中国车企比亚迪发布堪比加油速度的超快充技术
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grass_monkeyx
100% tariff if you want to buy one, plus shipping costs
如果你想买，得交100%的关税，还得加上运费。
DrDizzler
Not in all countries or territories…
并非适用于所有国家或地区……
patrotsk
For americans only
仅限美国人（指的是100%关税）
Nashadelic
until american electric cars become to uncompetitive that they keep the country behind while the world passes them over, hard to believe that's what happening
要等到美国电动汽车变得毫无竞争力，导致整个国家被世界赶超、远远甩在身后，人们才肯相信这一切正在发生。
Mandoo_gg
Hard to believe Americans elected Trump....twice!
真不敢相信美国人竟然选了特朗普……而且选了两次！
WarpHype
Especially since no country drives as much as Americans, which is why all the currently rich American automakers have lobbied against better cars from outside of the US.
尤其是考虑到没有哪个国家的用车量像美国人这么大，这也正是为什么那些现有的美国汽车巨头一直在游说，试图抵制来自美国本土以外的优质汽车。
ThrustTrust
United States of America Never Uses Science?
美国从不讲科学
Dunderman35
Laughs in European, but it's only a chuckle because it's still 27% tariffs or something also here. We are supposed to buy German cars.
作为一个欧洲人，我忍不住笑出了声——但也只是苦笑罢了，毕竟我们这儿也有27%的关税或者类似的税费。毕竟，我们可是被设定好要去买德国车的。
Milwambur
It appears we have found the one and only good thing about brexit, no tariffs on a dolphin.
看来我们终于发现了脱欧唯一的“利好”：比亚迪海豚可以免关税了。
MrWFL
China also still has a 15% import duty on european cars. Just for the strategic importance a 25% tariff seems sensible.
中国目前对欧洲汽车也征收15%的进口关税。仅就战略重要性而言，定个25%的关税似乎挺合理的。
HunterSpecial1549
27% isn't high enough to stop people from preferring the new Chinese EVs.
This is a genuine problem for German carmakers and thus the whole German economy. Even if you keep Chinese EVs out of Europe they will still take over the rest of the world and wipe out much of German export revenue.
27%的税率还不足以让人们放弃选择中国的新款电动汽车。
这对德国汽车制造商，乃至整个德国经济来说，都是一个实实在在的难题。即便你把中国电动车挡在欧洲门外，它们依然会占领世界其他地区，从而大幅蚕食德国的大部分出口收入。
MrKoxu
You are saying it like the German carmakers are the victims. That's what happens when you sell overpriced cars with nothing but plastic on the inside and suddenly a competitor with more affordable cars comes into the market.
你说得好像德国车企是受害者似的。当你卖着死贵的车，内饰却只有廉价塑料，这时候突然冒出来一个竞争对手，卖的车更实惠，那这就是你该承受的结局。
Eastern-Vegetable780
The issue - and I say this as a EU citizen driving EU cars - is that at this point our cars are not just more expensive. They are obxtively worse, at least in the mid-range market which is where volumes are.
问题在于——作为一个开着欧洲车的欧盟公民，我这么说——现在的欧洲车不仅仅是贵。它们是客观上变差了，至少在走量的中端市场上是这样。
HunterSpecial1549
I don't know how you read that in to it, I'm happy to see China do well.
我不知道你怎么会读出这种意思，我其实很乐见中国发展得好。
PoIIux
But hey, at least they can pivot to transforming more of their defunct car factories into producing weaponry for Israel's global terrorism
不过话说回来，至少他们还能转型嘛，把更多废弃的汽车工厂改造成武器工厂，专门给以色列的全球恐怖活动提供弹药。
every_day_regular
Snickers in Canadian
加拿大人发出了那种尴尬又不失礼貌的微笑。
Revenga8
They're letting them in Canada now. Just slap a Toyota emblem on it and drive it through the border. Or from Mexico, I hear they're popular there too
加拿大现在也放行让它们进了。你只要贴个丰田的车标，就能大摇大摆地开过边境。哦对了，或者从墨西哥进，我听说那边也很流行这招。
Own_Reaction9442
You can drive one to the US as a visitor. The problem will come when you try to register it and the VIN isn't one licensed for import.
I guess you could put on a Toyota VIN plate, but someone's gonna check the VIN on the frx, too, and then the car's getting crushed and you're going to federal prison for VIN fraud.
作为访客，你确实可以把车开到美国去。但真正的问题在于，当你想给车上牌时，会发现它的车架号并没有获得进口许可。
我想你或许可以伪造一个丰田的车架号铭牌，但人家也会检查车架上的钢印号。到时候，车会被直接压成废铁，而你则因为车辆识别码欺诈罪，直接进联邦监狱吃牢饭。
forestflowersdvm
Can I just have a Canadian keep it registered there
那我能不能找个加拿大人，把车挂在他名下，就在那边上牌照？
miaogato
oshit your byd's are coming in from the Toyota importer too?
here in Portugal the Toyota importer is also responsible for almost if not every Chinese EV brand lMao.
卧槽，你们的比亚迪也是通过丰田的经销商进来的？
在葡萄牙这边，丰田的经销商居然也代理了几乎所有的中国电动车品牌，笑死我了。
granoladeer
Well, depends on the country
这个嘛，得看具体是哪个国家。
Laimered
Why do you assume that everyone is fucking american?
你凭什么默认所有人特么都是美国人？
OrthodoxAtheist
Approximately 43% to over 49% of Reddit's user base is based in the United States, making it the largest user demographic. While the US dominates traffic (often cited near 48-50%), the platform has a significant international presence, with the UK, Canada, and India following in user traffic.
If you're going to make an assumption, it isn't a bad one. You'll be right almost 50% of the time, despite their being more than two countries in the world. That's a pretty decent guess in my book.
Reddit 的用户群里，大概有43%到49%以上都来自美国，这让美国人成了最大的用户群体。虽然美国确实占据了流量的主导地位（通常数据都在48%-50%左右），但这平台在国际上也有不少用户，紧随其后的就是英国、加拿大和印度。
所以，如果你非要瞎猜的话，猜美国人也算不上什么坏主意。虽然世界上有两百多个国家，但你这么猜差不多有一半的几率是对的。在我看来，这概率已经挺不错了。
Historical-Bug-7536
American website, in English, majority of traffic comes from US, majority of the sub is American.
这是美国网站，使用英文，大部分流量来自美国，该板块的用户也以美国人为主。
Letronell
It still is cheaper, but no maintenance option is what really kills the deal.
便宜是便宜，但这车没法做保养，这才是真正让人下不了手的地方。
Dear_House5774
You cant import cars into the us that were never originally sold in the US UNLESS they are at least 25 years old.
你根本没法把那些从未在美国本土发售过的车进口到美国，除非它们的车龄至少满25年。
OrthodoxAtheist
For now. BYD's first hybrid was made in 2008, which means Americans can important them beginning in 2033/2034, which means we can expect the law to be upxed close to that date, to further protect to the US auto industry from dying as a result of its own mediocrity.
目前来说还是这样。但比亚迪的第一款混动车是2008年造的，这就意味着美国人要到2033或2034年才能进口它们。也就是说，我们可以预计，美国会在那前后修改相关法律，进一步保护本国汽车行业，免得它因自身平庸而彻底消亡。
MMessinger
Thank heavens, here in the US we're protecting domestic EV innovation.
Just ignore the fact there's really no "domestic EV innovation" going on, in the US. I mean, after manufacturers agreed in NACS, most of them just rolled back their EV production.
谢天谢地，咱们美国这是在“保护”本土的电动车创新呢。
不过大家就假装没看见吧，反正美国其实压根就没有什么“本土电动车创新”。我是说，自从各大厂商同意用NACS（北美充电标准）之后，他们大多数干脆就把电动车的生产计划给撤了。
roofie_Rubio7
Don't let this distract you from the fact In a few years China will have a base on the moon, this is no surprise
别被这事儿分了心，别忘了，过不了几年中国就要在月球上建基地了，这完全没什么好惊讶的。
Wasatchbl
Welcome to the United States. Where we preach about capitalism and the free market but prohibit competition that could benefit the consumer at the cost of the billionaires
Edit: I want to emphasize that this is not a political thing, although the United States government protects the billionaires. This is entirely a class thing and propaganda. Ford and Chevy did not go out of business during the '70s when Toyota and Datsun entered the market. If they wanted a true capitalist and free market economy, then open it up to everyone and let the best product with the best quality win.
欢迎来到美国：在这里我们大肆宣扬资本主义与自由市场，却禁止那些能惠及消费者、却会损害富豪利益的竞争。
补充说明：我想强调，这本质上不是政治问题—— 尽管美国政府确实在维护富豪利益。这完完全全是阶级问题与宣传洗脑。
上世纪70年代丰田和达特桑（Datsun）进入美国市场时，福特和雪佛兰也没有倒闭。如果他们真的信奉资本主义与自由市场经济，那就应该全面开放市场，让品质最优、产品最好的一方胜出。
Careful_Appeal5400
Hypocrisy is high up there in American values, so this outcome is as expected.
虚伪早已深植于美国的价值观之中，所以这种结果完全在意料之内。
rwinh
It's like that "American Dream" thing they try to convince others they have, value and focus on.
They quietly mutter "at the expense of others under their breath" and don't tell anyone it only applies to the already rich or highly connected, and usually only those who are white.
这就像那个所谓的“美国梦”，他们拼命想让别人相信，这是他们拥有、珍视并为之奋斗的东西。
但他们私底下却会小声嘀咕“这是踩着别人的肩膀换来的”，而且从来不告诉别人，这个梦只属于那些本来就富有或者人脉通天的人，而且通常还得是白人。
BrockObarnerLybian
This makes no sense
这完全说不通。
HunterSpecial1549
Tesla would be completely annihilated if there was an even playing field vs Chinese EVs. Think of poor Elon.
如果真能公平竞争，特斯拉早就被中国电动车打得渣都不剩了。想想可怜的埃隆吧
Toowoombaloompa
Here in Australia we have no domestic car industry to protect, so have a pretty even playing field for all models of car.
Tesla have been the best selling brand of EV for some time, but their market share has been slipping as more competitors come to market.
Tesla remained the top seller of electric vehicles, reporting 28,856 registrations in 2025, but the brand was down 24.8 per cent compared to 2024's 38,347, let alone its record result of more than 46,000 in 2023.
Combined with increased competition, the US giant's share of the EV market has dropped to 27.9 per cent, from 41.9 per cent in 2024, 52.9 per cent in 2023, and 59 per cent in 2022.
Source: https://www.drive.com.au/news/australias-best-selling-electric-cars-in-2025-by-model-and-brand/
We only get the 3 and the Y here. The S and X stopped being made in RHD and the Cybertruck probably needs extensive upxes to become compliant.
Ignoring Elon for a moment, Tesla have done a really good job of taking EVs mainstream. They're good looking cars with performance and features that European competitors couldn't match. When production shifted to China, quality went up and prices went down.
But BYD (and other Chinese brands) have been quietly releasing cars of a decent quality at a price that's hard to refuse. We love our utes (pickup trucks) in Australia and the BYD Shark 6 has been a huge success. A plug-in hybrid that's luxurious inside, Raptor-eating performance, but base Ranger pricing. They've just launched their Denza luxury brand here and reviewers are saying they're comparable to Land Cruisers!
And then there's Elon. Impossible to say how much of Tesla's downturn has been because of him, but anecdata suggests it's a factor.
在澳大利亚，我们没有本土汽车产业需要保护，因此所有车型都能在相当公平的竞争环境中发展。特斯拉曾长期是最畅销的电动汽车品牌，但随着更多竞争对手进入市场，其市场份额持续下滑。
2025年，特斯拉仍以28856辆的注册量位居电动汽车销量榜首，但较2024年的38347辆下降24.8%，更远低于2023年超过46,000辆的历史纪录。叠加竞争加剧，这家美国巨头的电动汽车市场份额从2022年的59%、2023年的52.9%、2024年的41.9%，降至27.9%。
我们这里只卖Model 3和Model Y。Model S与 Model X已停产右舵版，而赛博皮卡可能需要大幅修改才能满足合规要求。
先不谈埃隆（马斯克），特斯拉在推动电动汽车大众化方面做得非常出色。它的车型颜值高、性能强、配置丰富，欧洲竞品难以匹敌。产能转移至中国后，品质提升、价格下降。
但比亚迪（及其他中国品牌）一直在以难以拒绝的价格推出品质过硬的车型。澳大利亚人酷爱皮卡，比亚迪鲨鱼6大获成功 —— 这款插电混动皮卡内饰豪华、性能碾压福特猛禽，起售价却与福特Ranger相当。比亚迪刚在澳洲推出高端品牌腾势，评测机构称其可与丰田陆巡媲美！
然后就是埃隆本人。很难说特斯拉的下滑有多少是他造成的，但坊间迹象表明，这是重要因素之一。
woollinthorpe
Well said. Tesla makes a fine automobile; minus the Cyberturck, the mandatory subscxtion services, the ability to remotely turn them off if you drive somewhere they don't want you to, and the models that don't have actual door handles resulting in people dying fiery deaths when they can't escape... I have just disliked Musk as a person for as long as I can remember so I'm biased.
Now I'm very interested in learning more about the Shark 6!
说得好。特斯拉的车确实造得不错；除了Cybertruck（赛博皮卡）那个奇葩，还有那些强制订阅的服务，以及那种如果你开到了他们不想让你去的地方，他们就能远程把车关机的功能……更别提那些连个正经门把手都没有的车型，导致出事儿时人根本逃不出来，只能被活活烧死……
不过话说回来，我打小就不待见马斯克这个人，所以我肯定有偏见。现在我倒是特别想去好好了解一下那个比亚迪鲨鱼6
woollinthorpe
It's already being accounted for. Tesla recently discontinued the model S and model X to focus on robotics and Ai. He has to shift the source of revenue to wherever the government subsides are (see also SpaceX). Worlds wealthiest welfare queen. Socialism for me, not for thee.
这笔账早就被算进去了。特斯拉最近停产了 Model S 和 Model X，就是为了把精力都转到机器人和AI上。他必须把收入来源转移到政府有补贴的地方去（看看 SpaceX 就知道了）。简直是全球最富有的“福利女王”。。典型的“社会主义归我，自由市场归你”
NotAskary
It's not even the first time this shit happens, Harley exists because of protectionism, the Japanese manufacturers almost killed it a few times.
这种破事根本不是第一次发生。哈雷摩托能活到今天，完全是因为贸易保护主义，日本车企好几次都差点把它干死。
a_black_angus_cow
yeah, now its not just about capitalism, but every other american value.
没错，这事儿早就不仅仅是资本主义的问题了，美国所有的价值观估计都逃不过这个套路。
Wisear
the free market
free to exploit to the max
自由市场
就是可以肆无忌惮把你压榨到极致的自由
Ky_TheDestroyer7
The Battery Deatomiser 3000.
电池原子粉碎者 3000 型（要你命3000）
sigjnf
You’ll be delighted to learn that BYD is the world’s largest and most innovative battery company. They started out by making batteries. You’re using one right now, inside your phone. Guys know what they’re doing.
你会很高兴地了解到：比亚迪是全球规模最大、最具创新力的电池企业。他们最初就是从生产电池起家的。
你现在正在使用的手机里，就有他们造的电池。这帮人是真的懂行。
Cptn_Shiner
But my phone battery sucks.
但我这手机电池简直烂透了。
Hazril258
Considering that we constantly charge and use our phones while they're barely empty despite the manual saying specifically not to do that, it's not surprising.
Not to mention that just 30 years ago, a battery twice the size would only be able to power audio calls and maybe a game of pre-installed Tetris for a day.
咱们这帮人，手机明明还没怎么耗电，却总是不停地充、不停地用，完全无视说明书上别这么干的警告。所以电池烂也是意料之中的事儿，一点都不奇怪。
再说了，倒退个30年，那时候电池比现在大两倍，也就只能撑一天的功夫——除了打打电话，顶多再玩玩那个自带的俄罗斯方块。
miaogato
games for a day? Nokia 3310 perhaps but _30 years ago_ batteries hardly handled 3h calls
玩一整天游戏？也就诺基亚3310能做到吧。但30年前，电池连3小时通话都撑不住。
RamblinRichard
Yeah, I remember when the first iphones came out. You would be very lucky to get to the end of the day and it didn't run out before you got home even using it sparingly. Now sometimes I don't charge my phone for a couple of days and still use it for 3-4 hours screentime in that time. Batteries have gotten significantly better, at least in phones.
是啊，我还记得初代iPhone刚出来的时候。就算省着用，能撑到晚上回家还没电关机都算运气超好。现在我有时候好几天不充电，期间屏幕使用时间还能有3-4小时。电池技术进步真的太大了，至少在手机上是这样。
FranseFrikandel
Eh, big reason that phone batteries wear out so quick is just inherent to how they're used. You go through roughly a full battery each day on a phone, probably closer to once a week on a large car. Then, to maximize battery life, phones will use absolutely all of the battery. Most EVs will only cycle at like 80%.
Think about it, if a battery has a 500 cycle life, a phone won't last 2 years. A car with a 600km (372mi) range will last 300.000 km (186000mi)
Then many EVs now use LFP cells, which last a lot longer than NMC batteries too, however they're not used in phones since they're not quite as energy and power dense.
呃，手机电池之所以坏得这么快，主要还是由它的用法决定的。你想想，手机基本上每天都要把电用光一次，而大车可能一周才用一次。而且，为了榨干每一滴电量，手机恨不得把电池用到“底朝天”。但大多数电动车为了保命，只会用电池80%的容量。
算笔账你就懂了：如果电池寿命是500次循环，那手机撑死也就用两年。但一辆续航600公里的电动车，能跑30万公里呢！
再说了，现在很多电动车都用磷酸铁锂电池，这玩意儿比三元锂电池耐用多了。不过手机用不了它，因为它的能量密度和功率密度不够高，塞不进手机里。
mmmmchi
bro really comparing a car battery with a phone battery
老哥居然真拿汽车电池跟手机电池做比较，也是绝了。
OnceIsawthisthing
They claim 80% charge after 55 years, backed up with repeated tests. Often times outliving the car body, seats, and likely even the driver.
EDIT:
I'm moving this lix to my top post because I'm tired of responding to AI bots:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772683526000245
EDIT 2:
Because this ended up sending me down a rabbit hole. Here's a fun convo. Again this isn't a prototype. You can buy them, the cars. The charging stations exist. 5000+
https://youtu.be/ymQ1sHjdXVY?si=rX99MlC-rWv2pSVG
他们宣称（电池）在55年后还能保持80%的健康度，而且这结论是经过反复测试验证的。这电池经常比车架子、座椅，甚至可能连车主本人都活得都久。
编辑：
我把这个链接置顶，因为我实在懒得再跟那些AI机器人解释了：
编辑2：
这事最后让我越挖越深。这里有一段有趣的讨论。再说一次，这不是原型产品。这些车你现在就能买到，充电站也已经存在，数量超过 5000座。
Ratattack1204
I want to believe tho
不过我还是愿意选择相信的。
OnceIsawthisthing
Ok, I'll Google it for you:
https://www.fastcompany.com/91503415/byd-ev-battery-competes-with-gas-engines
TL;DR:
Key Details on BYD's Battery Advancements Lifespan (30–50+ Years): The new battery technologies, particularly the sodium-ion cells, are rated for 10,000 cycles. For the average driver (approx. 13,500 miles/year), this equates to roughly 55 years of use before reaching significant degradation.
EDIT: "Where can you charge it though?", you certainly will ask:
BYD has launched a 1.5-megawatt (1,500 kW) "Flash" charging system, with 5,000 stations already operational. These chargers, featuring a T-shaped design, can charge compatible EVs from 10% to 97% in under 9 minutes, even in extreme cold. BYD plans a massive expansion to 20,000 stations by the end of 2026, primarily targeting highway corridors and citie
行吧，我帮你谷歌一下发给你：简单总结一下（TL;DR）：关于比亚迪电池技术的关键细节。寿命（30–50年以上）： 新的电池技术（特别是钠离子电池）评级为1万次循环。对于普通司机（每年约13500英里）来说，这意味着在出现明显衰减之前，可以用上整整55年。
编辑： 你肯定会问“那上哪儿充去呢？”
比亚迪已经推出了1500千瓦的“闪充”系统，目前已有5000个充电站投入运营。这些采用 T 型设计的充电桩，甚至在极寒天气下，也能在9分钟内将兼容的电动车电量从10%充到97%。比亚迪计划在2026年底前大规模扩建至2万个充电站，主要覆盖高速公路走廊和城市区域。
Ratattack1204
No i get that they CLAIM this. I don’t believe it’s an accurate claim. We’ll see when non Chinese reviewers give it a go.
我明白他们宣称是这么回事，但我不相信这个说法是真实准确的。等非中国评测人士实际测试之后，咱们再看结果。
Octopus_O
They have also claimed the original purchaser of the car will get a lifetime warranty of the battery. 77.5% of the original range is the trigger to get a new battery. The current warranties of the BYD cars being sold here is 8 years/250,000 kms to 70% of original range.
他们还宣称，车辆首任车主可享受电池终身质保。当电池续航低于原厂标称续航的77.5%时，即可更换新电池。目前在本地销售的比亚迪车型，现有质保政策为：8年/25万公里，期间电池容量不低于原厂标称的70%。
PineappleOwn5325
That already exists in north america, except it's exclusively used for buses, and it's not very commonly installed because it takes a shitload of power, which cities are not willing to accomodate for. Which is perfectly reasonable
北美那边其实早就有了，不过只用在公交车上。而且装得也不多，因为这玩意儿太费电了，城市电网根本扛不住，也不愿意为它专门扩容。这也正常。
Jazzyoutro
Nice, but would love to see long term review if it starts in some other country.
挺好的，不过要是这车能在别的国家开卖，我倒真想看看长期使用后的测评
daurgo2001
They’re already in Mexico, and Canada has just opened up to receiving Chinese EV’s after trump’s tariffs.
它们已经进入墨西哥市场，而在特朗普的关税政策之后，加拿大刚刚开放对中国电动汽车的进口。
organic-water-
BYD is VERY popular in Mexico.
比亚迪在墨西哥可是火得一塌糊涂。
Jazzyoutro
I meant these superfast chargers they just launched.
我说的是他们刚推出的这些超级快充充电桩。
Windsdochange
They’re launching the superfast chargers across Europe this year. I read up on them when they were announcing their release a while back, the technology really is phenomenal.
他们今年将在整个欧洲推出超级快充充电桩。当初他们官宣的时候我就仔细研究过，这技术简直逆天
Kip-o
I used a BYD for a while in Australia, was a fantastic car. It’s already in other countries.
我在澳大利亚开过一段时间比亚迪，车非常棒。它已经进入其他国家市场了。
Pandustin
At least in Germany we have huge issues with the charging stations not delivering enough output. While in theory they can and are marketed that way, they barely hold up to their promises.
至少在德国，我们面临一个大问题：充电桩实际输出功率严重不足。理论上和宣传上它们确实能达到标称功率，但实际根本达不到承诺的效果。
g_bleezy
Just got back from Mexico and was ubering around. 8/10 rides were in a slick BYD or MG. They didn’t seem cheap but they weren’t luxury either. I wish it were an option in states!
刚从墨西哥回来，全程都在打网约车。10趟里有8趟坐的都是帅气的比亚迪或名爵。这些车看起来不廉价，但也算不上豪华。真希望美国也能买到！
e_line_65
I rode in a BYD in Portugal when I uber’d from the airport. I concur that it did not seem cheap. Although it was only a 20 minute ride, it seemed like a decent car.
之前从机场打车，在葡萄牙也坐了回比亚迪。我同意，那车确实不显廉价。虽说就坐了20分钟，但感觉还挺靠谱的。
ManBunH8er
Can us poor Americans get BYD out here as well? We have that cheap car overhyped shit from Elon.
我们这些可怜的美国人啥时候也能开上比亚迪啊？我们这儿只有马斯克卖的那些廉价又过度炒作的垃圾车。
Mysterious_Tutor_388
Nah your car companies will prevent them from being sold there so they don't have to compete with a free market.
不会的，美国车企肯定会从中阻挠，不让比亚迪进入当地市场销售。毕竟，他们不想在自由市场环境中和比亚迪硬碰硬。
HunterSpecial1549
No, I'm sorry. We must keep Elon from going bankrupt.
不，抱歉。我们必须避免让埃隆破产。
Dreboomboom
Okay, serious question about BYD. How good is the build quality of these cars. I've seen you tube vids where many of these cars were just complete nightmares.
Has there been some serious changes with BYD.
我想严肃地探讨一下比亚迪的情况。这些汽车的制造质量到底处于什么水平？我在视频平台上看到过许多案例，显示这些车存在严重的质量问题。不知比亚迪近期是否发生了根本性的转变？
Octopus_O
They are everywhere in Australia. A guy I work with has had one for a few years and loves it. Ive ridden in a fair few ubers that were BYDs and they are impressive. They are considered the top tier of affordable EVs over here.
比亚迪在澳洲市场的普及率非常高。我有位同事拥有该车已有数年，使用体验极佳。此外，我在多次搭乘网约车时也曾接触过比亚迪，其车辆素质确实令人印象深刻。在当地市场，它们被视为经济型电动汽车领域的最佳选择。
AutisticSuperpower
The ones shown blowing smoke on YouTube would NOT be allowed in Australia or the EU, so I can believe BYD would be made to tighten up the manufacturing on export models for the Western market, if not by the CCP then by the governments of receiving countries. Money talks, after all.
那些在YouTube上展示冒烟故障的车辆，绝对无法通过澳大利亚或欧盟的准入标准。因此，我完全相信，无论是迫于中国监管部门的压力，还是受制于进口国政府的法规，比亚迪都会针对西方市场收紧出口车型的制造工艺。毕竟，经济利益才是最终的驱动力。
WalkMaximum
I had an uber ride in one, the interior looked very cheap but it got us to our destination as well as any other car. I'd still prefer VW ID or R5 or Hyundai or Mazda.
我曾搭乘过一辆比亚迪网约车，其内饰看起来颇为廉价，不过在将乘客送达目的地这一基本功能上，它与其他车辆并无二致。尽管如此，我个人的偏好依然倾向于大众ID系列、R5、现代或马自达。
YoPappi
Drove Euro cars all my life, BYD interiors are surprisingly impressive. Go for a test drive!
作为一名长期驾驶欧系车的用户，我不得不承认比亚迪的内饰表现超出了我的预期，着实令人瞩目。不妨去亲身体验一下试驾吧
Gutterpump
All these comments sound like ads..
这些评论读起来怎么都像广告似的……
trigger2k20
I've been driving it in the UK for the last few weeks. Phenomenal build quality with insane tech that would only be available in top trim levels of European cars.
I drive a Sealion 7; it's spacious comparing to a European car. Boot size is a bit meh, but I can put a pram in it, which is good. I used to drive a Mercedes C-class, and the BYD outperforms it in tech, drive performance and quality.
I test-drove an EQB, and everything was rattling. I didn't even get half of the tech in the EQB that's in my BYD.
My Sealion 7 is the entry-level comfort trim. It doesn't have a dual-motor setup or a heads-up display, and it has a slightly smaller battery.
I don't regret my purchase at all.
过去几周我一直在英国开这款车。做工品质极其出色，搭载的黑科技只有欧洲车的顶配版本才会配备。
我开的是比亚迪海豹7：相比欧洲车，它空间很宽敞。后备箱空间一般般，但能放下婴儿车，这点很不错。我以前开奔驰C级，而比亚迪在科技配置、驾驶质感和做工品质上都超越了它。
我试驾过奔驰EQB，车里到处都有异响。而且我这辆比亚迪上的科技配置，EQB连一半都达不到。我的海豹7是入门舒适版，没有双电机、没有HUD抬头显示功能，电池也稍小一点。但我完全不后悔买它。
Optimal-Talk3663
They’re actually quite good. Had an Atto as a rental, and it was fine (like a Yaris or Jazz build). Also drove the Sealion, and that was good.
实际上，它们的表现相当不错。我曾租用过一辆Atto（比亚迪在海外命名Atto 3，国内对应元PLUS），整体体验良好（其做工质感与 Yaris丰田雅力士或Jazz本田飞度相当）。我也曾驾驶过海狮，那款车的表现也值得肯定。
Math-e
Brazilian units are very good quality-build wise. They only have 3 years in the market though so I wouldn't give a definitive call until the earliest unit warrant expires in 3 years. Some drivers are reaching 200k km with no problems and more than 90% battery health so that's something.
Their biggest problems are items choice and ergonomy. Like the Dolphin in my house has a super powerful wireless phone charger but zero backseat lighting. The gear knob is not very confortable to use and most AC controls are on the touch screen
巴西版本的车型做工质量非常好。鉴于其进入市场仅三年，我认为在首批车辆的质保期结束之前，尚不宜下定论。不过，确实有部分驾驶员已行驶达20万公里且未出现故障，电池健康度保持在90%以上，这无疑是一个积极的信号。
其最大的问题在于配置取舍与人机工程学设计。以我家的海豚车型为例，它配备了功率极高的无线手机充电器，但后排完全没有照明灯。此外，换挡旋钮的操作手感欠佳，且大部分空调控制功能都集成在触摸屏上
grass_monkeyx
100% tariff if you want to buy one, plus shipping costs
如果你想买，得交100%的关税，还得加上运费。
DrDizzler
Not in all countries or territories…
并非适用于所有国家或地区……
patrotsk
For americans only
仅限美国人（指的是100%关税）
Nashadelic
until american electric cars become to uncompetitive that they keep the country behind while the world passes them over, hard to believe that's what happening
要等到美国电动汽车变得毫无竞争力，导致整个国家被世界赶超、远远甩在身后，人们才肯相信这一切正在发生。
Mandoo_gg
Hard to believe Americans elected Trump....twice!
真不敢相信美国人竟然选了特朗普……而且选了两次！
WarpHype
Especially since no country drives as much as Americans, which is why all the currently rich American automakers have lobbied against better cars from outside of the US.
尤其是考虑到没有哪个国家的用车量像美国人这么大，这也正是为什么那些现有的美国汽车巨头一直在游说，试图抵制来自美国本土以外的优质汽车。
ThrustTrust
United States of America Never Uses Science?
美国从不讲科学
Dunderman35
Laughs in European, but it's only a chuckle because it's still 27% tariffs or something also here. We are supposed to buy German cars.
作为一个欧洲人，我忍不住笑出了声——但也只是苦笑罢了，毕竟我们这儿也有27%的关税或者类似的税费。毕竟，我们可是被设定好要去买德国车的。
Milwambur
It appears we have found the one and only good thing about brexit, no tariffs on a dolphin.
看来我们终于发现了脱欧唯一的“利好”：比亚迪海豚可以免关税了。
MrWFL
China also still has a 15% import duty on european cars. Just for the strategic importance a 25% tariff seems sensible.
中国目前对欧洲汽车也征收15%的进口关税。仅就战略重要性而言，定个25%的关税似乎挺合理的。
HunterSpecial1549
27% isn't high enough to stop people from preferring the new Chinese EVs.
This is a genuine problem for German carmakers and thus the whole German economy. Even if you keep Chinese EVs out of Europe they will still take over the rest of the world and wipe out much of German export revenue.
27%的税率还不足以让人们放弃选择中国的新款电动汽车。
这对德国汽车制造商，乃至整个德国经济来说，都是一个实实在在的难题。即便你把中国电动车挡在欧洲门外，它们依然会占领世界其他地区，从而大幅蚕食德国的大部分出口收入。
MrKoxu
You are saying it like the German carmakers are the victims. That's what happens when you sell overpriced cars with nothing but plastic on the inside and suddenly a competitor with more affordable cars comes into the market.
你说得好像德国车企是受害者似的。当你卖着死贵的车，内饰却只有廉价塑料，这时候突然冒出来一个竞争对手，卖的车更实惠，那这就是你该承受的结局。
Eastern-Vegetable780
The issue - and I say this as a EU citizen driving EU cars - is that at this point our cars are not just more expensive. They are obxtively worse, at least in the mid-range market which is where volumes are.
问题在于——作为一个开着欧洲车的欧盟公民，我这么说——现在的欧洲车不仅仅是贵。它们是客观上变差了，至少在走量的中端市场上是这样。
HunterSpecial1549
I don't know how you read that in to it, I'm happy to see China do well.
我不知道你怎么会读出这种意思，我其实很乐见中国发展得好。
PoIIux
But hey, at least they can pivot to transforming more of their defunct car factories into producing weaponry for Israel's global terrorism
不过话说回来，至少他们还能转型嘛，把更多废弃的汽车工厂改造成武器工厂，专门给以色列的全球恐怖活动提供弹药。
every_day_regular
Snickers in Canadian
加拿大人发出了那种尴尬又不失礼貌的微笑。
Revenga8
They're letting them in Canada now. Just slap a Toyota emblem on it and drive it through the border. Or from Mexico, I hear they're popular there too
加拿大现在也放行让它们进了。你只要贴个丰田的车标，就能大摇大摆地开过边境。哦对了，或者从墨西哥进，我听说那边也很流行这招。
Own_Reaction9442
You can drive one to the US as a visitor. The problem will come when you try to register it and the VIN isn't one licensed for import.
I guess you could put on a Toyota VIN plate, but someone's gonna check the VIN on the frx, too, and then the car's getting crushed and you're going to federal prison for VIN fraud.
作为访客，你确实可以把车开到美国去。但真正的问题在于，当你想给车上牌时，会发现它的车架号并没有获得进口许可。
我想你或许可以伪造一个丰田的车架号铭牌，但人家也会检查车架上的钢印号。到时候，车会被直接压成废铁，而你则因为车辆识别码欺诈罪，直接进联邦监狱吃牢饭。
forestflowersdvm
Can I just have a Canadian keep it registered there
那我能不能找个加拿大人，把车挂在他名下，就在那边上牌照？
miaogato
oshit your byd's are coming in from the Toyota importer too?
here in Portugal the Toyota importer is also responsible for almost if not every Chinese EV brand lMao.
卧槽，你们的比亚迪也是通过丰田的经销商进来的？
在葡萄牙这边，丰田的经销商居然也代理了几乎所有的中国电动车品牌，笑死我了。
granoladeer
Well, depends on the country
这个嘛，得看具体是哪个国家。
Laimered
Why do you assume that everyone is fucking american?
你凭什么默认所有人特么都是美国人？
OrthodoxAtheist
Approximately 43% to over 49% of Reddit's user base is based in the United States, making it the largest user demographic. While the US dominates traffic (often cited near 48-50%), the platform has a significant international presence, with the UK, Canada, and India following in user traffic.
If you're going to make an assumption, it isn't a bad one. You'll be right almost 50% of the time, despite their being more than two countries in the world. That's a pretty decent guess in my book.
Reddit 的用户群里，大概有43%到49%以上都来自美国，这让美国人成了最大的用户群体。虽然美国确实占据了流量的主导地位（通常数据都在48%-50%左右），但这平台在国际上也有不少用户，紧随其后的就是英国、加拿大和印度。
所以，如果你非要瞎猜的话，猜美国人也算不上什么坏主意。虽然世界上有两百多个国家，但你这么猜差不多有一半的几率是对的。在我看来，这概率已经挺不错了。
Historical-Bug-7536
American website, in English, majority of traffic comes from US, majority of the sub is American.
这是美国网站，使用英文，大部分流量来自美国，该板块的用户也以美国人为主。
Letronell
It still is cheaper, but no maintenance option is what really kills the deal.
便宜是便宜，但这车没法做保养，这才是真正让人下不了手的地方。
Dear_House5774
You cant import cars into the us that were never originally sold in the US UNLESS they are at least 25 years old.
你根本没法把那些从未在美国本土发售过的车进口到美国，除非它们的车龄至少满25年。
OrthodoxAtheist
For now. BYD's first hybrid was made in 2008, which means Americans can important them beginning in 2033/2034, which means we can expect the law to be upxed close to that date, to further protect to the US auto industry from dying as a result of its own mediocrity.
目前来说还是这样。但比亚迪的第一款混动车是2008年造的，这就意味着美国人要到2033或2034年才能进口它们。也就是说，我们可以预计，美国会在那前后修改相关法律，进一步保护本国汽车行业，免得它因自身平庸而彻底消亡。
MMessinger
Thank heavens, here in the US we're protecting domestic EV innovation.
Just ignore the fact there's really no "domestic EV innovation" going on, in the US. I mean, after manufacturers agreed in NACS, most of them just rolled back their EV production.
谢天谢地，咱们美国这是在“保护”本土的电动车创新呢。
不过大家就假装没看见吧，反正美国其实压根就没有什么“本土电动车创新”。我是说，自从各大厂商同意用NACS（北美充电标准）之后，他们大多数干脆就把电动车的生产计划给撤了。
roofie_Rubio7
Don't let this distract you from the fact In a few years China will have a base on the moon, this is no surprise
别被这事儿分了心，别忘了，过不了几年中国就要在月球上建基地了，这完全没什么好惊讶的。
Wasatchbl
Welcome to the United States. Where we preach about capitalism and the free market but prohibit competition that could benefit the consumer at the cost of the billionaires
Edit: I want to emphasize that this is not a political thing, although the United States government protects the billionaires. This is entirely a class thing and propaganda. Ford and Chevy did not go out of business during the '70s when Toyota and Datsun entered the market. If they wanted a true capitalist and free market economy, then open it up to everyone and let the best product with the best quality win.
欢迎来到美国：在这里我们大肆宣扬资本主义与自由市场，却禁止那些能惠及消费者、却会损害富豪利益的竞争。
补充说明：我想强调，这本质上不是政治问题—— 尽管美国政府确实在维护富豪利益。这完完全全是阶级问题与宣传洗脑。
上世纪70年代丰田和达特桑（Datsun）进入美国市场时，福特和雪佛兰也没有倒闭。如果他们真的信奉资本主义与自由市场经济，那就应该全面开放市场，让品质最优、产品最好的一方胜出。
Careful_Appeal5400
Hypocrisy is high up there in American values, so this outcome is as expected.
虚伪早已深植于美国的价值观之中，所以这种结果完全在意料之内。
rwinh
It's like that "American Dream" thing they try to convince others they have, value and focus on.
They quietly mutter "at the expense of others under their breath" and don't tell anyone it only applies to the already rich or highly connected, and usually only those who are white.
这就像那个所谓的“美国梦”，他们拼命想让别人相信，这是他们拥有、珍视并为之奋斗的东西。
但他们私底下却会小声嘀咕“这是踩着别人的肩膀换来的”，而且从来不告诉别人，这个梦只属于那些本来就富有或者人脉通天的人，而且通常还得是白人。
BrockObarnerLybian
This makes no sense
这完全说不通。
HunterSpecial1549
Tesla would be completely annihilated if there was an even playing field vs Chinese EVs. Think of poor Elon.
如果真能公平竞争，特斯拉早就被中国电动车打得渣都不剩了。想想可怜的埃隆吧
Toowoombaloompa
Here in Australia we have no domestic car industry to protect, so have a pretty even playing field for all models of car.
Tesla have been the best selling brand of EV for some time, but their market share has been slipping as more competitors come to market.
Tesla remained the top seller of electric vehicles, reporting 28,856 registrations in 2025, but the brand was down 24.8 per cent compared to 2024's 38,347, let alone its record result of more than 46,000 in 2023.
Combined with increased competition, the US giant's share of the EV market has dropped to 27.9 per cent, from 41.9 per cent in 2024, 52.9 per cent in 2023, and 59 per cent in 2022.
Source: https://www.drive.com.au/news/australias-best-selling-electric-cars-in-2025-by-model-and-brand/
We only get the 3 and the Y here. The S and X stopped being made in RHD and the Cybertruck probably needs extensive upxes to become compliant.
Ignoring Elon for a moment, Tesla have done a really good job of taking EVs mainstream. They're good looking cars with performance and features that European competitors couldn't match. When production shifted to China, quality went up and prices went down.
But BYD (and other Chinese brands) have been quietly releasing cars of a decent quality at a price that's hard to refuse. We love our utes (pickup trucks) in Australia and the BYD Shark 6 has been a huge success. A plug-in hybrid that's luxurious inside, Raptor-eating performance, but base Ranger pricing. They've just launched their Denza luxury brand here and reviewers are saying they're comparable to Land Cruisers!
And then there's Elon. Impossible to say how much of Tesla's downturn has been because of him, but anecdata suggests it's a factor.
在澳大利亚，我们没有本土汽车产业需要保护，因此所有车型都能在相当公平的竞争环境中发展。特斯拉曾长期是最畅销的电动汽车品牌，但随着更多竞争对手进入市场，其市场份额持续下滑。
2025年，特斯拉仍以28856辆的注册量位居电动汽车销量榜首，但较2024年的38347辆下降24.8%，更远低于2023年超过46,000辆的历史纪录。叠加竞争加剧，这家美国巨头的电动汽车市场份额从2022年的59%、2023年的52.9%、2024年的41.9%，降至27.9%。
我们这里只卖Model 3和Model Y。Model S与 Model X已停产右舵版，而赛博皮卡可能需要大幅修改才能满足合规要求。
先不谈埃隆（马斯克），特斯拉在推动电动汽车大众化方面做得非常出色。它的车型颜值高、性能强、配置丰富，欧洲竞品难以匹敌。产能转移至中国后，品质提升、价格下降。
但比亚迪（及其他中国品牌）一直在以难以拒绝的价格推出品质过硬的车型。澳大利亚人酷爱皮卡，比亚迪鲨鱼6大获成功 —— 这款插电混动皮卡内饰豪华、性能碾压福特猛禽，起售价却与福特Ranger相当。比亚迪刚在澳洲推出高端品牌腾势，评测机构称其可与丰田陆巡媲美！
然后就是埃隆本人。很难说特斯拉的下滑有多少是他造成的，但坊间迹象表明，这是重要因素之一。
woollinthorpe
Well said. Tesla makes a fine automobile; minus the Cyberturck, the mandatory subscxtion services, the ability to remotely turn them off if you drive somewhere they don't want you to, and the models that don't have actual door handles resulting in people dying fiery deaths when they can't escape... I have just disliked Musk as a person for as long as I can remember so I'm biased.
Now I'm very interested in learning more about the Shark 6!
说得好。特斯拉的车确实造得不错；除了Cybertruck（赛博皮卡）那个奇葩，还有那些强制订阅的服务，以及那种如果你开到了他们不想让你去的地方，他们就能远程把车关机的功能……更别提那些连个正经门把手都没有的车型，导致出事儿时人根本逃不出来，只能被活活烧死……
不过话说回来，我打小就不待见马斯克这个人，所以我肯定有偏见。现在我倒是特别想去好好了解一下那个比亚迪鲨鱼6
woollinthorpe
It's already being accounted for. Tesla recently discontinued the model S and model X to focus on robotics and Ai. He has to shift the source of revenue to wherever the government subsides are (see also SpaceX). Worlds wealthiest welfare queen. Socialism for me, not for thee.
这笔账早就被算进去了。特斯拉最近停产了 Model S 和 Model X，就是为了把精力都转到机器人和AI上。他必须把收入来源转移到政府有补贴的地方去（看看 SpaceX 就知道了）。简直是全球最富有的“福利女王”。。典型的“社会主义归我，自由市场归你”
NotAskary
It's not even the first time this shit happens, Harley exists because of protectionism, the Japanese manufacturers almost killed it a few times.
这种破事根本不是第一次发生。哈雷摩托能活到今天，完全是因为贸易保护主义，日本车企好几次都差点把它干死。
a_black_angus_cow
yeah, now its not just about capitalism, but every other american value.
没错，这事儿早就不仅仅是资本主义的问题了，美国所有的价值观估计都逃不过这个套路。
Wisear
the free market
free to exploit to the max
自由市场
就是可以肆无忌惮把你压榨到极致的自由
Ky_TheDestroyer7
The Battery Deatomiser 3000.
电池原子粉碎者 3000 型（要你命3000）
sigjnf
You’ll be delighted to learn that BYD is the world’s largest and most innovative battery company. They started out by making batteries. You’re using one right now, inside your phone. Guys know what they’re doing.
你会很高兴地了解到：比亚迪是全球规模最大、最具创新力的电池企业。他们最初就是从生产电池起家的。
你现在正在使用的手机里，就有他们造的电池。这帮人是真的懂行。
Cptn_Shiner
But my phone battery sucks.
但我这手机电池简直烂透了。
Hazril258
Considering that we constantly charge and use our phones while they're barely empty despite the manual saying specifically not to do that, it's not surprising.
Not to mention that just 30 years ago, a battery twice the size would only be able to power audio calls and maybe a game of pre-installed Tetris for a day.
咱们这帮人，手机明明还没怎么耗电，却总是不停地充、不停地用，完全无视说明书上别这么干的警告。所以电池烂也是意料之中的事儿，一点都不奇怪。
再说了，倒退个30年，那时候电池比现在大两倍，也就只能撑一天的功夫——除了打打电话，顶多再玩玩那个自带的俄罗斯方块。
miaogato
games for a day? Nokia 3310 perhaps but _30 years ago_ batteries hardly handled 3h calls
玩一整天游戏？也就诺基亚3310能做到吧。但30年前，电池连3小时通话都撑不住。
RamblinRichard
Yeah, I remember when the first iphones came out. You would be very lucky to get to the end of the day and it didn't run out before you got home even using it sparingly. Now sometimes I don't charge my phone for a couple of days and still use it for 3-4 hours screentime in that time. Batteries have gotten significantly better, at least in phones.
是啊，我还记得初代iPhone刚出来的时候。就算省着用，能撑到晚上回家还没电关机都算运气超好。现在我有时候好几天不充电，期间屏幕使用时间还能有3-4小时。电池技术进步真的太大了，至少在手机上是这样。
FranseFrikandel
Eh, big reason that phone batteries wear out so quick is just inherent to how they're used. You go through roughly a full battery each day on a phone, probably closer to once a week on a large car. Then, to maximize battery life, phones will use absolutely all of the battery. Most EVs will only cycle at like 80%.
Think about it, if a battery has a 500 cycle life, a phone won't last 2 years. A car with a 600km (372mi) range will last 300.000 km (186000mi)
Then many EVs now use LFP cells, which last a lot longer than NMC batteries too, however they're not used in phones since they're not quite as energy and power dense.
呃，手机电池之所以坏得这么快，主要还是由它的用法决定的。你想想，手机基本上每天都要把电用光一次，而大车可能一周才用一次。而且，为了榨干每一滴电量，手机恨不得把电池用到“底朝天”。但大多数电动车为了保命，只会用电池80%的容量。
算笔账你就懂了：如果电池寿命是500次循环，那手机撑死也就用两年。但一辆续航600公里的电动车，能跑30万公里呢！
再说了，现在很多电动车都用磷酸铁锂电池，这玩意儿比三元锂电池耐用多了。不过手机用不了它，因为它的能量密度和功率密度不够高，塞不进手机里。
mmmmchi
bro really comparing a car battery with a phone battery
老哥居然真拿汽车电池跟手机电池做比较，也是绝了。
OnceIsawthisthing
They claim 80% charge after 55 years, backed up with repeated tests. Often times outliving the car body, seats, and likely even the driver.
EDIT:
I'm moving this lix to my top post because I'm tired of responding to AI bots:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772683526000245
EDIT 2:
Because this ended up sending me down a rabbit hole. Here's a fun convo. Again this isn't a prototype. You can buy them, the cars. The charging stations exist. 5000+
https://youtu.be/ymQ1sHjdXVY?si=rX99MlC-rWv2pSVG
他们宣称（电池）在55年后还能保持80%的健康度，而且这结论是经过反复测试验证的。这电池经常比车架子、座椅，甚至可能连车主本人都活得都久。
编辑：
我把这个链接置顶，因为我实在懒得再跟那些AI机器人解释了：
编辑2：
这事最后让我越挖越深。这里有一段有趣的讨论。再说一次，这不是原型产品。这些车你现在就能买到，充电站也已经存在，数量超过 5000座。
Ratattack1204
I want to believe tho
不过我还是愿意选择相信的。
OnceIsawthisthing
Ok, I'll Google it for you:
https://www.fastcompany.com/91503415/byd-ev-battery-competes-with-gas-engines
TL;DR:
Key Details on BYD's Battery Advancements Lifespan (30–50+ Years): The new battery technologies, particularly the sodium-ion cells, are rated for 10,000 cycles. For the average driver (approx. 13,500 miles/year), this equates to roughly 55 years of use before reaching significant degradation.
EDIT: "Where can you charge it though?", you certainly will ask:
BYD has launched a 1.5-megawatt (1,500 kW) "Flash" charging system, with 5,000 stations already operational. These chargers, featuring a T-shaped design, can charge compatible EVs from 10% to 97% in under 9 minutes, even in extreme cold. BYD plans a massive expansion to 20,000 stations by the end of 2026, primarily targeting highway corridors and citie
行吧，我帮你谷歌一下发给你：简单总结一下（TL;DR）：关于比亚迪电池技术的关键细节。寿命（30–50年以上）： 新的电池技术（特别是钠离子电池）评级为1万次循环。对于普通司机（每年约13500英里）来说，这意味着在出现明显衰减之前，可以用上整整55年。
编辑： 你肯定会问“那上哪儿充去呢？”
比亚迪已经推出了1500千瓦的“闪充”系统，目前已有5000个充电站投入运营。这些采用 T 型设计的充电桩，甚至在极寒天气下，也能在9分钟内将兼容的电动车电量从10%充到97%。比亚迪计划在2026年底前大规模扩建至2万个充电站，主要覆盖高速公路走廊和城市区域。
Ratattack1204
No i get that they CLAIM this. I don’t believe it’s an accurate claim. We’ll see when non Chinese reviewers give it a go.
我明白他们宣称是这么回事，但我不相信这个说法是真实准确的。等非中国评测人士实际测试之后，咱们再看结果。
Octopus_O
They have also claimed the original purchaser of the car will get a lifetime warranty of the battery. 77.5% of the original range is the trigger to get a new battery. The current warranties of the BYD cars being sold here is 8 years/250,000 kms to 70% of original range.
他们还宣称，车辆首任车主可享受电池终身质保。当电池续航低于原厂标称续航的77.5%时，即可更换新电池。目前在本地销售的比亚迪车型，现有质保政策为：8年/25万公里，期间电池容量不低于原厂标称的70%。
PineappleOwn5325
That already exists in north america, except it's exclusively used for buses, and it's not very commonly installed because it takes a shitload of power, which cities are not willing to accomodate for. Which is perfectly reasonable
北美那边其实早就有了，不过只用在公交车上。而且装得也不多，因为这玩意儿太费电了，城市电网根本扛不住，也不愿意为它专门扩容。这也正常。
Jazzyoutro
Nice, but would love to see long term review if it starts in some other country.
挺好的，不过要是这车能在别的国家开卖，我倒真想看看长期使用后的测评
daurgo2001
They’re already in Mexico, and Canada has just opened up to receiving Chinese EV’s after trump’s tariffs.
它们已经进入墨西哥市场，而在特朗普的关税政策之后，加拿大刚刚开放对中国电动汽车的进口。
organic-water-
BYD is VERY popular in Mexico.
比亚迪在墨西哥可是火得一塌糊涂。
Jazzyoutro
I meant these superfast chargers they just launched.
我说的是他们刚推出的这些超级快充充电桩。
Windsdochange
They’re launching the superfast chargers across Europe this year. I read up on them when they were announcing their release a while back, the technology really is phenomenal.
他们今年将在整个欧洲推出超级快充充电桩。当初他们官宣的时候我就仔细研究过，这技术简直逆天
Kip-o
I used a BYD for a while in Australia, was a fantastic car. It’s already in other countries.
我在澳大利亚开过一段时间比亚迪，车非常棒。它已经进入其他国家市场了。
Pandustin
At least in Germany we have huge issues with the charging stations not delivering enough output. While in theory they can and are marketed that way, they barely hold up to their promises.
至少在德国，我们面临一个大问题：充电桩实际输出功率严重不足。理论上和宣传上它们确实能达到标称功率，但实际根本达不到承诺的效果。
g_bleezy
Just got back from Mexico and was ubering around. 8/10 rides were in a slick BYD or MG. They didn’t seem cheap but they weren’t luxury either. I wish it were an option in states!
刚从墨西哥回来，全程都在打网约车。10趟里有8趟坐的都是帅气的比亚迪或名爵。这些车看起来不廉价，但也算不上豪华。真希望美国也能买到！
e_line_65
I rode in a BYD in Portugal when I uber’d from the airport. I concur that it did not seem cheap. Although it was only a 20 minute ride, it seemed like a decent car.
之前从机场打车，在葡萄牙也坐了回比亚迪。我同意，那车确实不显廉价。虽说就坐了20分钟，但感觉还挺靠谱的。
ManBunH8er
Can us poor Americans get BYD out here as well? We have that cheap car overhyped shit from Elon.
我们这些可怜的美国人啥时候也能开上比亚迪啊？我们这儿只有马斯克卖的那些廉价又过度炒作的垃圾车。
Mysterious_Tutor_388
Nah your car companies will prevent them from being sold there so they don't have to compete with a free market.
不会的，美国车企肯定会从中阻挠，不让比亚迪进入当地市场销售。毕竟，他们不想在自由市场环境中和比亚迪硬碰硬。
HunterSpecial1549
No, I'm sorry. We must keep Elon from going bankrupt.
不，抱歉。我们必须避免让埃隆破产。
Dreboomboom
Okay, serious question about BYD. How good is the build quality of these cars. I've seen you tube vids where many of these cars were just complete nightmares.
Has there been some serious changes with BYD.
我想严肃地探讨一下比亚迪的情况。这些汽车的制造质量到底处于什么水平？我在视频平台上看到过许多案例，显示这些车存在严重的质量问题。不知比亚迪近期是否发生了根本性的转变？
Octopus_O
They are everywhere in Australia. A guy I work with has had one for a few years and loves it. Ive ridden in a fair few ubers that were BYDs and they are impressive. They are considered the top tier of affordable EVs over here.
比亚迪在澳洲市场的普及率非常高。我有位同事拥有该车已有数年，使用体验极佳。此外，我在多次搭乘网约车时也曾接触过比亚迪，其车辆素质确实令人印象深刻。在当地市场，它们被视为经济型电动汽车领域的最佳选择。
AutisticSuperpower
The ones shown blowing smoke on YouTube would NOT be allowed in Australia or the EU, so I can believe BYD would be made to tighten up the manufacturing on export models for the Western market, if not by the CCP then by the governments of receiving countries. Money talks, after all.
那些在YouTube上展示冒烟故障的车辆，绝对无法通过澳大利亚或欧盟的准入标准。因此，我完全相信，无论是迫于中国监管部门的压力，还是受制于进口国政府的法规，比亚迪都会针对西方市场收紧出口车型的制造工艺。毕竟，经济利益才是最终的驱动力。
WalkMaximum
I had an uber ride in one, the interior looked very cheap but it got us to our destination as well as any other car. I'd still prefer VW ID or R5 or Hyundai or Mazda.
我曾搭乘过一辆比亚迪网约车，其内饰看起来颇为廉价，不过在将乘客送达目的地这一基本功能上，它与其他车辆并无二致。尽管如此，我个人的偏好依然倾向于大众ID系列、R5、现代或马自达。
YoPappi
Drove Euro cars all my life, BYD interiors are surprisingly impressive. Go for a test drive!
作为一名长期驾驶欧系车的用户，我不得不承认比亚迪的内饰表现超出了我的预期，着实令人瞩目。不妨去亲身体验一下试驾吧
Gutterpump
All these comments sound like ads..
这些评论读起来怎么都像广告似的……
trigger2k20
I've been driving it in the UK for the last few weeks. Phenomenal build quality with insane tech that would only be available in top trim levels of European cars.
I drive a Sealion 7; it's spacious comparing to a European car. Boot size is a bit meh, but I can put a pram in it, which is good. I used to drive a Mercedes C-class, and the BYD outperforms it in tech, drive performance and quality.
I test-drove an EQB, and everything was rattling. I didn't even get half of the tech in the EQB that's in my BYD.
My Sealion 7 is the entry-level comfort trim. It doesn't have a dual-motor setup or a heads-up display, and it has a slightly smaller battery.
I don't regret my purchase at all.
过去几周我一直在英国开这款车。做工品质极其出色，搭载的黑科技只有欧洲车的顶配版本才会配备。
我开的是比亚迪海豹7：相比欧洲车，它空间很宽敞。后备箱空间一般般，但能放下婴儿车，这点很不错。我以前开奔驰C级，而比亚迪在科技配置、驾驶质感和做工品质上都超越了它。
我试驾过奔驰EQB，车里到处都有异响。而且我这辆比亚迪上的科技配置，EQB连一半都达不到。我的海豹7是入门舒适版，没有双电机、没有HUD抬头显示功能，电池也稍小一点。但我完全不后悔买它。
Optimal-Talk3663
They’re actually quite good. Had an Atto as a rental, and it was fine (like a Yaris or Jazz build). Also drove the Sealion, and that was good.
实际上，它们的表现相当不错。我曾租用过一辆Atto（比亚迪在海外命名Atto 3，国内对应元PLUS），整体体验良好（其做工质感与 Yaris丰田雅力士或Jazz本田飞度相当）。我也曾驾驶过海狮，那款车的表现也值得肯定。
Math-e
Brazilian units are very good quality-build wise. They only have 3 years in the market though so I wouldn't give a definitive call until the earliest unit warrant expires in 3 years. Some drivers are reaching 200k km with no problems and more than 90% battery health so that's something.
Their biggest problems are items choice and ergonomy. Like the Dolphin in my house has a super powerful wireless phone charger but zero backseat lighting. The gear knob is not very confortable to use and most AC controls are on the touch screen
巴西版本的车型做工质量非常好。鉴于其进入市场仅三年，我认为在首批车辆的质保期结束之前，尚不宜下定论。不过，确实有部分驾驶员已行驶达20万公里且未出现故障，电池健康度保持在90%以上，这无疑是一个积极的信号。
其最大的问题在于配置取舍与人机工程学设计。以我家的海豚车型为例，它配备了功率极高的无线手机充电器，但后排完全没有照明灯。此外，换挡旋钮的操作手感欠佳，且大部分空调控制功能都集成在触摸屏上
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