讨论：茶和咖啡，哪个是更理想的饮品？
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（来自不讨喜观点组）
（来自不讨喜观点组）
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UsedHairbrush
i love tea, but i also think very few people have had actually good coffee.
我爱茶，但我也觉得，很少有人喝过真正的好咖啡。
i love tea, but i also think very few people have had actually good coffee.
我爱茶，但我也觉得，很少有人喝过真正的好咖啡。
Aw man I love my French press. Am I missing out on a better world of coffee?
（回）我可喜欢我那个法式滤压咖啡壶了。我是不是错过了一个更美妙的咖啡世界？
（回）我可喜欢我那个法式滤压咖啡壶了。我是不是错过了一个更美妙的咖啡世界？
The coffee you use makes the largest difference. Using good coffee that has a low bitterness from the start (I suggest light roasts for that reason) will help you a lot.
（回）看你选用什么咖啡了，不同的咖啡出来的效果天差地别。从一开始就选用苦度低的优质咖啡（为此我建议选用轻度烘焙的咖啡）能帮到你很多。
（回）看你选用什么咖啡了，不同的咖啡出来的效果天差地别。从一开始就选用苦度低的优质咖啡（为此我建议选用轻度烘焙的咖啡）能帮到你很多。
To each it's own I guess.
Other members of my family are into tea, there's some delightful stuff there too, I just prefer the taste of good quality coffee.
（回）我家里的其他人喜欢茶，茶的世界里也存在一些令人愉悦的品类，只是我更喜欢高品质咖啡的味道。
Other members of my family are into tea, there's some delightful stuff there too, I just prefer the taste of good quality coffee.
（回）我家里的其他人喜欢茶，茶的世界里也存在一些令人愉悦的品类，只是我更喜欢高品质咖啡的味道。
You can do perfectly fine coffee with a moka pot.
（回）我用摩卡壶能做出完美的咖啡。
（回）我用摩卡壶能做出完美的咖啡。
Equally few people have drunk actually good tea
（回）同样地，也很少有人喝过真正的好茶。
（回）同样地，也很少有人喝过真正的好茶。
I would actually say that very few people in the US have had actually good tea. I base this on living about half my life in the US and half in the UK - where tea is the traditional go-to hot drink.
I find myself not wanting to eat in restaurants in the US, because after I eat I really like a cup of tea - preferably with my dessert. And it's almost always disappointing.
（回）其实我觉得，在美国很少有人喝过真正的好茶。我得出这种结论，根据就是我的生活有一半在美国过，另一半在英国过，而在英国，茶在传统上是首选的热饮。
我发现自己不想在美国的餐馆里用餐，因为吃完饭后我真的很想喝杯茶，最好是配着我的甜点一起喝。而在美国，端出来的茶几乎总是令人失望。
I find myself not wanting to eat in restaurants in the US, because after I eat I really like a cup of tea - preferably with my dessert. And it's almost always disappointing.
（回）其实我觉得，在美国很少有人喝过真正的好茶。我得出这种结论，根据就是我的生活有一半在美国过，另一半在英国过，而在英国，茶在传统上是首选的热饮。
我发现自己不想在美国的餐馆里用餐，因为吃完饭后我真的很想喝杯茶，最好是配着我的甜点一起喝。而在美国，端出来的茶几乎总是令人失望。
RevealUnique
Cold brew actively avoids all your complaints
冷萃咖啡能有力地规避掉你对咖啡的所有抱怨。
Cold brew actively avoids all your complaints
冷萃咖啡能有力地规避掉你对咖啡的所有抱怨。
bibliophile222
I agree with you that tea tastes better (I drink my tea black), but coffee has a better caffeine kick, which is why most people drink it.
Also, coffee tastes a lot better when you add sugar.
我同意你的观点，茶的味道更好（我喝的是红茶），但咖啡中含的咖啡因更带劲儿，这也是大部分人喝咖啡的原因。
另外，如果你加入糖，咖啡的味道会好很多。
I agree with you that tea tastes better (I drink my tea black), but coffee has a better caffeine kick, which is why most people drink it.
Also, coffee tastes a lot better when you add sugar.
我同意你的观点，茶的味道更好（我喝的是红茶），但咖啡中含的咖啡因更带劲儿，这也是大部分人喝咖啡的原因。
另外，如果你加入糖，咖啡的味道会好很多。
I don't drink coffee unless it has so much sugar and cream that it's no longer considered coffee. It has become another drink altogether.
（回）我是不喝咖啡的，除非里头含有海量的糖和奶油，要多到它不能再被当成咖啡的程度。它已经完全变成了另一种饮料。
（回）我是不喝咖啡的，除非里头含有海量的糖和奶油，要多到它不能再被当成咖啡的程度。它已经完全变成了另一种饮料。
Starbucks Frappuccino gang
（回）星巴克法布奇诺（即星冰乐）党。
（回）星巴克法布奇诺（即星冰乐）党。
I'm like this and my mom swears I most have gotten my sweet tooth from my dad since he is the same way. She used to joke with my dad asking if he wanted any coffee with his mug of sugar and cream. My mom is insane and likes to drink it black. The only time she ever does anything with it is to put an ice cube to cool it down faster. Then again, she likes to part way peel tomatoes and eat them like an apple so there are many odd things she does.
（回）我是这样的，我妈骂我说，我酷爱甜食是随了我爸，因为我爸也是一样。她以前经常和我爸开玩笑，问他要不要加了一大杯糖和奶油的咖啡。我妈很奇葩，喜欢喝黑咖啡。她对黑咖啡的唯一一次加工，就是放入了一块冰块，以便能更快地降温。还有啊，她喜欢把西红柿剥开一部分，然后像吃苹果一样吃，总之她干过很多奇奇怪怪的事情。
（回）我是这样的，我妈骂我说，我酷爱甜食是随了我爸，因为我爸也是一样。她以前经常和我爸开玩笑，问他要不要加了一大杯糖和奶油的咖啡。我妈很奇葩，喜欢喝黑咖啡。她对黑咖啡的唯一一次加工，就是放入了一块冰块，以便能更快地降温。还有啊，她喜欢把西红柿剥开一部分，然后像吃苹果一样吃，总之她干过很多奇奇怪怪的事情。
My dad calls black coffee cowboy coffee. My mom also does the ice cube. She adds so little to her cup that it might as well be black. Why did you even bother lifting that sugar spoon?
（回）我爸把黑咖啡说成是牛仔咖啡。我妈也会加冰块。她往杯子里加的东西太少了，还不如黑咖啡呢。你们何苦还要举起那个糖勺呢？
（回）我爸把黑咖啡说成是牛仔咖啡。我妈也会加冰块。她往杯子里加的东西太少了，还不如黑咖啡呢。你们何苦还要举起那个糖勺呢？
klem18
Show me a tea that has as much caffeine per cup as coffee and I'll never drink coffee again.
如果你能给我一种茶，每一杯的咖啡因含量都和咖啡一样多，那我就再也不喝咖啡了。
Show me a tea that has as much caffeine per cup as coffee and I'll never drink coffee again.
如果你能给我一种茶，每一杯的咖啡因含量都和咖啡一样多，那我就再也不喝咖啡了。
Mini_Sammich
Hot bean water vs Hot leaf water... Personally I think Coffee is superior in every way, but that doesn't make your opinion invalid.
热豆子水和热叶子水的比拼…个人认为咖啡在所有方面都更胜一筹，但这并不意味着你的观点站不住脚。
Hot bean water vs Hot leaf water... Personally I think Coffee is superior in every way, but that doesn't make your opinion invalid.
热豆子水和热叶子水的比拼…个人认为咖啡在所有方面都更胜一筹，但这并不意味着你的观点站不住脚。
Odd-Professor-8233
I love my Coffee with creamers that sweeten it up a lot. I also adore my lemon ginger tea. We shouldn't fight, guys... bean people and leaf people should be friends <3
我喜欢加了咖啡伴侣的咖啡，能大幅增加甜味。我也喜欢生姜柠檬茶。各位，我们不应该为此争执…豆子党和叶子党应该成为朋友呵呵
I love my Coffee with creamers that sweeten it up a lot. I also adore my lemon ginger tea. We shouldn't fight, guys... bean people and leaf people should be friends <3
我喜欢加了咖啡伴侣的咖啡，能大幅增加甜味。我也喜欢生姜柠檬茶。各位，我们不应该为此争执…豆子党和叶子党应该成为朋友呵呵
Plastic_Variety1396
While tea Definitely tastes better , coffee is better and goes well w lot of other stuff imo and also Caffeine
虽然绝对是茶的味道更好，但在我看来，咖啡还是更好的，而且和很多别的东西都是绝配，咖啡因也是原因之一
While tea Definitely tastes better , coffee is better and goes well w lot of other stuff imo and also Caffeine
虽然绝对是茶的味道更好，但在我看来，咖啡还是更好的，而且和很多别的东西都是绝配，咖啡因也是原因之一
DarkRusalka
Completely inconceivable to me. You’re saying you prefer a comfortable reliable Volvo to a Huracan. They may have some similar make up but the sensation is totally different. The flavor of coffee is irresistible to me, like an unexpected love letter. Tea is to calm my nerves or stomach.
对我来说这完全无法想象。你的意思是你更喜欢舒适可靠的沃尔沃，而不是兰博基尼Huracan系列。它们可能有一些相似的构成，但给人的感觉完全不同。咖啡的香味对我来说是无法抗拒的，就像一封不期而至的情书。而喝茶是为了舒缓我的神经或胃。
Completely inconceivable to me. You’re saying you prefer a comfortable reliable Volvo to a Huracan. They may have some similar make up but the sensation is totally different. The flavor of coffee is irresistible to me, like an unexpected love letter. Tea is to calm my nerves or stomach.
对我来说这完全无法想象。你的意思是你更喜欢舒适可靠的沃尔沃，而不是兰博基尼Huracan系列。它们可能有一些相似的构成，但给人的感觉完全不同。咖啡的香味对我来说是无法抗拒的，就像一封不期而至的情书。而喝茶是为了舒缓我的神经或胃。
Strippingpotato
Tea is bitter hot leaf water
茶就是苦涩的滚烫叶子汤
Tea is bitter hot leaf water
茶就是苦涩的滚烫叶子汤
Good tea isn’t bitter. Bitter teas are usually either low quality or oversteeped.
（回）好茶可不苦。通常而言，味苦的茶要么品质很差，要么就是泡过头了。
（回）好茶可不苦。通常而言，味苦的茶要么品质很差，要么就是泡过头了。
athnme
It's an acquired taste.
这是一种后天养成的嗜好。
It's an acquired taste.
这是一种后天养成的嗜好。
jaiagreen
To me, tea (except Earl Grey, which is flavored) just doesn't taste very good. It's drinkable but blah. If coffee is too acidic for you, add some milk. That's how I usually drink it. There's nothing like the smell of coffee. And no, it's not just the caffeine -- I actually drink decaf much of the time.
对我来说，茶（除了格雷伯爵茶，这是一种调合茶）的味道实在算不上很好。能喝，但很乏味。如果你觉得咖啡太酸了，那可以加点牛奶。我通常都是这么喝的。没有什么能比得上咖啡的气味。不，这不仅仅是咖啡因的原因，事实上我在大部分时间里喝的都是不含咖啡因的咖啡。
To me, tea (except Earl Grey, which is flavored) just doesn't taste very good. It's drinkable but blah. If coffee is too acidic for you, add some milk. That's how I usually drink it. There's nothing like the smell of coffee. And no, it's not just the caffeine -- I actually drink decaf much of the time.
对我来说，茶（除了格雷伯爵茶，这是一种调合茶）的味道实在算不上很好。能喝，但很乏味。如果你觉得咖啡太酸了，那可以加点牛奶。我通常都是这么喝的。没有什么能比得上咖啡的气味。不，这不仅仅是咖啡因的原因，事实上我在大部分时间里喝的都是不含咖啡因的咖啡。
BigMickPlympton
Love tea.
Love the smell of coffee, but just can't drink it. Tried so many times.
我喜欢茶。
很喜欢咖啡的味道，但就是喝不下去。已经试过很多次了。
Love tea.
Love the smell of coffee, but just can't drink it. Tried so many times.
我喜欢茶。
很喜欢咖啡的味道，但就是喝不下去。已经试过很多次了。
That's exactly how I feel. Smells amazing but I'm a fool every time I try someone else's coffee
（回）这恰恰也是我的感觉。闻着特别棒，但每次我试喝其他人的咖啡时，都会把自己搞得像个傻瓜。
（回）这恰恰也是我的感觉。闻着特别棒，但每次我试喝其他人的咖啡时，都会把自己搞得像个傻瓜。
ArmChairDetective38
I get my caffeine from Turkey Hill Iced Tea & don’t even own a coffee maker , but herbal tea has so many uses than I find helpful , like peppermint for upset stomaches, valerian or lavender for anxiety , chamomile for insomnia, etc. i do like a good frappacino though
我是靠土耳其山冰茶（译注：某种无糖红茶）摄取咖啡因的，我连咖啡机都没有，但草本茶用途极多，比我想象的还要有用，比如薄荷可以治疗胃部不适，缬草或薰衣草可以治疗焦虑，洋甘菊可以治疗失眠等等，但我确实很喜欢上好的星冰乐。
I get my caffeine from Turkey Hill Iced Tea & don’t even own a coffee maker , but herbal tea has so many uses than I find helpful , like peppermint for upset stomaches, valerian or lavender for anxiety , chamomile for insomnia, etc. i do like a good frappacino though
我是靠土耳其山冰茶（译注：某种无糖红茶）摄取咖啡因的，我连咖啡机都没有，但草本茶用途极多，比我想象的还要有用，比如薄荷可以治疗胃部不适，缬草或薰衣草可以治疗焦虑，洋甘菊可以治疗失眠等等，但我确实很喜欢上好的星冰乐。
WordStream33
The main problem with tea is that it tastes like tea
茶的主要问题就是：喝着有茶味。
The main problem with tea is that it tastes like tea
茶的主要问题就是：喝着有茶味。
Tea just taste… wrong to me.
（回）对我来说，茶那个味道怎么喝都不对劲。
（回）对我来说，茶那个味道怎么喝都不对劲。
Round-Ice-3437
I hate tea in every form and preparation and I have lived all of my life in an extremely prolific tea drinking culture. There is something in tea that does something weird to my mouth - it's like it sucks all the moistures out of my mouth and makes my tongue feel like sandpaper. Maybe it's the tannins? My sister independent of me came to the same conclusion and descxtion.
Coffee, however, is delicious
任何形态以及用任何方式制备的茶我都讨厌，我一辈子都生活在一个极为丰富的饮茶文化中。茶中的某些东西会对我的口腔产生奇怪的影响，好像是把我嘴里的水分都吸走了，让我的舌头感觉像砂纸。也许是单宁酸的缘故？不受我影响的姐姐得出的也是同样的结论，说的也是同一番话。
但咖啡就很美味。
I hate tea in every form and preparation and I have lived all of my life in an extremely prolific tea drinking culture. There is something in tea that does something weird to my mouth - it's like it sucks all the moistures out of my mouth and makes my tongue feel like sandpaper. Maybe it's the tannins? My sister independent of me came to the same conclusion and descxtion.
Coffee, however, is delicious
任何形态以及用任何方式制备的茶我都讨厌，我一辈子都生活在一个极为丰富的饮茶文化中。茶中的某些东西会对我的口腔产生奇怪的影响，好像是把我嘴里的水分都吸走了，让我的舌头感觉像砂纸。也许是单宁酸的缘故？不受我影响的姐姐得出的也是同样的结论，说的也是同一番话。
但咖啡就很美味。
ItsMeLukasB
The only good teas I’ve ever had is southern sweet tea and throat coat. The only bad coffee is that one time I had a stale cup of Pacific Bold coffee. That shit tasted like grass and dirt.
我唯一喝过的好茶是南方的甜茶和Throat Coat（译注：某款薄荷茶）。而很烂的咖啡我只喝到过一次，有一次我喝了一杯已经不新鲜Pacific Bold咖啡。那玩意儿尝起来就像草和泥土。
The only good teas I’ve ever had is southern sweet tea and throat coat. The only bad coffee is that one time I had a stale cup of Pacific Bold coffee. That shit tasted like grass and dirt.
我唯一喝过的好茶是南方的甜茶和Throat Coat（译注：某款薄荷茶）。而很烂的咖啡我只喝到过一次，有一次我喝了一杯已经不新鲜Pacific Bold咖啡。那玩意儿尝起来就像草和泥土。
stabering
I need caffeine and tea can’t provide enough.
我需要的是咖啡因，而茶提供不了足够的咖啡因。
I need caffeine and tea can’t provide enough.
我需要的是咖啡因，而茶提供不了足够的咖啡因。
saltycityscott66
I think both have their merits. I prefer coffee most days. But a nice pot of tea on a rainy afternoon is splendid!
我认为两者各有其优点。在大部分情况下，我更喜欢咖啡。但在一个淫雨霏霏的下午，一壶好茶会是绝佳的选择。
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I think both have their merits. I prefer coffee most days. But a nice pot of tea on a rainy afternoon is splendid!
我认为两者各有其优点。在大部分情况下，我更喜欢咖啡。但在一个淫雨霏霏的下午，一壶好茶会是绝佳的选择。
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littlestinky
I prefer coffee because it's easy. If I burn it, it's only slightly more bitter than it normally would be. Expectations aren't very high to begin with, and it's very difficult to make coffee so bad that I throw it out instead of saying "fuck it, it's coffee".
我更喜欢咖啡，因为它很简单。如果我把它烧糊了，它只会比正常情况下稍微苦一些。从一开始对咖啡的期望值就不会很高，而且想要把咖啡泡得特别难喝（难喝到只能倒掉的程度，而一般情况下只会说“罢了，只是咖啡而已”）也是很难的。
I prefer coffee because it's easy. If I burn it, it's only slightly more bitter than it normally would be. Expectations aren't very high to begin with, and it's very difficult to make coffee so bad that I throw it out instead of saying "fuck it, it's coffee".
我更喜欢咖啡，因为它很简单。如果我把它烧糊了，它只会比正常情况下稍微苦一些。从一开始对咖啡的期望值就不会很高，而且想要把咖啡泡得特别难喝（难喝到只能倒掉的程度，而一般情况下只会说“罢了，只是咖啡而已”）也是很难的。
Tea comes with high expectations. Overboil it, it's too bitter. Underboil it, it's too weak. The same goes with milk and sugar. It's an art getting everything in balance. Tea that isn't boiled perfectly or has the wrong amounts of milk and sugar makes it undrinkable, and there isn't enough caffeine to justify putting my tastebuds through the ordeal of drinking it regardless of taste.
而对茶，期望值就很高了。泡过头了，会太苦。没泡到位，则太寡淡。加牛奶和加糖也是如此。找到一切的平衡点是一门艺术。如果茶没能泡到很完美，或是牛奶和糖的量不对，就会无法饮用，而且其中的咖啡因含量也不够，不足以说服我的味蕾去经受但饮而不问其味的折磨。
而对茶，期望值就很高了。泡过头了，会太苦。没泡到位，则太寡淡。加牛奶和加糖也是如此。找到一切的平衡点是一门艺术。如果茶没能泡到很完美，或是牛奶和糖的量不对，就会无法饮用，而且其中的咖啡因含量也不够，不足以说服我的味蕾去经受但饮而不问其味的折磨。
I'll take a cup of the bitter disappointment I know will happen over a cup of crushed hope any day.
我在任何情况下，都会选那杯会带给我苦涩的失望（我很清楚它一定会让我失望）的咖啡，而不会选那杯让我的希望破灭的茶。
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我在任何情况下，都会选那杯会带给我苦涩的失望（我很清楚它一定会让我失望）的咖啡，而不会选那杯让我的希望破灭的茶。
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TubaMaestro
I rather drink a Nice Latte than drink a shitty Enregy Drink that will give me 10% Energy and 90% Sugar.
我宁可去喝一杯上好的拿铁，也不愿意去喝低劣的能量饮料，后者给我的是10%的能量和90%的糖。
I rather drink a Nice Latte than drink a shitty Enregy Drink that will give me 10% Energy and 90% Sugar.
我宁可去喝一杯上好的拿铁，也不愿意去喝低劣的能量饮料，后者给我的是10%的能量和90%的糖。
Inmyhumbleopinion24
Tea is flavorless and tastes like fucking drinking the extract of dried leaves and flowers.
Chai tea though is a different story.
茶就没啥味道，那味道就像是在喝干叶子和花的提取物。
不过，印度奶茶可就是另一回事了。
Tea is flavorless and tastes like fucking drinking the extract of dried leaves and flowers.
Chai tea though is a different story.
茶就没啥味道，那味道就像是在喝干叶子和花的提取物。
不过，印度奶茶可就是另一回事了。
youmustbeanexpert
It's the drug part people like not the taste.
人们喜欢的是其中的致瘾成分，而不是味道。
It's the drug part people like not the taste.
人们喜欢的是其中的致瘾成分，而不是味道。
speak for yourself
（回）你只能代表你自己
（回）你只能代表你自己
yupperio
Plus there are so many varieties of tea and it's more user friendly to make!
另外，茶的品种太多了，而且泡茶的时候对用户也更友好。
Plus there are so many varieties of tea and it's more user friendly to make!
另外，茶的品种太多了，而且泡茶的时候对用户也更友好。
I'd argue coffee is more user friendly, tea you have to be mindful of temperatures and steep time to make a good cup.
（回）我反对，我的主张是：咖啡才是对用户更友好的，而茶的话，你就必须注意温度和浸泡时间，这样才能泡出一杯好茶。
（回）我反对，我的主张是：咖啡才是对用户更友好的，而茶的话，你就必须注意温度和浸泡时间，这样才能泡出一杯好茶。
My own unpopular opinion on tea is that water temperature is not as important as people make it out to be.
Steep time is critical, though.
（回）我本人对茶秉持着一种不受欢迎的看法，即水温并不像人们所说的那么重要。
不过，冲泡时间确实很关键。
Steep time is critical, though.
（回）我本人对茶秉持着一种不受欢迎的看法，即水温并不像人们所说的那么重要。
不过，冲泡时间确实很关键。
jmcstar
Tea is for old ladies
茶是老妇人喝的东西。
Tea is for old ladies
茶是老妇人喝的东西。
bradek
I like coffee when adding to the flavor of other things
我喜欢融入了其他东西味道的咖啡。
I like coffee when adding to the flavor of other things
我喜欢融入了其他东西味道的咖啡。
Xeadriel
Well that’s why I add milk and sugar to it. Makes coffee taste a bit like caramel. But hey I like both.
You probably didn’t even have good tea in your life. Lemme guess you’re talking about tea bag tea right? Some English tea maybe?
好吧，这就是为什么我会在里面加入牛奶和糖。能让咖啡喝起来带点焦糖味。不过也不碍，我两者都喜欢。
可能，在你的生活中都没喝过什么好茶吧。让我猜猜，你们说的是茶包吧？也许是某款英国茶？
Well that’s why I add milk and sugar to it. Makes coffee taste a bit like caramel. But hey I like both.
You probably didn’t even have good tea in your life. Lemme guess you’re talking about tea bag tea right? Some English tea maybe?
好吧，这就是为什么我会在里面加入牛奶和糖。能让咖啡喝起来带点焦糖味。不过也不碍，我两者都喜欢。
可能，在你的生活中都没喝过什么好茶吧。让我猜猜，你们说的是茶包吧？也许是某款英国茶？
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