中国科技如何主导世界？
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@ahkoy973
Why complain about affordable EVs? We all want good affordable products. Its good for the environment to drive EVs and use solar panels.
Chinese subsidies is for all people. US subsidies are for the super wealthy and weapons manufacturers
为什么要抱怨经济型电动车？我们都想要物美价廉的产品。驾驶电动车和使用太阳能电池板对环境有益。
中国的补贴是给所有人的，而美国的补贴是给超级富豪和武器制造商的。
@jamieclaudeo8107
Just watching this video makes it seem like China today is what North America was in the 50's and 60's. Before a bunch of people in suits and a corporate office needed to justify their jobs sending occasional emails, holding meeting about topics they don't understand, and going on "work trips"
光看这段视频，我就觉得今天的中国就像上世纪五六十年代的北美。以前，一群西装革履、在公司办公室工作的人需要偶尔发送电子邮件、召开有关他们不理解的话题的会议以及进行“工作旅行”来证明自己的工作合理性。
@stefenleung
The cameras on the driver wheel is to catch up if the driver's looking away or sleeping. It's not to send the image away for arrest, just to stop the car if that happen. A good safety measure for people inside and outside the car.
司机方向盘上的摄像头是为了捕捉司机是否在看远处或睡觉，这并不是要把图像传送出去抓人，只是为了在发生这种情况时让车停下来，这对车内和车外的人都是一个很好的安全措施。
@TheTruth-88
China has dream over capacity.. amazing.. world will thank to China for all affordable technologies
中国有产能过剩的梦想。这太神奇了，世界会感谢中国提供的所有可负担得起的技术。
@deadbutmoving
As an engineer, I visited China a few months ago to attend a convention and I was astounded. They are already ahead of us in many key technologies and the gap is widening very quickly. We Westerners need to get our act together RIGHT NOW, because the Chinese are not slowing down, in fact they are accelerating ahead. If this continues within 5 years China will be soo far ahead we will not be able to compete.
After my trip, I finally realized why the media has to constantly lie to us about China. Because if they told us the truth, we'd see how much tax money our government and their corporate masters are wasting without any real benefits to the people. The Chinese government collects much less in tax revenue from their citizens and businesses, yet have to support a population of 1.4 Billion people, and is still able to provide at least 5x more benefits to their citizens than ours. I became REALLY angry at the government and it's lobbyists after I went to China, and that's when it clicked for me; THAT'S exactly why we are not allowed to be shown how well China is doing, it would foster way too much criticism and dislike for the ruling elites in the West. China's success is a major threat to our political establishment, and it doesn't matter what the Chinese do, their existence as a successful state will always be a threat our corrupt political systems.
作为一名工程师，几个月前我到中国参加了一个会议，我感到非常震惊。他们在许多关键技术上已经领先于我们，而且差距正在迅速拉大。我们西方人需要立即行动起来，因为中国人的脚步并没有放慢，事实上他们正在加速前进。如果这种情况持续下去，不出5年，中国就会遥遥领先，我们将无法与之竞争。
旅行结束后，我终于明白为什么媒体要不断地在中国问题上欺骗我们了。因为如果他们告诉我们真相，我们就会知道我们的政府和他们的企业主浪费了多少税款却没有给人民带来任何实际利益。中国政府从公民和企业那里征收的税款要少得多，但却要养活14亿人口，而且还能为公民提供至少比我们多5倍的福利。去了中国之后，我对中国政府和我们政府的说客们感到非常愤怒，也正是从那时起，我明白了为什么他们不允许我们了解中国的发展情况，因为这会引发太多对西方统治精英的批评和厌恶。中国的成功是对我们政治体制的一大威胁，不管中国人做了什么，他们作为一个成功国家的存在将永远威胁着我们腐败的政治体制。
@yonight6871
You are very brave. Because all Western media are controlled by American NGOs. The US government is very politically hostile to Chinese socialism.BBC and CNN's reports on China are all negative.Western media always describe China as: "backward smoggy cities, where everyone still rides bicycles and wear grey old clothes because they are all poor and starving!The streets are full of police and soldiers, and people live in fear."Oh........All of my western friends who made visits to China came back with extremely high praises on China.All cities are modern.clean and very safety.There are no guns, drugs, homeless people, LGBT, delinquents, thieves, or violence in China. It is a very safe country.This the true.True you can not see it in Western media when they speak about China.
你很勇敢，因为所有的西方媒体都是由美国非政府组织控制的，美国政府在政治上非常敌视中国社会主义。BBC和CNN对中国的报道都是负面的：“落后的充满雾霾的城市，每个人仍然骑着自行车，穿着灰色的旧衣服，因为他们都很穷，都在挨饿！街上到处都是警察和士兵，人们生活在恐惧之中。"哦........，我所有到中国访问过的西方朋友在回来后都对中国给予了极高的评价。中国所有的城市都是现代化的、干净的、非常安全的。在中国没有枪支、毒品、无家可归者、LGBT、不良少年、小偷或暴力”。中国是一个非常安全的国家，这是事实，但在西方媒体谈论中国时你却看不到这一点。
@shawng6332
More than 70% buses were eletrical in Beijing since 20 years ago. From wire-charged to battery-powered, they've gone through a whole process of development in this industry for decades. It's not achieved all of a sudden
北京70%以上的公交车都是电动的，从20年前的有线充电到电池供电，这个行业经历了几十年的发展过程，并不是一下子就能实现的。
@buddy1155
You can't compare Chinese prices with western prices, an VW ID.3 costs in China €18K and in Europe it is €35K, Building, logistics and sales are just a lot cheaper.
As soon as you start shipping or building in a western country it becomes a lot more expensive.
你不能拿中国的价格与西方的价格相比，一辆大众ID.3汽车在中国的价格是1.8万欧元，而在欧洲则是3.5万欧元。
一旦开始在西方国家运输或建造，价格就会变得昂贵得多。
@justinlynch6691
I think automation changes this. Then it just becomes cost of electricity and government grabbing their share
我认为自动化会改变这一点，那就只剩下电力成本和政府攫取的份额了。
@buddy1155
@justinlynch6691 Costs are still more expensive in the west, just think about the ground prices for the factory, or all the materials to build the factory but even electricity. You can replace "cheap" labour with automation but you have to hire more expensive engineers to maintain the robotics in the factory.
Automation will help a bit but will not make the price difference go away.
@justinlynch6691 西方的成本仍然更高，想想工厂的地价或者建厂的所有材料，甚至电费。你可以用自动化取代“廉价”劳动力，但你必须雇佣更昂贵的工程师来维护工厂的机器人。
虽然自动化会有一些帮助，但不会让价格差异消失。
@dfro7159
We actually can’t have that level of efficiency and advancement in Canada. They have the “advantage” of dictating what is the priority. Our Canadian problem is we can’t make a decision that may benefit 80% of the population because 5% of that population makes the most noise and makes it impossible to complete that goal.
We need ingenuity and genius leading the way. Instead we have people that barely have an arts degree making political policy based on the fringe group of radical ideas. We need to go back to common sense building and funding things that make Canada better, not sending money away to areas that don’t share our same collective values. We as Canadians have a broke system, that does not promote ingenuity and building greatness. We could have everything that this country seems to show off, we actually have everything they are using to build there economy with.
实际上，我们在加拿大不可能有这样的效率和进步。他们的“优势”是可以决定什么是优先事项。我们加拿大的问题是我们无法做出可能惠及80%人口的决策，因为其中5%的人发出的噪音最大，导致无法完成这一目标。
我们需要智慧和天才来引领方向。相反，我们却让那些几乎没有文科学位的人根据激进思想的边缘群体来制定政治政策。我们需要回归常识，建设和资助那些能让加拿大变得更好的事物，而不是把钱送到那些与我们的集体价值观不一致的地区。作为加拿大人，我们的制度已经破产，无法促进创造力和伟大事业的发展。虽然我们可以拥有这个国家似乎炫耀的一切，但我们实际上拥有他们用来建设经济的一切。
@julienraimbert79
its call they are not sending their product to be made cheaper elsewhere , they design and produce in house in the same bloody building . delocalisation was the biggest scam ever, we lost the knowledge and the trade back in the day
他们不会将产品送到其他地方去降低成本，而是在同一栋大楼里进行设计和生产。离岸外包是有史以来最大的骗局，我们失去了知识和贸易。
@remix-yy1hs
Yes sir. Now China is moving inland to keep families together. Before they had to move to big cities in the coast but now they can stay in their region and make the same money and life is cheaper in tier 4-5 cities. China CPC really cares about its people. The coast cities will make advance technology products
是的，先生。现在，中国正在向内陆迁移以保持家庭团聚。以前他们不得不搬到沿海的大城市，但现在他们可以留在自己的地区，赚同样的钱，而且四五线城市的生活更便宜。中国gcd真的很关心人民。沿海城市将生产先进的科技产品。
@JackReacheround
All NA manufacturers have been given AMPLE opportunity to make cheap cars but they will ALWAYS put profits before people. Until we can force companies to take losses (in this case simply make not as much profit) this will not stop here. How much money have we given them? and they act like 40 grand is super cheap. But then the government is in a tough spot because those companies can just up and take the factories overseas or down south if they're taxed for regulated too much; it happens all the time here in Canada where companies leave the market due to high operational costs, But they're only high in the sense that they can't make more and more billions every year.
所有的北美制造商都有足够的机会制造廉价汽车，但他们总是把利润放在第一位。除非我们能迫使公司承担损失（在这种情况下，只是赚取更少的利润），否则这种情况不会停止。我们给了他们多少钱？他们却表现得好像 4 万美元超级便宜。但这样一来，政府就很难办了，因为这些公司如果被征收过多的税，就会把工厂搬到海外或南方去；在加拿大，公司因运营成本过高而退出市场的情况时有发生，但这只是因为他们无法每年赚取越来越多的数十亿美元。
@halofour01
It's all down to the greed of the people at the top. They could care less about our countries, our people, or the world. It's just a game to them. Who can pocket the most money and to hell with everyone and everything else. Protectionism is bullshit and it's dragging us down. If the executives won't accept a reasonable compensation package and put the money back into the company and the people then we need to let them fail.
这一切都是高层的贪婪造成的，他们根本不在乎我们的国家、人民或世界。对他们来说，这只是一场游戏。谁能把最多的钱装进口袋，谁就能让所有人和所有事都见鬼去吧。保护主义是胡说八道，它正在拖累我们。如果高管们不接受合理的薪酬方案，不把钱投入到公司和人民身上，那么我们就应该让他们失败。
@aliettienne2907
7:46 With thirty million people living in that city, and you haven't had a line is just unbelievable. We need this type of efficiency everywhere in huge populated cities. I like to hear such innovation. 16:17 This is exactly how we need to beautify our environmental scenery, just like this drain or river in this episode. The scenery is breathtaking.
7:46 这个城市有三千万人口，而你们却没有看到一条排队的队伍，这简直令人难以置信。在人口众多的城市，我们到处都需要这样的效率。我喜欢听到这样的创新。16:17 这正是我们需要美化环境景色的方式，就像本期节目中的这条水渠或河流一样。这里的景色令人叹为观止。
@alexandermelbaus2351
Actually, it is unbelievable. Maybe where they are travelling is not a common area for the average person living in China; The video didn't seem to be showing that much population density for 30 million people.
事实上，这太不可思议了。也许他们旅行的地方并不是中国普通人生活的区域；视频似乎没有显示3000万人的人口密度。
@lovelight736
Not American appreciating what peace, beauty and innovation truly feels like. They actually toured a haven. And they felt like Africans that truly traveled out of their countries to a more developed one.
美国人并没有真正领略到和平、美丽和创新的真正感受。他们实际上参观了一个避风港。他们感觉自己就像是真正走出自己的国家，来到一个更发达的国家的非洲人。
@lagrangewei
stock buyback should honestly be illegal for any company taking subsidy. buyback is what got boeing into the trouble it is in now and it just sad to see such a great company ruin itself so the CEO and shareholder can milk it for money...
对于所有接受补贴的公司来说，股票回购都是非法的。股票回购是波音公司陷入困境的原因，看到这样一家伟大的公司毁于一旦，而首席执行官和股东却可以从中获利，实在令人难过......
@michaelclark3192
It's almost like straight up capitalism over all else isn't the best for innovation or the people. Here in Australia American cars are known to be bad quality so have never sold well but the rise of amazing Chinese cars that gain more popularity every day are worrying the Japanese and Koreans now. Even just today I learnt that Citroen pulled out of our market by its distributor as it only sold 83 cars this year and is being replaced by another Chinese brand Foton coming back. They last gained a following by selling Cummins powered medium pickups for a very cheap price here in the 2010s.
纯粹的资本主义压倒一切对创新和人民来说都不是最好的选择。在澳大利亚，美国汽车以质量差著称，所以销量一直不好，但中国汽车的崛起却让日本和韩国人感到担忧。就在今天，我得知雪铁龙汽车因今年仅售出83辆而被其经销商撤出了我们的市场，取而代之的是另一个中国品牌福田汽车的回归。福田汽车上一次获得追捧还是在2010年代，当时他们以非常低廉的价格销售康明斯中型皮卡。
@albertcadgame8314
Support Chinese EVs so the prices of EVs will reduce worldwide. Then most people in the near future can afford to own a slick EV supercar, not only in China but in western countries too.
Becos competition will push prices down.
支持中国电动汽车，这样全球电动汽车的价格就会下降。这样，在不久的将来，不仅在中国，而且在西方国家，大多数人都能买得起漂亮的电动超级跑车。
因为竞争会推动价格下降。
@treybradley1698
Lived in Shanghai 15 years ago. Maybe a lot has changed.
I heard from friends that still live there things got a lot less crowded around 2020…
15年前我生活在上海，也许现在变化很大。
我听还住在那里的朋友说，2020年前后，那里的人少了很多......
@DeEmperor1
The comments.
I'm from Africa. If not for China, we won't have had access to so many technologies that we have today. Chinese affordable products made so many things that we previously above our finance that came from the West, suddenly available to acquire. Plus China inventing and manufacturing so many things, makes obtainable products more vast than what is in the West.
我来自非洲。如果没有中国，我们今天就无法获得如此多的技术。中国的平价产品让我们突然可以买到许多以前我们无法负担的、来自西方的东西。再加上中国发明和制造了这么多东西，使得可获得的产品比西方的更丰富。
@chrisfreemesser5707
Complicated subject. The Chinese government has a history of heavily subsidizing their industries so they can sell products at crazy low prices and put western competition out of business, and I have zero doubt all of these "amazingly cheap EVs" are only cheap because of this. In that case putting a tariff on their vehicles is appropriate. However, domestic companies have a history of using tariffs to justify raising their prices for no good reason. Case in point, domestic steel became 25% more expensive when Trump tariffed Chinese steel, and that screwed over companies like Ford who buy (bought?) all of their steel from domestic producers.
Long story short, when for-profit entities are involved, the consumer will get screwed in some way/shape/form.
这是一个复杂的问题。中国政府一直在大力补贴本国工业，这样他们就能以疯狂的低价销售产品，从而使西方竞争者望而却步，我毫不怀疑所有这些“便宜得惊人的电动汽车”之所以便宜就是因为这一点。在这种情况下，对他们的汽车征收关税是合适的。然而，国内公司历来都会利用关税来无端提高价格。例如，特朗普对中国钢铁征收关税后，国内钢铁的价格上涨了25%，这让福特等所有钢铁都来自国内生产商的公司很吃亏。
长话短说，只要涉及到营利实体，消费者就会以某种方式/形式/形态受到损害。
@Torchedini
Can we also compare the average buying power of a Chinese customer to a us person? Quick google says that a Chinese person has 22K USD, the US person has 40K.
So the cars are actually pretty evenly priced. Luxury is still very luxury. It is just that Chinese luxury feels more attainable.
我们能否比较一下中国消费者和美国消费者的平均购买力？谷歌快速搜索显示中国人的平均购买力为2.2万美元，而美国人的平均购买力为4万美元。
因此，两国汽车的价格实际上是相当平均的，豪华车仍然是豪华车，只是在中国豪华车更容易负担得起。
@kalvinravn8431
Funny this feels like the late 1980’s when I saw how advanced the technology is in Japan. I’m from Indiana here in The USA and it seems we are always playing catch up to vehicle technology but we sure do have the most advanced Military….Do we???
有趣的是这感觉就像1980年代后期，当时我看到日本的技术是多么先进。我来自美国印第安纳州，似乎我们总是在追赶汽车技术，但我们确实拥有最先进的军事技术....对吗？
@bobsmith3983
The USA doesn't have the most advanced military. It has fallen behind in that also. The Houthi proved it.
美国没有最先进的军队，它在这方面也已经落后了，胡塞武装证明了这一点。
@williamhu1401
The US certainly still spends the most money on their military of any nation, but there probably should be questions about how far said money is going given how profit driven the arms industry seems to be. There is also the issue of potential manufacturing shortfalls in the case of a sudden military escalation.
The one major advantage the US does have over China in their military is the fact that their military has actually fought multiple conflicts in the past few decades, whereas the pla hasn't really had to fight much since the 1980s in Vietnam. How much that experience actually matters against a peer opponent instead of much less well-equipped Middle Eastern nations and insurgents remains to be seen.
Ideally we never get a major armed conflict between 2 nuclear capable nations in the first place.
在所有国家中，美国的军费开支无疑仍然是最多的，但鉴于军火工业似乎是以利益为导向，人们或许应该质疑这些钱到底花在了什么地方。此外，如果军事冲突突然升级，还存在潜在的制造短缺问题。
与中国相比，美国在军事方面的一个主要优势是其军队在过去几十年中实际参加过多次冲突，而中国人民解放军自上世纪80年代的越南战争以来就没有真正打过什么仗。面对同级对手而不是装备差得多的中东国家和叛乱分子，这些经验究竟有多重要还有待观察。
理想的情况是我们永远不会在两个有核能力的国家之间发生重大的武装冲突。
@ttonygreybeard
At least in North America you still have vehicle manufacturing, GM, Ford & Toyota all pulled out of Australia now we are forced to buy utter crap imported from China, Korea & India at high prices. To own a GM pick up we have to import it change it to righthand drive & pay $100k+for a 5 year old pick up... I want a V8 or diesel in my vehicles not an oversized vibrator motor & touch screen.
至少在北美你还有汽车制造业。通用、福特和丰田都撤出了澳大利亚，现在我们只能高价购买从中国、韩国和印度进口的垃圾汽车。要想拥有一辆通用皮卡，我们必须进口它，把它改成右舵驱动，要花10多万美元买一辆5年前的皮卡...... 我要的是V8或柴油车，而不是超大的振动马达和触摸屏。
@Vaino_Hotti
I will start believing in Chinese quality when their stuff starts hitting 10, 15, 20 years old. Already seeing disappointing longevity and quality from the Chinese MG EVs...
I want to believe, but it'll take alot of convincing.
Also screw all the screens and gimmicks, those will never sell a car to me. No matter if its Chinese, japanese or german.
当他们的产品达到10年、15年、20年的寿命时，我才会开始相信中国产品的质量。中国名爵的电动汽车的寿命和质量令人失望......
我想相信，但需要很多说服力。
此外，去他妈的屏幕和噱头，不管是中国车、日本车还是德国车，这些永远不会让我对汽车产生兴趣。
@TheManInTheRing
Anything the U.S cant control they sanction or tariff. Soon the american people are gonna see it for themselves, the Chinese are so far ahead when it comes to quality of life technology and cost of living. tariffs have always meant you know you cant compete.
凡是美国无法控制的，他们就会制裁或征收关税。很快，美国人民就会亲眼看到中国人在生活质量、技术和生活成本方面遥遥领先。
Why complain about affordable EVs? We all want good affordable products. Its good for the environment to drive EVs and use solar panels.
Chinese subsidies is for all people. US subsidies are for the super wealthy and weapons manufacturers
为什么要抱怨经济型电动车？我们都想要物美价廉的产品。驾驶电动车和使用太阳能电池板对环境有益。
中国的补贴是给所有人的，而美国的补贴是给超级富豪和武器制造商的。
@jamieclaudeo8107
Just watching this video makes it seem like China today is what North America was in the 50's and 60's. Before a bunch of people in suits and a corporate office needed to justify their jobs sending occasional emails, holding meeting about topics they don't understand, and going on "work trips"
光看这段视频，我就觉得今天的中国就像上世纪五六十年代的北美。以前，一群西装革履、在公司办公室工作的人需要偶尔发送电子邮件、召开有关他们不理解的话题的会议以及进行“工作旅行”来证明自己的工作合理性。
@stefenleung
The cameras on the driver wheel is to catch up if the driver's looking away or sleeping. It's not to send the image away for arrest, just to stop the car if that happen. A good safety measure for people inside and outside the car.
司机方向盘上的摄像头是为了捕捉司机是否在看远处或睡觉，这并不是要把图像传送出去抓人，只是为了在发生这种情况时让车停下来，这对车内和车外的人都是一个很好的安全措施。
@TheTruth-88
China has dream over capacity.. amazing.. world will thank to China for all affordable technologies
中国有产能过剩的梦想。这太神奇了，世界会感谢中国提供的所有可负担得起的技术。
@deadbutmoving
As an engineer, I visited China a few months ago to attend a convention and I was astounded. They are already ahead of us in many key technologies and the gap is widening very quickly. We Westerners need to get our act together RIGHT NOW, because the Chinese are not slowing down, in fact they are accelerating ahead. If this continues within 5 years China will be soo far ahead we will not be able to compete.
After my trip, I finally realized why the media has to constantly lie to us about China. Because if they told us the truth, we'd see how much tax money our government and their corporate masters are wasting without any real benefits to the people. The Chinese government collects much less in tax revenue from their citizens and businesses, yet have to support a population of 1.4 Billion people, and is still able to provide at least 5x more benefits to their citizens than ours. I became REALLY angry at the government and it's lobbyists after I went to China, and that's when it clicked for me; THAT'S exactly why we are not allowed to be shown how well China is doing, it would foster way too much criticism and dislike for the ruling elites in the West. China's success is a major threat to our political establishment, and it doesn't matter what the Chinese do, their existence as a successful state will always be a threat our corrupt political systems.
作为一名工程师，几个月前我到中国参加了一个会议，我感到非常震惊。他们在许多关键技术上已经领先于我们，而且差距正在迅速拉大。我们西方人需要立即行动起来，因为中国人的脚步并没有放慢，事实上他们正在加速前进。如果这种情况持续下去，不出5年，中国就会遥遥领先，我们将无法与之竞争。
旅行结束后，我终于明白为什么媒体要不断地在中国问题上欺骗我们了。因为如果他们告诉我们真相，我们就会知道我们的政府和他们的企业主浪费了多少税款却没有给人民带来任何实际利益。中国政府从公民和企业那里征收的税款要少得多，但却要养活14亿人口，而且还能为公民提供至少比我们多5倍的福利。去了中国之后，我对中国政府和我们政府的说客们感到非常愤怒，也正是从那时起，我明白了为什么他们不允许我们了解中国的发展情况，因为这会引发太多对西方统治精英的批评和厌恶。中国的成功是对我们政治体制的一大威胁，不管中国人做了什么，他们作为一个成功国家的存在将永远威胁着我们腐败的政治体制。
@yonight6871
You are very brave. Because all Western media are controlled by American NGOs. The US government is very politically hostile to Chinese socialism.BBC and CNN's reports on China are all negative.Western media always describe China as: "backward smoggy cities, where everyone still rides bicycles and wear grey old clothes because they are all poor and starving!The streets are full of police and soldiers, and people live in fear."Oh........All of my western friends who made visits to China came back with extremely high praises on China.All cities are modern.clean and very safety.There are no guns, drugs, homeless people, LGBT, delinquents, thieves, or violence in China. It is a very safe country.This the true.True you can not see it in Western media when they speak about China.
你很勇敢，因为所有的西方媒体都是由美国非政府组织控制的，美国政府在政治上非常敌视中国社会主义。BBC和CNN对中国的报道都是负面的：“落后的充满雾霾的城市，每个人仍然骑着自行车，穿着灰色的旧衣服，因为他们都很穷，都在挨饿！街上到处都是警察和士兵，人们生活在恐惧之中。"哦........，我所有到中国访问过的西方朋友在回来后都对中国给予了极高的评价。中国所有的城市都是现代化的、干净的、非常安全的。在中国没有枪支、毒品、无家可归者、LGBT、不良少年、小偷或暴力”。中国是一个非常安全的国家，这是事实，但在西方媒体谈论中国时你却看不到这一点。
@shawng6332
More than 70% buses were eletrical in Beijing since 20 years ago. From wire-charged to battery-powered, they've gone through a whole process of development in this industry for decades. It's not achieved all of a sudden
北京70%以上的公交车都是电动的，从20年前的有线充电到电池供电，这个行业经历了几十年的发展过程，并不是一下子就能实现的。
@buddy1155
You can't compare Chinese prices with western prices, an VW ID.3 costs in China €18K and in Europe it is €35K, Building, logistics and sales are just a lot cheaper.
As soon as you start shipping or building in a western country it becomes a lot more expensive.
你不能拿中国的价格与西方的价格相比，一辆大众ID.3汽车在中国的价格是1.8万欧元，而在欧洲则是3.5万欧元。
一旦开始在西方国家运输或建造，价格就会变得昂贵得多。
@justinlynch6691
I think automation changes this. Then it just becomes cost of electricity and government grabbing their share
我认为自动化会改变这一点，那就只剩下电力成本和政府攫取的份额了。
@buddy1155
@justinlynch6691 Costs are still more expensive in the west, just think about the ground prices for the factory, or all the materials to build the factory but even electricity. You can replace "cheap" labour with automation but you have to hire more expensive engineers to maintain the robotics in the factory.
Automation will help a bit but will not make the price difference go away.
@justinlynch6691 西方的成本仍然更高，想想工厂的地价或者建厂的所有材料，甚至电费。你可以用自动化取代“廉价”劳动力，但你必须雇佣更昂贵的工程师来维护工厂的机器人。
虽然自动化会有一些帮助，但不会让价格差异消失。
@dfro7159
We actually can’t have that level of efficiency and advancement in Canada. They have the “advantage” of dictating what is the priority. Our Canadian problem is we can’t make a decision that may benefit 80% of the population because 5% of that population makes the most noise and makes it impossible to complete that goal.
We need ingenuity and genius leading the way. Instead we have people that barely have an arts degree making political policy based on the fringe group of radical ideas. We need to go back to common sense building and funding things that make Canada better, not sending money away to areas that don’t share our same collective values. We as Canadians have a broke system, that does not promote ingenuity and building greatness. We could have everything that this country seems to show off, we actually have everything they are using to build there economy with.
实际上，我们在加拿大不可能有这样的效率和进步。他们的“优势”是可以决定什么是优先事项。我们加拿大的问题是我们无法做出可能惠及80%人口的决策，因为其中5%的人发出的噪音最大，导致无法完成这一目标。
我们需要智慧和天才来引领方向。相反，我们却让那些几乎没有文科学位的人根据激进思想的边缘群体来制定政治政策。我们需要回归常识，建设和资助那些能让加拿大变得更好的事物，而不是把钱送到那些与我们的集体价值观不一致的地区。作为加拿大人，我们的制度已经破产，无法促进创造力和伟大事业的发展。虽然我们可以拥有这个国家似乎炫耀的一切，但我们实际上拥有他们用来建设经济的一切。
@julienraimbert79
its call they are not sending their product to be made cheaper elsewhere , they design and produce in house in the same bloody building . delocalisation was the biggest scam ever, we lost the knowledge and the trade back in the day
他们不会将产品送到其他地方去降低成本，而是在同一栋大楼里进行设计和生产。离岸外包是有史以来最大的骗局，我们失去了知识和贸易。
@remix-yy1hs
Yes sir. Now China is moving inland to keep families together. Before they had to move to big cities in the coast but now they can stay in their region and make the same money and life is cheaper in tier 4-5 cities. China CPC really cares about its people. The coast cities will make advance technology products
是的，先生。现在，中国正在向内陆迁移以保持家庭团聚。以前他们不得不搬到沿海的大城市，但现在他们可以留在自己的地区，赚同样的钱，而且四五线城市的生活更便宜。中国gcd真的很关心人民。沿海城市将生产先进的科技产品。
@JackReacheround
All NA manufacturers have been given AMPLE opportunity to make cheap cars but they will ALWAYS put profits before people. Until we can force companies to take losses (in this case simply make not as much profit) this will not stop here. How much money have we given them? and they act like 40 grand is super cheap. But then the government is in a tough spot because those companies can just up and take the factories overseas or down south if they're taxed for regulated too much; it happens all the time here in Canada where companies leave the market due to high operational costs, But they're only high in the sense that they can't make more and more billions every year.
所有的北美制造商都有足够的机会制造廉价汽车，但他们总是把利润放在第一位。除非我们能迫使公司承担损失（在这种情况下，只是赚取更少的利润），否则这种情况不会停止。我们给了他们多少钱？他们却表现得好像 4 万美元超级便宜。但这样一来，政府就很难办了，因为这些公司如果被征收过多的税，就会把工厂搬到海外或南方去；在加拿大，公司因运营成本过高而退出市场的情况时有发生，但这只是因为他们无法每年赚取越来越多的数十亿美元。
@halofour01
It's all down to the greed of the people at the top. They could care less about our countries, our people, or the world. It's just a game to them. Who can pocket the most money and to hell with everyone and everything else. Protectionism is bullshit and it's dragging us down. If the executives won't accept a reasonable compensation package and put the money back into the company and the people then we need to let them fail.
这一切都是高层的贪婪造成的，他们根本不在乎我们的国家、人民或世界。对他们来说，这只是一场游戏。谁能把最多的钱装进口袋，谁就能让所有人和所有事都见鬼去吧。保护主义是胡说八道，它正在拖累我们。如果高管们不接受合理的薪酬方案，不把钱投入到公司和人民身上，那么我们就应该让他们失败。
@aliettienne2907
7:46 With thirty million people living in that city, and you haven't had a line is just unbelievable. We need this type of efficiency everywhere in huge populated cities. I like to hear such innovation. 16:17 This is exactly how we need to beautify our environmental scenery, just like this drain or river in this episode. The scenery is breathtaking.
7:46 这个城市有三千万人口，而你们却没有看到一条排队的队伍，这简直令人难以置信。在人口众多的城市，我们到处都需要这样的效率。我喜欢听到这样的创新。16:17 这正是我们需要美化环境景色的方式，就像本期节目中的这条水渠或河流一样。这里的景色令人叹为观止。
@alexandermelbaus2351
Actually, it is unbelievable. Maybe where they are travelling is not a common area for the average person living in China; The video didn't seem to be showing that much population density for 30 million people.
事实上，这太不可思议了。也许他们旅行的地方并不是中国普通人生活的区域；视频似乎没有显示3000万人的人口密度。
@lovelight736
Not American appreciating what peace, beauty and innovation truly feels like. They actually toured a haven. And they felt like Africans that truly traveled out of their countries to a more developed one.
美国人并没有真正领略到和平、美丽和创新的真正感受。他们实际上参观了一个避风港。他们感觉自己就像是真正走出自己的国家，来到一个更发达的国家的非洲人。
@lagrangewei
stock buyback should honestly be illegal for any company taking subsidy. buyback is what got boeing into the trouble it is in now and it just sad to see such a great company ruin itself so the CEO and shareholder can milk it for money...
对于所有接受补贴的公司来说，股票回购都是非法的。股票回购是波音公司陷入困境的原因，看到这样一家伟大的公司毁于一旦，而首席执行官和股东却可以从中获利，实在令人难过......
@michaelclark3192
It's almost like straight up capitalism over all else isn't the best for innovation or the people. Here in Australia American cars are known to be bad quality so have never sold well but the rise of amazing Chinese cars that gain more popularity every day are worrying the Japanese and Koreans now. Even just today I learnt that Citroen pulled out of our market by its distributor as it only sold 83 cars this year and is being replaced by another Chinese brand Foton coming back. They last gained a following by selling Cummins powered medium pickups for a very cheap price here in the 2010s.
纯粹的资本主义压倒一切对创新和人民来说都不是最好的选择。在澳大利亚，美国汽车以质量差著称，所以销量一直不好，但中国汽车的崛起却让日本和韩国人感到担忧。就在今天，我得知雪铁龙汽车因今年仅售出83辆而被其经销商撤出了我们的市场，取而代之的是另一个中国品牌福田汽车的回归。福田汽车上一次获得追捧还是在2010年代，当时他们以非常低廉的价格销售康明斯中型皮卡。
@albertcadgame8314
Support Chinese EVs so the prices of EVs will reduce worldwide. Then most people in the near future can afford to own a slick EV supercar, not only in China but in western countries too.
Becos competition will push prices down.
支持中国电动汽车，这样全球电动汽车的价格就会下降。这样，在不久的将来，不仅在中国，而且在西方国家，大多数人都能买得起漂亮的电动超级跑车。
因为竞争会推动价格下降。
@treybradley1698
Lived in Shanghai 15 years ago. Maybe a lot has changed.
I heard from friends that still live there things got a lot less crowded around 2020…
15年前我生活在上海，也许现在变化很大。
我听还住在那里的朋友说，2020年前后，那里的人少了很多......
@DeEmperor1
The comments.
I'm from Africa. If not for China, we won't have had access to so many technologies that we have today. Chinese affordable products made so many things that we previously above our finance that came from the West, suddenly available to acquire. Plus China inventing and manufacturing so many things, makes obtainable products more vast than what is in the West.
我来自非洲。如果没有中国，我们今天就无法获得如此多的技术。中国的平价产品让我们突然可以买到许多以前我们无法负担的、来自西方的东西。再加上中国发明和制造了这么多东西，使得可获得的产品比西方的更丰富。
@chrisfreemesser5707
Complicated subject. The Chinese government has a history of heavily subsidizing their industries so they can sell products at crazy low prices and put western competition out of business, and I have zero doubt all of these "amazingly cheap EVs" are only cheap because of this. In that case putting a tariff on their vehicles is appropriate. However, domestic companies have a history of using tariffs to justify raising their prices for no good reason. Case in point, domestic steel became 25% more expensive when Trump tariffed Chinese steel, and that screwed over companies like Ford who buy (bought?) all of their steel from domestic producers.
Long story short, when for-profit entities are involved, the consumer will get screwed in some way/shape/form.
这是一个复杂的问题。中国政府一直在大力补贴本国工业，这样他们就能以疯狂的低价销售产品，从而使西方竞争者望而却步，我毫不怀疑所有这些“便宜得惊人的电动汽车”之所以便宜就是因为这一点。在这种情况下，对他们的汽车征收关税是合适的。然而，国内公司历来都会利用关税来无端提高价格。例如，特朗普对中国钢铁征收关税后，国内钢铁的价格上涨了25%，这让福特等所有钢铁都来自国内生产商的公司很吃亏。
长话短说，只要涉及到营利实体，消费者就会以某种方式/形式/形态受到损害。
@Torchedini
Can we also compare the average buying power of a Chinese customer to a us person? Quick google says that a Chinese person has 22K USD, the US person has 40K.
So the cars are actually pretty evenly priced. Luxury is still very luxury. It is just that Chinese luxury feels more attainable.
我们能否比较一下中国消费者和美国消费者的平均购买力？谷歌快速搜索显示中国人的平均购买力为2.2万美元，而美国人的平均购买力为4万美元。
因此，两国汽车的价格实际上是相当平均的，豪华车仍然是豪华车，只是在中国豪华车更容易负担得起。
@kalvinravn8431
Funny this feels like the late 1980’s when I saw how advanced the technology is in Japan. I’m from Indiana here in The USA and it seems we are always playing catch up to vehicle technology but we sure do have the most advanced Military….Do we???
有趣的是这感觉就像1980年代后期，当时我看到日本的技术是多么先进。我来自美国印第安纳州，似乎我们总是在追赶汽车技术，但我们确实拥有最先进的军事技术....对吗？
@bobsmith3983
The USA doesn't have the most advanced military. It has fallen behind in that also. The Houthi proved it.
美国没有最先进的军队，它在这方面也已经落后了，胡塞武装证明了这一点。
@williamhu1401
The US certainly still spends the most money on their military of any nation, but there probably should be questions about how far said money is going given how profit driven the arms industry seems to be. There is also the issue of potential manufacturing shortfalls in the case of a sudden military escalation.
The one major advantage the US does have over China in their military is the fact that their military has actually fought multiple conflicts in the past few decades, whereas the pla hasn't really had to fight much since the 1980s in Vietnam. How much that experience actually matters against a peer opponent instead of much less well-equipped Middle Eastern nations and insurgents remains to be seen.
Ideally we never get a major armed conflict between 2 nuclear capable nations in the first place.
在所有国家中，美国的军费开支无疑仍然是最多的，但鉴于军火工业似乎是以利益为导向，人们或许应该质疑这些钱到底花在了什么地方。此外，如果军事冲突突然升级，还存在潜在的制造短缺问题。
与中国相比，美国在军事方面的一个主要优势是其军队在过去几十年中实际参加过多次冲突，而中国人民解放军自上世纪80年代的越南战争以来就没有真正打过什么仗。面对同级对手而不是装备差得多的中东国家和叛乱分子，这些经验究竟有多重要还有待观察。
理想的情况是我们永远不会在两个有核能力的国家之间发生重大的武装冲突。
@ttonygreybeard
At least in North America you still have vehicle manufacturing, GM, Ford & Toyota all pulled out of Australia now we are forced to buy utter crap imported from China, Korea & India at high prices. To own a GM pick up we have to import it change it to righthand drive & pay $100k+for a 5 year old pick up... I want a V8 or diesel in my vehicles not an oversized vibrator motor & touch screen.
至少在北美你还有汽车制造业。通用、福特和丰田都撤出了澳大利亚，现在我们只能高价购买从中国、韩国和印度进口的垃圾汽车。要想拥有一辆通用皮卡，我们必须进口它，把它改成右舵驱动，要花10多万美元买一辆5年前的皮卡...... 我要的是V8或柴油车，而不是超大的振动马达和触摸屏。
@Vaino_Hotti
I will start believing in Chinese quality when their stuff starts hitting 10, 15, 20 years old. Already seeing disappointing longevity and quality from the Chinese MG EVs...
I want to believe, but it'll take alot of convincing.
Also screw all the screens and gimmicks, those will never sell a car to me. No matter if its Chinese, japanese or german.
当他们的产品达到10年、15年、20年的寿命时，我才会开始相信中国产品的质量。中国名爵的电动汽车的寿命和质量令人失望......
我想相信，但需要很多说服力。
此外，去他妈的屏幕和噱头，不管是中国车、日本车还是德国车，这些永远不会让我对汽车产生兴趣。
@TheManInTheRing
Anything the U.S cant control they sanction or tariff. Soon the american people are gonna see it for themselves, the Chinese are so far ahead when it comes to quality of life technology and cost of living. tariffs have always meant you know you cant compete.
凡是美国无法控制的，他们就会制裁或征收关税。很快，美国人民就会亲眼看到中国人在生活质量、技术和生活成本方面遥遥领先。
