能从中国获得它们需要的磁铁，那么一旦因为任何原因停止从中国的材料流动，他们就面临巨大的供应链风险。
@彷徨小鸡
In fact, oil-cooled motors are already very common in the Chinese market, and BYD uses them in its high-snd products. Rotor cooling only occurs in some high-performance products.
事实上，油冷电机在中国市场已经非常常见，比亚迪在其高端产品中使用了它们。转子冷却仅出现在一些高性能产品中。
@iambenmitchell
Finally, a tear down video! This is what I subscribed for… not $7,000 stove advertisements.
Edit: to be clear, I appreciate everything you guys do. You gotta fund these teardowns somehow, I get that. But the barrage of what are pretty much back to back advertisements was starting to get old
终于有拆解视频了！这就是我订阅的原因…不是那些7,000美元的炉子广告。
编辑：要明确的是，我感谢你们所做的一切。你们必须以某种方式为这些拆解视频融资，我明白。但是连续不断的广告让我有点厌倦了。
@slartybartfarst9737
Always appreciate Pauls insight. Not needing cooling on China motor rotors due to the availability of Diprosium and Turbium which withstand high heat is gold dust! I engineered 44 years in big auto world wide and you always knew when you were talking with a true expert as not only would they know the technology but the geographic and even social influences of any design, I always found it fascinating taking geographic and social aspects into my own designs made for a better outcome.
Back to today running my from new in 2014 Tesla Mode S P85 here in the UK Ive just fitted a coolent dexe on the LDU (Tesla Large Drive Unit ) as we know rotor cooling leak is an Achilles heel on the LDU but here in UK we have no Death Valley or long high speed runs and faced with coolant in the inverter due the motor shaft coolant seal failure its best to remove the rotor cooling so allowing for th geographic (no high speeds) and social (theres a support structure of home and 3rd party repaires/mods) plus it being an induction motor there are no magnets to cook theres a design path for these motors to keep on working, thanks Paul ill sleep at night!
总是很欣赏Paul的见解。由于稀土磁体在高温下的耐受性，不需要对中国电机转子进行冷却，这真是无价之宝！我在全球汽车行业工程设计中已经有44年的经验，你总是能知道何时和真正的专家交谈，因为他们不仅了解技术，还会知道任何设计的地理和社会影响。我总是觉得将地理和社会因素融入自己的设计中会得到更好的结果。
回到今天，我在英国驾驶着2014年的特斯拉Model S P85，我刚刚在LDU（特斯拉大驱动单元）上安装了冷却液补丁（我们知道转子冷却泄漏是LDU的阿基琉斯之踵），但在英国，我们没有死亡谷或长时间高速行驶，而且由于电机轴冷却密封故障，逆变器中的冷却液泄漏，所以最好去除转子冷却，这样可以考虑到地理因素（没有高速）和社会因素（有本地和第三方维修/改装支持结构），而且它是感应电机，没有磁铁会被过热，这些电机有设计路径继续工作，谢谢Paul，我今晚能安心睡觉了！
@rafffe
The simplicity of the inverter surprised me. Few parts and clean design.
逆变器的简单设计让我感到惊讶，部件少且设计简洁。
@seymorefact4333
Dude keeps saying the DESIGN is great for the Chinese MARKET...but, wouldn't recommend for the US EU market? AT 23:00. IF it works well in China...why wouldn't it work well EVERYWHERE? COST is to high for AMERICAN CONSUMERS? US manufactures are to CHEAP? PROFITS from endless repairs from the west? EXplaIN YOURSELF!
这个家伙一直说这个设计适合中国市场…但却不推荐美国和欧盟市场？如果在中国效果很好，为什么在其他地方不好？是因为美国消费者成本太高？美国制造商太便宜了？是西方国家靠维修来获利？解释一下！
@mefobills279
@seymorefact4333I wondered about that too. Lack of rare earth metals maybe? You are more constrained with temperature.
我也在想这个问题。可能是缺少稀土金属？你在温度上会受限。
@user-zr3ym6hq5n
@mefobills279 Protecting industrial waste from the American mainland is a priority for interest groups.
保护来自美国本土的工业废料是利益集团的优先事项。
@randr10
@seymorefact4333 Yes. He explained exactly that in the video. It goes basically this: Rare earths are harder to come by in USDM and EU. They can be had, but it represents a supply chain risk, so try to go with a design that doesn't need them. Sometimes insurance isn't something you buy from an insurance company. This means oil cooling.
是的，他在视频中就解释了这一点，基本意思是：稀土金属在美国和欧盟较难获得。虽然可以获得，但这代表着供应链风险，所以尽量选择不需要这些材料的设计。有时候保险并不是从保险公司购买的，这意味着使用油冷却。
@fallinginthed33p
It looks like a Prius inverter or any other Toyota group hybrid inverter.
它看起来像是普锐斯的逆变器，或者是其他丰田集团混合动力汽车的逆变器。
@Choc_Chilla
Blows my freaking mind how small these power units are.
这些电源单元竟然这么小，真是让我震惊。
@earthwizz
It's not just for the China market, it's for the world market minus the USA. Great to see the tear downs again.
这不仅仅是为中国市场设计的，它是为除美国以外的全球市场设计的。很高兴再次看到拆解视频。
@gpsfinancial6988
It would be nice if drivers in USA had the freedom to access them
如果美国的司机能自由使用这些设备就好了。
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@gpsfinancial6988 In the case of the State Of California which is going all-in on full electrification by 2032, if you saw their electrical infrastructure and the operation of their largest power company, Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E), famous for their rolling blackouts every summer, you may be inclined to rethink that wish...
以加利福尼亚州为例，该州计划到2032年全面实现电气化。如果你看过他们的电力基础设施和最大的电力公司——太平洋煤气电力公司（PG&E）的运营，这家公司每年夏天都以停电著称，你可能会重新考虑这个愿望…
@poxcr
True, the rest of the world is just moving on without them...
确实，世界其他地方都在没有他们的情况下继续前进...
@christophervogelvirginvall5502
Which is interesting since BorgWarner is an American company.
这很有趣，因为博格华纳是美国公司。
@DiedLiu
FINALLY another teardown, I am subscribe for it.
终于又有一个拆解视频了，我已经订阅了。
@litewavve
All car manufacturers should watch this channel, even pay Munro for consulting.
所有汽车制造商都应该观看这个频道，甚至为Munro付费咨询。
@StopTheBurn
The design of the inverter is brilliant! So much power in a compact package! Next level engineering.
逆变器的设计非常出色！在一个紧凑的包装中包含如此强大的功率！下一个级别的工程设计。
@longcimb
Who said Chinese cannot innovate
谁说中国人不能创新？
@anomalysyndrome3235
@longcimb western propaganda for sure.
绝对是西方的宣传。
@akakakakakak3084
@anomalysyndrome3235 I am so sure BYD has stolen the technologies and designs from US, just trust me and you are happy
我敢肯定比亚迪偷了美国的技术和设计，相信我，你会开心的。
@MoiAdventures-op1yj
@2:53, you see "BorgWarner" stamped on the housing.
你可以看到外壳上印有博格华纳
@stevenlee7195
better than Hyundai/KIA for sure with their ICCU failure.
肯定比现代/起亚更好，至少他们的ICCU没有故障。
@Doctorbasss
42:49. I think that the reason WHY they choose to have flexible cables on the 3 phases is also to accomodate one of the electrical contacting process which is the ULTRASONIC WELDING. This process vibrate at many thousands of kHz and create additional mecanical stress during the welding so having a flexible part allow the stress to be damped. They eliminated 3 screw by choosing to not have seperated 3 phases conductors and 6 junctions with screws. But still 6 of them are ultrasonicly welded anyway. The large chunk of copper between the hairpins and the 3 phases conductors are the plate to make easier the ultrasonic welding that require pressure on both sides of the weld. (They can not weld the copper braid strap directly to the hairpins)
我认为他们选择在三相电缆上使用柔性电缆的原因之一，是为了适应电气接触过程中的超声波焊接。这个过程在数千千赫的频率下振动，并在焊接过程中产生额外的机械应力，所以使用柔性部件可以缓解这种应力。
通过选择不使用分开的三相导体和六个带螺钉的接头，他们去掉了三个螺丝。
不过，六个连接点还是通过超声波焊接的。发夹和三相导体之间的大块铜板是为了方便超声波焊接，这要求施加压力在焊接的两侧。（他们无法将铜编织带直接焊接到发夹上）
@mgiblets6616
nice to see the presentation! congrats!
很高兴看到这个展示！恭喜！
@Digwind
Thanks for the video! It would be also very interesting to see the teardown of their 1.5MW flash charging capable cars. And on the opposite spectrum their cheapest cars Atto 1 (Seagull) or Geely EX2 they have ~50-70kW motors the cost cutting there must be to extreme so would be cool to see that as well.
感谢这个视频！看到他们1.5MW闪充能力的车拆解会很有趣。而在另一个极端，他们最便宜的车Atto 1（海鸥）或者吉利EX2拥有大约50-70kW的电机，成本削减一定非常极端，看到那个也会很酷。
@bevbev58
Great unbiased analysis, love it when you guys do that. The "staff" make such great videos.
很棒的无偏分析，我喜欢你们这样做。你们的“员工”制作的这些视频非常棒。
@Godiseenkind
Borgwarner only supplied the simplest component-reducer. The motor and electronic control are BYD's own.
博格华纳仅提供了最简单的组件减速器。电机和电子控制是比亚迪自己的。
@wh3596
Do you know what a Supplier is or a Tool And Die factory is?? I worked for these supplier? They don't design anything, the principal company (BYD) provides the spec and blue prints to the supplier BorgWarner.
你知道什么是供应商或模具工厂吗？我曾在这些供应商工作过。他们不设计任何东西，主要公司（比亚迪）提供规格和蓝图给供应商博格华纳。
@zachlafond2652
I love these type of videos. I'm always amazed at the engineering behind this stuff. Crazy the amt of power you can get out of such a small package.
我喜欢这类视频。我总是对这些东西背后的工程设计感到惊讶。可以从这么小的体积中提取出如此巨大的功率，真是疯狂。
@unclezeppy
That stator explanation made me realize what I did not understand before. Several years ago a supplier of flat copper rails told me about a company that was testing EV motors and had ended up using flexible power cables. The reason was a stator wiring design that was loose!! That did not make any sense to me. He said: “You know, heat, vibration, magnetic fields. In that design you cannot use a solid copper bars, because something has to give.” I’m pretty sure he was talking about BYD for being a Huizhou company next door to BYD.
那个定子解释让我意识到我以前不理解的地方。几年前，一个平铜轨供应商告诉我，有一家公司在测试电动汽车电机时，最终使用了柔性电缆。原因是定子接线设计松动！！这让我很困惑。他说：“你知道的，热量、振动、磁场。在那个设计中，你不能使用固体铜条，因为总有东西会被压垮。”我很确定他在说比亚迪，因为它是位于比亚迪旁边的惠州公司。
@zeitgeist888
Love the deep dives and compare and contrast to other systems. The Borg Warner involvement was quite a surprise
This means that even with Trump's obstruction, companies from both countries can still cooperate.
喜欢深入分析并与其他系统进行对比。博格华纳的参与真是个惊喜。这意味着即使在特朗普的阻挠下，两国的公司依然可以合作
@yueibm
Paul, great video. I wonder if there are any long-term studies on how those cooling jacket seals survive after 10 years. It looks like if they leak it'll ruin the inverter, possibly blow the fuse or the inverter (physically blow apart like charging station plugs that have had water ingress). Reminds me of the GM inverter review we were a part of and I asked why is there a big hole in the middle of the control PCB and our supplier's answer was to pass coolant through via o-rings.
Paul，太棒的视频。我想知道是否有长期研究这些冷却外套密封件在10年后是如何耐用的。看起来如果它们泄漏会毁坏逆变器，可能会烧毁保险丝或逆变器（像充电站插头那样因水进而爆裂）。
这让我想起我们参与的GM逆变器评测，我曾问为什么控制PCB中间有个大孔，我们供应商的回答是通过O型圈将冷却液通过。
@cyber5515
Thanks for sharing that. The thermal conductivity between the rotor, stator and housing appears poor. if the stator is just a loose slide fit into the housing wouldn't that cause thermal resistance and high heat under high power? Maybe press fitting the stator into housing with some added thermal paste would be an improvement? Also, the rotor has holes, but it is unclear if there is any internal centrifugal airflow there to transfer cool air from the housing through the rotor?
感谢分享。转子、定子和外壳之间的热导性似乎较差。如果定子只是松散地滑入外壳，是否会导致热阻和高功率下的高温？
也许将定子通过压装与外壳配合，并添加一些导热膏会有所改善？此外，转子有孔，但不清楚是否有内部的离心气流来将冷空气从外壳传递到转子？
@FilterYT
Nice job, thank you Paul. It's hard to imagine a rotor that size spinning at 18,000 rpm.
干得好，谢谢Paul。很难想象这么大的转子能以18,000转/分钟的速度旋转。
@ARKY-v3x
Fascinating video! Not an "electrical Engineer" by trade, but this stuff is fascinating!
令人着迷的视频！虽然我不是“电气工程师”，但这些东西真的很吸引人！
@dausury3152
Motor driver is so compact, it is very impress!
Chinese technology has reached a top level; they don't just win the market by offering low prices.
电机驱动器非常紧凑，给人留下深刻印象！
中国人的技术已经达到顶尖水平，他们并不仅仅是靠便宜来赢得市场
@markusflorianthomas
What a great informative video!
真是一个很棒的、有信息量的视频！
@terrygiven8789
nice teardown and analysis. was disappointed that you guys didnt rip into the DC EMI filter, that would have been interesting
不错的拆解和分析。我有点失望你们没有拆解DC电磁干扰滤波器，那会很有趣。
@JevnyRapidMFG
Brilliant teardown showcasing BYD's system-level thinking! The seamless integration of components from suppliers like BorgWarner is engineering artistry. At Jevny, we appreciate this holistic approach—every precision-machined part we produce is designed to integrate perfectly into our clients' larger systems.
精彩的拆解，展示了BYD的系统级思维！来自博格华纳等供应商组件的无缝集成堪称工程艺术。在Jevny，我们欣赏这种整体思维——我们生产的每个精密加工部件都被设计成能够完美集成到客户的更大系统中。
@HomelabExtreme
VERY nice to see removable and thus serviceable inverter components, namely the IGBTs, most EV motor inverters are potted, and in many cases, the transistors are bonded directly as bare dies to the inverter casing making repair practically impossible.
非常高兴看到可拆卸的逆变器部件，因此可以维修，特别是IGBTs，大多数电动汽车电机逆变器都是浸封的，在许多情况下，晶体管直接作为裸芯与逆变器外壳粘接，导致修复几乎不可能。
@gregzeng
Very curious about the alternatives to screws. All Phillips head screws? No other fluids or paste to prevent screws and bolts vibrating loose?
非常好奇替代螺丝的方法。全是十字螺丝吗？没有其他液体或膏料来防止螺丝和螺栓松动吗？
@Techn0man1ac
Make a video about the resolver function for modern electric motors.
制作一个关于现代电动机分辨器功能的视频。
