歼-35A现身福建舰,机翼现折叠状态!美国网友慌了:中国航母电磁弹射比福特号还先进?歼-35还能折叠翼,这仗怎么打?
正文翻译
New images circulating online appear to show the carrier-based J-35A multirole fighter aboard China’s Type 003 aircraft carrier, Fujian. The aircraft is seen in a new color scheme, and in the background are what appear to be the first images of the J-35A with its wings folded — a key feature for carrier operations.
What do you think? Has China figured out carrier aviation? Why so much secrecy around the J-35’s wing-fold design?
近日网络上流传的新照片显示,中国003型航母"福建舰"甲板上出现了舰载型歼-35A多用途战斗机。该战机采用了全新涂装,背景中首次出现了机翼折叠状态的歼-35A——这是舰载机运作的关键特征。
各位怎么看?中国是否已经掌握了航母航空作战体系?为何歼-35的机翼折叠设计如此神秘?
New images circulating online appear to show the carrier-based J-35A multirole fighter aboard China’s Type 003 aircraft carrier, Fujian. The aircraft is seen in a new color scheme, and in the background are what appear to be the first images of the J-35A with its wings folded — a key feature for carrier operations.What do you think? Has China figured out carrier aviation? Why so much secrecy around the J-35’s wing-fold design?
近日网络上流传的新照片显示,中国003型航母"福建舰"甲板上出现了舰载型歼-35A多用途战斗机。该战机采用了全新涂装,背景中首次出现了机翼折叠状态的歼-35A——这是舰载机运作的关键特征。
各位怎么看?中国是否已经掌握了航母航空作战体系?为何歼-35的机翼折叠设计如此神秘?
评论翻译
@laocongge
These dudes seem pretty sad to see j35 be able to fold their wings
看到歼-35能折叠机翼,这几个人看起来挺难过的。
@Marijuanak That moment of silence... trying to think of something to criticize
那一刻的沉默……他们正努力想词儿来挑刺呢。
@Dutchthink28nmisAdvanced @Marijuanak yup the USA is lucky China ain't warmongers. And the most likely scenario is the USA will come up against an export version of the Chinese jets and missiles in a conflict with a developing country.
@Marijuanak 是的,美国应该庆幸中国不是好战分子。最可能发生的情况是,美国在与某个发展中国家的冲突中,遇上中国战机和导弹的出口版本。
@millennialtrucker6435 @Marijuanak it’s Chinese, there is ALWAYS something to criticise Temu carriers, Temu aircraft
@Marijuanak 既然是中国货,那永远都有挑刺的空间。 拼多多(Temu)版航母,拼多多版飞机。
@PhiloSurfer @millennialtrucker6435 Or made of tofu.
@millennialtrucker6435 或者说是豆腐做的。
@mdiesel23 @millennialtrucker6435 there is always something to criticize. That's correct, that's the only way to improve. Until the Chinese figure out it out and have their own doctrine and operations. It's only natural. It's rather rare on the world stage to have EMALS and stealth fighter jets. Give them another 5 - 10 years, they'll iron it out. Not sure why people mock China though, the pace of China's progression is rather shocking. They operate on the principal of crawl, walk, and run. They're already at the walking phase in termof Navy modernization, some aspects they're at the run phase, Type 005 destroyers.
@millennialtrucker6435 永远都有批评的空间,这没错,这也是进步的唯一途径。直到中国人摸索透并建立自己的学说和作战体系,这很正常。在世界舞台上同时拥有电磁弹射器(EMALS)和隐身战斗机是非常罕见的。再给他们5到10年,他们会解决所有问题的。我不明白为什么人们要嘲笑中国,中国进步的速度相当令人震惊。他们遵循爬行、行走、奔跑的原则。在海军现代化方面,他们已经处于“行走”阶段,在某些方面(如055型驱逐舰)已经处于“奔跑”阶段。
@kensmith174 They never saw it coming.
他们压根儿没预料到。 @汤圆-y7f
I know, why is "folding wings" even an issue at all for these guys? shouldn't that just take 25 minutes to do since they already have tons of J15 with folded wings?
我就纳闷,为什么“折叠翼”对这帮人来说居然是个问题?既然他们已经有那么多折叠翼的歼-15了,搞定这个不是分分钟的事吗?
@andrewlim7751 The nos of J35 will be dramatically increased with folded wings.
有了折叠翼,歼-35的载机量将大幅增加。
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 The J35 is what the US Navy wanted but couldn't get. The F-35 program is a mash up of next gen jets from all branches of military. In order to accommodate the vertical takeoff fan for the marine variant for example, it had to opt for the single engine. The J35 is actually more like the F-18's next gen upgrade, with twin engines, and better stealth since it's not fat and full of bumps like the F-35.
歼-35是美国海军想要却得不到的。F-35项目是各军种对下一代战机需求的“大杂烩”。例如,为了适配陆战队型号的垂直起降风扇,它不得不选择单发动机。歼-35实际上更像是F-18的下一代升级版,拥有双发动机,而且由于它不像F-35那样臃肿且凹凸不平,隐身性能也更好。
@Skank_and_Gutterboy @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 The F-35 left a lot of capability on the table because the Marines had to have their stupid lift fan.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 F-35牺牲了很多性能潜力,就因为陆战队非要装那个愚蠢的升力风扇。
@ItsJimmei @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 add that F35 still can’t take off from USS Ford, and hence why USS Kennedy getting delayed over and over again.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 再加上F-35现在依然无法从“福特”号上起飞,这就是为什么“肯尼迪”号一再推迟的原因。
@hbc511 @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 very well explained.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 解释得很到位。
@vocvoc9895 The three kids wished J35's wing couldn't be folded, truly childish.
那三个小孩(指博主)居然希望歼-35的机翼不能折叠,真是幼稚。
@lasselahti4056 Heh. All of em uses gunpowders and compasses anyways... :) Copying aka reverse engineering, isnt only Chinese consept tbh. Though reverse engineering, virally, needs that engineer hasnt seen the original blueprints etc so.. ;)
呵呵,反正大家用的都是火药和指南针……说实话,“抄袭”也就是所谓的逆向工程,并非中国独有的概念。不过逆向工程通常需要工程师在没见过原始蓝图的情况下进行,所以…… ;)
@ricardosy5247 Look! The Chinese build cars with four wheels and they turn too, copycats.
看哪!中国人造的车居然有四个轮子而且还能转弯,真是抄袭狗。
@aqsholhaidar2590 As a Chinese, I completely agree with everyone here. Please relax, there is absolutely nothing to see. The J-35 folding its wings means nothing, it’s just a party trick. Our carriers are floating tourist attractions, our catapults are for decoration, and our pilots are clearly just cosplayers doing rehearsals.
作为中国人,我完全同意这里的每一位。请大家放松,这里真的没什么可看的。歼-35折叠机翼毫无意义,不过是个聚会小把戏。我们的航母是漂浮的旅游景点,弹射器是装饰品,飞行员显然只是在排练的角色扮演者(cosplayers)。
China has no real technology. Everything is fake, staged, or borrowed from Hollywood. The jets you see are CGI, the deck crews are actors, and the camera angles are carefully chosen to fool YouTube commenters. In reality, none of this works when the camera is off.
中国没有真技术。一切都是假的、摆拍的,或者是从好莱坞借来的。你看到的战机是CG效果,甲板人员是演员,摄像角度是精挑细选用来糊弄YouTube评论区的。实际上,镜头一关,没一样能转。
The US, on the other hand, is obviously perfect. Always has been. Always will be. At least 30 years ahead, maybe 50, maybe a century. So far ahead that every Chinese prototype needs to be immediately explained, mocked, and emotionally processed in the comments by Americans, just to be safe.
相比之下,美国显然是完美的。过去是,现在是,将来也是。起码领先30年,甚至50年、一个世纪。领先到中国每出一个原型机,美国人都得立刻在评论区进行解释、嘲讽并进行情绪化处理,以策安全。
It’s also very reassuring how something so “behind” requires nonstop attention. New ship? Hundreds of comments. New jet? Emergency analysis. Folded wings? Crisis meeting in the comment section. Truly flattering for a country that supposedly can’t do anything right.
同样令人宽慰的是,这种“落后”的东西居然需要不间断的关注。新船下水?成百上千条评论。新战机?紧急分析。折叠机翼?评论区开危机处理会议。对于一个据称啥也干不好的国家来说,这真是莫大的荣幸。
Anyway, please keep telling us how weak and irrelevant we are. Please keep watching every launch, every deck movement, every rumor. We promise we are harmless, unserious, and definitely not worth losing sleep over. Totally irrelevant. Completely unimportant.
总之,请继续告诉我们,我们是多么弱小和无关紧要。请继续关注每一次下水、每一次甲板调动、每一个传闻。我们保证我们人畜无害,不足挂齿,绝对不值得各位失眠。完全不相干。一点都不重要。
@b-mooi no worry the west will always be bias on China, Russia, North Korea, iran and many more and yeah yeah USA is the best, 5000 years ahead of everybody, king of the world, the ultimate gangster, the chosen one, superior, uniek, never copy always original, so that said keep laughing and we all know the one that are silent they are the dangerous one
别担心,西方对中国、俄罗斯、朝鲜、伊朗等国永远存有偏见。没错,美国世界第一,领先所有人5000年,世界之王,终极恶霸,天选之子,卓越非凡,永不抄袭,全是原创。所以,请继续嘲笑吧,我们都知道沉默的人才是最危险的。
@Aendavenau @b-mooi Well Russia, North Korea and Iran are kind of shit. Especially Russia has really surprised with how patethic it is. China.... China is scary. Its also on the other side of the world from Europe and our biggest trading partner... and they dont seem as incompetently insane as the US so there is that. Still scary though.
@b-mooi 俄罗斯、朝鲜和伊朗确实挺差劲的。尤其是俄罗斯表现出来的无力感真让人惊讶。但中国……中国很可怕。它远在欧洲的另一端,又是我们最大的贸易伙伴……而且他们看起来不像美国那样疯狂且无能。但这依然令人畏惧。
@TracyHu-e8v9d @Aendavenau North Korea's weapon is no joke. Check out their millitary parade last year.
@Aendavenau 朝鲜的武器可不是开玩笑的。看看他们去年的阅兵。
@ysf-d9i @Aendavenau Russia is doing well. They've really upped their manufacturing game since the war with ukraine started. Europe on the other hand... totally incompetent. There are still lots of super geniuses in the US, the problem is the US is about to have a civil war. Frankly I don't think China has any ambitions of fighting the US or even becoming the global no.1, but I think the US is gonna destroy itself internally because of the woke mind virus.
@Aendavenau 俄罗斯干得不错。自俄乌冲突开始后,他们确实提升了制造业水平。反观欧洲……完全是无能。美国虽然仍有很多超级天才,但问题是美国即将爆发内战。坦白说,我不认为中国有挑战美国或争夺世界第一的野心,但我觉得美国会被那种“觉醒文化”(woke)病毒从内部瓦解。
@lisakiwong5675 @Aendavenau HMMmm,what
@Aendavenau 嗯……啥?
@amenboughanmi5819 When the those sorrowful souls watch the commissioning of the Type 004 100.000t displacement necluar molten salt reactor with 4 DC catapult lunching both the J35 and the 6th gen J50 they may have a stroke
当这帮悲哀的家伙看到004型10万吨级核动力熔盐反应堆航母服役,带着4条直流弹射轨道起飞歼-35和第六代歼-50时,他们可能会中风。
@haoplus-en7if Can’t agree more. Our Chinese have a long way to go to catch up with you~~Nothing to worry about and sleep well, my American friends~~~~
不能同意更多。我们中国人要追上你们还有很长的路要走~~ 没啥好担心的,美国朋友们,安稳地睡觉去吧~~~~
@ygloves112 Thats true, I just borrow my friends phone to play for an hour, we Chinese are poor as hll
是真的,我就是借我朋友的手机玩一个小时,我们中国人穷得要命。
@CCGNZ65 I'm American,I'm pragmatic,and I respect your nation/culture,I hear what you say as ignorance/arrogance are prominent here. All one has to do is look at your cities to know YOU are a advanced nation and are made up of earnest,hard working people.
我是美国人,我很务实,我也尊重你们的国家和文化。我知道那些偏见和傲慢在这里(美国)很普遍。但只要看看你们的城市就知道,你们是一个先进的国家,由勤奋踏实的人民组成。
@PeypaMikko-1842 From "J-35 can't fold her wings" to "Oh, so she can fold her wings, well... let's talk about the catapults, shall we ?". Good show!
话题从“歼-35不能折叠翼”转变成了“噢,它居然能折叠翼,那咱们来聊聊弹射器吧?”。好戏一场!
@lightjunction7373 Let’s talk about uniform colors. China copied it from US.
咱们来聊聊制服颜色吧。中国肯定是抄美国的。
@henrykum-nr7bw @lightjunction7373 China copied this from the US. Besides the copied uniform colors, the placement of the engine exhaust nozzles at the rear is also copied. Please share this widely, ten times a day; the US propaganda department will reward you.
@lightjunction7373 中国确实抄了美国。除了制服颜色,发动机喷嘴装在机身正后方也是抄的。请广泛传播,一天发十遍,美国宣传部门会奖励你的。
@KH-nk8ry @lightjunction7373 I’m pretty all armies have a handshake agreement that their Military looks alike so that every country should be able to distinguish between soldiers/Military guys and civilians.
@lightjunction7373 我觉得全世界军队都有个默契,就是让军人看起来都差不多,这样各国都能区分军人和平民。
@Mo-fu9sm The catapult is literally next gen DC EMALS; something the US wish they had; still relying on steam for their catpults. Reason it's odd cos they were going for steam catapult but had a breakthrough in DC EMALS and decided to switch on the go from steam to DC for superior performance and fullish load takeoff.
这个弹射器实际上是下一代直流电磁弹射(DC EMALS);这正是美国想要而不得的,他们还在依靠蒸汽弹射。之所以(福建舰)进度看起来有点奇怪,是因为他们原本打算用蒸汽弹射,但在直流电磁弹射上取得了突破,于是决定直接切换到直流系统,以获得卓越性能和满载起飞能力。
@hresvelgr401 @Mo-fu9sm The US isn't still relying on steam for their catapults. All carriers from CVN-78 use electromagnetic catapults and CVN-78 has been in service for nearly a decade and has already seen combat.
@Mo-fu9sm 美国已经不只靠蒸汽弹射了。从CVN-78(福特号)开始的航母都使用电磁弹射,福特号已经服役近十年并参与过实战。
@patrickweaver1105 The real question is can they make their DC EMALS work because their launch rate is abysmal. The Fujian just came out of the yards again but they don't appear to have done any work on the catapults.
真正的问题是,他们能否让直流电磁弹射正常工作,因为目前的出动率极低。福建舰刚从船厂出来,但看起来并没有在弹射器上做多少工作。
@lcoudeur You can't fit anything on a carrier if the wings do not fold. Rafale says Hold my bottle of Bordeaux.
如果机翼不能折叠,航母上啥都停不下。“阵风”战斗机(Rafale)表示:拿稳我的波尔多红酒(看我操作)。
@chromesucks5299 Thats fair but their is a size difference between them
话虽如此,但它们(阵风和歼-35)的尺寸有差异。
@NCM-xy8ow Rafales are old planes attempting hard to stay relevant.
“阵风”是老旧飞机,正费力地想证明自己还没过时。
@cx3929 The same 4.5 gen Rafales that were shot down by J-10C Chinese 4 gen planes.
说的就是那个被中国四代机歼-10C“击落”的4.5代“阵风”吗?
@Axel-t1q9 Rafale is embarrassing
“阵风”真让人尴尬。
@deepseer It seems you all overlooked a photo of the J-35 with its wings folded before analyzing the video of the Fujian launching J-35s. That photo had already circulated online in China, but it seems that few people outside of China have ever noticed it.
看来在分析福建舰弹射歼-35的视频之前,你们都忽略了歼-35折叠机翼的照片。那张照片早就在中国互联网上传开了,但似乎国外没几个人注意到。
@eyeung129 It's stupid to think that they can't make a wing fold J35 when they already have wing fold J15. lol...
既然都已经有折叠翼的歼-15了,还觉得他们造不出折叠翼歼-35,这种想法真蠢。呵呵……
@chenmiss1501 The technical requirements for folding wings on stealth fighters are higher than those on non-stealth fighters, as the treatment of folding positions may affect stealth performance.
隐身战机折叠机翼的技术要求比非隐身机更高,因为折叠位置的处理可能会影响隐身性能。
@Rst7971 @chenmiss1501 Why do you think this whole video had the vibe of a funeral? It's because not even the creators believe that the Chinese engineers missed such an obvious flaw. Is it possible? Yes. But it's highly unlikely. This is why we were treated to the spectacle of grown men nitpicking about the colour of the uniforms and deck painting and the ugly looks of a certain plane. If looks had any bearing on whether a war could be won. The USA wouldn't have lost to pyjamas/robes flip flop wearing enemies (Vietnam & Afghanistan). Let's be honest there's nothing pretty about an IED or an AK 47.
@chenmiss1501 你觉得为什么整个视频有种葬礼般的气氛?因为连视频制作者自己都不相信中国工程师会漏掉这么明显的缺陷。可能吗?可能,但极度罕见。这就是为什么我们看到这几个大男人在那里纠结制服颜色、甲板涂装和某架飞机的丑相。如果外表能决定战争胜负,美国就不会输给那些穿睡袍和拖鞋的敌人(越南和阿富汗)。老实说,路边炸弹和AK-47可一点都不美。
@orlock20 Folded wings decrease the G-force rating. The F-18 is rated for 7G. I wonder what the real G-limit is for the Chinese aircraft. I guess we will know when they start snapping off wings.
折叠翼会降低过载(G力)上限。F-18的额定过载是7G。我好奇中国飞机的真实过载极限是多少。我想当他们的机翼开始断裂时,我们就知道了。
@ex0duzz @orlock20 why, did F-18's wings start snapping off after it was commissioned? there's a thing called testing before being commissioned. maybe usa does not understand this simple concept, although i doubt it. its probably just you.
@orlock20 咋的,F-18服役后机翼开始断裂了吗?服役前有个流程叫“测试”。也许美国不理解这个简单的概念,但我看大概率只是你不理解。
@Rst7971 @orlock20 You obviously new here. Folding wings mean a carrier can carry more planes since they take up less space. And this channel used to make fun of the J35 because apparently it's wings didn't fold, that's why they sound so sad/confused in the video. The guys were now desperately looking for something to criticise for talking about uniform colours etc
@orlock20 你显然是新来的。机翼折叠意味着航母能装载更多飞机,因为占地小。这个频道以前总是嘲笑歼-35不能折叠机翼,这就是为什么他们在视频里听起来那么沮丧和困惑。这帮人现在拼命想找东西来黑,甚至都开始聊制服颜色了。
@matthewnewnham-runner-writer It's a complicated business. It sure looks like it to me, being a former F-111 jockey.
这是一门复杂的学问。作为一名前F-111飞行员,在我看来确实如此。
@HistMirror It's tradition that Chinese military units use photos or videos to send greetings to Chinese people for Chinese New Year. They used to use old planes and tanks to prompt China govs to spend more on military. They don't need to do that anymore. Now all the new stuff in photo
中国军队有在新春佳节发布照片或视频向民众致意的传统。以前他们总是展示老旧飞机坦克来促使政府增加军费,现在不需要了,照片里全是新装备。
@CosmicEntity-pp2ok the J-35A is the air force version and this is just the J-35 (naval version)
歼-35A是空军版,这个(折叠翼的)只是歼-35(海军版)。 @不可不解
The "Dogfight Three" are back together again. They seem to have discovered a new secret: the J-35's wings can actually be folded, which is completely beyond their imagination.
“狗斗三兄弟”又聚首了,他们好像发现了一个新的秘密-------J35的机翼原来是可以折叠的,完全超出他们的想像 @鱼窝拜森
In the upper right corner of this new photo, the J-35s with folded wings that can be seen are the two J-35 prototypes in the promotional video of ejection takeoff that you saw in September last year. Those two light gray J-35s, their side numbers are 3505 and 3506 respectively. The dark-colored J-35 in this new picture is the actual mass-produced J-35. Its surface has been covered with a new generation of stealth skin and paint. The same is true for the newly produced J-20 improved J-20A and two-seat J-20S.
在这张新照片的右上角,可以看到折叠机翼的歼-35,它们就是你们去年9月在弹射起飞宣传片里看到的那两架歼-35原型机。那两架浅灰色歼-35的机身编号分别是3505和3506。照片里那架深色的歼-35才是真正的量产型歼-35,表面已经覆盖了新一代隐身蒙皮和涂料。新生产的歼-20改进型歼-20A和双座版歼-20S也是如此。
It can be seen from the dark skin that the wombat really loves his E-2. He has been teasing the big nose of the KJ-600 and thinks the big nose is ugly. What I want to say is that I understand his love for the E-2, but don’t judge a book by its appearance. The reason why the nose of the KJ-600 is larger is because its nose space is larger than that of the E-2D. The nose of the KJ-600 is 0.6 meters wider than the nose of the E-2D, and a larger weather radar is packed in./ In addition to the navigation radar... (skipped for brevity)
从深色蒙皮可以看出来,那个“袋熊(Wombat,博主外号)”是真的很爱他的E-2。他一直在拿空警-600的大鼻子开玩笑,觉得很难看。我想说,我理解他对E-2的感情,但人不可貌相。空警-600的鼻子大是因为它的机头空间比E-2D更大。它的机头比E-2D宽了0.6米,塞进了一台更大的气象雷达以及导航雷达。
the KJ-600 is equipped with an S-band + UHF dual-band gallium nitride phased array radar. This is the world's first shipborne early warning aircraft using dual-band radar. Public information shows that the latest E-2D radar is a gallium arsenide phased array radar, so from a technical level on paper, the KJ-600 The radar is half a generation ahead of the E-2D. Of course, whether the actual operating performance of the KJ-600 is really comparable to the E-2D depends not only on the paper data difference in the single hardware of the radar, but also on the performance of the radar-related back-end equipment and software systems. In these aspects, the United States has always been in a leading position.
空警-600配备了S波段+UHF双波段氮化镓相控阵雷达。这是世界上第一款使用双波段雷达的舰载预警机。公开资料显示,最新的E-2D雷达是砷化镓相控阵雷达,所以从纸面技术层面看,空警-600的雷达领先E-2D半代。当然,实际性能是否真能媲美E-2D,不仅取决于雷达硬件,还取决于后端设备和软件系统,而在这些方面,美国一直处于领先地位。 @鱼窝拜森
In addition, MOVER, there is an error in the title of your video. The Fujian uses J-35, not J-35A. There are currently three models of J-35. The J-35 is a carrier-based model and is exclusively used by the Chinese Navy. They are equipped for use on aircraft carriers. The J-35A is exclusively used by the Chinese Air Force. It has a lighter body structure and smaller wing area and cannot be used on aircraft carriers. In addition to the J-35 and J-35A, there is also the J-35E, which is a foreign trade version. The airfrx is the same as the Air Force’s J-35A, but the avionics and weapon systems are slightly different.
另外,MOVER,你视频标题有个错误。福建舰用的是歼-35,不是歼-35A。目前歼-35有三种型号:歼-35是舰载型,专供中国海军航母使用;歼-35A专供中国空军使用,由于机身结构更轻且翼展面积更小,无法在航母上使用;此外还有歼-35E,是出口贸易版,机身与空军型一致,但航电和武器系统略有不同。
@AbdulPAK Make sure what you wish for! You know, as they say. Anyway, you were saying that you haven't seen one with the folded wings. Well, here's the J-35 with folded wings for you, sir!
别乱许愿,如你所愿了!既然你刚才说还没见过折叠翼的,那瞧好了,先生,这就是你要的折叠翼歼-35!
@btkt6464 Dog fights, lets do dog fightshand-pink-waving
狗斗(近距离格斗),咱们来场狗斗吧!
@yours_sincerely48 Those WW2 move? Come On nowadays BVR warfare lile J10C with PL15 against Rafale. Remember Indiana Jones movie? The Bad guy was doing the Sword movement while Jones draw the gunn and took him down with a single shot. Just imagine J35 with PL 15 against F18 & F35..
还要玩二战那一套吗?拜托,现在是超视距(BVR)作战时代,就像歼-10C挂着霹雳-15打“阵风”。记得《夺宝奇兵》吗?坏人在那里耍大刀,而印第安纳·琼斯直接拔枪一枪干掉。想象一下挂着霹雳-15的歼-35对阵F-18和F-35的情况吧……
@kmwong1786 It's like watching the muppet show with Statler, Waldorf and Kermit roasting everything.
就像在看《布偶秀》,然后斯泰特勒、华尔道夫和科米特在各种吐槽。
@watarota Yeah roasting the jet for having too many radars while F35s been shipping with weights in place of radars. smh
是啊,他们嘲笑这飞机雷达太多,而F-35交付时居然用配重块代替雷达。无语。
@PeteVA-212 Guys, great segment. As an OLD A-4 carrier pilot, it had me laughing throughout the whole discussion. One nit, the A-4 Skyhawk did not have folding wings by design, and worked just fine on small deck carriers, reducing deck loading and maintenance issues. A departure from WWII Naval aircraft designs by Heinemann and his Douglas Aircraft team. Hook '26?
伙计们,这期很棒。作为一名前A-4舰载机飞行员,整个讨论让我笑个不停。纠正一点,A-4“天鹰”战机设计时就没有折叠翼,它在小甲板航母上运行良好,减少了甲板载荷和维护问题。这是海涅曼和道格拉斯团队对二战舰载机设计的突破。26年钩住拦阻索?
@TheWiseOne137 What happened to the kidnapped Venezuela president?
那个被绑架的委内瑞拉总统后来怎么了?
@jeffhager7787 Dorsal radar….that would be the one on the top…not in the nose.
背部雷达……那应该是装在顶部的,而不是机头。
@GirlBoyLacroix when it says dorsal its talking about the radome on the back being AESA. dorsal like a dorsal fin. dont see any info on the nose cone but it surely is another radar
提到“dorsal(背部)”时,指的是背上的AESA(有源相控阵雷达)雷达罩,就像鱼的背鳍一样。虽然没看到关于机头雷达罩的信息,但那里肯定还有另一个雷达。
@SVD762-lp9en Is this the start of the US century of humiliation?
这难道是“美国百年国耻”的开端吗?
@larryc1616 Millennium
是“千年国耻”。 @未央笑笑生
Then this is the start of world peace
那么这就是世界和平的开端。
@ex0duzz it started long ago but not because of China but USA humilating themselves lol. India is also in the race and probably leading currently on who can embarass and humilate themselves more globally.
早就开始了,但不是因为中国,而是美国自找的,哈哈。印度也在竞争行列,而且目前在“谁能让自己在国际上更丢脸”的比赛中可能处于领先地位。
@mdiesel23 @ex0duzz India is leading the race. India is the most advanced and developed country on the planet if we're using social media comments as the metric.
@ex0duzz 印度绝对遥遥领先。 如果按社交媒体评论作为衡量标准,印度已经是地球上最先进、最发达的国家了。
@Team6OWG Really started since 2001 at the very least. 20 Year war, $2T wasted, 2 decades lost. We never really recovered since 2008. Now were about to start another major war. Yeah its not going off to a good start for the US Century of Humiliation.
起码从2001年就开始了。20年战争,浪费了2万亿美元,失去了20年。自2008年以来我们从未真正恢复。现在我们又要卷入另一场大战。是的,这对所谓的“美国百年国耻”来说,开局可不太妙。
@PremiumMembers-o2n The current situation isn't what worries the US the most; it's the speed of development. Military strength comes down to industrial and technological capabilities. China's industrial capabilities far surpass the combined total of the G7 countries. Technological capabilities, frankly, come down to talent and energy, in which China also far surpasses other countries. So, technological superiority will eventually follow. It's like China is sprinting while other countries are jogging or standing still. China will quickly catch up with and surpass the US. Five years from now, ten years from now, I can imagine this channel's content will be very interesting. I hope this channel gets better and better, and that everyone can witness history together.
现状并不是最让美国担心的,担心的是发展速度。军事实力归根结底取决于工业和技术能力。中国的工业能力远远超过了G7国家的总和。坦白说,技术能力取决于人才和精力,在这些方面中国也远超他国。因此,技术优势终将到来。这就像中国在冲刺,而其他国家在慢跑或原地踏步。中国会迅速追上并超越美国。五年后、十年后,我可以想象这个频道的内容会非常精彩。希望频道越办越好,大家一起见证历史。
@troymash8109 Over a century of carrier ops against Temu. Stop smoking your farts.
用一百年的航母作战经验去对付“拼多多(Temu)版”装备。别再在那儿自我感觉良好了(直译为:别再闻你自己放的屁了)。
看到歼-35能折叠机翼,这几个人看起来挺难过的。
@Marijuanak That moment of silence... trying to think of something to criticize
那一刻的沉默……他们正努力想词儿来挑刺呢。
@Dutchthink28nmisAdvanced @Marijuanak yup the USA is lucky China ain't warmongers. And the most likely scenario is the USA will come up against an export version of the Chinese jets and missiles in a conflict with a developing country.
@Marijuanak 是的,美国应该庆幸中国不是好战分子。最可能发生的情况是,美国在与某个发展中国家的冲突中,遇上中国战机和导弹的出口版本。
@millennialtrucker6435 @Marijuanak it’s Chinese, there is ALWAYS something to criticise Temu carriers, Temu aircraft
@Marijuanak 既然是中国货,那永远都有挑刺的空间。 拼多多(Temu)版航母,拼多多版飞机。
@PhiloSurfer @millennialtrucker6435 Or made of tofu.
@millennialtrucker6435 或者说是豆腐做的。
@mdiesel23 @millennialtrucker6435 there is always something to criticize. That's correct, that's the only way to improve. Until the Chinese figure out it out and have their own doctrine and operations. It's only natural. It's rather rare on the world stage to have EMALS and stealth fighter jets. Give them another 5 - 10 years, they'll iron it out. Not sure why people mock China though, the pace of China's progression is rather shocking. They operate on the principal of crawl, walk, and run. They're already at the walking phase in termof Navy modernization, some aspects they're at the run phase, Type 005 destroyers.
@millennialtrucker6435 永远都有批评的空间,这没错,这也是进步的唯一途径。直到中国人摸索透并建立自己的学说和作战体系,这很正常。在世界舞台上同时拥有电磁弹射器(EMALS)和隐身战斗机是非常罕见的。再给他们5到10年,他们会解决所有问题的。我不明白为什么人们要嘲笑中国,中国进步的速度相当令人震惊。他们遵循爬行、行走、奔跑的原则。在海军现代化方面,他们已经处于“行走”阶段,在某些方面(如055型驱逐舰)已经处于“奔跑”阶段。
@kensmith174 They never saw it coming.
他们压根儿没预料到。 @汤圆-y7f
I know, why is "folding wings" even an issue at all for these guys? shouldn't that just take 25 minutes to do since they already have tons of J15 with folded wings?
我就纳闷,为什么“折叠翼”对这帮人来说居然是个问题?既然他们已经有那么多折叠翼的歼-15了,搞定这个不是分分钟的事吗?
@andrewlim7751 The nos of J35 will be dramatically increased with folded wings.
有了折叠翼,歼-35的载机量将大幅增加。
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 The J35 is what the US Navy wanted but couldn't get. The F-35 program is a mash up of next gen jets from all branches of military. In order to accommodate the vertical takeoff fan for the marine variant for example, it had to opt for the single engine. The J35 is actually more like the F-18's next gen upgrade, with twin engines, and better stealth since it's not fat and full of bumps like the F-35.
歼-35是美国海军想要却得不到的。F-35项目是各军种对下一代战机需求的“大杂烩”。例如,为了适配陆战队型号的垂直起降风扇,它不得不选择单发动机。歼-35实际上更像是F-18的下一代升级版,拥有双发动机,而且由于它不像F-35那样臃肿且凹凸不平,隐身性能也更好。
@Skank_and_Gutterboy @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 The F-35 left a lot of capability on the table because the Marines had to have their stupid lift fan.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 F-35牺牲了很多性能潜力,就因为陆战队非要装那个愚蠢的升力风扇。
@ItsJimmei @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 add that F35 still can’t take off from USS Ford, and hence why USS Kennedy getting delayed over and over again.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 再加上F-35现在依然无法从“福特”号上起飞,这就是为什么“肯尼迪”号一再推迟的原因。
@hbc511 @tyrannosauruswrecks5904 very well explained.
@tyrannosauruswrecks5904 解释得很到位。
@vocvoc9895 The three kids wished J35's wing couldn't be folded, truly childish.
那三个小孩(指博主)居然希望歼-35的机翼不能折叠,真是幼稚。
@lasselahti4056 Heh. All of em uses gunpowders and compasses anyways... :) Copying aka reverse engineering, isnt only Chinese consept tbh. Though reverse engineering, virally, needs that engineer hasnt seen the original blueprints etc so.. ;)
呵呵,反正大家用的都是火药和指南针……说实话,“抄袭”也就是所谓的逆向工程,并非中国独有的概念。不过逆向工程通常需要工程师在没见过原始蓝图的情况下进行,所以…… ;)
@ricardosy5247 Look! The Chinese build cars with four wheels and they turn too, copycats.
看哪!中国人造的车居然有四个轮子而且还能转弯,真是抄袭狗。
@aqsholhaidar2590 As a Chinese, I completely agree with everyone here. Please relax, there is absolutely nothing to see. The J-35 folding its wings means nothing, it’s just a party trick. Our carriers are floating tourist attractions, our catapults are for decoration, and our pilots are clearly just cosplayers doing rehearsals.
作为中国人,我完全同意这里的每一位。请大家放松,这里真的没什么可看的。歼-35折叠机翼毫无意义,不过是个聚会小把戏。我们的航母是漂浮的旅游景点,弹射器是装饰品,飞行员显然只是在排练的角色扮演者(cosplayers)。
China has no real technology. Everything is fake, staged, or borrowed from Hollywood. The jets you see are CGI, the deck crews are actors, and the camera angles are carefully chosen to fool YouTube commenters. In reality, none of this works when the camera is off.
中国没有真技术。一切都是假的、摆拍的,或者是从好莱坞借来的。你看到的战机是CG效果,甲板人员是演员,摄像角度是精挑细选用来糊弄YouTube评论区的。实际上,镜头一关,没一样能转。
The US, on the other hand, is obviously perfect. Always has been. Always will be. At least 30 years ahead, maybe 50, maybe a century. So far ahead that every Chinese prototype needs to be immediately explained, mocked, and emotionally processed in the comments by Americans, just to be safe.
相比之下,美国显然是完美的。过去是,现在是,将来也是。起码领先30年,甚至50年、一个世纪。领先到中国每出一个原型机,美国人都得立刻在评论区进行解释、嘲讽并进行情绪化处理,以策安全。
It’s also very reassuring how something so “behind” requires nonstop attention. New ship? Hundreds of comments. New jet? Emergency analysis. Folded wings? Crisis meeting in the comment section. Truly flattering for a country that supposedly can’t do anything right.
同样令人宽慰的是,这种“落后”的东西居然需要不间断的关注。新船下水?成百上千条评论。新战机?紧急分析。折叠机翼?评论区开危机处理会议。对于一个据称啥也干不好的国家来说,这真是莫大的荣幸。
Anyway, please keep telling us how weak and irrelevant we are. Please keep watching every launch, every deck movement, every rumor. We promise we are harmless, unserious, and definitely not worth losing sleep over. Totally irrelevant. Completely unimportant.
总之,请继续告诉我们,我们是多么弱小和无关紧要。请继续关注每一次下水、每一次甲板调动、每一个传闻。我们保证我们人畜无害,不足挂齿,绝对不值得各位失眠。完全不相干。一点都不重要。
@b-mooi no worry the west will always be bias on China, Russia, North Korea, iran and many more and yeah yeah USA is the best, 5000 years ahead of everybody, king of the world, the ultimate gangster, the chosen one, superior, uniek, never copy always original, so that said keep laughing and we all know the one that are silent they are the dangerous one
别担心,西方对中国、俄罗斯、朝鲜、伊朗等国永远存有偏见。没错,美国世界第一,领先所有人5000年,世界之王,终极恶霸,天选之子,卓越非凡,永不抄袭,全是原创。所以,请继续嘲笑吧,我们都知道沉默的人才是最危险的。
@Aendavenau @b-mooi Well Russia, North Korea and Iran are kind of shit. Especially Russia has really surprised with how patethic it is. China.... China is scary. Its also on the other side of the world from Europe and our biggest trading partner... and they dont seem as incompetently insane as the US so there is that. Still scary though.
@b-mooi 俄罗斯、朝鲜和伊朗确实挺差劲的。尤其是俄罗斯表现出来的无力感真让人惊讶。但中国……中国很可怕。它远在欧洲的另一端,又是我们最大的贸易伙伴……而且他们看起来不像美国那样疯狂且无能。但这依然令人畏惧。
@TracyHu-e8v9d @Aendavenau North Korea's weapon is no joke. Check out their millitary parade last year.
@Aendavenau 朝鲜的武器可不是开玩笑的。看看他们去年的阅兵。
@ysf-d9i @Aendavenau Russia is doing well. They've really upped their manufacturing game since the war with ukraine started. Europe on the other hand... totally incompetent. There are still lots of super geniuses in the US, the problem is the US is about to have a civil war. Frankly I don't think China has any ambitions of fighting the US or even becoming the global no.1, but I think the US is gonna destroy itself internally because of the woke mind virus.
@Aendavenau 俄罗斯干得不错。自俄乌冲突开始后,他们确实提升了制造业水平。反观欧洲……完全是无能。美国虽然仍有很多超级天才,但问题是美国即将爆发内战。坦白说,我不认为中国有挑战美国或争夺世界第一的野心,但我觉得美国会被那种“觉醒文化”(woke)病毒从内部瓦解。
@lisakiwong5675 @Aendavenau HMMmm,what
@Aendavenau 嗯……啥?
@amenboughanmi5819 When the those sorrowful souls watch the commissioning of the Type 004 100.000t displacement necluar molten salt reactor with 4 DC catapult lunching both the J35 and the 6th gen J50 they may have a stroke
当这帮悲哀的家伙看到004型10万吨级核动力熔盐反应堆航母服役,带着4条直流弹射轨道起飞歼-35和第六代歼-50时,他们可能会中风。
@haoplus-en7if Can’t agree more. Our Chinese have a long way to go to catch up with you~~Nothing to worry about and sleep well, my American friends~~~~
不能同意更多。我们中国人要追上你们还有很长的路要走~~ 没啥好担心的,美国朋友们,安稳地睡觉去吧~~~~
@ygloves112 Thats true, I just borrow my friends phone to play for an hour, we Chinese are poor as hll
是真的,我就是借我朋友的手机玩一个小时,我们中国人穷得要命。
@CCGNZ65 I'm American,I'm pragmatic,and I respect your nation/culture,I hear what you say as ignorance/arrogance are prominent here. All one has to do is look at your cities to know YOU are a advanced nation and are made up of earnest,hard working people.
我是美国人,我很务实,我也尊重你们的国家和文化。我知道那些偏见和傲慢在这里(美国)很普遍。但只要看看你们的城市就知道,你们是一个先进的国家,由勤奋踏实的人民组成。
@PeypaMikko-1842 From "J-35 can't fold her wings" to "Oh, so she can fold her wings, well... let's talk about the catapults, shall we ?". Good show!
话题从“歼-35不能折叠翼”转变成了“噢,它居然能折叠翼,那咱们来聊聊弹射器吧?”。好戏一场!
@lightjunction7373 Let’s talk about uniform colors. China copied it from US.
咱们来聊聊制服颜色吧。中国肯定是抄美国的。
@henrykum-nr7bw @lightjunction7373 China copied this from the US. Besides the copied uniform colors, the placement of the engine exhaust nozzles at the rear is also copied. Please share this widely, ten times a day; the US propaganda department will reward you.
@lightjunction7373 中国确实抄了美国。除了制服颜色,发动机喷嘴装在机身正后方也是抄的。请广泛传播,一天发十遍,美国宣传部门会奖励你的。
@KH-nk8ry @lightjunction7373 I’m pretty all armies have a handshake agreement that their Military looks alike so that every country should be able to distinguish between soldiers/Military guys and civilians.
@lightjunction7373 我觉得全世界军队都有个默契,就是让军人看起来都差不多,这样各国都能区分军人和平民。
@Mo-fu9sm The catapult is literally next gen DC EMALS; something the US wish they had; still relying on steam for their catpults. Reason it's odd cos they were going for steam catapult but had a breakthrough in DC EMALS and decided to switch on the go from steam to DC for superior performance and fullish load takeoff.
这个弹射器实际上是下一代直流电磁弹射(DC EMALS);这正是美国想要而不得的,他们还在依靠蒸汽弹射。之所以(福建舰)进度看起来有点奇怪,是因为他们原本打算用蒸汽弹射,但在直流电磁弹射上取得了突破,于是决定直接切换到直流系统,以获得卓越性能和满载起飞能力。
@hresvelgr401 @Mo-fu9sm The US isn't still relying on steam for their catapults. All carriers from CVN-78 use electromagnetic catapults and CVN-78 has been in service for nearly a decade and has already seen combat.
@Mo-fu9sm 美国已经不只靠蒸汽弹射了。从CVN-78(福特号)开始的航母都使用电磁弹射,福特号已经服役近十年并参与过实战。
@patrickweaver1105 The real question is can they make their DC EMALS work because their launch rate is abysmal. The Fujian just came out of the yards again but they don't appear to have done any work on the catapults.
真正的问题是,他们能否让直流电磁弹射正常工作,因为目前的出动率极低。福建舰刚从船厂出来,但看起来并没有在弹射器上做多少工作。
@lcoudeur You can't fit anything on a carrier if the wings do not fold. Rafale says Hold my bottle of Bordeaux.
如果机翼不能折叠,航母上啥都停不下。“阵风”战斗机(Rafale)表示:拿稳我的波尔多红酒(看我操作)。
@chromesucks5299 Thats fair but their is a size difference between them
话虽如此,但它们(阵风和歼-35)的尺寸有差异。
@NCM-xy8ow Rafales are old planes attempting hard to stay relevant.
“阵风”是老旧飞机,正费力地想证明自己还没过时。
@cx3929 The same 4.5 gen Rafales that were shot down by J-10C Chinese 4 gen planes.
说的就是那个被中国四代机歼-10C“击落”的4.5代“阵风”吗?
@Axel-t1q9 Rafale is embarrassing
“阵风”真让人尴尬。
@deepseer It seems you all overlooked a photo of the J-35 with its wings folded before analyzing the video of the Fujian launching J-35s. That photo had already circulated online in China, but it seems that few people outside of China have ever noticed it.
看来在分析福建舰弹射歼-35的视频之前,你们都忽略了歼-35折叠机翼的照片。那张照片早就在中国互联网上传开了,但似乎国外没几个人注意到。
@eyeung129 It's stupid to think that they can't make a wing fold J35 when they already have wing fold J15. lol...
既然都已经有折叠翼的歼-15了,还觉得他们造不出折叠翼歼-35,这种想法真蠢。呵呵……
@chenmiss1501 The technical requirements for folding wings on stealth fighters are higher than those on non-stealth fighters, as the treatment of folding positions may affect stealth performance.
隐身战机折叠机翼的技术要求比非隐身机更高,因为折叠位置的处理可能会影响隐身性能。
@Rst7971 @chenmiss1501 Why do you think this whole video had the vibe of a funeral? It's because not even the creators believe that the Chinese engineers missed such an obvious flaw. Is it possible? Yes. But it's highly unlikely. This is why we were treated to the spectacle of grown men nitpicking about the colour of the uniforms and deck painting and the ugly looks of a certain plane. If looks had any bearing on whether a war could be won. The USA wouldn't have lost to pyjamas/robes flip flop wearing enemies (Vietnam & Afghanistan). Let's be honest there's nothing pretty about an IED or an AK 47.
@chenmiss1501 你觉得为什么整个视频有种葬礼般的气氛?因为连视频制作者自己都不相信中国工程师会漏掉这么明显的缺陷。可能吗?可能,但极度罕见。这就是为什么我们看到这几个大男人在那里纠结制服颜色、甲板涂装和某架飞机的丑相。如果外表能决定战争胜负,美国就不会输给那些穿睡袍和拖鞋的敌人(越南和阿富汗)。老实说,路边炸弹和AK-47可一点都不美。
@orlock20 Folded wings decrease the G-force rating. The F-18 is rated for 7G. I wonder what the real G-limit is for the Chinese aircraft. I guess we will know when they start snapping off wings.
折叠翼会降低过载(G力)上限。F-18的额定过载是7G。我好奇中国飞机的真实过载极限是多少。我想当他们的机翼开始断裂时,我们就知道了。
@ex0duzz @orlock20 why, did F-18's wings start snapping off after it was commissioned? there's a thing called testing before being commissioned. maybe usa does not understand this simple concept, although i doubt it. its probably just you.
@orlock20 咋的,F-18服役后机翼开始断裂了吗?服役前有个流程叫“测试”。也许美国不理解这个简单的概念,但我看大概率只是你不理解。
@Rst7971 @orlock20 You obviously new here. Folding wings mean a carrier can carry more planes since they take up less space. And this channel used to make fun of the J35 because apparently it's wings didn't fold, that's why they sound so sad/confused in the video. The guys were now desperately looking for something to criticise for talking about uniform colours etc
@orlock20 你显然是新来的。机翼折叠意味着航母能装载更多飞机,因为占地小。这个频道以前总是嘲笑歼-35不能折叠机翼,这就是为什么他们在视频里听起来那么沮丧和困惑。这帮人现在拼命想找东西来黑,甚至都开始聊制服颜色了。
@matthewnewnham-runner-writer It's a complicated business. It sure looks like it to me, being a former F-111 jockey.
这是一门复杂的学问。作为一名前F-111飞行员,在我看来确实如此。
@HistMirror It's tradition that Chinese military units use photos or videos to send greetings to Chinese people for Chinese New Year. They used to use old planes and tanks to prompt China govs to spend more on military. They don't need to do that anymore. Now all the new stuff in photo
中国军队有在新春佳节发布照片或视频向民众致意的传统。以前他们总是展示老旧飞机坦克来促使政府增加军费,现在不需要了,照片里全是新装备。
@CosmicEntity-pp2ok the J-35A is the air force version and this is just the J-35 (naval version)
歼-35A是空军版,这个(折叠翼的)只是歼-35(海军版)。 @不可不解
The "Dogfight Three" are back together again. They seem to have discovered a new secret: the J-35's wings can actually be folded, which is completely beyond their imagination.
“狗斗三兄弟”又聚首了,他们好像发现了一个新的秘密-------J35的机翼原来是可以折叠的,完全超出他们的想像 @鱼窝拜森
In the upper right corner of this new photo, the J-35s with folded wings that can be seen are the two J-35 prototypes in the promotional video of ejection takeoff that you saw in September last year. Those two light gray J-35s, their side numbers are 3505 and 3506 respectively. The dark-colored J-35 in this new picture is the actual mass-produced J-35. Its surface has been covered with a new generation of stealth skin and paint. The same is true for the newly produced J-20 improved J-20A and two-seat J-20S.
在这张新照片的右上角,可以看到折叠机翼的歼-35,它们就是你们去年9月在弹射起飞宣传片里看到的那两架歼-35原型机。那两架浅灰色歼-35的机身编号分别是3505和3506。照片里那架深色的歼-35才是真正的量产型歼-35,表面已经覆盖了新一代隐身蒙皮和涂料。新生产的歼-20改进型歼-20A和双座版歼-20S也是如此。
It can be seen from the dark skin that the wombat really loves his E-2. He has been teasing the big nose of the KJ-600 and thinks the big nose is ugly. What I want to say is that I understand his love for the E-2, but don’t judge a book by its appearance. The reason why the nose of the KJ-600 is larger is because its nose space is larger than that of the E-2D. The nose of the KJ-600 is 0.6 meters wider than the nose of the E-2D, and a larger weather radar is packed in./ In addition to the navigation radar... (skipped for brevity)
从深色蒙皮可以看出来,那个“袋熊(Wombat,博主外号)”是真的很爱他的E-2。他一直在拿空警-600的大鼻子开玩笑,觉得很难看。我想说,我理解他对E-2的感情,但人不可貌相。空警-600的鼻子大是因为它的机头空间比E-2D更大。它的机头比E-2D宽了0.6米,塞进了一台更大的气象雷达以及导航雷达。
the KJ-600 is equipped with an S-band + UHF dual-band gallium nitride phased array radar. This is the world's first shipborne early warning aircraft using dual-band radar. Public information shows that the latest E-2D radar is a gallium arsenide phased array radar, so from a technical level on paper, the KJ-600 The radar is half a generation ahead of the E-2D. Of course, whether the actual operating performance of the KJ-600 is really comparable to the E-2D depends not only on the paper data difference in the single hardware of the radar, but also on the performance of the radar-related back-end equipment and software systems. In these aspects, the United States has always been in a leading position.
空警-600配备了S波段+UHF双波段氮化镓相控阵雷达。这是世界上第一款使用双波段雷达的舰载预警机。公开资料显示,最新的E-2D雷达是砷化镓相控阵雷达,所以从纸面技术层面看,空警-600的雷达领先E-2D半代。当然,实际性能是否真能媲美E-2D,不仅取决于雷达硬件,还取决于后端设备和软件系统,而在这些方面,美国一直处于领先地位。 @鱼窝拜森
In addition, MOVER, there is an error in the title of your video. The Fujian uses J-35, not J-35A. There are currently three models of J-35. The J-35 is a carrier-based model and is exclusively used by the Chinese Navy. They are equipped for use on aircraft carriers. The J-35A is exclusively used by the Chinese Air Force. It has a lighter body structure and smaller wing area and cannot be used on aircraft carriers. In addition to the J-35 and J-35A, there is also the J-35E, which is a foreign trade version. The airfrx is the same as the Air Force’s J-35A, but the avionics and weapon systems are slightly different.
另外,MOVER,你视频标题有个错误。福建舰用的是歼-35,不是歼-35A。目前歼-35有三种型号:歼-35是舰载型,专供中国海军航母使用;歼-35A专供中国空军使用,由于机身结构更轻且翼展面积更小,无法在航母上使用;此外还有歼-35E,是出口贸易版,机身与空军型一致,但航电和武器系统略有不同。
@AbdulPAK Make sure what you wish for! You know, as they say. Anyway, you were saying that you haven't seen one with the folded wings. Well, here's the J-35 with folded wings for you, sir!
别乱许愿,如你所愿了!既然你刚才说还没见过折叠翼的,那瞧好了,先生,这就是你要的折叠翼歼-35!
@btkt6464 Dog fights, lets do dog fightshand-pink-waving
狗斗(近距离格斗),咱们来场狗斗吧!
@yours_sincerely48 Those WW2 move? Come On nowadays BVR warfare lile J10C with PL15 against Rafale. Remember Indiana Jones movie? The Bad guy was doing the Sword movement while Jones draw the gunn and took him down with a single shot. Just imagine J35 with PL 15 against F18 & F35..
还要玩二战那一套吗?拜托,现在是超视距(BVR)作战时代,就像歼-10C挂着霹雳-15打“阵风”。记得《夺宝奇兵》吗?坏人在那里耍大刀,而印第安纳·琼斯直接拔枪一枪干掉。想象一下挂着霹雳-15的歼-35对阵F-18和F-35的情况吧……
@kmwong1786 It's like watching the muppet show with Statler, Waldorf and Kermit roasting everything.
就像在看《布偶秀》,然后斯泰特勒、华尔道夫和科米特在各种吐槽。
@watarota Yeah roasting the jet for having too many radars while F35s been shipping with weights in place of radars. smh
是啊,他们嘲笑这飞机雷达太多,而F-35交付时居然用配重块代替雷达。无语。
@PeteVA-212 Guys, great segment. As an OLD A-4 carrier pilot, it had me laughing throughout the whole discussion. One nit, the A-4 Skyhawk did not have folding wings by design, and worked just fine on small deck carriers, reducing deck loading and maintenance issues. A departure from WWII Naval aircraft designs by Heinemann and his Douglas Aircraft team. Hook '26?
伙计们,这期很棒。作为一名前A-4舰载机飞行员,整个讨论让我笑个不停。纠正一点,A-4“天鹰”战机设计时就没有折叠翼,它在小甲板航母上运行良好,减少了甲板载荷和维护问题。这是海涅曼和道格拉斯团队对二战舰载机设计的突破。26年钩住拦阻索?
@TheWiseOne137 What happened to the kidnapped Venezuela president?
那个被绑架的委内瑞拉总统后来怎么了?
@jeffhager7787 Dorsal radar….that would be the one on the top…not in the nose.
背部雷达……那应该是装在顶部的,而不是机头。
@GirlBoyLacroix when it says dorsal its talking about the radome on the back being AESA. dorsal like a dorsal fin. dont see any info on the nose cone but it surely is another radar
提到“dorsal(背部)”时,指的是背上的AESA(有源相控阵雷达)雷达罩,就像鱼的背鳍一样。虽然没看到关于机头雷达罩的信息,但那里肯定还有另一个雷达。
@SVD762-lp9en Is this the start of the US century of humiliation?
这难道是“美国百年国耻”的开端吗?
@larryc1616 Millennium
是“千年国耻”。 @未央笑笑生
Then this is the start of world peace
那么这就是世界和平的开端。
@ex0duzz it started long ago but not because of China but USA humilating themselves lol. India is also in the race and probably leading currently on who can embarass and humilate themselves more globally.
早就开始了,但不是因为中国,而是美国自找的,哈哈。印度也在竞争行列,而且目前在“谁能让自己在国际上更丢脸”的比赛中可能处于领先地位。
@mdiesel23 @ex0duzz India is leading the race. India is the most advanced and developed country on the planet if we're using social media comments as the metric.
@ex0duzz 印度绝对遥遥领先。 如果按社交媒体评论作为衡量标准,印度已经是地球上最先进、最发达的国家了。
@Team6OWG Really started since 2001 at the very least. 20 Year war, $2T wasted, 2 decades lost. We never really recovered since 2008. Now were about to start another major war. Yeah its not going off to a good start for the US Century of Humiliation.
起码从2001年就开始了。20年战争,浪费了2万亿美元,失去了20年。自2008年以来我们从未真正恢复。现在我们又要卷入另一场大战。是的,这对所谓的“美国百年国耻”来说,开局可不太妙。
@PremiumMembers-o2n The current situation isn't what worries the US the most; it's the speed of development. Military strength comes down to industrial and technological capabilities. China's industrial capabilities far surpass the combined total of the G7 countries. Technological capabilities, frankly, come down to talent and energy, in which China also far surpasses other countries. So, technological superiority will eventually follow. It's like China is sprinting while other countries are jogging or standing still. China will quickly catch up with and surpass the US. Five years from now, ten years from now, I can imagine this channel's content will be very interesting. I hope this channel gets better and better, and that everyone can witness history together.
现状并不是最让美国担心的,担心的是发展速度。军事实力归根结底取决于工业和技术能力。中国的工业能力远远超过了G7国家的总和。坦白说,技术能力取决于人才和精力,在这些方面中国也远超他国。因此,技术优势终将到来。这就像中国在冲刺,而其他国家在慢跑或原地踏步。中国会迅速追上并超越美国。五年后、十年后,我可以想象这个频道的内容会非常精彩。希望频道越办越好,大家一起见证历史。
@troymash8109 Over a century of carrier ops against Temu. Stop smoking your farts.
用一百年的航母作战经验去对付“拼多多(Temu)版”装备。别再在那儿自我感觉良好了(直译为:别再闻你自己放的屁了)。






