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美国和以色列对伊朗战争有不同的议程

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CNN's Fareed Zakaria says that the US approach to the US-Israeli war with Iran is "scattered, shifting and uncertain," contrasting it with Israel's clearer obxtives.
Fareed is joined by Biden White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan to discuss the war. Sullivan observes that "this is basically a race between the US and Israel trying to impose as much damage as possible. . .and the Iranian regime trying to raise the price and the costs as high as possible."
 
CNN的Fareed Zakaria表示,美国在处理美以与伊朗战争的问题上“分散、变化不定且不确定”,与以色列更明确的目标形成对比。
法里德还邀请了拜登政府的国家安全顾问Jake Sullivan来讨论这场战争。沙利文观察到,“这基本上是一场竞赛, 美国和以色列尽可能施加伤害,而伊朗政权则尽量提高代价和成本。”
 
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@louisdabest3055
US: We spent 20 years in Afghanistan to replace Taliban with Taliban, we can do it again in Iran!
 
美国:我们在阿富汗花了20年,把塔利班换成塔利班,我们在伊朗也能再来一次!
 
@georgelabottum7448
Wasn’t too long ago Trump promised to support the Kurds in their war, then, he threw them to the wolves. You got to be nuts to trust him.
 
不久前,特朗普还承诺支持库尔德人在战争中,但随后他把他们抛给了狼。相信他的人一定疯了。
 
@useri4k9x
Russia provides target info on US troops and civilians. The US administration response to Russia: We will give Russia money by lifting sanctions on Russian oil. This is straight up treason.
 
俄罗斯提供关于美军和美国平民的目标信息。美国政府对俄罗斯的回应是:通过解除对俄罗斯石油的制裁向俄罗斯提供资金。这简直就是叛国。
 
@bachirk16
Americans, liberate your country from these criminals who claim to be God's chosen people.
 
美国人,把你们的国家从这些声称自己是上帝选民的罪犯手中解放出来。
 
@boe32kdk41gk
Israel wants the complete destruction of Iran, and Trump has fallen for it.
 
以色列想要彻底摧毁伊朗,而特朗普上当了。

@tromboneJTS
Listening to Fareed you hear intelligent, neatly organized arguments spoken with a voice of reason free from emotional content and wild speculation. All this is supported by a vast knowledge of world politics, historical facts, and common sense -- all presented in an easily understandable format in a calmly paced tempo.
 
听法里德讲话,你会听到智能、条理清晰的论点,用理性的声音表达,没有情绪化内容和胡乱推测。所有这些都建立在对世界政治、历史事实和常识的广泛知识基础上——以一种平缓节奏、易于理解的方式呈现。
 
@andrewdobson813
Those modal auxiliary verbs are overworked to the point of exhaustion in this video. I love the analysis based on past events. The speculation is pointless.
 
这些情态助动词在这个视频里被过度使用,几乎到了疲惫的地步。我喜欢基于过去事件的分析,但无谓的推测毫无意义。
 
@AGT0M
Something tells me the Chief had no idea oil tankers must be insured before they leave for their oil delivering journey.
 
我有种感觉,首席根本不知道油轮出发运油之前必须投保。
 
@OsenTb
Iran without Islamic regime means peace for middle east and prosperity and foreign investment for Iranians
 
没有伊斯兰政权的伊朗意味着中东和平,也意味着伊朗人繁荣和吸引外资。
 
@GaryRogers-w3n
When i look at countries i often look at what they look like. Maybe like Italy a boot or face what does Venezuela look like ??
 
当我看国家时,我常常关注他们的形状。比如意大利像个靴子,那委内瑞拉看起来像什么呢?
 
@Johnny-P-Good
Sending a country to the Stone Age is evil in itself. You are disrupting the lives of the people who live there who have nothing to do with their government. Is inhumane and evil.
 
把一个国家送回石器时代本身就是恶行。你在干扰那些与政府毫无关系的人民的生活。这是非人道和邪恶的。
 
@fpshooterful
Fareed hit it right on the head. Israel just wants the whole middle east weaken with war. So States or MOSTLY Israel can take over.  If Trump doesn't get out of office soon. Expect MANY American soliders to die. Lets not make this into Iraq again. Except it will be WORSE.
 
法里德说得很对。以色列只想通过战争削弱整个中东。这样美国或主要是以色列就可以接管。如果特朗普不尽快下台,预计会有很多美国士兵死亡。我们不要让这变成伊拉克,再说情况会更糟。
 
@flybefree
Damn those wars that don’t go exactly to plan! Oh well, at least it gives the media another angle of drama.
 
真是该死的战争,怎么就不能按计划进行呢!哦,好吧,至少这又给媒体提供了另一个戏剧性的角度。
 
@richardacevedo280
In a situation like this few segments of the complete action are planned.  I have seen it in organisations and in the implementation of political decisions.  There may be set forth obxtives but the day to day situation ends up affecting the approach and potentially the end result.
 
在这种情况下,完整行动的几个部分很少是经过计划的。我在组织和实施政治决策中见过这种情况。可能会设定目标,但日常情况最终会影响方法和潜在的最终结果。
 
@regularSenseAppeal
The real agenda is to have Iran block the Strait of Hormuz and have oil money flowing into Russia again. Second obxtive is have USA restrict weapon exports to Ukraine as they will be needed in the middle east. Thirdly Trump will use the war to either cancel midterms or use it as whataboutism to force Ukraine to hold elections. Trump is under Putins control NEVER forget that.
 
真正的议程是让伊朗封锁霍尔木兹海峡,让石油资金重新流入俄罗斯。第二个目标是让美国限制对乌克兰的武器出口,因为这些武器将在中东需要。第三,特朗普将利用战争要么取消中期选举,要么用这个作为借口迫使乌克兰举行选举。永远不要忘记,特朗普在普京的控制之下。
 
@ibutcherhicks
Did America learn anything from every single Middle East war in history?  You are dealing with a tribal culture.  Yes, Iran was in need of a regime change but in the Middle East, when you take out a leader with control over the tribes you create a massive power vacuum and an instantaneous civil war and you end up with a worse situation than you had before.
 
美国从历史上每一场中东战争中学到过什么吗?你面对的是一个部落文化。是的,伊朗确实需要政权更替,但在中东,当你推翻掌控部落的领导者时,你会制造一个巨大的权力真空和瞬时内战,最终结果可能比之前更糟。
 
(Read the History of all the Middle East especially how the Ottoman Empire broke up and about the Arab Revolt and Trans-Jordan which broke up into the Hassemites/Jordan, Saud/Saudi Arabia,..etc).  All Trump is going to accomplish is Nothing because the same powers will remain in control with a different person or a complete civil war with multiple groups that are more dangerous and worse than the one replaced (e.g., ISIS/ISIL in Iraq)  This is what happens when you have an ignorant buffoon surrounded by "yes men" whose influence can be bought running your country.
 
(看看整个中东的历史,尤其是奥斯曼帝国如何解体,以及阿拉伯起义和外约旦(后来分裂为哈希姆王朝/约旦、沙特/沙特阿拉伯等))。特朗普能做的只是无所作为,因为同样的势力会继续掌控,只是换了个人,或者会引发多方更危险、更糟糕的内战(例如伊拉克的ISIS/ISIL)。当一个无知的笨蛋被“唯唯诺诺”的人包围,而这些人又可以被收买来影响国家时,这就是结果。
 
@RadwanAbu-Issa
Due to its overwhelming military and economic supremacy, the absence of meaningful moral or religious constraints on the use of force, and its geographic insulation from the primary theaters of conflict, the United States has been able to wage wars—whether it wins them, loses them, or becomes mired in stalemate—inflicting catastrophic destruction and immense human suffering on other peoples, while remaining largely shielded from the direct consequences of those very wars.
 
由于美国在军事和经济上的压倒性优势,缺乏对使用武力的道德或宗教约束,以及地理上远离主要冲突战区,美国得以发动战争——无论是胜利、失败还是陷入僵局——对其他国家人民造成灾难性的破坏和巨大的人类痛苦,同时自身在很大程度上免受这些战争的直接后果。
 
This pattern has repeated across decades of American foreign policy: from the firebombing of cities and the atomic bombings of World War II, through the scorched jungles of Vietnam, the devastation of Afghanistan and Iraq, to the ongoing economic and military confrontation with Iran. In each case, the costs of war—death, displacement, societal collapse—are borne disproportionately by the populations of the targeted regions, while the United States, protected by its geography and power, remains relatively insulated from the havoc it helps to unleash.
 
这种模式在美国数十年的外交政策中一再出现:从二战时期的城市纵火和原子弹轰炸,到越南丛林的焦土战,再到阿富汗和伊拉克的破坏,以及与伊朗的持续经济和军事对抗。在每一种情况下,战争的代价——死亡、流离失所、社会崩溃——主要由目标地区的民众承担,而美国由于其地理位置和强大的国力,相对免于它所引发的混乱影响。
 
@zoprice4096
Yes, I’m Military is great, but they become greater in the company of someone else and not alone. OK so we must get that they never go in alone.
 
是的,军队很强大,但他们在别人的陪伴下会更强,而不是单独行动。明白了吗?所以我们必须确保他们从不单独行动。
 
@sahrtown
Your guess contributed to the problem when he worked for the government. Until you treat people the way you'd like to be treated during negotiations, this issue will keep happening repeatedly.
 
你在他为政府工作时的猜测加剧了问题。除非你在谈判中以希望被对待的方式对待他人,否则这个问题会反复发生。
 
@andresd6193
Military superiority doesn't always translate into a quick military victory or into a victory at all, just look at Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam.
 
军事优势并不总是能转化为迅速的胜利,甚至不一定能取得胜利,看看伊拉克、阿富汗和越南就知道了。
 
@alexgoslar4057
No war has a strategy for an amicable solution. War is, by definition, structured toward defeat through destruction. What were you hoping for?
 
没有战争会为友好解决而制定战略。战争从定义上来说就是通过破坏取得胜利。你指望什么呢?
 
@kieunchang7656
American's sufferings are totally insignificant compared to what Iranians are suffering. Can you imagine your child being blowen apart at the school?
 
美国人的痛苦相比伊朗人的痛苦完全微不足道。你能想象你的孩子在学校被炸成碎片吗?
 
@traceler
Objetives is to damage Iran nuclear and ballistic ambitions, change of regime was never the obxtive since that is not within your control, President just say that Iran have an opportunity to change regime, not that UN or US forces will be deployed to change regime at all.
 
目标是破坏伊朗的核武器和弹道导弹计划,政权更替从来不是目标,因为那不在你的控制范围内,总统只是说伊朗有机会更换政权,并没有说联合国或美国军队将部署去更换政权。
 
@AndrewFagerstorm
Nation building is tough and expensive Without regime change, if the bombing stopped today, what would have been accomplished?
 
建立国家很困难且昂贵,没有政权更替的话,如果今天轰炸停止了,究竟取得了什么成就?
 
@mikaelcronholm
Finally I hear wisdom spoken. Analysis by initiated professionals. And it's frightening. Because of the total amateurs that are running the US military at the top.
 
终于听到有智慧的声音了。由专业人士进行的分析,真让人害怕,因为那些管理美国军队顶层的完全是业余人士。
 
@Ankitkumar-kq1no
America bombed the middle east countries to the ground, do regime change and when this failed (in reality they do), millions of refugees migrate to the Europe, burdening the European resources. so when they talk about cultural erasure, it is due to the fact that America have destroyed more than 8 countries in Middle east, then they come back and make movie of how after killing thousands of civilians their veteran could not sleep and depressed. mfs
 
美国把中东国家轰炸成废墟,进行政权更替,当这失败后(实际上它们确实失败了),数百万难民迁徙到欧洲,给欧洲资源带来了负担。所以当他们谈论文化抹杀时,实际上是因为美国摧毁了中东8个以上的国家,然后他们回头拍电影,讲述在杀死成千上万平民后,他们的退伍军人无法入睡并感到抑郁。真是该死。
 
@scobraw47711
I want to discuss this personaly with him or his family.  Any intelligence is acceptable.
 
我想亲自和他或他的家人讨论这件事。任何情报都可以接受。
 
@Slayer23458
The US and Israel not communicating a plan doesn't mean there isn't one. You just don't tell the enemy the plan.
 
美国和以色列不公开计划并不意味着没有计划。你只是不会把计划告诉敌人。
 
@sshender3773
For Israel, or rather Netanyahu, this is also about regime security at home. He's using every possible card to increase his popularity ahead of the elections this year, including opening a new front with Hezbollah to keep at least one front going and playing on Israeli's fears and yearning to rid it of its enemies once and for all.
 
对以色列,或者更确切地说,对内塔尼亚胡来说,这也关乎国内政权安全。他正在利用一切可能的手段在今年选举前提升自己的支持率,包括与真主党开辟新战线,以保持至少一个战线的活跃,并利用以色列人对彻底清除敌人的恐惧和渴望。
 
@jjheartsvideos
The goal is clearly to remove the regime. But they may settle for something less than that.
 
目标显然是推翻政权。但他们可能会满足于比这更低的目标。
 
@federicocastellucchio1293
Saying that a major oil production and distribution disruption from the middle east, and the consequential raises in price of crude oil, may be beneficial for the American oil companies, strongly supported by a president that starts a war without congressional approval and get a lot of money from the same companies ... Is it a little controversial and / or suspicious? Follow the money ...
 
有人说,中东主要的石油生产和分销中断,以及由此导致的原油价格上涨,可能对美国石油公司有利,而总统在未经国会批准的情况下发动战争,并从这些公司获得大量资金……这是不是有点争议性和/或可疑?跟踪钱的流向……
 
@XMan-nz9xy
Looking back at the Iraq war, it was executed terribly, but the outcome many years later - a toothless fragile democracy. Is that better than what Sadam might have done? We will never know, and the price in blood and treasure for the US was significant, but not all ended badly.
 
回顾伊拉克战争,它执行得非常糟糕,但多年后的结果——一个无力、脆弱的民主——比萨达姆可能带来的情况好吗?我们永远也不会知道。对美国来说,付出的血和财产代价很大,但并非所有事情都以糟糕告终。
 
@jonbo69
This war doesn't benefit ordinary Americans, just the opposite. Nor do all the job losses from AI. The interests of the elites and the people is diverging ever further apart and the elites don't care.
 
这场战争对普通美国人没有好处,恰恰相反。人工智能带来的所有失业也是如此。精英阶层和民众的利益越来越分离,而精英们根本不在乎。
 
@ravi.annadurai
Whatever is obxtive of both the countries(US & Israel) , it will leave GCC destabilized and economically weaker(Oil, tourism, finance etc). I think it will take long term to repair.
 
无论美以两国的目标是什么,它都会让海湾合作委员会(GCC)不稳定,经济更弱(石油、旅游、金融等)。我认为修复将是长期的过程。
 
@MichaelPhouangmala
it is clear conclusion that US wants Israel to get real superpower for middle east and US will use Israel to bring oil and gas from Iran through Israel to US , is that simple ? that is a plan  , got it? but now the steal and deal are over means no more oil from IRAN !
 
很明显,美国希望以色列成为中东的真正超级大国,美国将利用以色列通过以色列把伊朗的石油和天然气运往美国,是不是很简单?这是一个计划,明白了吗?但现在“偷与交易”结束了,意味着不再有伊朗的石油了!
 
@NewYorkJew
Destroying Iran's political agenda and policy makers is the key to success. Remove everything big and maybe they will understand how to fix it.
 
摧毁伊朗的政治议程和政策制定者是成功的关键。把所有重要的东西清除,也许他们才会明白如何去修复。
 
@nisidola1576
A broken Iran is a good way to poke China in the eye removing a Chinese proxy from the region.
However these buffoons in charge in the USA and Israel had no planning, no vision, no strategy before pulling the trigger
 
一个破碎的伊朗是刺激中国的一种方式,可以移除该地区的中国代理人。
然而,美国和以色列那些在位的笨蛋在扣动扳机之前没有计划、没有远见、没有战略。
 
@charlesgoodis6302
What was occurring in Iran was not sustainable. Flipping the board of the game was the only option.
 
伊朗发生的事情是不可持续的。翻转棋盘是唯一的选择。
 
@hmkedar
Ouch! Don't drag jazz into this conversation! Jazz is anything but what you say their approach is!
 
哎呀!别把爵士乐扯进这个对话!爵士乐完全不是你所说的那种方式!
 
@mohamedabdirahman3706
Netanyahu is the head, america thinking they are independent from Israel’s occupation of white house/congress is absurd!
 
内塔尼亚胡是头目,美国认为自己独立于以色列对白宫/国会的占领,这简直荒谬!
 
@s7r3Z
There is a fuel shortage in the Gulf due to Netanyahu's drone strikes on fuel depots in the Gulf and the bombing of Iran, and exports will be prevented.
 
由于内塔尼亚胡对海湾地区油库的无人机攻击以及轰炸伊朗,海湾地区发生了燃料短缺,出口将被阻止。
 
@robertmaltbie1188
A solid geopolitical take on the war.  And as an indicted war criminal Netanyahu couldn’t care less about a genocidal civil war. Indeed it’s good for the Greater Israel scheme.  Add in Trumpstein and all criminal activity (add war crimes now) and illegal war is the new norm. Or simply, here we go again.
 
这是对战争的一个坚实的地缘政治分析。作为一名被起诉的战争罪犯,内塔尼亚胡根本不在乎种族灭绝性的内战。实际上,这对“大以色列”计划有利。再加上特朗普和所有犯罪活动(现在还加上战争罪行),非法战争成了新常态。或者简单来说,我们又回到了原点。
 
@ElloJallowJallow
Iran is fighting two cawards at the same time, good move Iran for choosing a hardliner
 
伊朗同时在与两个懦夫作战,伊朗选择一个强硬派的做法不错。
 
@perer005
How can the bestest friend and loyallest allay Israel not have the US best interests at heart?!?
 
作为最好的朋友和最忠诚的盟友,以色列怎么可能没有美国的最佳利益在心呢?!
 
@Jgleason23
Trump and all of his minions are traitors that have pissed on our constitution and the nation. They must be held accountable and thrown in prison.
 
特朗普和他所有的追随者是叛徒,他们践踏了我们的宪法和国家。必须让他们为此负责,把他们送进监狱。
 
@RachelLucas-u4p
The United States continues to lead through innovation, resilience, and global influence. Despite challenges, its economy, research ecosystem, and entrepreneurial culture remain incredibly strong. What sets America apart is its ability to adapt and reinvent itself in every era. That’s real long-term power.
 
美国依然通过创新、韧性和全球影响力引领世界。尽管面临挑战,其经济、科研生态系统和创业文化仍然非常强大。让美国与众不同的是它在每个时代都能适应并自我重塑的能力。这才是真正的长期力量。
 
@SuperSonicBaroque
This illegal attack will cause a new refugee crisis spanning the globe when no western country has the stable economy to deal with millions of Irans who will flee, and Bibi Netanyahu is responsible for causing so much pain and suffering. His criminality is up there with Stalin.
Trump getting conned into this will be the sane ugly stain as the Epstein Files.
 
这次非法攻击将引发全球范围的新难民危机,而没有哪个西方国家有稳定的经济来应对数百万逃离的伊朗人,内塔尼亚胡应为造成如此多的痛苦和苦难负责。他的罪行可与斯大林相比。
特朗普被卷入其中,将成为像爱泼斯坦档案一样丑陋的污点。
 
@Charles-v5d3p
Trump called the Military personnel (Suckers) for fighting a war. I have to agree with him. These soilders are fighting for a draft dodger who has 5 children and they go to their corporate jobs earn millions of dollars every year while the suckers serve their country putting their lives on the line. Garentee Don jr. Eric nor Baron will ever enlist in the military.
 
特朗普称参战的军人是“傻瓜”。我不得不同意他的看法。这些士兵为一个逃避征兵、有五个孩子的人而战,而这些人每年在企业工作赚取数百万美元,而这些傻瓜们则为国家服务、把生命置于危险之中。保证唐纳德·小唐纳德、埃里克和巴伦永远不会参军。
 
@JeSuisunHumain-222
This is quite rediculous, we in Israeli want a regime change with a free and stable Iran. Iranians have waited 47 years for freedom and democracy and they deserve it! They are not Syria and by all accounts they are committed to sticking together not your doomsday scenarios.  from Israel to our Iranian brothers and sisters!
 
这真荒谬,我们在以色列希望伊朗实现政权更替,建立自由稳定的国家。伊朗人等待自由和民主已经47年了,他们值得拥有!他们不是叙利亚,根据所有迹象,他们致力于团结一致,而不是你的末日场景。从以色列送给我们的伊朗兄弟姐妹!
 
@IrfanAnsari-rw6vo
After ww2. Western democracy and friyndum start 20+ war.. this really off Western..
 
二战之后,西方民主和自由主义发动了20多场战争……这真的很离谱。
 
@fgizat
Very complimentary analysis of the current quagmire. Trump does not deserve it.
 
对当前困境的分析非常中肯。特朗普不配得到它。
 
@ebok33643
Both countries always had different reasons for the war. Israel wants Iran erased from the map. I bet Israeli has solid evidence supporting Trump abusing young children. Guess which Jewish financier ran the biggest blackmailing buisness in the world?
 
两国对战争的理由一直不同。以色列想把伊朗从地图上抹去。我敢打赌,以色列有确凿证据证明特朗普虐待幼童。猜猜哪个犹太金融家在世界上经营最大的敲诈生意?
 
@ScrappyDoodad
Trump don't even know what the word 'Agenda' mean, he's reacting to shiny things for ratings and Epstein distraction
 
特朗普甚至不知道“议程”是什么意思,他只是对闪亮的东西做反应,为的是收视率和转移对爱泼斯坦事件的注意力。
 
@CarolTilley-j5p
Our military people deserve a good reason to kill people.   They have to live with themselves as a person that caused the death of some one else.
 
我们的军人应该有充分的理由去杀人。他们必须以自己作为导致他人死亡的人而活下去。
 
@kurt1526
trump started Operation Epstein Fury to deflect from his destruction of our Strong Ecnomy that he inherited. Total incompetent and fool.
 
特朗普发起“爱泼斯坦愤怒行动”,目的是掩盖他摧毁我们强大经济的事实,而这经济是他继承来的。完全不称职,是个傻瓜。
 
@lorddryp
USA / Russia are the worst, most evil regimes right now on the planet.
 
美国和俄罗斯是目前地球上最糟糕、最邪恶的政权。
 
@francisonochie5926
Why does cnn always focus on the negatives, instead of criticising why not offer a solution, u can't that's cos u don't have any solution to the issue
 
为什么CNN总是关注负面新闻,而不是批评并提出解决方案?你做不到,因为你根本没有任何解决问题的办法。
 
@htnaku4947 S is bankrupt and American are suffering from high inflation because all U.S Wars in the World. Stop all U.S Wars in the World  
美国破产了,美国人正因高通胀而受苦,这都是因为美国在全球的战争。停止所有美国的战争吧。
 
@AppalachiaAlpaca206
If this is the worst Iran can do it's not very bad at all. Oil hasn't even broken $100/bbl. Any tourism damage is short term. Getting rid of Iranian leadership and forcing their regime to adapt under external pressure looks like it is worth it. Israel and the Gulf states orchestrated a smart strategy and convinced or bribed Dumb Donald to go along with it.
 
如果这就是伊朗能做的最糟糕的事情,那其实一点也不严重。油价甚至还没突破每桶100美元。旅游业的损失只是短期的。摆脱伊朗领导层并迫使他们在外部压力下适应,看起来很值得。以色列和海湾国家策划了一个聪明的策略,并说服或贿赂了“唐纳德”去配合。
 
@zoprice4096
The US should just pull out and if Israel wants to continue to let Israel deal with it, but in my opinion, how could Iran what the Military and the regions anymore when those spaces are used to take action against them. But at the same time the US is making money off of the resources, her country and everything else to have their presence in the country.
 
美国应该撤出,如果以色列想继续,那就让以色列自己处理。但在我看来,当那些区域被用来对付他们时,伊朗还能怎么利用军队和这些地区呢?同时,美国也从这些资源、这个国家及其他一切中赚钱,以保持其在该国的存在。
 
@DavidHarrison-x2r4eyes
It's past time that everyone stops coddling Israel and treating them for what they are . It's been said that the best parts of a country ( or something like that ) are judged by how they treat the incarcerated . Nothing else to explain .
 
是时候停止宠溺以色列,并按他们本来的面目对待他们了。有人说,一个国家最优秀的部分(或者类似的东西)是通过他们对待被监禁者的方式来衡量的。除此之外,别无解释。
 
@MarkWise-k1x
All handsome men said they pop fetonal for not getting a record deal all 20 and 30 years of age all 2 million we not waiting until after
 
所有帅哥都说,他们因为没有拿到唱片合同而服用fetonal(药物),年龄都在20到30岁之间,每人花了200万美元,我们不打算等到之后再做。
 
@leggomyeigonosensei
Why bother agreeing to any deals with the US if it's just going to get canceled by another administration 4 or 8 years down the road??
 
如果与美国达成的任何协议到了4年或8年后都会被另一届政府取消,那还为什么要同意呢?
 
@ا.ب.پ.ت.ث
Our history is as long as history, and Western civilization has always envied us because our history has been full of humanity, unity, friendship, kindness, and creativity, but you are always loyal to your original idols, whose priest was Opsin, and you sacrifice humanity for them.
But the history of Western crimes against humanity is over
 
我们的历史长久如历史本身,西方文明一直羡慕我们,因为我们的历史充满了人性、团结、友谊、善良和创造力,但你们总是忠于你们原本的偶像,他们的祭司是奥普辛(Opsin),你们为他们牺牲了人性。
而西方对人类的犯罪历史已经结束。
 
@VoornaamAchternaam-y7w
The Americans owe a big apology to the world for chosing this horrible president. Right after he started its just been one horror after the next.
 
美国人应该向全世界道歉,因为他们选了这个可怕的总统。他一上台之后,接连发生了一次又一次的灾难。
 
@dm-ip8js
The U.S.-Israel military campaign against Iran has already cost about $6B in its first week, with thousands of strikes and heavy spending on interceptor missiles.
Despite the scale of the operation, officials in Washington still lack a clear understanding of what the final outcome of the campaign might be.
It will be like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
 
美以对伊朗的军事行动在第一周就已经花费约60亿美元,进行了数千次打击,并在拦截导弹上投入巨资。
尽管行动规模巨大,华盛顿的官员们仍不清楚这次行动的最终结果会如何。
这将像越南和阿富汗战争一样。
 
@lhda3716
The problem for the West and the Americans lies in their inability to understand the mentality of the people of the Middle East. They will never surrender, no matter the circumstances. They will continue to resist, even if their leaders die; others will rise up, and the struggle will continue. Secondly, I will share some information about Iran in this war. The Iranians are among the most patient people. Moreover, the structure of the Iranian army is not widely understood. There is the Revolutionary Guard, a separate entity from the regular army, with a command structure for every four ranks. Even if the entire top leadership were assassinated, chaos would not ensue because there is another leadership ready to take over. Finally, even if the capital, Tehran, were to fall and be occupied, the Revolutionary Guard would continue to fight fiercely. This is because the Guard is not lixed to a single central operations room; rather, coordination is only among themselves. Each corps has its own weapons and its own command center.
 
西方和美国的问题在于他们无法理解中东人民的心态。无论在什么情况下,他们永远不会投降。他们将继续抵抗,即使他们的领导人死去,其他人也会站起来,斗争将继续。其次,我将分享一些关于伊朗在这场战争中的信息。伊朗人是最有耐心的民族之一。此外,伊朗军队的结构并不被广泛理解。伊朗有革命卫队,它与常规军队是一个独立的实体,每四个军衔就有一个指挥结构。即使整个高层领导被暗杀,也不会引发混乱,因为还有其他领导层准备接管。最后,即使首都德黑兰被占领,革命卫队仍会继续激烈战斗。因为革命卫队并不依赖于一个单一的中央指挥中心,而是各自之间进行协调。每个军团都有自己的武器和指挥中心。
 
@joesmith1946
We cannot fail as long as we are willing to define whatever happens as success.   I remember when I was young and people would say about Vietnam that we should just declare victory and get out.  Trump will take whatever happens and say that was his plan all along.
 
只要我们愿意将发生的事情定义为成功,我们就不会失败。我记得小时候人们说关于越南战争的事情,我们应该宣布胜利然后撤出。特朗普会把发生的任何事情都说成是他早就计划好的。
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