国外博主：我揭露了中国对欧洲汽车市场的接管
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European automakers are amidst a crisis, struggling with falling profits, plant closures, layoffs, and sluggish sales. The third-quarter earnings reports from companies like Volkswagen, BMW, and Stellantis paint a dire picture. Last week, the issue became public as Volkswagen saw a massive workers' strike in Germany, while Stellantis' CEO abruptly resigned due to a boardroom battle. Analysts say declining demand, rising costs, and fierce competition from Chinese electric vehicle (EV) makers have hit the traditional leaders of the European car market. Adding to their woes, the European unx has introduced tariffs on Chinese EVs, which is expected to impact domestic carmakers as well. Amid these issues, automakers are also grappling with the costly transition to electric vehicles, as the EU plans to phase out petrol engines by 2035, threatening further disruption in the industry.
欧洲汽车制造商正处于危机之中，利润下滑、工厂倒闭、裁员以及销售低迷让他们举步维艰。大众、宝马和Stellantis等公司的第三季度财报描绘了一幅可怕的图景。上周，大众汽车在德国发生大规模工人罢工，而 Stellantis 的首席执行官则因董事会争斗而突然辞职，从而使这一问题公之于众。分析人士认为需求下降、成本上升以及来自中国电动汽车（EV）制造商的激烈竞争已经打击了欧洲汽车市场的传统领导者。雪上加霜的是欧盟已对中国电动汽车征收关税，预计这也会对欧盟内部的汽车制造商造成影响。除了这些问题，汽车制造商还在努力应对向电动汽车过渡所带来的高昂成本，因为欧盟计划到 2035 年逐步淘汰燃油车，这可能会进一步扰乱该行业。
@VSI769
High cost of living nobody is buying a car if you can't buy food for yourself or your family
生活成本高企，如果无法为自己或家人买到食物，就没人会买车。
@fritzeph6550
Germany can fund the war but fails safeguard it's auto industry.
德国可以为战争提供资金，却无法保障其汽车工业。
@oceanwave4502
EU spent 100 billions dollars so far for Ukraine, but lack money for EV subsidies and infrastructure as well as healthcare/pension. What a world we live in.
欧盟迄今已为乌克兰花费了 1000 亿美元，但在电动汽车补贴、基础设施以及医疗保健/养老金方面却缺乏资金。我们生活在一个怎样的世界里？
@Boonorp
That sounds like a correct priority to me. The car companies did this to themselves anyway.
Btw, China, Iran, and North Korea all support Russia. Why wouldn't Western Europe support a European country from invasion...
Glad things are currently going south for Russia and Iran.
在我看来，这是一个正确的优先事项。
无论如何，目前的情况是汽车公司自找的。
另外，中国、伊朗和朝鲜都支持俄罗斯，西欧为什么不支持欧洲国家免受侵略呢？
很高兴目前俄罗斯和伊朗的局势正在恶化。
@allwellbud
Does auto industry give kickbacks and comission to those in power? If not, they won't get help.
War equipment industry does give many kickbacks.
汽车行业会给当权者回扣和佣金吗？如果没有，他们就不会得到帮助。
军工行业确实给了很多回扣。
@MrDebranjandutta
The Chinese showed the world the fallacy of paying for over engineered, over expensive vehicles with high maintenance costs just for a brand logo with a 100 year old history
中国人向世界展示了仅仅为了一个拥有百年历史的品牌标志，就为设计过度、价格昂贵、维护成本高昂的汽车买单的谬误。
@infinitebeing1119
People want reliable cars not unreliable over priced cars with 100 year old badge.
人们需要的是可靠的汽车，而不是不可靠的、价格过高的、挂着百年标志的汽车。
@KP-xi4bj
Tesla is king of BEV technology. Chinese BEVs have no chance.
特斯拉是纯电动汽车技术之王，中国的纯电动汽车没有机会。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj tesla has to buy Chinese CATL batteries.
特斯拉必须购买中国的宁德时代的电池。
@Rubicon365
American and European cars had been a money pit for a long time. Then the Chinese car came along and give people what they want. So this is a good thing!
长期以来，欧美汽车一直是个钱坑。然后，中国汽车出现了，他们给了人们他们想要的东西。所以这是件好事！
@close_all_tabs
Let's not ask questions why Chinese cars are way more cheaper than American- or European-made cars.
我们不要再问为什么中国汽车比美国或欧洲制造的汽车便宜得多。
@infinitebeing1119
Chinese offering better quality at affordable prices than European counterparts not just in cars in other machines and home appliances.
中国产品不仅在汽车领域，还在其他机器和家用电器领域以比欧洲同行更实惠的价格提供更优质的产品。
@Monty-c3g
Agreed we should be thankful to the Asian market for pushing value for money
我同意，我们应该感谢亚洲市场推动物有所值。
@damirzanne
we don’t know nothing about Chinese cars , it seems like 20 different EV brands just popped out in China in the last 2-3 years , we don’t know anything about them, is there available parts , dealer and service network , quality ..etc … we will know more in about 5-10 years … comparing Chinese car to Maybach is lunacy , Mercedes practically invented the car , and Chinese just started …
我们对中国汽车一无所知，在过去的两三年里，中国似乎冒出了20个不同的电动汽车品牌，我们对它们是否有可用的零部件、经销商和服务网络、质量......等等一无所知......我们将在大约5-10年后知道更多......拿中国汽车和迈巴赫相比是荒谬的，奔驰几乎发明了汽车，而中国才刚刚起步......
@m87orion
Japanese would be a much better comparison. They radically changed the American car maket. And put European manufacturers on it's toes. LS400, Land Cruisers, NSX. Camry, Accord, Corolla the list goes on.
日本人是更好的比较对象。他们从根本上改变了美国的汽车制造业并让欧洲制造商望尘莫及。LS400、陆地巡洋舰、NSX、凯美瑞、雅阁、卡罗拉，不胜枚举。
@amjad_Mengal
West: If you can't compete, then you cry or blame China.
西部： 如果你无法竞争，那么你就哭泣或责怪中国。
@takedown243
They used to criticize China copying, now China is leading a big advantage technically, those haters lost the last excuse for their failureface-blue-smiling
他们以前批评中国抄袭，现在中国在技术上领先了一大截，那些反对者已经失去了为自己的失败辩解的最后借口。
@ragnarokws2670
@KP-xi4bj Cry harder Tesla fangays, sales of Tesla drop so much inside China
特斯拉的粉丝们哭吧，特斯拉在中国的销量下降太多了。
@KP-xi4bj
@ragnarokws2670 It's up 30.3% YOY for 2024 Q3.
But keep coping though, we could use some laughs.
2024年第三季度同比增长30.3%。
但还是要继续应对，我们需要一些笑声。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj tesla has to buy Chinese CATL batteries.,, the most important core of ev technology.
特斯拉要买中国的宁德时代的电池，这是电动汽车技术最重要的核心。
@KP-xi4bj
@nanyanguo1 Majority of Tesla vehicles come with Panasonic or LG batteries. Base RWD M3 used to come with CATL LFP batteries but that trim has been replaced with Long Range RWD which uses Panasonic/LG NMC batteries.
大多数特斯拉汽车都使用松下或 LG 的电池。基础版M3曾配备宁德时代的磷酸铁锂电池，但现在已被使用松下/LG 的NMC电池的长续航版 M3 取代。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj they are making switch to CATL as what ford n other western automakers are doing . They want to have CATL batteries know how as CATL makes the best batteries in the world .
他们正在改用宁德时代的电池，就像福特和其他西方汽车制造商正在做的那样。他们希望了解宁德时代的电池技术，因为宁德时代生产世界上最好的电池。
@anuragsinha2013
Germany' enemy was selling it cheap energy which powered the German manufacturing base but then Germany' friend blew up the energy pipeline and now Germany is forced to buy expensive gas from Germany Friend' and/or Qatar who is the client state of Germany' Friend, while it's economy is collapsing.
德国的敌人向德国出售廉价能源，为德国的制造基地提供动力，但后来德国的朋友炸毁了能源管道，现在德国被迫从德国的朋友和/或德国的朋友的客户国卡塔尔购买昂贵的天然气，而德国的经济正在崩溃。
@user-gl1kq7si5y
He is talking about America and Russia, Russia is the" enemy ". US the " friend" that blew up the pipeline .
他说的是美国和俄罗斯，俄罗斯是“敌人”，美国是炸毁输气管道的“朋友”。
@close_all_tabs
@user-gl1kq7si5y If you have proof for your statement about the pipeline then feel free to present it to the EU and/or NATO HQ.
如果你有证据证明你关于输气管道的说法，请随时向欧盟和/或北约总部提出。
@close_all_tabs
@KayyHong If they are not revealing it then how does a nobody like you know about it? Let me guess. You have a gut feeling? Or maybe your favourite conspiracy theorist on YT told you so. And YES. Russia did profit from it. Gazprom had contracts with Germany. They wanted a way out without paying a fine.
如果他们不透露，那么像你这样的无名小卒是怎么知道的呢？让我猜猜。你的直觉？还是你在油管上最喜欢的阴谋论者告诉你的。没错，俄罗斯确实从中获利了，因为俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司与德国签订了合同，他们想在不支付罚款的情况下摆脱困境。
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs Wow, how did you spin it as a profit for Russia to cut their own pipeline
哇，你是怎么把俄罗斯切断自己的输气管道说成是获利的呢？
@close_all_tabs
@apocalypse4144 Russia was reducing the transfere of gas through the NS 1 pipeline constantly, blaming it on a "defect gas turbine". They were trying to black mail Germany to turn on the NS2 pipeline.
Right before the accident happent, gas transfer was around only 15-20%. There was also the whole drama with Canada, who was maintaning a turbine and Russia not wanting to accept the delivery because of some missing papers or something. You can look it up. The internet does not forget.
Russia was basically running out of excuses to not deliver said amount of gas the contract demanded.
And we know Russia tried to weasel their way out of the contract, because of the lawsuit that happend after. Which Gazprom lost.
俄罗斯不断减少通过北溪1号管道的天然气输送量，并将其归咎于“燃气轮机故障”。他们试图要挟德国开启北溪2号管道。
事故发生前，天然气输送量仅为15%-20%。此外，还发生了加拿大维修涡轮机的事件，而俄罗斯因为缺少一些文件或其他原因而不愿接受交付。你可以查查，互联网是不会忘记的。
俄罗斯基本上没有任何借口不按合同要求交付天然气。
我们知道俄罗斯试图用狡辩来摆脱合同，因为后来发生了诉讼，俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司败诉了。
@close_all_tabs
@WalkOverHotCoal I'm not saying Russia did it. I'm just saying Russia's state controlled Gazprom had also a motive to sabotage the pipelines.
我没说是俄罗斯干的，我只是说俄罗斯国家控制的俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司也有破坏管道的动机。
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs you still do not make sense.
1. Russia has the capacity and willingness to deliver gas to Germany. But the west pressurised Germany to look at alternative options.
2. It was big business for them, so there was no rationale for them to sabotage a critical infrastructure for their revenues.
3. Gazprom case was more on the "nationalisation" efforts on germany to keep Russia from holding control over critical infrastructure.
4. Russia were reducing supplies to force rouble payments as sanctions were put on them to curb use of Euros/dollars by Russia to buy from other countries. So Euros were of no use if Germany pays in them.
4. Russia lost business because of NS1 & NS2 damage. who gained? Ukraine and USA/Qatar/Norway.
你还是说不通。
1. 俄罗斯有能力也有意愿向德国输送天然气，但西方向德国施压，要求其寻求其他选择。
2. 这对他们来说是一笔大生意，因此他们没有理由为了自己的收入而破坏重要的基础设施。
3. 俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司的案例更多的是德国的“国有化”努力，以阻止俄罗斯控制关键基础设施。
4. 俄罗斯正在减少供应以迫使德国卢布付款，因为制裁措施限制俄罗斯使用欧元/美元从其他国家购买商品。因此，如果德国使用欧元支付，欧元对俄罗斯没有任何用处。
4. 由于北溪1号和北溪2号被破坏，俄罗斯失去了生意。谁干的？乌克兰和美国/卡塔尔/挪威。
@close_all_tabs
@apocalypse4144 1 If they want to contnue to sell their gas then they would have repaired NS1 - like it is written in the contract - Gazprom has the responsability to fix and maintane the pipelines.
2 Gazprom is state controlled. If the Kremlin says stop the business to put pressure on the Germany, then Gazprom does what the Kremlin wants.
3 now you make no sense. Try rearange that sentence or use other words.
4 Now you agree that Russia was cutting the supplies to force germany into paying ruble. Which was (again) written in the cantract that the payment had to be in Euro.
4.2. Flowers gain from rain. That doesn't mean that flowers control the clouds.
Others profit from Germany's bad decision in the past to trust Russia. So what?
1. 如果他们想继续出售天然气，那么他们就应该修复北溪1号--就像合同中写的那样--俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司有责任修复和维护管道。 俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司由国家控制。如果克里姆林宫要求停止业务以向德国施压，那么俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司就会按照克里姆林宫的要求行事。
现在你说的毫无意义，你可以试着重新调整句子或使用其他词语。
现在您同意俄罗斯切断供应是为了迫使德国使用卢布支付，而合同中（再说一次）写明必须用欧元支付。 4.2. 花朵从雨水中获益，但这并不意味着花朵可以控制云朵。
德国过去信任俄罗斯的错误决定让其他人从中获利，那又怎样？
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs
That is funny
1. repair is the later step, But first include them in the investigations on NS. if they are obligated to repair, they are also entitled to be part of an joint investigation
2. All the oil companies in the world are state owned or state controlled.. isn't it?
3. you never made any sense anyways
4. If they pay in a currency that they cannot use, isn't it logical that they would like to take a different currency that they can use. So either remove the sanctions or pay in roubles. It was a fair thing expecte from any soverign nation
5. LOL. Germany profited from Russia's cheap gas. and without that, their companies are losing their competitiveness. expect more tanking and loss of jobs in near future if it still continues.
真好笑。
1. 修复是后一步，但首先要将他们纳入对北溪管道的调查。如果他们有义务修复，他们也有权参与联合调查。
2. 世界上所有的石油公司都是国有或国有控股的，不是吗？
3. 无论如何，你都说不通。
4. 如果他们用一种他们无法使用的货币支付，那么他们想换一种他们可以使用的货币，这难道不是合乎逻辑的吗？所以，要么取消制裁，要么用卢布支付，这是任何一个主权国家都应该做的公平之事。
5. 哈哈。德国从俄罗斯的廉价天然气中获利，而没有了廉价天然气，他们的公司就失去了竞争力。
@amoker27
The lack of European consumers in buying ice cars is because the fuels are expansive. Why expensive? Because Europe went to war with Russia. That is the root cause, don't blame other s
欧洲消费者不买燃油车是因为燃料昂贵。为什么昂贵？因为欧洲与俄罗斯开战了，这才是根本原因，不要怪别人。
@angelalake200
america had the same issue & look where we are now. can't afford a car at all, after we bailed out the car industry. in reality, there are enough cars sitting unbought on lots to circle the earth.
how many cars can be bought? none, can't afford it.
美国也曾面临同样的问题，看看我们现在的处境。在我们救助汽车业之后，我们根本买不起车。事实上，停在停车场上未售出的汽车足够绕地球一圈了。有多少辆车可以买？一辆都买不起。
@CarlosWiden
I always had European cars, BMW and Mercedes, now I personally prefer Chinese cars! ❤ European cars are too expensive for what they offer, besides the luxury and innovation factor is gone “
我一直有欧洲车，比如宝马、奔驰，但现在我个人更喜欢中国车！因为欧洲汽车太贵了，而且豪华和创新的因素也消失了。
@prathameshozarkar
But then u get those bmw fanboys saying they are better than every cars out there
但那些宝马车迷却说它们比所有的车都好。
@alibalaabdullahi7108
No Russian oil and Gas is the sole reason
没有俄罗斯的石油和天然气是唯一的原因。
@lixwii64
Yeh, now Germany is the first to feel the effect. The dominos has already started.
是的，现在德国最先感受到影响，多米诺骨牌已经开始了。
@ChinaSongsCollection
Not sole reason. But yes, one of the main reasons
虽然不是唯一的原因，但的确是主要的原因之一。
@AhmetYilmaz-z2s
Rising costs of cars while they use cheaper materials no shit they struggle I can't even imagine myself buying a new car because it costs too much...
汽车的成本不断上升，但使用的材料却更便宜，不开玩笑！我都不敢想象自己会买一辆新车，因为它太贵了......
@Bhairavvvv
China is definitely giving tough times to American and European markets . Other asian countries should take notes , this is coming from an Indian
中国确实给美国和欧洲市场带来了困难，其他亚洲国家应该引以为戒，这是来自印度的提醒。
@prathameshozarkar
Yes although I don't like Chinese cars (mainly coz of 'made in China') they are giving good cars especially BYD they have shocked whole industry
是的，虽然我不喜欢中国汽车（主要是因为“中国制造”），但他们也提供了好车，尤其是比亚迪，他们震惊了整个行业。
@WalkOverHotCoal
Germany, and many western nations with well-developed auto industry are facing the same problems. High energy cost, being stuck in the ICE paradigm. Then the high cost of living makes consumers less likely to pay for a new car, and auto workers demand higher pay because of the higher cost of living.
Without a doubt, China plays a big part in unsettling the global auto market. Now is China a positive agent of change, or a disruptor ? It depends on which side of the fence you are sitting.
德国和许多汽车工业发达的西方国家都面临着同样的问题：能源成本居高不下，被燃油车困住了。然后，高昂的生活成本使得消费者不太可能掏钱购买新车，而汽车工人也因为生活成本的提高而要求更高的薪酬。
毫无疑问，中国在全球汽车市场的动荡中扮演了重要的角色。现在，中国究竟是变革的积极推动者，还是破坏者？这取决于你站在哪一边。
@Anthony-lv1mi
Naturally. The Only industries that see increases are the Morgues and Weapons Manufacturers -- I wonder why? And Who Owns them?
当然。唯一出现增长的行业是停尸房和武器制造商——我想知道为什么？谁拥有它们？
@imcoolpramesh
My volkswagen repair cost after spending more than $3000 in a year came out another 5k and engine showing plenty of codes so another 5k. I bought Tesla instead.
我的大众汽车在一年内花了 3000 多美元后，维修费用又花了 5000 美元，而且发动机显示了大量故障，所以又花了 5 千美元。我买了特斯拉顶替它。
@vivarevolution3527
Yet medias are continuously degrading EVs
但媒体却在不断贬低电动汽车。
@close_all_tabs
You don't need the media for this. People don't like EVs even without the TV telling them to do so.
你不需要媒体来报道这件事。即使没有电视的宣传，人们也不喜欢电动汽车。
@dougm659
While the world’s best selling car two years in a row is a Tesla….yes, no one wants EV’s …..
虽然连续两年全球最畅销的汽车都是特斯拉……是的，没有人想要电动汽车……笑哭了。
@philweiland5391
@dougm659 If I lived in a crowded city, I might get one as a roundabout, but to think they will totally replace ICE or ICE hybrids is misguided. Cold weather, charging, weight....don't appeal to a broad swath of those outside congested cities. And the grid couldn't support it anyway!
如果我生活在拥挤的城市，我可能会买一辆作为通勤车，但认为它们将完全取代燃油车或混合动力车的想法是错误的。寒冷的天气、充电、重量....，对拥堵城市以外的广大人群没有吸引力。而且电网无论如何也无法支持它！
@Twin.motors
@philweiland5391 Cold weather - Norway, Canada proved that's not an issue
Charging.. that's usually done at night as you sleep, not a problem
Weight .. really ? Good EVs are LIGHTER than combustion cars, not heavier compare a Model Y with a Audi Q5, BMW X3, Tiguan etc . 1860kg for a 450hp sedan with more cargo than a BMW X7 is incredible.
I've driven my Y 45,000km in the past year mostly on roadtrips across Europe and it cost me 3x less than an equivalent combustion car
挪威和加拿大的寒冷天气证明这不是问题。
充电......通常在晚上睡觉时进行，这也不是问题。
重量......真的吗？好的电动汽车比燃油车更轻，而不是更重。你可以将 Model Y 与奥迪 Q5、宝马 X3、途观等汽车相比。一辆 450 马力的电动轿车重 1860 公斤，其载重比宝马 X7 还多，这简直不可思议。
在过去的一年里，我驾驶我的Model Y行驶了45000公里，主要是在欧洲各地的公路上行驶，它的成本比同等的燃油车汽车低3倍。
欧洲汽车制造商正处于危机之中，利润下滑、工厂倒闭、裁员以及销售低迷让他们举步维艰。大众、宝马和Stellantis等公司的第三季度财报描绘了一幅可怕的图景。上周，大众汽车在德国发生大规模工人罢工，而 Stellantis 的首席执行官则因董事会争斗而突然辞职，从而使这一问题公之于众。分析人士认为需求下降、成本上升以及来自中国电动汽车（EV）制造商的激烈竞争已经打击了欧洲汽车市场的传统领导者。雪上加霜的是欧盟已对中国电动汽车征收关税，预计这也会对欧盟内部的汽车制造商造成影响。除了这些问题，汽车制造商还在努力应对向电动汽车过渡所带来的高昂成本，因为欧盟计划到 2035 年逐步淘汰燃油车，这可能会进一步扰乱该行业。
@VSI769
High cost of living nobody is buying a car if you can't buy food for yourself or your family
生活成本高企，如果无法为自己或家人买到食物，就没人会买车。
@fritzeph6550
Germany can fund the war but fails safeguard it's auto industry.
德国可以为战争提供资金，却无法保障其汽车工业。
@oceanwave4502
EU spent 100 billions dollars so far for Ukraine, but lack money for EV subsidies and infrastructure as well as healthcare/pension. What a world we live in.
欧盟迄今已为乌克兰花费了 1000 亿美元，但在电动汽车补贴、基础设施以及医疗保健/养老金方面却缺乏资金。我们生活在一个怎样的世界里？
@Boonorp
That sounds like a correct priority to me. The car companies did this to themselves anyway.
Btw, China, Iran, and North Korea all support Russia. Why wouldn't Western Europe support a European country from invasion...
Glad things are currently going south for Russia and Iran.
在我看来，这是一个正确的优先事项。
无论如何，目前的情况是汽车公司自找的。
另外，中国、伊朗和朝鲜都支持俄罗斯，西欧为什么不支持欧洲国家免受侵略呢？
很高兴目前俄罗斯和伊朗的局势正在恶化。
@allwellbud
Does auto industry give kickbacks and comission to those in power? If not, they won't get help.
War equipment industry does give many kickbacks.
汽车行业会给当权者回扣和佣金吗？如果没有，他们就不会得到帮助。
军工行业确实给了很多回扣。
@MrDebranjandutta
The Chinese showed the world the fallacy of paying for over engineered, over expensive vehicles with high maintenance costs just for a brand logo with a 100 year old history
中国人向世界展示了仅仅为了一个拥有百年历史的品牌标志，就为设计过度、价格昂贵、维护成本高昂的汽车买单的谬误。
@infinitebeing1119
People want reliable cars not unreliable over priced cars with 100 year old badge.
人们需要的是可靠的汽车，而不是不可靠的、价格过高的、挂着百年标志的汽车。
@KP-xi4bj
Tesla is king of BEV technology. Chinese BEVs have no chance.
特斯拉是纯电动汽车技术之王，中国的纯电动汽车没有机会。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj tesla has to buy Chinese CATL batteries.
特斯拉必须购买中国的宁德时代的电池。
@Rubicon365
American and European cars had been a money pit for a long time. Then the Chinese car came along and give people what they want. So this is a good thing!
长期以来，欧美汽车一直是个钱坑。然后，中国汽车出现了，他们给了人们他们想要的东西。所以这是件好事！
@close_all_tabs
Let's not ask questions why Chinese cars are way more cheaper than American- or European-made cars.
我们不要再问为什么中国汽车比美国或欧洲制造的汽车便宜得多。
@infinitebeing1119
Chinese offering better quality at affordable prices than European counterparts not just in cars in other machines and home appliances.
中国产品不仅在汽车领域，还在其他机器和家用电器领域以比欧洲同行更实惠的价格提供更优质的产品。
@Monty-c3g
Agreed we should be thankful to the Asian market for pushing value for money
我同意，我们应该感谢亚洲市场推动物有所值。
@damirzanne
we don’t know nothing about Chinese cars , it seems like 20 different EV brands just popped out in China in the last 2-3 years , we don’t know anything about them, is there available parts , dealer and service network , quality ..etc … we will know more in about 5-10 years … comparing Chinese car to Maybach is lunacy , Mercedes practically invented the car , and Chinese just started …
我们对中国汽车一无所知，在过去的两三年里，中国似乎冒出了20个不同的电动汽车品牌，我们对它们是否有可用的零部件、经销商和服务网络、质量......等等一无所知......我们将在大约5-10年后知道更多......拿中国汽车和迈巴赫相比是荒谬的，奔驰几乎发明了汽车，而中国才刚刚起步......
@m87orion
Japanese would be a much better comparison. They radically changed the American car maket. And put European manufacturers on it's toes. LS400, Land Cruisers, NSX. Camry, Accord, Corolla the list goes on.
日本人是更好的比较对象。他们从根本上改变了美国的汽车制造业并让欧洲制造商望尘莫及。LS400、陆地巡洋舰、NSX、凯美瑞、雅阁、卡罗拉，不胜枚举。
@amjad_Mengal
West: If you can't compete, then you cry or blame China.
西部： 如果你无法竞争，那么你就哭泣或责怪中国。
@takedown243
They used to criticize China copying, now China is leading a big advantage technically, those haters lost the last excuse for their failureface-blue-smiling
他们以前批评中国抄袭，现在中国在技术上领先了一大截，那些反对者已经失去了为自己的失败辩解的最后借口。
@ragnarokws2670
@KP-xi4bj Cry harder Tesla fangays, sales of Tesla drop so much inside China
特斯拉的粉丝们哭吧，特斯拉在中国的销量下降太多了。
@KP-xi4bj
@ragnarokws2670 It's up 30.3% YOY for 2024 Q3.
But keep coping though, we could use some laughs.
2024年第三季度同比增长30.3%。
但还是要继续应对，我们需要一些笑声。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj tesla has to buy Chinese CATL batteries.,, the most important core of ev technology.
特斯拉要买中国的宁德时代的电池，这是电动汽车技术最重要的核心。
@KP-xi4bj
@nanyanguo1 Majority of Tesla vehicles come with Panasonic or LG batteries. Base RWD M3 used to come with CATL LFP batteries but that trim has been replaced with Long Range RWD which uses Panasonic/LG NMC batteries.
大多数特斯拉汽车都使用松下或 LG 的电池。基础版M3曾配备宁德时代的磷酸铁锂电池，但现在已被使用松下/LG 的NMC电池的长续航版 M3 取代。
@nanyanguo1
@KP-xi4bj they are making switch to CATL as what ford n other western automakers are doing . They want to have CATL batteries know how as CATL makes the best batteries in the world .
他们正在改用宁德时代的电池，就像福特和其他西方汽车制造商正在做的那样。他们希望了解宁德时代的电池技术，因为宁德时代生产世界上最好的电池。
@anuragsinha2013
Germany' enemy was selling it cheap energy which powered the German manufacturing base but then Germany' friend blew up the energy pipeline and now Germany is forced to buy expensive gas from Germany Friend' and/or Qatar who is the client state of Germany' Friend, while it's economy is collapsing.
德国的敌人向德国出售廉价能源，为德国的制造基地提供动力，但后来德国的朋友炸毁了能源管道，现在德国被迫从德国的朋友和/或德国的朋友的客户国卡塔尔购买昂贵的天然气，而德国的经济正在崩溃。
@user-gl1kq7si5y
He is talking about America and Russia, Russia is the" enemy ". US the " friend" that blew up the pipeline .
他说的是美国和俄罗斯，俄罗斯是“敌人”，美国是炸毁输气管道的“朋友”。
@close_all_tabs
@user-gl1kq7si5y If you have proof for your statement about the pipeline then feel free to present it to the EU and/or NATO HQ.
如果你有证据证明你关于输气管道的说法，请随时向欧盟和/或北约总部提出。
@close_all_tabs
@KayyHong If they are not revealing it then how does a nobody like you know about it? Let me guess. You have a gut feeling? Or maybe your favourite conspiracy theorist on YT told you so. And YES. Russia did profit from it. Gazprom had contracts with Germany. They wanted a way out without paying a fine.
如果他们不透露，那么像你这样的无名小卒是怎么知道的呢？让我猜猜。你的直觉？还是你在油管上最喜欢的阴谋论者告诉你的。没错，俄罗斯确实从中获利了，因为俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司与德国签订了合同，他们想在不支付罚款的情况下摆脱困境。
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs Wow, how did you spin it as a profit for Russia to cut their own pipeline
哇，你是怎么把俄罗斯切断自己的输气管道说成是获利的呢？
@close_all_tabs
@apocalypse4144 Russia was reducing the transfere of gas through the NS 1 pipeline constantly, blaming it on a "defect gas turbine". They were trying to black mail Germany to turn on the NS2 pipeline.
Right before the accident happent, gas transfer was around only 15-20%. There was also the whole drama with Canada, who was maintaning a turbine and Russia not wanting to accept the delivery because of some missing papers or something. You can look it up. The internet does not forget.
Russia was basically running out of excuses to not deliver said amount of gas the contract demanded.
And we know Russia tried to weasel their way out of the contract, because of the lawsuit that happend after. Which Gazprom lost.
俄罗斯不断减少通过北溪1号管道的天然气输送量，并将其归咎于“燃气轮机故障”。他们试图要挟德国开启北溪2号管道。
事故发生前，天然气输送量仅为15%-20%。此外，还发生了加拿大维修涡轮机的事件，而俄罗斯因为缺少一些文件或其他原因而不愿接受交付。你可以查查，互联网是不会忘记的。
俄罗斯基本上没有任何借口不按合同要求交付天然气。
我们知道俄罗斯试图用狡辩来摆脱合同，因为后来发生了诉讼，俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司败诉了。
@close_all_tabs
@WalkOverHotCoal I'm not saying Russia did it. I'm just saying Russia's state controlled Gazprom had also a motive to sabotage the pipelines.
我没说是俄罗斯干的，我只是说俄罗斯国家控制的俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司也有破坏管道的动机。
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs you still do not make sense.
1. Russia has the capacity and willingness to deliver gas to Germany. But the west pressurised Germany to look at alternative options.
2. It was big business for them, so there was no rationale for them to sabotage a critical infrastructure for their revenues.
3. Gazprom case was more on the "nationalisation" efforts on germany to keep Russia from holding control over critical infrastructure.
4. Russia were reducing supplies to force rouble payments as sanctions were put on them to curb use of Euros/dollars by Russia to buy from other countries. So Euros were of no use if Germany pays in them.
4. Russia lost business because of NS1 & NS2 damage. who gained? Ukraine and USA/Qatar/Norway.
你还是说不通。
1. 俄罗斯有能力也有意愿向德国输送天然气，但西方向德国施压，要求其寻求其他选择。
2. 这对他们来说是一笔大生意，因此他们没有理由为了自己的收入而破坏重要的基础设施。
3. 俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司的案例更多的是德国的“国有化”努力，以阻止俄罗斯控制关键基础设施。
4. 俄罗斯正在减少供应以迫使德国卢布付款，因为制裁措施限制俄罗斯使用欧元/美元从其他国家购买商品。因此，如果德国使用欧元支付，欧元对俄罗斯没有任何用处。
4. 由于北溪1号和北溪2号被破坏，俄罗斯失去了生意。谁干的？乌克兰和美国/卡塔尔/挪威。
@close_all_tabs
@apocalypse4144 1 If they want to contnue to sell their gas then they would have repaired NS1 - like it is written in the contract - Gazprom has the responsability to fix and maintane the pipelines.
2 Gazprom is state controlled. If the Kremlin says stop the business to put pressure on the Germany, then Gazprom does what the Kremlin wants.
3 now you make no sense. Try rearange that sentence or use other words.
4 Now you agree that Russia was cutting the supplies to force germany into paying ruble. Which was (again) written in the cantract that the payment had to be in Euro.
4.2. Flowers gain from rain. That doesn't mean that flowers control the clouds.
Others profit from Germany's bad decision in the past to trust Russia. So what?
1. 如果他们想继续出售天然气，那么他们就应该修复北溪1号--就像合同中写的那样--俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司有责任修复和维护管道。 俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司由国家控制。如果克里姆林宫要求停止业务以向德国施压，那么俄罗斯天然气工业股份公司就会按照克里姆林宫的要求行事。
现在你说的毫无意义，你可以试着重新调整句子或使用其他词语。
现在您同意俄罗斯切断供应是为了迫使德国使用卢布支付，而合同中（再说一次）写明必须用欧元支付。 4.2. 花朵从雨水中获益，但这并不意味着花朵可以控制云朵。
德国过去信任俄罗斯的错误决定让其他人从中获利，那又怎样？
@apocalypse4144
@close_all_tabs
That is funny
1. repair is the later step, But first include them in the investigations on NS. if they are obligated to repair, they are also entitled to be part of an joint investigation
2. All the oil companies in the world are state owned or state controlled.. isn't it?
3. you never made any sense anyways
4. If they pay in a currency that they cannot use, isn't it logical that they would like to take a different currency that they can use. So either remove the sanctions or pay in roubles. It was a fair thing expecte from any soverign nation
5. LOL. Germany profited from Russia's cheap gas. and without that, their companies are losing their competitiveness. expect more tanking and loss of jobs in near future if it still continues.
真好笑。
1. 修复是后一步，但首先要将他们纳入对北溪管道的调查。如果他们有义务修复，他们也有权参与联合调查。
2. 世界上所有的石油公司都是国有或国有控股的，不是吗？
3. 无论如何，你都说不通。
4. 如果他们用一种他们无法使用的货币支付，那么他们想换一种他们可以使用的货币，这难道不是合乎逻辑的吗？所以，要么取消制裁，要么用卢布支付，这是任何一个主权国家都应该做的公平之事。
5. 哈哈。德国从俄罗斯的廉价天然气中获利，而没有了廉价天然气，他们的公司就失去了竞争力。
@amoker27
The lack of European consumers in buying ice cars is because the fuels are expansive. Why expensive? Because Europe went to war with Russia. That is the root cause, don't blame other s
欧洲消费者不买燃油车是因为燃料昂贵。为什么昂贵？因为欧洲与俄罗斯开战了，这才是根本原因，不要怪别人。
@angelalake200
america had the same issue & look where we are now. can't afford a car at all, after we bailed out the car industry. in reality, there are enough cars sitting unbought on lots to circle the earth.
how many cars can be bought? none, can't afford it.
美国也曾面临同样的问题，看看我们现在的处境。在我们救助汽车业之后，我们根本买不起车。事实上，停在停车场上未售出的汽车足够绕地球一圈了。有多少辆车可以买？一辆都买不起。
@CarlosWiden
I always had European cars, BMW and Mercedes, now I personally prefer Chinese cars! ❤ European cars are too expensive for what they offer, besides the luxury and innovation factor is gone “
我一直有欧洲车，比如宝马、奔驰，但现在我个人更喜欢中国车！因为欧洲汽车太贵了，而且豪华和创新的因素也消失了。
@prathameshozarkar
But then u get those bmw fanboys saying they are better than every cars out there
但那些宝马车迷却说它们比所有的车都好。
@alibalaabdullahi7108
No Russian oil and Gas is the sole reason
没有俄罗斯的石油和天然气是唯一的原因。
@lixwii64
Yeh, now Germany is the first to feel the effect. The dominos has already started.
是的，现在德国最先感受到影响，多米诺骨牌已经开始了。
@ChinaSongsCollection
Not sole reason. But yes, one of the main reasons
虽然不是唯一的原因，但的确是主要的原因之一。
@AhmetYilmaz-z2s
Rising costs of cars while they use cheaper materials no shit they struggle I can't even imagine myself buying a new car because it costs too much...
汽车的成本不断上升，但使用的材料却更便宜，不开玩笑！我都不敢想象自己会买一辆新车，因为它太贵了......
@Bhairavvvv
China is definitely giving tough times to American and European markets . Other asian countries should take notes , this is coming from an Indian
中国确实给美国和欧洲市场带来了困难，其他亚洲国家应该引以为戒，这是来自印度的提醒。
@prathameshozarkar
Yes although I don't like Chinese cars (mainly coz of 'made in China') they are giving good cars especially BYD they have shocked whole industry
是的，虽然我不喜欢中国汽车（主要是因为“中国制造”），但他们也提供了好车，尤其是比亚迪，他们震惊了整个行业。
@WalkOverHotCoal
Germany, and many western nations with well-developed auto industry are facing the same problems. High energy cost, being stuck in the ICE paradigm. Then the high cost of living makes consumers less likely to pay for a new car, and auto workers demand higher pay because of the higher cost of living.
Without a doubt, China plays a big part in unsettling the global auto market. Now is China a positive agent of change, or a disruptor ? It depends on which side of the fence you are sitting.
德国和许多汽车工业发达的西方国家都面临着同样的问题：能源成本居高不下，被燃油车困住了。然后，高昂的生活成本使得消费者不太可能掏钱购买新车，而汽车工人也因为生活成本的提高而要求更高的薪酬。
毫无疑问，中国在全球汽车市场的动荡中扮演了重要的角色。现在，中国究竟是变革的积极推动者，还是破坏者？这取决于你站在哪一边。
@Anthony-lv1mi
Naturally. The Only industries that see increases are the Morgues and Weapons Manufacturers -- I wonder why? And Who Owns them?
当然。唯一出现增长的行业是停尸房和武器制造商——我想知道为什么？谁拥有它们？
@imcoolpramesh
My volkswagen repair cost after spending more than $3000 in a year came out another 5k and engine showing plenty of codes so another 5k. I bought Tesla instead.
我的大众汽车在一年内花了 3000 多美元后，维修费用又花了 5000 美元，而且发动机显示了大量故障，所以又花了 5 千美元。我买了特斯拉顶替它。
@vivarevolution3527
Yet medias are continuously degrading EVs
但媒体却在不断贬低电动汽车。
@close_all_tabs
You don't need the media for this. People don't like EVs even without the TV telling them to do so.
你不需要媒体来报道这件事。即使没有电视的宣传，人们也不喜欢电动汽车。
@dougm659
While the world’s best selling car two years in a row is a Tesla….yes, no one wants EV’s …..
虽然连续两年全球最畅销的汽车都是特斯拉……是的，没有人想要电动汽车……笑哭了。
@philweiland5391
@dougm659 If I lived in a crowded city, I might get one as a roundabout, but to think they will totally replace ICE or ICE hybrids is misguided. Cold weather, charging, weight....don't appeal to a broad swath of those outside congested cities. And the grid couldn't support it anyway!
如果我生活在拥挤的城市，我可能会买一辆作为通勤车，但认为它们将完全取代燃油车或混合动力车的想法是错误的。寒冷的天气、充电、重量....，对拥堵城市以外的广大人群没有吸引力。而且电网无论如何也无法支持它！
@Twin.motors
@philweiland5391 Cold weather - Norway, Canada proved that's not an issue
Charging.. that's usually done at night as you sleep, not a problem
Weight .. really ? Good EVs are LIGHTER than combustion cars, not heavier compare a Model Y with a Audi Q5, BMW X3, Tiguan etc . 1860kg for a 450hp sedan with more cargo than a BMW X7 is incredible.
I've driven my Y 45,000km in the past year mostly on roadtrips across Europe and it cost me 3x less than an equivalent combustion car
挪威和加拿大的寒冷天气证明这不是问题。
充电......通常在晚上睡觉时进行，这也不是问题。
重量......真的吗？好的电动汽车比燃油车更轻，而不是更重。你可以将 Model Y 与奥迪 Q5、宝马 X3、途观等汽车相比。一辆 450 马力的电动轿车重 1860 公斤，其载重比宝马 X7 还多，这简直不可思议。
在过去的一年里，我驾驶我的Model Y行驶了45000公里，主要是在欧洲各地的公路上行驶，它的成本比同等的燃油车汽车低3倍。
