新西兰首位公开变性的奥运选手参加东京奥运会
正文翻译
Laurel Hubbard made history on August 2, 2021, by becoming the first openly transgender weightlifter to take part in the Olympic Games. The New Zealander competed in the women’s +87kg category at the Tokyo Games, but made a sudden exit after failing to record a lift. Born male but transitioned to female in her 30s, Hubbard was allowed to compete in the women’s event by a 2015 International Olympic Committee (IOC) consensus.
2021年8月2日，劳雷尔·哈伯德成为第一个公开参加奥运会的变性举重运动员。这位新西兰人参加了东京奥运会女子+87公斤级项目的比赛，但在未能获得举重成绩后突然退出。哈伯德出生为男性，但30多岁时转变为女性，经2015年国际奥委会（国际奥委会）达成共识，哈伯德被允许参加女子比赛。
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New Zealand’s first openly transgender Olympian competes in Tokyo Games
新西兰首位公开变性的奥运选手参加东京奥运会
新西兰首位公开变性的奥运选手参加东京奥运会
Laurel Hubbard made history on August 2, 2021, by becoming the first openly transgender weightlifter to take part in the Olympic Games. The New Zealander competed in the women’s +87kg category at the Tokyo Games, but made a sudden exit after failing to record a lift. Born male but transitioned to female in her 30s, Hubbard was allowed to compete in the women’s event by a 2015 International Olympic Committee (IOC) consensus.
2021年8月2日，劳雷尔·哈伯德成为第一个公开参加奥运会的变性举重运动员。这位新西兰人参加了东京奥运会女子+87公斤级项目的比赛，但在未能获得举重成绩后突然退出。哈伯德出生为男性，但30多岁时转变为女性，经2015年国际奥委会（国际奥委会）达成共识，哈伯德被允许参加女子比赛。
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roomforlove
How is this possible...they throw out track and field athletes with naturally high testosterone but allow people who willingly change their gender to compete? What am I missing?
怎么可以这样.....他们把天生睾丸素高的女性田径运动员赶了出去，却允许那些自愿改变性别的人参加比赛？我是不是错过了什么？
How is this possible...they throw out track and field athletes with naturally high testosterone but allow people who willingly change their gender to compete? What am I missing?
怎么可以这样.....他们把天生睾丸素高的女性田径运动员赶了出去，却允许那些自愿改变性别的人参加比赛？我是不是错过了什么？
Winning Falcon
This is our world now.
这就是我们现在的世界。
This is our world now.
这就是我们现在的世界。
Bilirubin
They also didn't accept athletes who born with klinefelter, hipospadia or intersex (especially if they came from 3rd world countries), but they accept a transwoman (especially if they came from rich countries)
他们也不接受那些生来就有克莱内费尔特症、髋关节炎或双性的运动员（尤其是如果他们来自第三世界国家），但他们能接受跨性别者（尤其是如果他们来自富裕国家）。
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They also didn't accept athletes who born with klinefelter, hipospadia or intersex (especially if they came from 3rd world countries), but they accept a transwoman (especially if they came from rich countries)
他们也不接受那些生来就有克莱内费尔特症、髋关节炎或双性的运动员（尤其是如果他们来自第三世界国家），但他们能接受跨性别者（尤其是如果他们来自富裕国家）。
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beatrice lim
Ridiculous to ban the women with high testosterone. What can they do about it... Force themselves to take hormone therapy?! So unfair
禁止睾酮水平高的女性参赛是很可笑的。她们能做些什么呢。强迫自己接受激素治疗吗？！太不公平了
Ridiculous to ban the women with high testosterone. What can they do about it... Force themselves to take hormone therapy?! So unfair
禁止睾酮水平高的女性参赛是很可笑的。她们能做些什么呢。强迫自己接受激素治疗吗？！太不公平了
extremeblue psyche
Testosterone levels is the key. Athletes must be below a certain level before they can compete in the women's division. The trans athlete passed the test.
睾酮水平是关键。运动员必须低于一定级别才能参加女子级别的比赛。这个跨性别运动员通过了测试。
Testosterone levels is the key. Athletes must be below a certain level before they can compete in the women's division. The trans athlete passed the test.
睾酮水平是关键。运动员必须低于一定级别才能参加女子级别的比赛。这个跨性别运动员通过了测试。
K_Abby
An athlete with high testosterone just won a silver medal today in the 200m for women
一名睾酮水平高的运动员今天刚刚在女子200米比赛中获得银牌
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An athlete with high testosterone just won a silver medal today in the 200m for women
一名睾酮水平高的运动员今天刚刚在女子200米比赛中获得银牌
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shippou21
I think this is solely depends on the federation. Maybe the weightlifting federation is more lenient. They're in a scrutiny nowadays by the IOC for bribing cases, so they try to fix their image a bit.
IOC is threatening to wipe out weightlifting you know.
我认为这完全取决于联合会。也许举重联合会比较宽松。他们现在正处于国际奥委会对贿赂案件的审查之中，所以他们试图修复自己的形象。
国际奥委会正威胁要消灭举重运动，你知道吗？
I think this is solely depends on the federation. Maybe the weightlifting federation is more lenient. They're in a scrutiny nowadays by the IOC for bribing cases, so they try to fix their image a bit.
IOC is threatening to wipe out weightlifting you know.
我认为这完全取决于联合会。也许举重联合会比较宽松。他们现在正处于国际奥委会对贿赂案件的审查之中，所以他们试图修复自己的形象。
国际奥委会正威胁要消灭举重运动，你知道吗？
irene
Exactly, it makes me angry
没错，这让我很生气
Exactly, it makes me angry
没错，这让我很生气
Ann Miller
It’s called 2021 & we just HAVE to protect the snowflakes feelings
这就是2021年，我们要千方百计保护雪花代的感情不受伤害
（雪花代：指新出生的一代像雪花一样脆弱）
It’s called 2021 & we just HAVE to protect the snowflakes feelings
这就是2021年，我们要千方百计保护雪花代的感情不受伤害
（雪花代：指新出生的一代像雪花一样脆弱）
MrGMilitary
cant wait to see Transgender man to complete in swimming .....
迫不及待地想看到跨性别者去参加游泳项目了......
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cant wait to see Transgender man to complete in swimming .....
迫不及待地想看到跨性别者去参加游泳项目了......
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Pete C
I feel sorry for the women atheletes who trained YEARS for this event
我为那些为这次活动训练了多年的女运动员感到难过
I feel sorry for the women atheletes who trained YEARS for this event
我为那些为这次活动训练了多年的女运动员感到难过
Wrath Troll
The Olympic committee doesn't, and the people who keep watching them trash women's rights don't either..
奥委会不这么认为，那些一直看着他们糟蹋妇女权利的人也不这么认为。
The Olympic committee doesn't, and the people who keep watching them trash women's rights don't either..
奥委会不这么认为，那些一直看着他们糟蹋妇女权利的人也不这么认为。
Edy Hiun
Li wenwen crush him with olympic record.
好在李雯雯以破奥运记录的成绩粉碎了他。
Li wenwen crush him with olympic record.
好在李雯雯以破奥运记录的成绩粉碎了他。
o_o
@Edy Hiun lin wenwen talent is inhumane, she's amazing
Edit: i mean she's 20(?) and already broke an olympic record.. that's just incredible
@Edy Hiun李雯雯才华简直是非人类的，她太棒了
编辑：我的意思是她今年才20岁（？）就已经打破了奥运会的纪录。这真是令人难以置信
@Edy Hiun lin wenwen talent is inhumane, she's amazing
Edit: i mean she's 20(?) and already broke an olympic record.. that's just incredible
@Edy Hiun李雯雯才华简直是非人类的，她太棒了
编辑：我的意思是她今年才20岁（？）就已经打破了奥运会的纪录。这真是令人难以置信
pete
I feel sorry for all the women athletes who’ve trained so hard
我为所有训练如此努力的女运动员感到难过
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I feel sorry for all the women athletes who’ve trained so hard
我为所有训练如此努力的女运动员感到难过
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zephyrot 3
Hate comment will arive in 1 2 3
喷子马上到达战场 3 2 1
Hate comment will arive in 1 2 3
喷子马上到达战场 3 2 1
Gavri Gavri
Great news she didn't get any medals
好消息是她没有获得任何奖牌
Great news she didn't get any medals
好消息是她没有获得任何奖牌
Alam Alam
Women who spend entire life become athelete:"All my years of training is wasted huh?"
那些花了一辈子时间成为运动员的女人："我多年的训练都白费了啊？"
Women who spend entire life become athelete:"All my years of training is wasted huh?"
那些花了一辈子时间成为运动员的女人："我多年的训练都白费了啊？"
Gazoro Blake
It is so unfair to those who are born biologically female. Those who identify as transgender should have their own separate category.
这对那些生来在生物学上就是女性的人来说太不公平了。那些被认定为跨性别者的人应该有自己独立的类别。
It is so unfair to those who are born biologically female. Those who identify as transgender should have their own separate category.
这对那些生来在生物学上就是女性的人来说太不公平了。那些被认定为跨性别者的人应该有自己独立的类别。
demon king
i agree man ...
我同意
i agree man ...
我同意
demon king
there should be more than more gender ..for compition...not 2 by default
应该有更多的性别…而不是只有默认的两个
there should be more than more gender ..for compition...not 2 by default
应该有更多的性别…而不是只有默认的两个
Pekoko big kusa
@demon king yeah i would like attack helicopter gender
@demon king 嗯，我会把我的性别识别为直升机
（注：“我将性标识为攻击直升机”是伊莎贝尔·法尔（Isabel Fall）的军事科幻短篇小说，于2020年1月9日在Clarkesworld杂志上出版。这个故事讲述了巴布（Barb）的经历，她的性别已重新分配给“攻击直升机”，以使她成为一名更好的飞行员。它是2021年雨果奖的入围者，标题是“直升机故事”。）
@demon king yeah i would like attack helicopter gender
@demon king 嗯，我会把我的性别识别为直升机
（注：“我将性标识为攻击直升机”是伊莎贝尔·法尔（Isabel Fall）的军事科幻短篇小说，于2020年1月9日在Clarkesworld杂志上出版。这个故事讲述了巴布（Barb）的经历，她的性别已重新分配给“攻击直升机”，以使她成为一名更好的飞行员。它是2021年雨果奖的入围者，标题是“直升机故事”。）
xuimod
Being born female is a disadvantage?
天生的女性现在是一种劣势了？
Being born female is a disadvantage?
天生的女性现在是一种劣势了？
Xojix
@xuimod in comparison to men, on the aspect of biological strength, yes.
@xuimod 与男性相比，在生物力量方面，是的。
@xuimod in comparison to men, on the aspect of biological strength, yes.
@xuimod 与男性相比，在生物力量方面，是的。
G.O.A.T
They wouldn't want a separate olympics because it will not have prestige and fame
他们不会想要一个跨性别者单独的奥运会，因为它不会有声望和名声
They wouldn't want a separate olympics because it will not have prestige and fame
他们不会想要一个跨性别者单独的奥运会，因为它不会有声望和名声
Adamas
Unfair,Women sport dominan trans atlantic
这不公平，女性运动以后会被跨性别者所统治
Unfair,Women sport dominan trans atlantic
这不公平，女性运动以后会被跨性别者所统治
Horizon Zero
Yes. It definitely unfair. Later, people will abuse this loophole.
是的。这绝对是不公平的。以后，人们会滥用这个漏洞。
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Yes. It definitely unfair. Later, people will abuse this loophole.
是的。这绝对是不公平的。以后，人们会滥用这个漏洞。
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extremeblue psyche
@Arichi Politics is part of sports. Seems like society is heading down the "progressive" route - the number of genders increase everyday.
@Arichi 政治是体育运动的一部分。似乎社会正沿着“进步”的路线前进——性别的数量每天都在增加。
@Arichi Politics is part of sports. Seems like society is heading down the "progressive" route - the number of genders increase everyday.
@Arichi 政治是体育运动的一部分。似乎社会正沿着“进步”的路线前进——性别的数量每天都在增加。
muang faa
@xuimod Although the gender of choice is female, but biologically she has the strength of men.
@xuimod虽然选择的性别是女性，但在生物学上她有男性的力量。
@xuimod Although the gender of choice is female, but biologically she has the strength of men.
@xuimod虽然选择的性别是女性，但在生物学上她有男性的力量。
Zohmingliana Miller
100% true.. Instead of fighting to participate in Women's category they should fight to have thier own category... Its 2021 and womens are still fighting to get equal opportunities and transgender people transitioned yesterday and wants all the rights the next day
100%正确。与其为参加女性组别而战，不如为拥有自己的组别而战...2021年，女性仍在为获得平等机会而奋斗，而跨性别者昨天才变性，第二天就想获得所有权利。
100% true.. Instead of fighting to participate in Women's category they should fight to have thier own category... Its 2021 and womens are still fighting to get equal opportunities and transgender people transitioned yesterday and wants all the rights the next day
100%正确。与其为参加女性组别而战，不如为拥有自己的组别而战...2021年，女性仍在为获得平等机会而奋斗，而跨性别者昨天才变性，第二天就想获得所有权利。
U U
Women have been fighting for equal rights with men a long time. Well, I guess there might be no more separating the boys and girls. LOL
长期以来，妇女一直在为与男子争取平等的权利而斗争。.不过好吧，我想现在可能不会再把男孩和女孩分开了。哈哈哈
Women have been fighting for equal rights with men a long time. Well, I guess there might be no more separating the boys and girls. LOL
长期以来，妇女一直在为与男子争取平等的权利而斗争。.不过好吧，我想现在可能不会再把男孩和女孩分开了。哈哈哈
weibiter saul
yes i agree.thats unfair,he is still a man
是的，我同意这是不公平的，他依然是一个男的
yes i agree.thats unfair,he is still a man
是的，我同意这是不公平的，他依然是一个男的
Fletcher Foster
Based off your logic, races need their own categories too?
根据你的逻辑，不同的种族也需要搞一个自己的类别吗？
Based off your logic, races need their own categories too?
根据你的逻辑，不同的种族也需要搞一个自己的类别吗？
triggered ???
This is the opposite of fairness and equality
这与公平和平等正好相反
This is the opposite of fairness and equality
这与公平和平等正好相反
xuimod
Olympics should be completely nonbinary. That's the only fair way.
奥运会应该完全是非二元性别（既不是男的也不是女的）的。这是唯一公平的方法。
Olympics should be completely nonbinary. That's the only fair way.
奥运会应该完全是非二元性别（既不是男的也不是女的）的。这是唯一公平的方法。
triggered ???
@xuimod no, the fair and equal way is to get trans another division not combining them with another gender
@xuimod不，公平平等的方法是跨性别者自分一组，而不是将他们与另一种性别混合起来
@xuimod no, the fair and equal way is to get trans another division not combining them with another gender
@xuimod不，公平平等的方法是跨性别者自分一组，而不是将他们与另一种性别混合起来
adani amran
@xuimod eh did you know that women and man are biologically different? The non-binary competition won't really work.
@xuimod 呃，你知道女人和男人在生物学上是不同的吗？非二元性别的竞争并不会真正奏效。
@xuimod eh did you know that women and man are biologically different? The non-binary competition won't really work.
@xuimod 呃，你知道女人和男人在生物学上是不同的吗？非二元性别的竞争并不会真正奏效。
grim reaper
They kicked out an actual woman for having higher testosterone ( Caster semenya) but they allow a male born person to compete in the females category. WTH
他们踢掉了一个睾酮激素较高的女性（ Caster semenya），但他们允许男性出生的人在女性类别中竞争。搞什么？
They kicked out an actual woman for having higher testosterone ( Caster semenya) but they allow a male born person to compete in the females category. WTH
他们踢掉了一个睾酮激素较高的女性（ Caster semenya），但他们允许男性出生的人在女性类别中竞争。搞什么？
notbill08
Semenya is an intersex woman, assigned female at birth, with XY chromosomes and naturally elevated testosterone levels. She is technically a man.
Semenya是一名双性女性，出生时被指定为女性，XY染色体都有，睾酮水平自然在一个比较高的水平。严格来说，她是个男人。
Semenya is an intersex woman, assigned female at birth, with XY chromosomes and naturally elevated testosterone levels. She is technically a man.
Semenya是一名双性女性，出生时被指定为女性，XY染色体都有，睾酮水平自然在一个比较高的水平。严格来说，她是个男人。
cindy Queen
Trans women are women, bigot!
跨性别的女性也是女人，偏执狂！
Trans women are women, bigot!
跨性别的女性也是女人，偏执狂！
Bushra
@cindy Queen but that's not what there body was developed like. The women in this video transitioned in her 30s so she had all the physical advantages an elite level weight lifter man would have over any women. Smh is this even a question
@cindy Queen但这并不包括他们的身体发育情况。这段视频中的女性在30多岁时才开始转性，所以她拥有一个精英级举重运动员的所有身体优势，比任何女性都要好。无语，这甚至是一个问题吗？
@cindy Queen but that's not what there body was developed like. The women in this video transitioned in her 30s so she had all the physical advantages an elite level weight lifter man would have over any women. Smh is this even a question
@cindy Queen但这并不包括他们的身体发育情况。这段视频中的女性在30多岁时才开始转性，所以她拥有一个精英级举重运动员的所有身体优势，比任何女性都要好。无语，这甚至是一个问题吗？
spiderus
Exactly- LGBT community having exceptions made for them. It's really frustrating.
确实--LGBT群体都有针对他们例外的规则。这真的很令人沮丧。
Exactly- LGBT community having exceptions made for them. It's really frustrating.
确实--LGBT群体都有针对他们例外的规则。这真的很令人沮丧。
Ann Miller
This isn’t fair…trans women shouldn’t be allowed to compete with biological born women if they went they puberty as men…it’s a UNFAIR advantage at a biological level
这不公平......如果变性妇女在还是男性的时候进入青春期，就不应该被允许与生理上天生的女性竞争......这在生物学层面上是不公平的优势。
This isn’t fair…trans women shouldn’t be allowed to compete with biological born women if they went they puberty as men…it’s a UNFAIR advantage at a biological level
这不公平......如果变性妇女在还是男性的时候进入青春期，就不应该被允许与生理上天生的女性竞争......这在生物学层面上是不公平的优势。
Carlos Anthony Padilla
YouTube will dexe this comment. Too much logic.
油管删评论警告，这太讲逻辑了。
YouTube will dexe this comment. Too much logic.
油管删评论警告，这太讲逻辑了。
Kenneth James C. Buencochillo
Homophobic alx
恐同警告
Homophobic alx
恐同警告
Ann Miller
@Carlos Anthony Padilla it’s because it’s 2021 & people care SO DEEPLY about the feelings of others n what they’d think rather then face the COLD HARD FACTS about stuff like this
@Carlos Anthony Padilla 这是因为现在是2021年，人们过于关心别人的感受和他们的想法，而不是去面对冷酷的事实。
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@Carlos Anthony Padilla it’s because it’s 2021 & people care SO DEEPLY about the feelings of others n what they’d think rather then face the COLD HARD FACTS about stuff like this
@Carlos Anthony Padilla 这是因为现在是2021年，人们过于关心别人的感受和他们的想法，而不是去面对冷酷的事实。
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SS Ordernsstaat Burgund
@Carlos Anthony Padilla Because the current era we live in is in the Generation of Snowflakes. I don't have much hope for my fellow Gen Z with their retardation on Twitter, Tik Tok or even any other cesspool social media platforms.
@Carlos Anthony Padilla因为我们目前所处的时代是在"雪花"时代。鉴于我的Z世代同胞在Twitter、Tik Tok甚至任何其他粪坑社交媒体平台上表现出的弱智行为，我对他们也不抱什么希望。
@Carlos Anthony Padilla Because the current era we live in is in the Generation of Snowflakes. I don't have much hope for my fellow Gen Z with their retardation on Twitter, Tik Tok or even any other cesspool social media platforms.
@Carlos Anthony Padilla因为我们目前所处的时代是在"雪花"时代。鉴于我的Z世代同胞在Twitter、Tik Tok甚至任何其他粪坑社交媒体平台上表现出的弱智行为，我对他们也不抱什么希望。
spiderus
@Carlos Anthony Padilla Yeah it's really frustrating. The world we live in today is deprived of logic. Absurdity is supported and logic is discarded.
@Carlos Anthony Padilla 是的，这真的很让人沮丧。我们今天所处的世界被剥夺了逻辑。荒谬得到了支持，而逻辑却被抛弃了。
@Carlos Anthony Padilla Yeah it's really frustrating. The world we live in today is deprived of logic. Absurdity is supported and logic is discarded.
@Carlos Anthony Padilla 是的，这真的很让人沮丧。我们今天所处的世界被剥夺了逻辑。荒谬得到了支持，而逻辑却被抛弃了。
Local Asian
why can't we have biological women and men categories in Olympics, so even tho if you're trans you got to compete in your biological category
为什么我们不能在奥运会上设置生理上的女性和生理上的男性类别，这样即使你是跨性别者，也要在你的生理类别中竞争。
why can't we have biological women and men categories in Olympics, so even tho if you're trans you got to compete in your biological category
为什么我们不能在奥运会上设置生理上的女性和生理上的男性类别，这样即使你是跨性别者，也要在你的生理类别中竞争。
HAL NOVEMILA
Personally I fully support transgenders but I can't help but wonder about the unfair advantages that they might have in sport competitions... Unless we decide to entirely get rid of the women/men categories I think it's unfair to let a Male-to-Female transgender compete against "natural" women, on the other hand I think that it would be in most cases acceptable to let Female-to-Male athletes compete with "natural" males as in those cases it's the transgender who would have the handicap and so if he still decides to partecipate it would be his choice and it would burden only himself.
就我个人而言，我完全支持跨性别人，但我不禁要问，他们在体育比赛中是否可能会有不公平的优势...除非我们决定完全取消女性/男性类别，否则我认为让男变女的跨性别者与"天生"女性竞争是不公平的，另一方面，我认为在大多数情况下，让女变男的运动员与"天生"男性竞争是可以接受的，因为在这些情况下，是跨性别者的劣势更大，所以如果他仍然决定参加，这将是他的选择，这只会给他带来负担。
Personally I fully support transgenders but I can't help but wonder about the unfair advantages that they might have in sport competitions... Unless we decide to entirely get rid of the women/men categories I think it's unfair to let a Male-to-Female transgender compete against "natural" women, on the other hand I think that it would be in most cases acceptable to let Female-to-Male athletes compete with "natural" males as in those cases it's the transgender who would have the handicap and so if he still decides to partecipate it would be his choice and it would burden only himself.
就我个人而言，我完全支持跨性别人，但我不禁要问，他们在体育比赛中是否可能会有不公平的优势...除非我们决定完全取消女性/男性类别，否则我认为让男变女的跨性别者与"天生"女性竞争是不公平的，另一方面，我认为在大多数情况下，让女变男的运动员与"天生"男性竞争是可以接受的，因为在这些情况下，是跨性别者的劣势更大，所以如果他仍然决定参加，这将是他的选择，这只会给他带来负担。
Thorfinn
Well said
说得好
Well said
说得好
Hazz
People like you who make things complicated… u support but wonder how unfair.. make up your mind… this guy not suppose to compete with female
像你这样的人就是在把事情搞复杂......你支持这种做法却不知道这有多不公平......想想吧......这个人不应该和女性一起竞争
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People like you who make things complicated… u support but wonder how unfair.. make up your mind… this guy not suppose to compete with female
像你这样的人就是在把事情搞复杂......你支持这种做法却不知道这有多不公平......想想吧......这个人不应该和女性一起竞争
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Mr CAGA
Not only burden himself, but his competitors as well
不只是他自己的负担，对于他的竞争对手来说也是负担
Not only burden himself, but his competitors as well
不只是他自己的负担，对于他的竞争对手来说也是负担
Stick
@Hazz Because it isn't an easy subject, while people like you & me have strong decided opinions on the matter, it remains a debate for most that have to take account of arguments from both sides.
@Hazz 因为这不是一个简单的话题，虽然像你和我这样的人在这个问题上有强烈的决定性意见，但对大多数人来说，这仍然是一场辩论，必须考虑到双方的论点。
@Hazz Because it isn't an easy subject, while people like you & me have strong decided opinions on the matter, it remains a debate for most that have to take account of arguments from both sides.
@Hazz 因为这不是一个简单的话题，虽然像你和我这样的人在这个问题上有强烈的决定性意见，但对大多数人来说，这仍然是一场辩论，必须考虑到双方的论点。
MrJohnybravo86
they should have there own catagory, transgender sports.
like the handycaped sports they have there own catagory
他们应该有自己的分类，跨性别者运动。
就像残奥会有自己的分类一样
they should have there own catagory, transgender sports.
like the handycaped sports they have there own catagory
他们应该有自己的分类，跨性别者运动。
就像残奥会有自己的分类一样
HAL NOVEMILA
@MrJohnybravo86 That could work, but I doubt that the transgender community would accept it... Considering their struggle in having their identities validated I think that they would perceive it as yet another way to dehumanize them. Also there probably aren't enough TG athletes to give them their own category
@MrJohnybravo86 这可能行得通，但我怀疑跨性别者群体会接受它......考虑到他们在确认自己身份时的挣扎，我认为他们会认为这是将他们不人性对待的又一种方式。另外，可能没有足够的跨性别者运动员来满足他们自己的类别。
@MrJohnybravo86 That could work, but I doubt that the transgender community would accept it... Considering their struggle in having their identities validated I think that they would perceive it as yet another way to dehumanize them. Also there probably aren't enough TG athletes to give them their own category
@MrJohnybravo86 这可能行得通，但我怀疑跨性别者群体会接受它......考虑到他们在确认自己身份时的挣扎，我认为他们会认为这是将他们不人性对待的又一种方式。另外，可能没有足够的跨性别者运动员来满足他们自己的类别。
Kumar Vikramaditya
There should be a different trans category where transmen and transwomen compete against each other as they are more or less matched in ability.
I meant like transmen vs transmen,transwomen vs transwomen and transmen vs transwomen.
应该有一个不同的变性类别，让变性男人和变性女人相互竞争，因为他们的能力或多或少都是匹配的。
我的意思是像男跨性别者对男跨性别者，女跨性别者对女跨性别者，男跨性别者对女跨性别者。
There should be a different trans category where transmen and transwomen compete against each other as they are more or less matched in ability.
I meant like transmen vs transmen,transwomen vs transwomen and transmen vs transwomen.
应该有一个不同的变性类别，让变性男人和变性女人相互竞争，因为他们的能力或多或少都是匹配的。
我的意思是像男跨性别者对男跨性别者，女跨性别者对女跨性别者，男跨性别者对女跨性别者。
YKH Le
A brilliant idea ! ! !
你真是个天才！！！
A brilliant idea ! ! !
你真是个天才！！！
Lilith
r.i.p science. humans made things so complicated
安息吧科学。人类让事情变得如此复杂
r.i.p science. humans made things so complicated
安息吧科学。人类让事情变得如此复杂
Cserene
This is what happens when you prioritize feelings over logic and reason
这就是当你优先考虑感觉而不是逻辑和理性时所发生的情况
This is what happens when you prioritize feelings over logic and reason
这就是当你优先考虑感觉而不是逻辑和理性时所发生的情况
Lucy S
There should be a different division for transgenders. This is very very unfair, they are still semi male. He even sounds like my uncle Bob
应该为跨性别者设立不同的比赛类别。这非常非常不公平，他们仍然一半是男性。他的声音甚至听起来像我的叔叔鲍勃
There should be a different division for transgenders. This is very very unfair, they are still semi male. He even sounds like my uncle Bob
应该为跨性别者设立不同的比赛类别。这非常非常不公平，他们仍然一半是男性。他的声音甚至听起来像我的叔叔鲍勃
Muhd Azwan
So.... Paralympic exist for disabled person. Why not Translympic for Trans people?
所以……既然有为残疾人设置的残奥会。为什么不为跨性别者设立单独的奥运呢？
So.... Paralympic exist for disabled person. Why not Translympic for Trans people?
所以……既然有为残疾人设置的残奥会。为什么不为跨性别者设立单独的奥运呢？
GeM HunTeR
Coz as usual, transgender want to be treated as the gender they wanted?
因为像往常一样，跨性别者希望被当作他们想要的性别对待？
Coz as usual, transgender want to be treated as the gender they wanted?
因为像往常一样，跨性别者希望被当作他们想要的性别对待？
Guest A
@GeM HunTeR they can be treated as "TRANS women" & "TRANS men"
@GeM HunTeR他们应该以“跨性别女性”和“跨性别男性”来对待
@GeM HunTeR they can be treated as "TRANS women" & "TRANS men"
@GeM HunTeR他们应该以“跨性别女性”和“跨性别男性”来对待
MomoRevolution
I'm all for trans rights but this isn't a hood solution its unfair to biogically born women. Especially when they ban women with naturally high level of testosterone
我完全支持跨性别者的权利，但这不是一个篮子的解决方案，这对生物学上出生为女性的人不公平。特别是当他们还禁止天生睾酮激素水平高的女性参赛时。
I'm all for trans rights but this isn't a hood solution its unfair to biogically born women. Especially when they ban women with naturally high level of testosterone
我完全支持跨性别者的权利，但这不是一个篮子的解决方案，这对生物学上出生为女性的人不公平。特别是当他们还禁止天生睾酮激素水平高的女性参赛时。
Ok Ok
Women fought hard for their own division. Please trans, fought for your own too. Do not take what women have right now.
妇女为她们自己的性别而努力奋斗。请跨性别者也为你们自己的性别而战。不要夺取妇女现在拥有的东西。
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Women fought hard for their own division. Please trans, fought for your own too. Do not take what women have right now.
妇女为她们自己的性别而努力奋斗。请跨性别者也为你们自己的性别而战。不要夺取妇女现在拥有的东西。
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Jemma J
exactly, that's the problem precisely
是的，这正是问题所在
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exactly, that's the problem precisely
是的，这正是问题所在
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cindy Queen
Trans women are women, bigot!
跨性别的女性也是女人，偏执狂！
Trans women are women, bigot!
跨性别的女性也是女人，偏执狂！
spiderus
@cindy Queen Trans women are men trying to be women. The oc wasn't being a bigot. You are for, attaching onto the belief that trans women are actual women.
@cindy Queen 跨性别女性是试图成为女人的男人。楼主并不是偏执狂。你才是，坚持相信跨性别女性是真正的女性。
@cindy Queen Trans women are men trying to be women. The oc wasn't being a bigot. You are for, attaching onto the belief that trans women are actual women.
@cindy Queen 跨性别女性是试图成为女人的男人。楼主并不是偏执狂。你才是，坚持相信跨性别女性是真正的女性。
Dinda Septiara
@cindy Queen they're biologically not women. please stop to push your nonsense logic. it's not fair for biological women to compete with someone who has more advantages physically
@cindy Queen他们在生物学上不是女人，请不要再推动你的无稽之谈了，让生理上的女人与身体上更有优势的人竞争是不公平的
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@cindy Queen they're biologically not women. please stop to push your nonsense logic. it's not fair for biological women to compete with someone who has more advantages physically
@cindy Queen他们在生物学上不是女人，请不要再推动你的无稽之谈了，让生理上的女人与身体上更有优势的人竞争是不公平的
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Natalia
@cindy Queen bigot? Who u try to fool?? DNA?!
@cindy Queen偏执狂？你想忽悠谁？DNA？！
@cindy Queen bigot? Who u try to fool?? DNA?!
@cindy Queen偏执狂？你想忽悠谁？DNA？！
ashmirrah nashihin Zahlan
@cindy Queen First of all, grab a dictionary to find the meaning of the word.
Second, most people in here are thinking based on logic and Biology. I can confirm since I learn Biology as well. So don't try to use 'transphobe' card to justify that trans should be able to compete in the Olympics (Eg : Transwomen competes in women's category) because based on Biology, the trans can have such an advantage compared to other athletes. The events are split into men and women's category for some reason! So don't go around saying the term like a trendy buzzword and shove down our throats without thinking thoroughly. It only shows that you are being selfish because you never think how the athletes who are born in their own gender groups work hard for the competition and you trivialised their struggles and sacrifices they made to be able to compete at Olympics.
But it doesn't mean (Idk what kind of pronouns I should use now. RIP English grammar and English is just my second language) should have ended her carrier. Maybe a competition among trans people can solve it? Then they will have a fair competition.
@cindy Queen 首先，拿起字典来找找这个词的意思。
第二，这里的大多数人都是基于逻辑和生物学来思考的。我可以证实，因为我也是学生物的。所以，不要试图用"跨性别者"这张牌来证明跨性别者应该能够参加奥运会（例如：变性妇女参加女子组的比赛），因为根据生物学，跨性别者与其他运动员相比是有优势的。而这些项目被分成男子和女子组是有原因的！因此，不要到处说跨性别者可以参加奥运会。所以，不要把这个词当作一个时髦的流行语，不加思索地塞进我们的喉咙里。这只能说明你很自私，因为你从来没有想过那些天生就是自己性别的运动员是如何为比赛而努力工作的，你轻视了她们为了能够参加奥运会而做出的奋斗和牺牲。
但这并不意味着（我不知道我现在应该用什么样的代词。安息吧我的英语语法，英语只是我的第二语言）应该结束她的职业。也许举行跨性别者之间的竞赛可以解决这个问题？那么他们将有一个公平的竞争。
@cindy Queen First of all, grab a dictionary to find the meaning of the word.
Second, most people in here are thinking based on logic and Biology. I can confirm since I learn Biology as well. So don't try to use 'transphobe' card to justify that trans should be able to compete in the Olympics (Eg : Transwomen competes in women's category) because based on Biology, the trans can have such an advantage compared to other athletes. The events are split into men and women's category for some reason! So don't go around saying the term like a trendy buzzword and shove down our throats without thinking thoroughly. It only shows that you are being selfish because you never think how the athletes who are born in their own gender groups work hard for the competition and you trivialised their struggles and sacrifices they made to be able to compete at Olympics.
But it doesn't mean (Idk what kind of pronouns I should use now. RIP English grammar and English is just my second language) should have ended her carrier. Maybe a competition among trans people can solve it? Then they will have a fair competition.
@cindy Queen 首先，拿起字典来找找这个词的意思。
第二，这里的大多数人都是基于逻辑和生物学来思考的。我可以证实，因为我也是学生物的。所以，不要试图用"跨性别者"这张牌来证明跨性别者应该能够参加奥运会（例如：变性妇女参加女子组的比赛），因为根据生物学，跨性别者与其他运动员相比是有优势的。而这些项目被分成男子和女子组是有原因的！因此，不要到处说跨性别者可以参加奥运会。所以，不要把这个词当作一个时髦的流行语，不加思索地塞进我们的喉咙里。这只能说明你很自私，因为你从来没有想过那些天生就是自己性别的运动员是如何为比赛而努力工作的，你轻视了她们为了能够参加奥运会而做出的奋斗和牺牲。
但这并不意味着（我不知道我现在应该用什么样的代词。安息吧我的英语语法，英语只是我的第二语言）应该结束她的职业。也许举行跨性别者之间的竞赛可以解决这个问题？那么他们将有一个公平的竞争。
Kally
They don’t want their own division, they want “inclusion” which will always come at the expense of women’s rights and spaces. I’m sure they could get their own division/toilets/safe spaces if that’s what they really wanted. But they just want to take over the pre-existing spaces that others fought for.
他们不想要自己的性别分区，他们想要"包容"，而这总是以牺牲妇女的权利和空间为代价。我确信他们可以得到自己的分区/厕所/安全空间，如果这就是他们真正想要的。但他们只是想接手别人争取到的已有的空间。
They don’t want their own division, they want “inclusion” which will always come at the expense of women’s rights and spaces. I’m sure they could get their own division/toilets/safe spaces if that’s what they really wanted. But they just want to take over the pre-existing spaces that others fought for.
他们不想要自己的性别分区，他们想要"包容"，而这总是以牺牲妇女的权利和空间为代价。我确信他们可以得到自己的分区/厕所/安全空间，如果这就是他们真正想要的。但他们只是想接手别人争取到的已有的空间。
Steven Senjaya
How come is this allowed on the Olympics, I respect her but I think most of us agreed that this isn't fair and they need to add some new rules
为什么在奥运会上允许这样做，我尊重她，但我认为我们大多数人都认为这不公平，他们需要增加一些新规则。
How come is this allowed on the Olympics, I respect her but I think most of us agreed that this isn't fair and they need to add some new rules
为什么在奥运会上允许这样做，我尊重她，但我认为我们大多数人都认为这不公平，他们需要增加一些新规则。
Keith Payla
He still has a strength of a Man and it's unfair for real women's who compete with Real Identity.
他仍然有一个男人的力量，这对与真实身份竞争的真正的女人来说是不公平的。
He still has a strength of a Man and it's unfair for real women's who compete with Real Identity.
他仍然有一个男人的力量，这对与真实身份竞争的真正的女人来说是不公平的。
Finish Him
He can't beat other men so he competes against women and loses ... PRICELESS
他不能打败其他男人，所以他和女人竞争，结果还输了……牛逼
He can't beat other men so he competes against women and loses ... PRICELESS
他不能打败其他男人，所以他和女人竞争，结果还输了……牛逼
KingOf Apex
To be fair, that Chinese weightlifter is out of this world, she won by almost 40KG.
公平地说，那个中国举重运动员是出类拔萃的，她几乎以40公斤的优势获胜。
To be fair, that Chinese weightlifter is out of this world, she won by almost 40KG.
公平地说，那个中国举重运动员是出类拔萃的，她几乎以40公斤的优势获胜。
Tony Lazarus
Set up a "Transgender Olympic Committee" to set up a "Transgender Olympic Games." And compete with and against your fellow trans.
成立“跨性别奥运委员会”，设立“跨性别奥运会”。和你的跨性别者同伴竞争。
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Set up a "Transgender Olympic Committee" to set up a "Transgender Olympic Games." And compete with and against your fellow trans.
成立“跨性别奥运委员会”，设立“跨性别奥运会”。和你的跨性别者同伴竞争。
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Emmanuel Woo
imagine seeing your daughter working her entire life in her sport dedicating her time and career and just losing out to a person who used to be a man but one day decided to be a woman and just decimates the playing field....
想象一下，你看着你的女儿一生都在为她的运动付出时间和事业，却输给了一个曾经是男人，但有一天决定成为女人的人，这彻底摧毁了竞争环境......
imagine seeing your daughter working her entire life in her sport dedicating her time and career and just losing out to a person who used to be a man but one day decided to be a woman and just decimates the playing field....
想象一下，你看着你的女儿一生都在为她的运动付出时间和事业，却输给了一个曾经是男人，但有一天决定成为女人的人，这彻底摧毁了竞争环境......
Abz Vlogz
I’m sorry to say this but, this isn’t about equality at all.
我很抱歉，但是，这根本不平等。
I’m sorry to say this but, this isn’t about equality at all.
我很抱歉，但是，这根本不平等。
Muhammad Izat
I think it's more about fairness rather than discrimination or anything. I feel bad for the women who actually grew up in a female body and got defeated by her
我认为这更多的是关于公平而不是歧视。我为那些真正以女性身份长大并被她打败的女人感到难过
I think it's more about fairness rather than discrimination or anything. I feel bad for the women who actually grew up in a female body and got defeated by her
我认为这更多的是关于公平而不是歧视。我为那些真正以女性身份长大并被她打败的女人感到难过
Bushra
It's like undoing all that women fought for throughout history.
It's like a new form of cheating.
这仿佛毁掉了历史上女性为之奋斗的一切。
这就像一种新的诈骗形式。
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It's like undoing all that women fought for throughout history.
It's like a new form of cheating.
这仿佛毁掉了历史上女性为之奋斗的一切。
这就像一种新的诈骗形式。
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Both New Zealand and the Olympics are absolutely pathetic for allowing this to happen.
新西兰和奥运会都允许这种情况发生，这一点绝对可悲。
Both New Zealand and the Olympics are absolutely pathetic for allowing this to happen.
新西兰和奥运会都允许这种情况发生，这一点绝对可悲。
Anj
this is just biologically unfair to the others competing,
这是在生物学上对其他竞争对手的不公平
this is just biologically unfair to the others competing,
这是在生物学上对其他竞争对手的不公平
Robbie Green
This man should be ashamed of himself. Doesn’t deserve a single medal or title.
这个家伙应该为自己感到羞耻。不值得获得一枚奖牌或冠军头衔。
This man should be ashamed of himself. Doesn’t deserve a single medal or title.
这个家伙应该为自己感到羞耻。不值得获得一枚奖牌或冠军头衔。
Ahmad Zulfadly
If transgender compete in Mens category than you will say "Noooooo its not Fair at all!". Then putting transgender compete in Woman category suddenly its become fair?????????????????
So transgender compete in transgender category.Then its FAIR.
I really feel sorry for their years of training effort for those woman athletes.
Men in men category.
Woman in woman category.
Transgender in transgender category.
Full stop.
如果把跨性别者放在男子组中竞争，你会说 "不，不，这根本不公平！"。然后把跨性别者放在女子组竞争，突然间这就变得公平了?????????????????
所以，跨性别者放在跨性别者这个类别中竞争，这才是公平的。
我真的为那些女运动员多年的努力训练感到遗憾。
男子在男子组。
女子在女子组。
跨性别者在跨性别者组。
句号。
If transgender compete in Mens category than you will say "Noooooo its not Fair at all!". Then putting transgender compete in Woman category suddenly its become fair?????????????????
So transgender compete in transgender category.Then its FAIR.
I really feel sorry for their years of training effort for those woman athletes.
Men in men category.
Woman in woman category.
Transgender in transgender category.
Full stop.
如果把跨性别者放在男子组中竞争，你会说 "不，不，这根本不公平！"。然后把跨性别者放在女子组竞争，突然间这就变得公平了?????????????????
所以，跨性别者放在跨性别者这个类别中竞争，这才是公平的。
我真的为那些女运动员多年的努力训练感到遗憾。
男子在男子组。
女子在女子组。
跨性别者在跨性别者组。
句号。
Bushra
I support trans but the hormone therapy can't undo the larger lungs and heart capacity stronger bones and more muscle mass and strength. Gotta be realistic it's about equity and just common sense.
我支持跨性别，但激素治疗不能消除更大的肺和心脏容量，更强的骨骼和更多的肌肉质量和力量。必须现实一点，这是关于公平和常识的问题。
I support trans but the hormone therapy can't undo the larger lungs and heart capacity stronger bones and more muscle mass and strength. Gotta be realistic it's about equity and just common sense.
我支持跨性别，但激素治疗不能消除更大的肺和心脏容量，更强的骨骼和更多的肌肉质量和力量。必须现实一点，这是关于公平和常识的问题。
Bratty Neet
I want to feel sorry for this dude, because of his struggles to accept the reality set for him by the Almighty. But I feel more for the women who trained and spent countless hours to have the prestige only to get beaten by a person who wants the world to acknowledge his right to live as a transwoman.
我想为这哥们儿感到难过，因为他挣扎着接受上帝为他设定的现实。但我更同情那些为了荣誉而努力训练和花费无数时间的女性，却被一个想让世界承认他作为跨性别者生活的权利的人打败。
I want to feel sorry for this dude, because of his struggles to accept the reality set for him by the Almighty. But I feel more for the women who trained and spent countless hours to have the prestige only to get beaten by a person who wants the world to acknowledge his right to live as a transwoman.
我想为这哥们儿感到难过，因为他挣扎着接受上帝为他设定的现实。但我更同情那些为了荣誉而努力训练和花费无数时间的女性，却被一个想让世界承认他作为跨性别者生活的权利的人打败。
Nathan Kim
Imagine training all your life to become a woman weightlifting medalist, only to have those dreams shattered by a man.
想象一下，你一生都在为成为一名女子举重奖牌得主而训练，这个梦想却被一个男人粉碎。
Imagine training all your life to become a woman weightlifting medalist, only to have those dreams shattered by a man.
想象一下，你一生都在为成为一名女子举重奖牌得主而训练，这个梦想却被一个男人粉碎。
ashmirrah nashihin Zahlan
As much as I appreciate her to be an athlete for her country, it’s quite biased in terms of fairness towards the naturally -born female athletes.
But if they need a solution, maybe made a special olympics for trans? Then, they can compete fairly each other.
尽管我很欣赏她成为了她所在国家的国家运动员，但她对天生的女运动员在公平方面是相当不公正的。
但如果他们需要一个解决方案，也许考虑一下为跨性别者做一个特别的奥运会？然后，他们就可以进行公平的竞争了。
As much as I appreciate her to be an athlete for her country, it’s quite biased in terms of fairness towards the naturally -born female athletes.
But if they need a solution, maybe made a special olympics for trans? Then, they can compete fairly each other.
尽管我很欣赏她成为了她所在国家的国家运动员，但她对天生的女运动员在公平方面是相当不公正的。
但如果他们需要一个解决方案，也许考虑一下为跨性别者做一个特别的奥运会？然后，他们就可以进行公平的竞争了。
Mata Matafuka
I support transgender right, but it wasn't a fair competition, a natural born man bone structure is not the same as a woman, a "man" can lift heavier weight than a woman in general! "She" had total advantage over other natural born woman with the same training.
我支持跨性别者的权利，但这不是一个公平的竞争，一个天生的男人的骨骼结构和一个女人的不一样，一个“男人”可以比一个一般的女人举起更重的重量！”她“比其他受过同样训练的天生女性有很大的优势”。
I support transgender right, but it wasn't a fair competition, a natural born man bone structure is not the same as a woman, a "man" can lift heavier weight than a woman in general! "She" had total advantage over other natural born woman with the same training.
我支持跨性别者的权利，但这不是一个公平的竞争，一个天生的男人的骨骼结构和一个女人的不一样，一个“男人”可以比一个一般的女人举起更重的重量！”她“比其他受过同样训练的天生女性有很大的优势”。
Pumpkin Butter
The problem isn't that she is a transgender, but the fact that she transitioned in her 30s, AFTER she's finished getting the benefits of male hormone puberty. Men have more muscles than women, and during puberty this means more muscles are made. I'm not sure if the female hormone therapy she received while transitioning is enough to undo the advantage of her puberty as male teenager. So I'm not sure if it's giving her more benefits or not when it comes to weight-lifting.
问题不在于她是变性人，而在于她在30多岁时才变性，在她获得了男性荷尔蒙在青春期发育的好处之后。男人比女人有更多的肌肉，在青春期这意味着更多肌肉的长成。我不确定她在变性时接受的女性荷尔蒙治疗是否足以消除她作为男性青少年在青春期获得的优势。所以我不确定在举重时是否给她带来了更多的优势。
The problem isn't that she is a transgender, but the fact that she transitioned in her 30s, AFTER she's finished getting the benefits of male hormone puberty. Men have more muscles than women, and during puberty this means more muscles are made. I'm not sure if the female hormone therapy she received while transitioning is enough to undo the advantage of her puberty as male teenager. So I'm not sure if it's giving her more benefits or not when it comes to weight-lifting.
问题不在于她是变性人，而在于她在30多岁时才变性，在她获得了男性荷尔蒙在青春期发育的好处之后。男人比女人有更多的肌肉，在青春期这意味着更多肌肉的长成。我不确定她在变性时接受的女性荷尔蒙治疗是否足以消除她作为男性青少年在青春期获得的优势。所以我不确定在举重时是否给她带来了更多的优势。
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