老哥以为自己种族歧视,发现其实只是嫌贫爱富
2021-03-10 Kira_Yoshikage 24293
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>发现我对于绝大多数的少数群体都非常厌恶
>担心我可能是种族主义者
>打算试试我到底是不是种族主义者
>跟同事的一个朋友出去喝了几杯
>他是黑人
>而且挺好一人
>原来我只是讨厌穷人
妈耶还好我不是种族主义者

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banbooks
Anon is a liberal

老哥是个自由派

AntithesisRex
Same frankly. I fucking hate seeing people poor. I hate seeing them go without. I hate seeing them suffer. I hate that children can''t graduate due to lunch debt. I hate that being poor ironically is more costly. I hate food deserts. I hate late payment fees that rise daily.

说实话我也这么想。我他妈受不了看见别人过穷日子。我受不了看他们将就。我受不了看他们遭罪。我受不了看那些孩子们因为欠午饭钱而毕不了业。我受不了当穷人甚至比当有钱人开销还大。我受不了浪费食物。我受不了每天都上涨的违约罚金。

u_r_a_bold_1
oh I just hate seeing poor people cause they don''t have money

哦我只是不喜欢看见穷人,因为他们没钱
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AntithesisRex
Just pay them to fuck off, then. Unless you can''t afford it

那就给他们钱让他们滚蛋啊。除非你给不起。

Herofthyme
Stupid poor people, what kind of dumbass let''s themself be born poor

穷人真够蠢的,什么样的蠢货会让自己投胎在穷人家啊。

betarad
ur homeless ? lmao just buy a house

你无家可归?笑死我了不会买个房子吗

mrniceguy2216
What do you mean your homeless cause your house flooded, just sell your house an move somewhere else!

你说自己因为房子被水淹了无家可归是什么意思,把房子卖了搬到别的地方不就行了吗!

the_average_homie
I hate seeing people fall victim to the awful traps designed by the wealthy to keep poor people poor

我讨厌看到人们不小心陷入那些被有钱人设计的,用来保证穷人穷下去的陷阱。

RussianTrollToll
Poor people should absolutely not shop at WalMart type stores, because it is making the rich, richer. But they are too poor not to shop at WalMart.

穷人绝对不应该在沃尔玛那种商店购物,因为那会让有钱人更有钱。但他们又太穷,只能去沃尔玛。

PapaTachancla
Hijack Walmart delivery trucks

可以劫沃尔玛的货车

zentraudur
I hate that corporations make profit off people that can’t even cover all their bills and need food stamps

我讨厌那些在付不起自己账单、需要食物券的穷人身上压榨利润的公司。

sighs__unzips
Anon hangs out with rich minorities

老哥跟有钱的少数群体出去玩

Rich minorities shun him because he is poor

有钱的少数群体因为老哥穷而嫌弃他

Anon becomes racist

老哥变成了种族主义者

Toads_Enlightment
if you hate poor people so much you should give them money so they are no longer poor

假如你这么讨厌穷人,你应该给他们钱让他们不再穷
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DonPepe181
oh, if only it were that easy....

噢,要真有那么简单就好了……

KingOfRages
it’s surprisingly close to that easy.

实际上差不多就是那么简单。
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lotsasheep
And it doesn''t just help them, it helps their community as well

并且给钱不止帮助他们自己,还会帮助他们的社区

zayoe4
Lol thanks for the study I saved this to use against poor conservatives who think Governmental assistance is detrimental to the economy.

哈哈哈感谢你发来的这份研究,我会用这份研究来说服那群认为政府帮助对经济有害的保守派的。

FROSTbite910
Actually conservatives are doing it right by making everyone poor, we all are equal and no longer will we hate poor people because we’ll all be fighting over basic necessities instead. Conservatives care about equality

事实上保守派做的也没什么问题,只要让每个人都没钱,我们就人人平等了,也就不会厌恶穷人了,因为我们都得一起为对基本的生活必需品斗争了。保守派才是真的在乎平等啊。

ANAL_GAPER_8000
Lmao every other time I end up "debating" a right winger I''m told to stop watching a bunch of cable news that I never watch. To them, the only "true" news is from right wing sources and they don''t realize they''re buying into the exact thing they''re yelling at me about.

哈哈哈哈每次我跟一个右翼“辩论”到最后他们都告诉我别看某些我从来就没看过的电视新闻。对于他们来说,唯一“真实”的媒体来源就是右翼媒体,他们压根意识不到自己正在身体力行他们让我不要做的事情。
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Right wingers seem to think that news that reflects their worldview must be "centrist", "unbiased", and "true". Their belief in the logical fallacy that "reality has a conservative bias" compels them to only accept conservative "facts" because it must be right. Purely circular reasoning.

右翼人好像觉得只有那些反映他们自己世界观的新闻才是“中立”,“无偏见”,“真实”的。他们对“现实世界是偏向保守的”这种逻辑让他们只接受保守主义的“事实”,因为那肯定是对的。完全是循环论证。

Chrisfand
Do you think throwing money at the homeless drug addicts downtown is going to stop them from being poor?

你认为往那些到处都是无家可归的瘾君子的郊区扔钱会让他们脱离贫困吗?

How about the mentally ill ones?

那些精神有问题的人呢?

How much money do you think a homeless person not in those two groups would need to get out of poverty?

你认为这两种无家可归者需要多少钱才能摆脱贫困?

EPIKGUTS24
the poor are a much larger class than just homeless Addicts...

穷人远不止无家可归的瘾君子一种……

sitbar
no you''re either rich, or a poor drug addicted degenerate. no inbetween

不,你要么有钱,要么是没钱又染了毒瘾的人渣。没有第三种。

EPIKGUTS24
don''t be dumb. you''re either rich and addicted to Cocaine, or poor and addicted to Meth.

别犯傻了。你要么是个吸可卡因的富人,要么是个吸甲基安非他命的穷人。

JasonMaguire99
Just like how liberals think you''re either a exploited impoverished worker or a hedge fund billionaire, right?

就像自由派觉得你要么是个被剥削的没钱的工人,要么是个对冲基金亿万富翁,对吧?

cornerstorenewports
and early childhood education! that makes all the difference in the world. but who cares about statistics and long term health of your community amirite?

还有早期儿童教育!这方面简直太重要了。但谁会在乎统计学和对社区群体长期健康有好处的事情呢?

JustawayV2
Yes! Government nowadays insists in creating more and more opportunities to poor people enter in universities, but it won''t work, simply because it would create bad professionals since most of them had a shitty early education.

没错!政府现在坚持让越来越多的穷人有机会上大学,但根本没用,完全是因为到后来他们也只能成为差劲的专业人士,因为他们的早期教育基本上都很差劲。

Master_Nerd
I prefer the Reagan way

我更倾向于里根的方式

stonewall97
Me too! Flooding poor neighborhoods with copious amounts of Cocaine is a good way to solve poverty

我也是!往穷困社区里输送大量的可卡因实在是最棒的消灭贫困的方式了。

EGG_PLANT_MAN
Liberals be like

这不就是自由派

MagicBeanGuy
Aren''t libs trying to raise minimum wage, and some support UBI and free shit?

自由派不是在提倡提高最低薪酬,有些人还支持统一基础薪资和免费攻击之类的玩意儿吗?

PoliteChandrian
Liberals and leftists aren''t the same thing, many liberals hold Republican beliefs.

自由主义者和左翼并不是一回事。很多自由主义者也赞同共和党的想法。

MagicBeanGuy
Ah, so that''s the distinction. I agree completely but people tend to use those terms interchangeably

啊,所以区别在这里。我完全赞同,但人们总是倾向于把这两个词搞混。

BxLorien
What would you call a progressive that still thinks capitalism is good? I''ve seen most lefties calling these people liberals, but most of them obviously don''t hold conservative views.

那你管那些仍然认为资本主义很好的进步主义者叫什么呢?我知道的绝大多数左人都管他们叫自由主义者,但他们的看法显然不是保守主义的。

Obscure-Iran-General
They hold economically conservative views, but socially progressive ones. I''m not sure if that qualifies as liberal, but it''s definitely hard to justify

他们在经济上选择保守主义,但在社会上选择进步主义。我不太确定这算不算是自由派,但显然很难界定。

j4mag
Liberal covers a lot of ground. Classical Liberalism is pretty mainstream republicanism. Ordoliberalism is Obama / Biden ''Blue Dog Democrat''.

自由派包括很大一部分。经典自由主义放到今天基本就是主流共和党的想法。秩序自由主义是奥巴马和拜登的“蓝狗民主党”的想法。

Neoliberal can mean either imperialist, anarchocapitalist, or ordoliberal depending on who you ask. r/neoliberal is center left, and does generally support raising minimum wage, UBI or NIT, expanding Medicare, etc.

新自由主义者既可以是帝国主义者,无政府资本主义者,也可以是秩序自由主义者,看你问谁。reddit上的新自由主义版是中左翼,基本上都支持提高基础薪酬,推动统一基础工资,扩张医保范围,等等。

Labels can be unwieldy, and Liberal can range from ''Social democrats who think capitalism is good usually'' to ''PragerU guest host''.

标签有时候不那么管用,并且从“觉得资本主义通常来说都是好制度的社会民主党”到“普拉格大学嘉宾主持”,这些人都可以是自由派
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MagicBeanGuy
I agree, which is why I find it strange that "Liberals be like" and "must be a liberal" is so pervasive. And vice versa, for that matter.

我同意,所以我发现“这就是自由派”和“肯定是自由派”这种说法总是能蛊惑人心,反之亦然。

Because people colloquially use "Liberal" to simply mean "Democrat," and then people''s idea of "Democrat" has no nuance, everything gets misrepresented constantly. Same with Conservative and Republican of course.

因为人们总是用“自由派”来说“民主党人”,并且人们对“民主党人”的概念也很含混不清,所以什么东西都经常被说错。保守主义和共和党人也是如此。

j4mag
Yeah. I think the political compass has rotted people''s brains a bit, with people who legitimately think Biden is authoritarian. Russia''s President literally hired assassins on his political rivals. Even Macron has been pushing some concerningly authoritarian anti-islamist messaging lately, and France is practically synonymous with liberty.

没错。我觉得政治光谱已经把人们的脑子给整烂了,甚至有人坚定不移地认为拜登是个集权主义者。总统真的在雇佣杀手去暗杀他的政敌。甚至马克龙最近都在推进一些令人担忧的反伊斯兰极权主义信号,而法国一直以来都是和自由这个词划等号的。

In general I try to just avoid political labels and describe policy positions. It takes longer to get points across, but you can at least be confident that they do get across.

总地来说我尝试避免给别人贴政治标签、解释政策观点。可能要花更长的时间才能把道理讲清楚,但是至少你确实可以把道理讲清楚。

boundlesslights
Liberals are more into hating the rich for not helping the poor

自由派更倾向于因为富人不帮助穷人而痛恨富人。

Exedra_
No... That''s more people on the economically left side of the political spectrum. Liberals are right wing, economically. Pro-capitalism, and all that.

不……那更像是政治光谱上站在经济左翼的人。自由主义者在经济上是右翼,支持资本主义,等等。

ShadowKnight324
Perhaps he is talking about America liberals. They seem to be a little hard to distinguish them from democrats which is quite weird because the seem to be more socialist than anything

或许他说的是美国的自由派。他们好像和民主党之间有点难以区分,因为诡异的是他们好像更倾向于社会主义。

Foxtro7
America liberals? Liberal means the same thing everywhere. It’s a specific ideology. And Democrats are liberals.

美国的自由派?自由派到哪儿都是一个意思。那是一种意识形态。并且民主党算自由主义者。

Liberals aren’t leftists. Democrats are the left-wing party in America, and they are liberals, but that’s just because America as a whole is so far right. In a European context, Democrats are centrists at best.

自由主义者不是左翼。民主党是美国的左翼政党,民主党是自由主义人士,但这是因为美国整个国家都是极右的。放到欧洲,民主党顶多是中间主义者。

And people with socialist leanings aren’t liberals. They’re leftists.

而且有社会主义倾向的人不是自由派。他们是左翼。

ShadowKnight324
Actually I said it jokingly, making fun of the bizarre politics in American. Were I live the liberals are actually on the right side of the spectrum and I know this. I agree with what you said

事实上我是在开玩笑,在拿美国光怪陆离的政治逗乐。在我生活的地方自由派也算是政治光谱的右翼,我知道这一点。我同意你所说的话。

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