閃光少女,中西對決
2022-01-07 admin315 28857
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三年琴五年蕭,一把二胡拉斷腰;千年琵琶萬年箏,一隻嗩吶吹一生
陈惊(徐璐饰)是一个古灵精怪、敢爱敢恨的姑娘,江湖人称神经。作为音乐附中的奇葩人物,陈惊人缘欠佳只有男闺蜜油渣(彭昱畅饰)甘愿为她鞍前马后。自信满满的陈惊恋上了校草师哥,不料却遭到校草的嘲笑和奚落,还引起了校园两大院系之间的大混战。为了向师哥证明自己,陈惊联手502宿舍神秘人物组成2.5次元乐团,挑战权威、破除成见,上演了一幕幕生猛搞笑的青春趣事。

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Lenora S.
To those confused by this clip, it is from a movie "Our Shining Days" on Netflix. The basic premise of it is that in this school the students who study traditional Chinese instruments are looked down at, while those who study western instruments get better treatment. The students who study traditional music form their own orchestra to match the western one, and this scene is both of the groups facing off.
This clip is NOT showing that one group is better than the other. It is actually showing that both groups of instruments are good, and even can be more similar than one might think. As you can see in the clip, each instrument has a similar equivalent in the other group. However the Traditional instrument group should not be dismissed so easily, because they have the unique horn shown at the end that does not have a Western orchestral equivalent. That is why the horn player's entrance was so shocking, because the Western group did not know how to "compete" with this unique instrument.
Its a really interesting scene that has a more complex story than it might appear, I would highly recommend watching the movie to get a better understanding!

写给那些被这段视频弄糊涂的人,这段视频来自于Netflix上的一部电影“闪光少女”(Our Shining Days)。它的基本设定是,在这所学校里,学习中国传统乐器的学生受到轻视,而学习西方乐器的学生得到了更好的待遇。学习传统音乐的学生组成自己的管弦乐队,与西方管弦乐队竞争,这一幕是两个乐队对峙的场景。
这段视频并没有显示哪种乐器比另一种乐器更好,它实际上表明这两种乐器都很好,甚至可能比人们想象的更相似。正如您在片段中看到的,在另一个团队中,每种乐器都有一个相对应的乐器。然而,传统乐器不应如此轻易地被抛弃,它们在结尾展示了独特的唢呐,这是西方管弦乐队所没有的。这就是为什么唢呐的出场如此令人震惊,因为西方乐队不知道如何与这种独特的乐器“竞争”。
这是一个非常有趣的场景,有一个比它可能看起来更复杂的故事,我强烈建议看看这部电影,以获得更好的理解!

Mai Sakurajima
This is Japanese

这是日本(乐器)。

Liew Jun
@Mai Sakurajima are you kidding me ?

@Mai Sakurajima 你是来搞笑的吧?

Mai Sakurajima

@唐欢 I'm pretty sure that Japanese tho?
我很确定她们就是日本人。

Mai Sakurajima

@唐欢 you know the title of the video
你认识视频的标题吗?

ZHIWEI SUN
Mai Sakurajima haha you’d better to read some books

哈哈,你最好多读点书。

Mai Sakurajima
@ZHIWEI SUN and their playing the Koto

@ZHIWEI SUN 他们在演奏十三弦古琴。
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vicky hao
Mai Sakurajima thats the guzheng the video and movie is chinese

Mai Sakurajima 那是古筝。视频和电影是中国的。
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Thanos
I went so far down the YouTube rabbit hole, I ended up in China.

我在Youtube这个兔子洞走了太久,最后来到了中国。
(译注:rabbit hole,即爱丽丝漫游仙境里的兔子洞,爱丽丝掉进兔子洞然后进入了仙境)。

Przemysław Jarząbkowski
is it Chinese? or maybe other asian language? ...maybe Plato had a right with his shadow on the wall of cave... or maybe i drunk too much beer

里面说的是中文吗?还是别的亚洲语言?....也许只有柏拉图有权把自己的影子留在洞穴的墙壁上...也许可能是我喝高了。
(译注:著名的“洞穴之喻”以生动形象的方式表明了柏拉图政治哲学的基本理念,那就是:理想的城邦具有唯一性,其中真正的哲学家适合做城邦的统治者。柏拉图的哲人王思想标志着古典希腊城邦公共政治生活时代的结束,哲学与宗教时代的开始。)。

Flyfish
So some people may be curious why the Chinese instruments won, and this is what I got from a Chinese friend:
So basically the battle started off with “The bumblebee” by the classical instruments, and the Chinese instruments followed. Every classical instrument had a Chinese instrument that corresponds with its pitch.
HOWEVER, the suona is known for its high pitch which the classical side didn’t have a comparable instrument so they were forced to stop.
The suona then misguided the classical students that they were going to change into a Chinese song ‘The Phoenix’ (we see them adjusting their positions at 5:36 ), therefore the classical instruments lost because the song was changed back to ‘The Bumblebee’ unexpectedly.
The full name of the bumblebee is ‘Flight of the bumblebee’
And for the Phoenix it is ‘Hundreds Of Birds Paying homage to The Phoenix’
I was lazy but just in case if people wanna check them out later

有些人可能会好奇为什么中国乐器会赢,这是我从一位中国朋友那里了解到的:
基本上,这场战斗是从西方古典乐器演奏的“野蜂飞舞”开始的,随后出场的是中国传统乐器,每一种西方古典乐器都有一种与它的音高相对应的中国传统乐器。
然而,唢呐以其高音而闻名,西方古典音乐方面没有类似的乐器,因此他们被迫停止演奏。
唢呐随后误导了西方古典乐器的学生,他们把正在演奏的《野蜂飞舞》改成了中国音乐《百鸟朝凤》(在5:36我们可以看到他们在调整位置),因此西方古典乐器跟丢了,因为这首音乐出乎意料地改回了《野蜂飞舞》。
视频中的西方音乐的全称是“野蜂飞舞”(Flight of the bumblebee)。
视频中的中国音乐的全称是“百鸟朝凤”(Hundreds Of Birds Paying homage to The Phoenix)。

Miss Georgina
Teacher: kids dont fight doesnt fight physically
Kids: fights by playing instruments
And still the kids got scolded
But the school guests were quite amazed but the students still got scolded
Bich at least they didnt pull out each others hair

老师:孩子们,不要打架。
孩子们:我们用演奏乐器来打架。
孩子们仍然被责骂。
学校的客人对孩子们仍然被责骂感到很惊讶。
因为至少他们没有相互揪头发。

Choi San
what do you think the fence was there for���

不然你觉得那里为啥要放个栅栏?笑哭(表情)。

Lee Leng
in the starting of movie, they fight physically, but the fence only put on traditional instrument' side to separate them, teacher and school only like modern/western musical instrument's student .

在电影开始的时候,他们真的打架,但是栅栏只放在学习传统乐器的学生这边以将他们分开,因为老师和学校都更喜欢学习现代/西方乐器的学生。

Bitz Bitz
Lee Leng can you tell me the name of the movie?

你能告诉我这部电影的名字吗?

Lee Leng

@Bitz Bitz our shining/shiny days, 闪光少女
闪光少女。

the first one
I've not the slightest clue what is happening but I'm still enjoying it

我完全不知道发生了什么,但我仍然很享受这个视频。

Falcon Corban
Looks like Eastern, VS Western instruments.

看起来像是东方和西方乐器的比拼。

Dylan Slater
@Falcon Corban yeah lol

就像古尔邦节(译注:伊斯兰教主要节日之一,亦称宰牲节)。

tramways1435
They're playing 'The flight of the bumblebee' ..

他们正在演奏“野蜂飞舞”。

Ado·kuree 104
They are having instrument battle

他们进行了一场乐器大战。

LALISA pangoban
the dude with horn Distracted the Western Style that made them forgot their keys...
STRATEGY

那个吹唢呐的家伙分散了他们的注意力,让他们忘了调,真是个好策略。

CJ and Auntie Yaya
This is a symbolic fight about traditional Chinese and "Western". However, if you notice, each instrument sounds unique and thus they ALL have a place as their entirety makes up a larger symphony. There should be no "my instrument is better than yours". Hope this isn't some kind of strawman argument between "Western Medicine" and TCM .

这是一场中国传统乐器和“西方”乐器的象征性的战斗。然而,如果你仔细听,每种乐器听起来都是独一无二的,因此它们都有一个位置,因为它们在整体上构成了一首更大的交响曲。我们不应该有“我的乐器比你的更好”这样的想法。希望这不是一场类似于“西医”和中医之间的稻草人式的辩论(译注:稻草人辩论,即循环论证,循环争论,类似于车轱辘话)。

Vanessa Leung
The headmaster of this music school in the movie, showed no respect towards the traditional Chinese instrument, and too much admiration to the Western instrument. He put a gate to block out the traditional side, meanwhile have priority to the Western side. Music has no limitations, what the headmaster doing is evil. So this competition wasnt a "symbolic" fiht

在电影中,这所音乐学院的校长对中国的传统乐器毫不尊重,却对西方乐器过度崇拜。他用一道栅栏挡住了传统乐器一边,同时优先考虑西方乐器。音乐不应该是有限制的,校长的所作所为是邪恶的,所以这场比赛不是“象征性”的。

SLIMEY DEKU
@Vanessa Leung If thats the case, the traditional Chinese instruments needed to win. To show the headmaster that no instrument is superior to the other.

如果是这样的话,那中国传统乐器必须赢,他们需要向校长表明没有任何一种乐器比另一种乐器更优越。

Dylan Slater
@SLIMEY DEKU well that just shows that the Eastern instruments are better.

好吧,这只是在展示东方乐器(比西方乐器)更好。

SLIMEY DEKU
@Dylan Slater No, it shows that the Western musicians were cocky and underestimated the Chinese instruments

不,这表现了西方乐器演奏者的傲慢自大,他们低估了中国的乐器。

Aira Ichigo
@SLIMEY DEKU personally, I think a draw should be better since it shows that both have their own charm and shouldn't be compare to each other.

就我个人而言,我认为平局应该更好,因为这可以表明两者都有各自的魅力,不应该放在一起相互比较。

SLIMEY DEKU
@Aira Ichigo True. That would be like saying "they're both too awesome!" and it wouldn't offend anyone

没错。这就像是在说“他们俩太棒了!” 这样也不会冒犯到任何人。

Aira Ichigo
@SLIMEY DEKU Yup. Tbh, I think comparing Eastern and Western music instruments is like asking between an orange and an apple, which is more delicious. From the beginning, they cannot be compared for their greatness at all.

我觉得比较东西方乐器就像问一个橘子和一个苹果哪个更好吃。从一开始,他们的伟大之处就无法进行比较。

SLIMEY DEKU
@Aira Ichigo That's a great way to think. I agree

这是一种很好的思考方式,我同意你说的。

sabin97
i just finished watching it here on youtube.
please receive a virtual hug from me.
very grateful for your comment.

我刚在YOUTUBE上看完。
请接受我的拥抱。
非常感谢您的评论。

Rb
Japanese. The first instrument played was a Koto. Those children were all Japanese I believe from the Tokyo School of music.

里面说的是日语。第一件被演奏的乐器是十三弦古筝,这些孩子都是日本人,我相信他们来自东京音乐学院。
(译注:古筝是中国乐器,最初的古筝为五弦,三国时期增加到十二弦,隋朝增加一弦为十三弦,隋唐之际传入日本,至元代增加到十四弦,明代增加到十五弦,清末出现了十六弦筝,20世纪50年代以来,出现了十八、十九、二十一、二十三、二十九等多种弦制的古筝。现普遍流行二十一弦制古筝,这一古筝样式,由上海民族乐器一厂在20世纪60年代初创立,成为全国制筝的标准样式。)。

qiu wenyi
@RbRb it is not japan. the first instrument is guzheng and it is a Chinese university.

不是日语,第一件被演奏的乐器是古筝,视频中是中国的大学。
軍爺

@Przemysław Jarząbkowski A Chinese movie~

这是一部中国电影。
軍爺

@Rb do not miss leading other people~

不要误导别人

Rb

@軍爺 I have seen ALL of those instruments played by Japanese people live, hence why I thought they were Japanese. I wasn't misleading anyone so get your facts straight before criticising.
我曾看过日本人演奏过里面所有的乐器,所以我才猜测他们是日本人。我没有误导任何人,所以你在批评之前把事情弄清楚。
軍爺

@Rb Ok,so get it clear,all Japanese traditional instruments are from China~ and some traditional Chinese instruments are from middle asia thousands years ago,so get your facts straight before telling other people!

好吧,听清楚了。所有的日本传统乐器都来自中国,而一些中国的传统乐器来自几千年前的中亚,所以在跟别人乱讲之前把事情弄清楚。

Rb

@軍爺 You made an insinuation that I was misleading without knowing why I thought the people and instruments were being played at the Tokyo School of music, that is why I told you to get your facts straight, so, get your facts straight.
你暗示我误导了你,却不知道为什么我认为是东京音乐学院的人在演奏这些乐器。这就是为什么我说你先去弄清楚事实。

ERIC N
All the instruments played came from China~~~

里面演奏的所有乐器都来自中国。

lawliet L

Rb JEZ,this is a chinese movie,and the first instrument is chinese 筝.Just search the history about koto to get where koto are from
这是一部中国电影,出场的第一件乐器是中国“筝”。只需去搜一下日本十三弦古筝的历史,并找找十三弦古筝从哪里来的就明白了。

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Tony Daniels
Thanos I liked your comment, all these other cry baby bitches can go argue amongst themselves

Thanos,我喜欢你的评论,所有这些哭哭啼啼的小混蛋都只会相互争吵。
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William Lee
@Rb Koto derived from Chinese Zheng. But in this case, the movie is Chinese, so there is nothing to argue about.

Rb,十三弦古筝源自中国古筝,但是在这个视频中,这是一部中国电影,所以没什么好争吵的。

Delly Thezar
@Rb you know the fact that was Chinese dont you ? ,,, well i cant differenciate British and German either,, so i understand you,

Rb,你知道那些人是中国人了吧?好吧,我也分不清英国人和德国人,所以我理解你。

i don't read replies
@Rb Japan, don't be sad. The first traditional instruments are from CHINA, GuZheng.
All Japanese traditional instruments are influenced by China. If you watch Hetalia then you'll know, Japan is a kid but China already an adult. LMFAO.

Rb, 不要伤心。出场的第一件传统乐器是中国的古筝。
所有日本的传统乐器都源自中国,如果你看过Hetalia你就会知道,日本是个孩子而中国是个成年人。哈哈哈哈哈。

(译注:Hetalia,《黑塔利亚》(Axis powers ヘタリア)是一部在互联网上连载的漫画,作者为日丸屋秀和,作品以世界历史为主轴。它把将多个国家及地区以及该国(地区)的文化以及风土民情拟人化,主要以喜剧的四格及短篇为主。)
jk kj
I love you thank you so much! You saved my night

谢谢你,爱你,你拯救了我的夜晚。

kahetel13
lol.... "Children of the Corn", meets flight of the bumble bee.... damn China, you scary !

太搞笑了。“玉米田的小孩”遇见了“野蜂飞舞”,该死的,太疯狂了。

Simmi Singh
Can someone tell me the name of English version of this show

谁能告诉我这部电影的名字?

ChillyPotato
I think all of the instruments are amazing they’re just different

我觉得所有的乐器都很棒,它们只是不同而已。

diana fox
I can feel for the confused old man in the middle of the corridor ���������

我能感受到走廊中间的那个老人的困惑。

puteri aisyah
I'm not gonna telling lie.. it's looks like all the characters as like anime.. but yeah that's so awesome ������������

我不想说谎,看起来视频里所有的角色都像动漫里面一样。不过太棒了。

Zimoku 666
I play violin and when I saw how they held them ESPECIALLY the middle violen I GAGGED

我是拉小提琴的,当我看到他们拿着它,尤其是中提琴的时候,我哽咽了。

Traffalgar Law
This is my first time saw this scene , in my mind it's about an traditional accoustic vs modern accoustic and they just want to show who is the best

这是我第一次看到这个场景,在我看来,这是关于传统的和现代的对决,他们只是想展示谁是最好的。

Pech Rabe
Everything you can do I can do better in Chinese.

任何你能做的中国人都能做的比你更好。

Ashlee Kubo
Imagine instead of this being a movie this was a stage play or theater. I would so be there but the thing is I live halfway across the globe from there so thats not going to happen T_T

想象一下,这不是一部电影,而是一部舞台剧或戏剧。我很想去那里看看,但问题在于我生活在离那里有半个地球远的地方,所以这不会发生。

Katushabe Gloria
Okay this sounds like those sound tracks in Disney movies when a bird is chasing it's prey up in the sky. Is this just me... Oh okay. Still love this

哇,这些声音听起来像是来自迪斯尼的电影,当一只鸟在空中追逐猎物的时候。哦,好吧。我还是喜欢这个。

Leonard Borer
Am I the only one who thinks of kung-fu hustle?

我是唯一一个想到《功夫》的人吗?

Sierra Thompson
Whats the name of this movie? I want to watch it!!!

这部电影叫什么名字?我想看。

dara hope
I love this movie so much ��� the traditional Chinese instrument are so cool

我太喜欢这部电影了,中国的传统乐器太酷了。
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NiaJustNia
Imagine being the confused men in the middle of the corridor

想象一下在走廊中间的那些迷茫的人。

Omega 3,3
NiaJustNia it’s probably loud as hell

可以肯定的是声音一定很大。

NiaJustNia
@Omega 3,3 What if they're just there to do a fire safety check, they're off to check the fire escape down the corridor, then suddenly they're hit between two walls of sound

如果他们只是在那里做消防安全检查,他们去检查走廊的消防通道,然后突然他们被两堵声音墙击中了会怎样?

Chan Chelsea
in case you guys are wondering, according to my memories...
the chinese instruments and western instruments are two big rivals in the music school, but less and less people are playing traditional chinese instrument so the school decided to close it down, but they made this competition to see whos better and of cuz the traditional chinese instrument won at last, and they get to still hv that class in the school

如果你们想知道剧情的话,根据我的记忆...
中国乐器和西方乐器是音乐学院里的两大竞争对手,但学习中国传统乐器的人越来越少,所以学校决定关闭它,于是他们举办了这场看谁更好的比赛。当然,中国传统乐器最终获胜,最后他们在学校保留了那个班级。

Yevhenia
@kim xie Where can I find full movie? I can only understand English.

我在哪里能找到完整的电影呢?我只懂英语。
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ERIK LEROUGEUH
chinese instrument arent in danger, the chinese elite train their children to chinese instrument, not only western instrument, so may be the classical music is very big in asia, and each chinese city try to open an opera, but traditionnal instrument will never disappear, its a bit like tai-shi and mma...its part of their identity. actually tonn of band use traditionnal instrument and not only for classical music. you have a lot of it in movie series anime too.

中国的乐器不存在生存危机,中国的精英们会训练他们的孩子学习中国的乐器,而不仅仅是西方的乐器。所以虽然可能西方古典音乐在亚洲非常有潜力,每个中国城市都试图开一个歌剧院,但是传统乐器永远不会消失,它有点像太极和MMA的关系……它是他们身份的一部分这是他们身份的一部分。实际上,很多中国的乐队都在使用传统乐器,而不仅仅是在古典音乐中使用。在电影漫画中也能看到有很多传统乐器出境。
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Claude
@ERIK LEROUGEUH
The erhu can't be replaced. The tone is unlike any western instrument.

二胡是不可替代的,它的音色不同于任何西方乐器。

Elena Migliorini
I'm a western, I study classical music but I vote for Chinese traditional instruments

我是西方人,我学古典音乐,但我支持中国的传统乐器。

Guts
rivals? sorry but there is no rivalry, only chinese people
try to convince themselves that they are somehow rivals .western music has descended to higher realms and will never be reached by chinese.

竞争对手?对不起,这里没有竞争,只有中国人。
他们是在试着让自己相信东西方乐器在某种程度上是竞争对手,但是西方音乐已经到了中国人永远也达不到的更高的境界。

starria79
I Love Both of them :D and that's because I Love Music all kinds of Music <3 I'd Love to see them play together again <3 <3

两种乐器我都喜欢。因为我爱音乐,各种音乐都爱<3我希望他们能再次一起演奏<3<3。

Chikiru Uchiha
As a person used to hearing the traditional European orchestral instruments, hearing the traditional Asian instruments sounds sooooo much cooler. But honestly both are beautiful and complex

作为一个习惯于听传统欧洲管弦乐器的人,传统的亚洲乐器听起来更酷。但老实说,两者都是美丽而复杂的。
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Scorpius Cosplays
To be very completely, utterly honest , this movie was very likely made to make youngsters in China proud of their own culture instead of becoming very Westernised because many youngsters are very fond of the West and even going as far as to break away from their families and being scornful about their roots. So to those saying its propaganda, it is in a way. But is there any wrong to try and make the people of a country like their country and culture and roots even more?

说实话,这部电影很可能是为了让中国的年轻人为自己的文化感到自豪,而不是变得非常西化,因为现在许多年轻人非常喜欢西方,甚至不惜脱离家庭,蔑视自己的根。所以对于那些说它的宣传的人,在某种程度上它的确是。但是,试图让一个国家的人民更喜欢他们的国家、文化和根,这有什么不对吗?

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