中国开始禁止汽车隐藏式门把手。老外一致赞同
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@RYN988
I support this. Let’s also reintroduce physical buttons and knobs where it makes sense.
我支持这一点。让我们也在合理的地方重新引入物理按钮和旋钮。
@magoo9279
Like windows. Nothing more annoying when the motor goes out in the window and no way to roll it up or down.
比如车窗。没有什么比车窗电机坏了，导致没法升降更让人烦恼的了。
@Moon4Raker
@magoo9279 all mechanical operations in the cars never broke down and were the most reliable and user-friendly. NO BATTERY USAGE I am 60+ so I know for a fact
@magoo9279 汽车里的所有机械操作都从未出过故障，而且是最可靠、最人性化的。不需要消耗电池。我60多岁了，所以我很清楚事实就是这样。
@Lortmane
@Moon4Raker You obviously never had a car with roll up windows. They broke down much more often than the electric ones and no, you could not open them when they did, sometimes you could not close them when they broke.
@Moon4Raker 你显然从未拥有过带手摇车窗的车。它们坏掉的频率比电动车窗高得多，而且坏了之后你根本打不开，有时坏了也关不上。
@yxetr3159
@Lortmane 61 year old here. Been driving since I was 16 and never had a mechanical window fail. Have had a power window refuse to close though. I live in Canada and that sucks in the winter
@Lortmane 我今年61岁。从16岁开始开车，从未遇到过机械车窗故障。但我遇到过电动车窗无法关闭的情况。我住在加拿大，在冬天那感觉糟透了。
@heyitsjustaz
@Lortmane yeah the 60 year olds remember their new cars that cost 1200 dollars working great but the 40 year olds who had to deal with them second hand have a very different recollection I guarantee lol
Several of my friends either had whole doors that wouldn't work because the window mechanism was so badly jammed, or were using plastic sheets to cover windows that wouldn't roll back up lol
@Lortmane 是的，60岁的人记得他们那些花1200美元买的新车运行良好，但我保证，那些不得不开二手车的40岁的人记忆完全不同。
我的好几个朋友要么是因为车窗机构卡得太死导致整个车门都废了，要么是在用车门塑料布遮盖那些关不上的车窗。
@a6am3mn0n
@yxetr3159 a single datapoint is not enough to build a statistical model. If its mechanical it can wear out and fail. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean its the norm.
@yxetr3159 你这算单个数据点不足以建立统计模型。只要是机械的，就会磨损并失效。仅仅因为你运气好并不代表这就是常态。
@yxetr3159
@a6am3mn0n Haha wow you take this pretty seriously ! I wasn’t meaning to provide data, I was just passing along an anecdote.
@a6am3mn0n 哈哈，哇，你对此很认真。我并不是想提供数据，我只是在分享一个轶事。
@yxetr3159
@heyitsjustaz I’ve never owned a new car so I also have had to deal with all the failures. It hasn’t happened to me but I do know some whose whole door fell off lol
@heyitsjustaz 我从未拥有过新车，所以我也得处理各种故障。虽然我没遇到过这种情况，但我确实知道有些人的整个车门都掉下来了。
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@Moon4Raker Window cranks break
@Moon4Raker 车窗手柄也会断。
@Lortmane
@h @heyitsjustaz orry to burst your bubble my friend but this 65 year old got his first car for $100 at 25 and it was a rust bucket with holes in the floor. In fact my first four cars were used and i only got my first brand new one at $25k, a cavalier, because my mom cosigned the loan. I was 28 at the time. And no one i knew, meaning actual friends i frequented, did any better than I did. So it really irritates me when you sort of lump all 60 year olds into this utopian world. But somehow that world existed without me because my friends and even acquaintances weren’t owning homes until their 30s and 40s. So i dont know where that world was but i need a refund.
@h @heyitsjustaz 很抱歉打破你的幻想，我的朋友，但这个65岁的老人在25岁时花了100美元买了第一辆车，那是个地板上有洞的锈铁桶。事实上，我的前四辆车都是二手的，直到28岁我才买到第一辆价值2.5万美元的新车，那是辆骑士，还是因为我妈帮我联署贷款才买成的。
我认识的所有人，也就是我经常交往的朋友，过得并不比我好。所以当你把所有60岁的人都归入那个乌托邦世界时，真的让我很恼火。
但不知何故，那个世界并没有我的份，因为我的朋友甚至熟人直到三四十岁才拥有自己的房子。所以我不知道那个世界在哪，但我需要退款。
@kataru19
When China has higher standards than the US
当中国的标准高于美国时
@NoriegaVibes
@kataru19 The USA is in decline. We’re like a super-buff guy with no brains. We’ve got muscle in our military—but that’s about it. We’re starting to suck at everything else.
@kataru19 美国正在衰落。我们就像一个没有头脑的肌肉男。我们在军事上有肌肉，但也仅此而已。我们在其他所有事情上都开始变得糟糕。
@bazzers
@NoriegaVibes The intentional dismantling of world-leading US science over this past year has been tragic.
@NoriegaVibes 在过去的一年里，美国领先世界的科学领域遭到蓄意拆解，这太悲惨了。
@SRI_J_A_A
@NoriegaVibes Decline by design. planned.
@NoriegaVibes 这种衰落是设计好的。是有计划的。
@chbonnhoff
@bazzers It is the result when good education is +/- only provided by private schools. In CH it is the opposite. Kids visiting private schools most likely failed, aka where not good enough in public schools.
@bazzers 这是优质教育基本只由私立学校提供后的结果。在瑞士情况则相反。上私立学校的孩子很可能是失败者，也就是说在公立学校里不够优秀。
@ontopoftheroof
@kataru19 The U. S. once was leading in consumer protection. Until four decades or so ago when it started to fall behind.
@kataru19 美国曾经在消费者保护方面处于领先地位。直到大约四十年前，它开始落后了。
@epsteinPimpedMelania
@kataru19 we're a third world country. Crumbling infrastructure. Lacking humanity as homeless Bodies freeze in every cold state. 50% increase in animal cruelty.
@kataru19 我们是一个第三世界国家。基础设施崩溃。由于无家可归者的尸体在每个寒冷的州被冻僵，这缺乏人性。虐待动物的行为增加了50%。
@JulianDelphinki
@epsteinPimpedMelaniaWTF? 50% increase in animal cruelty. Almost everything is alarming now a days but that is awful.
@epsteinPimpedMelania 什么？虐待动物的行为增加了50%。如今几乎所有事情都令人担忧，但这实在是太可怕了。
@TheRealMorganParker-s9f
@epsteinPimpedMelania While Evangelicals denounce empathy.
@epsteinPimpedMelania 而福音派信徒则在谴责同理心。
@theosiris4179
Euro NCAP no longer awards 5-star safety ratings when critical controls are digitalized. Turn signals, Hazard lights, Windshield wipers, Horn, and SOS / Emergency call systems are all required to have physical buttons now to reach a 5-star safety rating for cars in Europe.
欧洲新车安全评鉴协会不再为关键控制功能数字化后的车辆授予五星安全评级。现在，转向灯、危险报警灯、雨刷器、喇叭以及SOS紧急呼叫系统都必须配备物理按键，才能在欧洲获得汽车五星安全评级。
@froodtube
Screens aren't necessarily bad, but they need to let you set them up and then the screen stays FIXED when the car is running.
I rent a lot of cars and it amazes me how much more dangerous newer cars are. To change a radio station you have to switch to radio mode from nav mode, then scroll one station at a time and either keep your focus on it or wait all day for auto scroll, then save, go through the loop, then switch back to nav.
You get focused in on the menus instead of focused on the road. Just eliminate any and all menus while driving. If the touch screen let you set to you had radio buttons on bottom, ac on the side, and Nav on the rest it would be fine as long as once its moving, that's what you are stuck with.
屏幕不一定坏，但它们需要让你设置好，然后当车行驶时，屏幕应该保持固定。
我租过很多车，新车竟然变得更危险了，这让我很惊讶。要换个电台，你得从导航模式切换到收音机模式，然后一个一个电台地滚动，要么盯着看，要么等一整天让它自动滚动，然后保存，走完这一圈，再切回导航。
你的注意力全在菜单上，而不是在路面上。驾驶时应该取消所有菜单。如果触摸屏能让你设置好——比如底部是收音机按钮，侧面是空调，其余部分是导航——只要车一动就固定住，那也没问题。
@squidwick8457
I will NOT buy a car if the ac controls are on a screen
如果空调控制是在屏幕上，我绝对不会买这辆车。
@DW-ue1cl
@squidwick8457 huh never thought of that but Thank you I will keep it in mind ❤
@squidwick8457 嘿，以前没想过这一点，但谢谢提醒，我会记住的。
@mranderson4001
I WANT TO MOVE TO China SO BAD FK USA IT IS SO MONEY FIRST NOT SAFETY FIRST IN THE USA ❤❤❤❤
我太想搬到中国去了，去他的美国。在美国，钱永远排第一，安全不是第一位的。
@DW-ue1cl
@mranderson4001I feel that. Big fan of Chinas united progress as a nation on technology and climate adaptation. Unfortunately most Americans, (myself included), are uneducated, unskilled, and rude. So no incentive for other countries to take us in
@mranderson4001 我感同身受。我非常欣赏中国作为一个国家在技术和气候适应方面的统一进步。遗憾的是，大多数美国人（包括我自己）都没受过良好教育、缺乏技能且没礼貌。所以其他国家没有理由接纳我们。
@Derpderpy12
China is beating the US in leaps and bounds. They behave way more capitalistic than the US. Only difference is their government has the power and here it’s the corporations.
中国正在突飞猛进地超越美国。他们表现得比美国更像资本主义。唯一的区别是他们的政府掌握权力，而这里是企业掌握权力。
@douglass220
@Derpderpy12 thats is so true
@Derpderpy12 太对了。
@ms8596
In an emergency, that has to be the absolutely worst thing not being able to open doors because the power fails. Aesthetically, it looks wonderful, functionally not so good.
在紧急情况下，因为断电而无法打开车门绝对是最糟糕的事。视觉上，它看起来很棒，但功能上就没那么好了。
@ontopoftheroof
Except for the knobs in the White House.
除了白宫里的那些“笨蛋”。
@DW-ue1cl
@ontopoftheroof brilliant
@ontopoftheroof 绝了。
@molotovgorl14
YES! No more touch screen dashes
没错！不要再有触摸屏仪表盘了。
@lomein2186
@molotovgorl14 my fav thing to do is force a tesla driver to use their windshield wiper button
@molotovgorl14 我最喜欢做的事就是强迫特斯拉司机去按他们的雨刷按钮。
@SRI_J_A_A
like a physical deadman switch to shut off your car.
就像一个能关掉汽车的物理失能开关。
@lemonz1769
We need to stop buying the designs we don’t like. That’s the only surefire way to get change. If you keep buying buttonless cars they’ll keep making them. You might need to buy a lower end model or a used car.
我们需要停止购买那些我们不喜欢的车型设计。这是确保改变的唯一方法。如果你一直买没有按钮的车，他们就会一直生产。你可能需要买低端车型或二手车。
@chrisray1567
And let’s keep actual side and rear view mirrors instead of cameras.
而且让我们保留真实的侧视镜和后视镜，而不是摄像头。
@JulianDelphinki
How many times did that have to happen for China to care?
这种情况得发生多少次才能引起中国的重视？
@douglass220
@JulianDelphinki . 1 time if it happens to an important person or their relative
@JulianDelphinki 只要发生在一个重要人物或他们的亲属身上，一次就够了。
@smackledorf3614
My 15 year old civic runs great.
The power locks went a few years back. The parts require special order from honda, who has no stock, and the labor estimate was insane.
Of course only one door has a manual key option.
I really dislike a lot of new design choices.
我那辆15年车龄的思域运行良好。
几年前中控锁坏了。零件需要向本田特制，但他们没库存，而且人工费估价高得离谱。
当然，只有一扇门有手动钥匙选项。
我真的很不喜欢现在的很多新设计。
@blocksmithing
And being able to shift into neutral without power
还有在没电的情况下也能挂进空挡。
@shellenwang2361
Can’t agree more!
完全同意！
@TratUsYT
Aerodynamics also
还有空气动力学。
@chknugetdino
See i get it, and i hate evs and dont like the look of these handles, but in a crash theres an almost identical risk of the door getting stuck or not opening with regular handles. I think more than a door handle ban there should be a window breaker requirement. Every vehicle should have a window breaker/seat belt cutter somewhere readily accessible.
我明白，我讨厌电动车，也不喜欢这些把手的外观。但在碰撞中，普通把手卡住或打不开的风险几乎是一样的。我觉得比起禁止某种门把手，更应该强制要求配备破窗器。每辆车都应该在触手可及的地方放置一个破窗器或安全带切割器。
@SubAstray
LIKE F-IN HVAC AND WINDOWS.
就像该死的空调和车窗一样。
@chbonnhoff
100% agree. Period.
百分之百同意。没说的。
@Moon4Raker
same thing with the seats back to mechanical.
座椅也一样，应该回归机械控制。
@TransitTechLA
How about you buy something you want, and i buy what i want? How about that? I want hidden door handles.
不如你买你想要的，我买我想要的？怎么样？我就想要隐藏式门把手。
@doranhamilton7075
Also, spare tire for all vehicles
还有，所有车辆都应该配备备胎。
@HeisenTemu
This! Holy shiet its ass when i have to scroll thru 7 menus trying to change temperature in my car
就是这个！天哪，当我为了调个车内温度得翻七个菜单的时候，真是太烂了。
@doubleslit9513
We use to have a saying when I was working with the government to standardize pcs, servers, network architecture, software, etc. and that saying said : “Never standardize for the sake of standardization”. In other words, if having a standard pc configuration didn’t work for 20% or more of the user base, it shouldn’t be standardized. Same thing goes here if a door handle fails when wet, maybe electric door handles are a bad standard.
我以前在政府部门负责电脑、服务器、网络架构和软件等标准化工作时，有句格言：永远不要为了标准化而标准化。换句话说，如果一个标准的电脑配置对20%或更多的用户不起作用，它就不应该被标准化。这里也一样，如果门把手受潮就失灵，那么电子门把手也许就是一个糟糕的标准。
@fpshooterful
When it comes to CLIMATE control. There better be buttons. I don't know how people do it just with a touch screen, especially with Teslas.
说到空调控制，最好得有按钮。我不知道人们是怎么只用触摸屏操作的，尤其是特斯拉。
@danecarpenter8735
Especially mechanical brakes.
尤其是机械刹车。
@forestpagan4813
@danecarpenter8735 : Fly by wire is another issue, and has been used in cars since the late 1990's. Do you remember those Toyota's that would randomly accelerate uncontrollably?
@danecarpenter8735 线控系统是另一个问题，从20世纪90年代后期就开始应用在汽车上了。你还记得那些会随机失控加速的丰田车吗？
@hey5700
Yeah me to. EU will require more physical buttons soon
我也是。欧盟很快就会要求增加更多的物理按钮。
@geno_purple
Unfortunately touch screens are cheaper while seemig more luxurious to the average consumer so this is unlikely to change soon
不幸的是，触摸屏更便宜，同时在普通消费者眼里显得更豪华，所以这种情况短期内不太可能改变。
@ryanspencer6778
@geno_purple which is why we need regulations. So the corpo rats can't sell us an inferior, dangerous product.
@geno_purple 这就是为什么我们需要监管。这样那些企业的吸血鬼就没法把劣质、危险的产品卖给我们了。
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@ron-johnsmith8367
Imagine making your car a death trap for fashion.
想象一下，为了时尚把汽车变成致命陷阱。
@killerPENGUINZZ
That’s like Elon’s whole M.O.
那基本上就是埃隆马斯克的一贯作风。
@DeeMode207
Mass transit wasn’t profitable enough but they promoted passenger cars
公共交通不够赚钱，所以他们推广私家车。
@TwizzleTown
What an excellent way youve summed up Elon's entire brand.
The worst part is his taste in fashion is awful
你对埃隆整个品牌的总结太精辟了。
最糟糕的是，他的时尚品味还很烂。
@guise6011
@TwizzleTown the door handle isnt for fashion it for efficiency. For better aerodynamic, less drag. Which means, less power needed, which means The electric cars can travel further
@TwizzleTown 这种门把手不是为了时尚，而是为了效率。为了更好的空气动力学和更小的阻力。这意味着需要的能量更少，也意味着电动车可以跑得更远。
@NinjaXryho
@guise6011 That doesn't explain anything. The issue was that the manual override for Teslas required you to be inside. So if the person in the car is unconscious or incapacitated, there's no simple way to open the door. You can make it both aerodynamic and manually operable at the same time.
@guise6011 这根本解释不了任何问题。问题在于特斯拉的手动强制开启开关需要你在车内操作。所以如果车内的人昏迷或丧失行动能力，就没有简单的方法从外面打开门。你完全可以做到既符合空气动力学，同时又能从外部手动操作。
@sv6180
@guise6011 that aerodynamic benefit isn't even that huge .
@guise6011 空气动力学带来的那点好处甚至都没那么大。
@guise6011
@NinjaXryho what you talking about? Most morden cars automatically lock when you drive and they cant be open from the outside until completely parked and opened from inside. This is literally the same so what bs are you talking out? Even the older cars, once locked from the inside, you cant open from the outside
@NinjaXryho 你在说什么呢？大多数现代汽车在行驶时会自动上锁，在完全停稳并从内部开启之前，从外面是打不开的。这本质上是一样的，你在胡扯什么？即使是老旧车型，一旦从内部上锁，你也没法从外面打开。
@guise6011
@sv6180 you dont drive tesla or an electric car do you? There is a reason why their battery efficiency is the best and why everyone is copying their design. People think electric car problem is the range or charging time, but the biggest problem is efficiency, i.e., does 300 miles actually mean 300 miles
@sv6180 你不开特斯拉或者电动车吧？它们的电池效率之所以最高，以及为什么大家都在模仿它们的设计，是有原因的。人们认为电动车的问题在于续航或充电时间，但最大的问题其实是效率，也就是说，标注的300英里续航是不是真的能跑300英里。
@chaosharmonix
@guise6011 It's for manufacturing efficiency more than aerodynamic drag.
@guise6011 这更多是为了制造效率，而不是为了降低空气阻力。
@guise6011
@chaosharmonix same difference
@chaosharmonix 没多大区别。
@MrMannyhw
That’s Elon musk.
这就是埃隆·马斯克。
@BeqaQueue
Lol proudly selling a product that will kill you is America coded
笑死，自豪地推销一款会害死你的产品，这非常美国范儿。
@rioriggs3568
Musk knew it would kill but didn't care!
马斯克知道这会出人命，但他根本不在乎！
@sK0pe-d9b
American companies at work
这就是美国公司的作风。
@orangej5005
imagine selling a death trap to a bunch of misinformed people
想象一下，把一个致命陷阱卖给一群不明真相的人。
@paulgauci4262
That what manufacturers have been doing.
制造商们一直都在这么做。
@paulrr5711
Cars are death traps.
汽车本身就是致命陷阱。
@cPu_lnz
It is due to reducing wind resistance
这是为了减少风阻。
@Samuelaustin
Aerodynamics actually not for fashion.
其实是为了空气动力学，不是为了时尚。
@shadowstalker1515
We call that a fashion over function victim
我们称之为“重时尚轻功能”的受害者。
@ubermenschen3636
Wrong. It’s for saving money. Fatter bottom line.
错了。是为了省钱。为了更丰厚的利润。
@josephrumpsa180
BEAUTY IS PAIN!
美丽是要付出代价的！
@mycardbrokedown5699
Imagine the Chinese of all people giving 2 shits about it before everybody else!!!!
想象一下，竟然是中国人先于所有人开始重视这个问题！
@alrighty6898
@mycardbrokedown5699 they have to if they want to sell their vehicles overseas. There has been many deaths because of their electric vehicles (mostly BYD) catching on fire after a crash and the occupants died with bystanders unable to get them out.
@mycardbrokedown5699 如果他们想把车卖到海外，就必须这么做。已经发生过很多起因他们的电动车（主要是比亚迪）在碰撞后起火导致的死亡事件，乘客丧生是因为旁观者无法将他们救出来。
@guise6011
@alrighty6898 a lot of cars catches on fire when they crash lol. All of a sudden people forget petrol and desiel are fuel
@alrighty6898 很多车在碰撞时都会起火。人们突然间就忘了汽油和柴油也是燃料。
@mycardbrokedown5699
@alrighty6898 yeah but usually the eu or usa issues a warning or a new import rule and then the Chinese are like ... fffiiiiiine we'll do it ... lol
@alrighty6898 是的，但通常是欧盟或美国发布警告或新的进口规则，然后中国人就会说：行吧……我们改就是了。
@brandons7888
More than likely wasn't for fashion. It is for over complication. They need to over engineer something so simple so that way when it breaks it costs an arm and a leg to fix
很可能不是为了时尚。是为了过度复杂化。他们需要把简单的东西设计得极其复杂，这样坏了的时候，修理费就会贵得要命。
@Chris-wg2dp
Self driving cars anyone? Then they self drive them self to a train crossing or a side of a house.
有人要买自动驾驶汽车吗？然后它们会把自己开到铁路道口或者撞到房子侧面。
@chris-st6sm
yeah but driving in China is sorta the same thing no matter what kind of car you have
是啊，但在中国开车，不管你开什么车，情况都差不多。
@selenasmith7943
Its not the door handles its the batteries
问题不在于门把手，而在于电池。
@mannotwiththeplan
@selenasmith7943 When the batteries burn and the car loses power, you can't get out because of THE DOOR HANDLES
@selenasmith7943 当电池燃烧且车辆断电时，正是因为门把手你才出不来。
@cPu_lnz
@mannotwiththeplan i assume you ca get out from the inside but struggle to open from outside
@mannotwiththeplan 我想你应该可以从内部出来，但外面的人很难打开门。
@meyou3353
@selenasmith7943 yeah WHEN THE ELECTRICITY IN YOUR HOUSE STOPS WORKING...SO DOES THE LIGHT SWITCH!!
@selenasmith7943 是啊，当你家的电停了……电灯开关也就不管用了！
@Johannes-x1p
Its for aerodynamics not fashion
是为了空气动力学，不是为了时尚。
@kirkt7452
@DeeMode207 some cook you alive because the doors don't open
@DeeMode207 有些会因为门打不开把你活活烤熟。
@JakeLiberty
They didn't.
It's for aerodynamics...
Kwh/Miles or Km's dude
他们没那么做。
是为了空气动力学……老兄，重点是每度电能跑多少英里或公里。
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@brpang
I knew hidden electrical door handle was a mistake in the first place. Touch screen shift is another.
我从一开始就知道隐藏式电动门把手是个错误。触摸屏换挡是另一个错误。
@stillmagic714
Touch screen anything is such garbage. There's no tactile way to know what you're doing so you have to be distracted to use anything in your car.
触摸屏这种东西简直是垃圾。没有触觉反馈让你知道自己在干什么，所以你不得不分心去操作车里的任何功能。
@CSPGameTime
@stillmagic714 Exactly. If I have to look at the screen to change the climate control or volume it's automatically a major distraction.
@stillmagic714 没错。如果我必须盯着屏幕才能调节空调或音量，那必然会造成严重的注意力分散。
@robertoz3710
@CSPGameTime Volume is on the steering wheel, climate is available with voice. Some people just can't operate a motor vehicle or technology while others can't stop fiddling with it. How you typed your comment I will never know.
@CSPGameTime 音量键在方向盘上，空调可以通过语音控制。有些人就是没法驾驭汽车或科技产品，而有些人则是停不下来地瞎折腾。我真不知道你是怎么打出这条评论的。
@CSPGameTime
@robertoz3710 LMao who wants to control climate with voice? Prime example of "progress" making things worse.
Besides, even if it were a good solution (it isn't) very few cars even do that. Defending a company that's trying to save 10 cents at the expense of safety is peak stupidity.
@robertoz3710 笑死，谁想用语音控制空调？这是“进步”让事情变得更糟的典型例子。
此外，即便这算是个好方案（其实并不是），也很少有车能做到这一点。为一个为了省一毛钱而牺牲安全性的公司辩护，简直是愚蠢至极。
I support this. Let’s also reintroduce physical buttons and knobs where it makes sense.
我支持这一点。让我们也在合理的地方重新引入物理按钮和旋钮。
@magoo9279
Like windows. Nothing more annoying when the motor goes out in the window and no way to roll it up or down.
比如车窗。没有什么比车窗电机坏了，导致没法升降更让人烦恼的了。
@Moon4Raker
@magoo9279 all mechanical operations in the cars never broke down and were the most reliable and user-friendly. NO BATTERY USAGE I am 60+ so I know for a fact
@magoo9279 汽车里的所有机械操作都从未出过故障，而且是最可靠、最人性化的。不需要消耗电池。我60多岁了，所以我很清楚事实就是这样。
@Lortmane
@Moon4Raker You obviously never had a car with roll up windows. They broke down much more often than the electric ones and no, you could not open them when they did, sometimes you could not close them when they broke.
@Moon4Raker 你显然从未拥有过带手摇车窗的车。它们坏掉的频率比电动车窗高得多，而且坏了之后你根本打不开，有时坏了也关不上。
@yxetr3159
@Lortmane 61 year old here. Been driving since I was 16 and never had a mechanical window fail. Have had a power window refuse to close though. I live in Canada and that sucks in the winter
@Lortmane 我今年61岁。从16岁开始开车，从未遇到过机械车窗故障。但我遇到过电动车窗无法关闭的情况。我住在加拿大，在冬天那感觉糟透了。
@heyitsjustaz
@Lortmane yeah the 60 year olds remember their new cars that cost 1200 dollars working great but the 40 year olds who had to deal with them second hand have a very different recollection I guarantee lol
Several of my friends either had whole doors that wouldn't work because the window mechanism was so badly jammed, or were using plastic sheets to cover windows that wouldn't roll back up lol
@Lortmane 是的，60岁的人记得他们那些花1200美元买的新车运行良好，但我保证，那些不得不开二手车的40岁的人记忆完全不同。
我的好几个朋友要么是因为车窗机构卡得太死导致整个车门都废了，要么是在用车门塑料布遮盖那些关不上的车窗。
@a6am3mn0n
@yxetr3159 a single datapoint is not enough to build a statistical model. If its mechanical it can wear out and fail. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean its the norm.
@yxetr3159 你这算单个数据点不足以建立统计模型。只要是机械的，就会磨损并失效。仅仅因为你运气好并不代表这就是常态。
@yxetr3159
@a6am3mn0n Haha wow you take this pretty seriously ! I wasn’t meaning to provide data, I was just passing along an anecdote.
@a6am3mn0n 哈哈，哇，你对此很认真。我并不是想提供数据，我只是在分享一个轶事。
@yxetr3159
@heyitsjustaz I’ve never owned a new car so I also have had to deal with all the failures. It hasn’t happened to me but I do know some whose whole door fell off lol
@heyitsjustaz 我从未拥有过新车，所以我也得处理各种故障。虽然我没遇到过这种情况，但我确实知道有些人的整个车门都掉下来了。
@AlbertHess-xy7ky
@Moon4Raker Window cranks break
@Moon4Raker 车窗手柄也会断。
@Lortmane
@h @heyitsjustaz orry to burst your bubble my friend but this 65 year old got his first car for $100 at 25 and it was a rust bucket with holes in the floor. In fact my first four cars were used and i only got my first brand new one at $25k, a cavalier, because my mom cosigned the loan. I was 28 at the time. And no one i knew, meaning actual friends i frequented, did any better than I did. So it really irritates me when you sort of lump all 60 year olds into this utopian world. But somehow that world existed without me because my friends and even acquaintances weren’t owning homes until their 30s and 40s. So i dont know where that world was but i need a refund.
@h @heyitsjustaz 很抱歉打破你的幻想，我的朋友，但这个65岁的老人在25岁时花了100美元买了第一辆车，那是个地板上有洞的锈铁桶。事实上，我的前四辆车都是二手的，直到28岁我才买到第一辆价值2.5万美元的新车，那是辆骑士，还是因为我妈帮我联署贷款才买成的。
我认识的所有人，也就是我经常交往的朋友，过得并不比我好。所以当你把所有60岁的人都归入那个乌托邦世界时，真的让我很恼火。
但不知何故，那个世界并没有我的份，因为我的朋友甚至熟人直到三四十岁才拥有自己的房子。所以我不知道那个世界在哪，但我需要退款。
@kataru19
When China has higher standards than the US
当中国的标准高于美国时
@NoriegaVibes
@kataru19 The USA is in decline. We’re like a super-buff guy with no brains. We’ve got muscle in our military—but that’s about it. We’re starting to suck at everything else.
@kataru19 美国正在衰落。我们就像一个没有头脑的肌肉男。我们在军事上有肌肉，但也仅此而已。我们在其他所有事情上都开始变得糟糕。
@bazzers
@NoriegaVibes The intentional dismantling of world-leading US science over this past year has been tragic.
@NoriegaVibes 在过去的一年里，美国领先世界的科学领域遭到蓄意拆解，这太悲惨了。
@SRI_J_A_A
@NoriegaVibes Decline by design. planned.
@NoriegaVibes 这种衰落是设计好的。是有计划的。
@chbonnhoff
@bazzers It is the result when good education is +/- only provided by private schools. In CH it is the opposite. Kids visiting private schools most likely failed, aka where not good enough in public schools.
@bazzers 这是优质教育基本只由私立学校提供后的结果。在瑞士情况则相反。上私立学校的孩子很可能是失败者，也就是说在公立学校里不够优秀。
@ontopoftheroof
@kataru19 The U. S. once was leading in consumer protection. Until four decades or so ago when it started to fall behind.
@kataru19 美国曾经在消费者保护方面处于领先地位。直到大约四十年前，它开始落后了。
@epsteinPimpedMelania
@kataru19 we're a third world country. Crumbling infrastructure. Lacking humanity as homeless Bodies freeze in every cold state. 50% increase in animal cruelty.
@kataru19 我们是一个第三世界国家。基础设施崩溃。由于无家可归者的尸体在每个寒冷的州被冻僵，这缺乏人性。虐待动物的行为增加了50%。
@JulianDelphinki
@epsteinPimpedMelaniaWTF? 50% increase in animal cruelty. Almost everything is alarming now a days but that is awful.
@epsteinPimpedMelania 什么？虐待动物的行为增加了50%。如今几乎所有事情都令人担忧，但这实在是太可怕了。
@TheRealMorganParker-s9f
@epsteinPimpedMelania While Evangelicals denounce empathy.
@epsteinPimpedMelania 而福音派信徒则在谴责同理心。
@theosiris4179
Euro NCAP no longer awards 5-star safety ratings when critical controls are digitalized. Turn signals, Hazard lights, Windshield wipers, Horn, and SOS / Emergency call systems are all required to have physical buttons now to reach a 5-star safety rating for cars in Europe.
欧洲新车安全评鉴协会不再为关键控制功能数字化后的车辆授予五星安全评级。现在，转向灯、危险报警灯、雨刷器、喇叭以及SOS紧急呼叫系统都必须配备物理按键，才能在欧洲获得汽车五星安全评级。
@froodtube
Screens aren't necessarily bad, but they need to let you set them up and then the screen stays FIXED when the car is running.
I rent a lot of cars and it amazes me how much more dangerous newer cars are. To change a radio station you have to switch to radio mode from nav mode, then scroll one station at a time and either keep your focus on it or wait all day for auto scroll, then save, go through the loop, then switch back to nav.
You get focused in on the menus instead of focused on the road. Just eliminate any and all menus while driving. If the touch screen let you set to you had radio buttons on bottom, ac on the side, and Nav on the rest it would be fine as long as once its moving, that's what you are stuck with.
屏幕不一定坏，但它们需要让你设置好，然后当车行驶时，屏幕应该保持固定。
我租过很多车，新车竟然变得更危险了，这让我很惊讶。要换个电台，你得从导航模式切换到收音机模式，然后一个一个电台地滚动，要么盯着看，要么等一整天让它自动滚动，然后保存，走完这一圈，再切回导航。
你的注意力全在菜单上，而不是在路面上。驾驶时应该取消所有菜单。如果触摸屏能让你设置好——比如底部是收音机按钮，侧面是空调，其余部分是导航——只要车一动就固定住，那也没问题。
@squidwick8457
I will NOT buy a car if the ac controls are on a screen
如果空调控制是在屏幕上，我绝对不会买这辆车。
@DW-ue1cl
@squidwick8457 huh never thought of that but Thank you I will keep it in mind ❤
@squidwick8457 嘿，以前没想过这一点，但谢谢提醒，我会记住的。
@mranderson4001
I WANT TO MOVE TO China SO BAD FK USA IT IS SO MONEY FIRST NOT SAFETY FIRST IN THE USA ❤❤❤❤
我太想搬到中国去了，去他的美国。在美国，钱永远排第一，安全不是第一位的。
@DW-ue1cl
@mranderson4001I feel that. Big fan of Chinas united progress as a nation on technology and climate adaptation. Unfortunately most Americans, (myself included), are uneducated, unskilled, and rude. So no incentive for other countries to take us in
@mranderson4001 我感同身受。我非常欣赏中国作为一个国家在技术和气候适应方面的统一进步。遗憾的是，大多数美国人（包括我自己）都没受过良好教育、缺乏技能且没礼貌。所以其他国家没有理由接纳我们。
@Derpderpy12
China is beating the US in leaps and bounds. They behave way more capitalistic than the US. Only difference is their government has the power and here it’s the corporations.
中国正在突飞猛进地超越美国。他们表现得比美国更像资本主义。唯一的区别是他们的政府掌握权力，而这里是企业掌握权力。
@douglass220
@Derpderpy12 thats is so true
@Derpderpy12 太对了。
@ms8596
In an emergency, that has to be the absolutely worst thing not being able to open doors because the power fails. Aesthetically, it looks wonderful, functionally not so good.
在紧急情况下，因为断电而无法打开车门绝对是最糟糕的事。视觉上，它看起来很棒，但功能上就没那么好了。
@ontopoftheroof
Except for the knobs in the White House.
除了白宫里的那些“笨蛋”。
@DW-ue1cl
@ontopoftheroof brilliant
@ontopoftheroof 绝了。
@molotovgorl14
YES! No more touch screen dashes
没错！不要再有触摸屏仪表盘了。
@lomein2186
@molotovgorl14 my fav thing to do is force a tesla driver to use their windshield wiper button
@molotovgorl14 我最喜欢做的事就是强迫特斯拉司机去按他们的雨刷按钮。
@SRI_J_A_A
like a physical deadman switch to shut off your car.
就像一个能关掉汽车的物理失能开关。
@lemonz1769
We need to stop buying the designs we don’t like. That’s the only surefire way to get change. If you keep buying buttonless cars they’ll keep making them. You might need to buy a lower end model or a used car.
我们需要停止购买那些我们不喜欢的车型设计。这是确保改变的唯一方法。如果你一直买没有按钮的车，他们就会一直生产。你可能需要买低端车型或二手车。
@chrisray1567
And let’s keep actual side and rear view mirrors instead of cameras.
而且让我们保留真实的侧视镜和后视镜，而不是摄像头。
@JulianDelphinki
How many times did that have to happen for China to care?
这种情况得发生多少次才能引起中国的重视？
@douglass220
@JulianDelphinki . 1 time if it happens to an important person or their relative
@JulianDelphinki 只要发生在一个重要人物或他们的亲属身上，一次就够了。
@smackledorf3614
My 15 year old civic runs great.
The power locks went a few years back. The parts require special order from honda, who has no stock, and the labor estimate was insane.
Of course only one door has a manual key option.
I really dislike a lot of new design choices.
我那辆15年车龄的思域运行良好。
几年前中控锁坏了。零件需要向本田特制，但他们没库存，而且人工费估价高得离谱。
当然，只有一扇门有手动钥匙选项。
我真的很不喜欢现在的很多新设计。
@blocksmithing
And being able to shift into neutral without power
还有在没电的情况下也能挂进空挡。
@shellenwang2361
Can’t agree more!
完全同意！
@TratUsYT
Aerodynamics also
还有空气动力学。
@chknugetdino
See i get it, and i hate evs and dont like the look of these handles, but in a crash theres an almost identical risk of the door getting stuck or not opening with regular handles. I think more than a door handle ban there should be a window breaker requirement. Every vehicle should have a window breaker/seat belt cutter somewhere readily accessible.
我明白，我讨厌电动车，也不喜欢这些把手的外观。但在碰撞中，普通把手卡住或打不开的风险几乎是一样的。我觉得比起禁止某种门把手，更应该强制要求配备破窗器。每辆车都应该在触手可及的地方放置一个破窗器或安全带切割器。
@SubAstray
LIKE F-IN HVAC AND WINDOWS.
就像该死的空调和车窗一样。
@chbonnhoff
100% agree. Period.
百分之百同意。没说的。
@Moon4Raker
same thing with the seats back to mechanical.
座椅也一样，应该回归机械控制。
@TransitTechLA
How about you buy something you want, and i buy what i want? How about that? I want hidden door handles.
不如你买你想要的，我买我想要的？怎么样？我就想要隐藏式门把手。
@doranhamilton7075
Also, spare tire for all vehicles
还有，所有车辆都应该配备备胎。
@HeisenTemu
This! Holy shiet its ass when i have to scroll thru 7 menus trying to change temperature in my car
就是这个！天哪，当我为了调个车内温度得翻七个菜单的时候，真是太烂了。
@doubleslit9513
We use to have a saying when I was working with the government to standardize pcs, servers, network architecture, software, etc. and that saying said : “Never standardize for the sake of standardization”. In other words, if having a standard pc configuration didn’t work for 20% or more of the user base, it shouldn’t be standardized. Same thing goes here if a door handle fails when wet, maybe electric door handles are a bad standard.
我以前在政府部门负责电脑、服务器、网络架构和软件等标准化工作时，有句格言：永远不要为了标准化而标准化。换句话说，如果一个标准的电脑配置对20%或更多的用户不起作用，它就不应该被标准化。这里也一样，如果门把手受潮就失灵，那么电子门把手也许就是一个糟糕的标准。
@fpshooterful
When it comes to CLIMATE control. There better be buttons. I don't know how people do it just with a touch screen, especially with Teslas.
说到空调控制，最好得有按钮。我不知道人们是怎么只用触摸屏操作的，尤其是特斯拉。
@danecarpenter8735
Especially mechanical brakes.
尤其是机械刹车。
@forestpagan4813
@danecarpenter8735 : Fly by wire is another issue, and has been used in cars since the late 1990's. Do you remember those Toyota's that would randomly accelerate uncontrollably?
@danecarpenter8735 线控系统是另一个问题，从20世纪90年代后期就开始应用在汽车上了。你还记得那些会随机失控加速的丰田车吗？
@hey5700
Yeah me to. EU will require more physical buttons soon
我也是。欧盟很快就会要求增加更多的物理按钮。
@geno_purple
Unfortunately touch screens are cheaper while seemig more luxurious to the average consumer so this is unlikely to change soon
不幸的是，触摸屏更便宜，同时在普通消费者眼里显得更豪华，所以这种情况短期内不太可能改变。
@ryanspencer6778
@geno_purple which is why we need regulations. So the corpo rats can't sell us an inferior, dangerous product.
@geno_purple 这就是为什么我们需要监管。这样那些企业的吸血鬼就没法把劣质、危险的产品卖给我们了。
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@ron-johnsmith8367
Imagine making your car a death trap for fashion.
想象一下，为了时尚把汽车变成致命陷阱。
@killerPENGUINZZ
That’s like Elon’s whole M.O.
那基本上就是埃隆马斯克的一贯作风。
@DeeMode207
Mass transit wasn’t profitable enough but they promoted passenger cars
公共交通不够赚钱，所以他们推广私家车。
@TwizzleTown
What an excellent way youve summed up Elon's entire brand.
The worst part is his taste in fashion is awful
你对埃隆整个品牌的总结太精辟了。
最糟糕的是，他的时尚品味还很烂。
@guise6011
@TwizzleTown the door handle isnt for fashion it for efficiency. For better aerodynamic, less drag. Which means, less power needed, which means The electric cars can travel further
@TwizzleTown 这种门把手不是为了时尚，而是为了效率。为了更好的空气动力学和更小的阻力。这意味着需要的能量更少，也意味着电动车可以跑得更远。
@NinjaXryho
@guise6011 That doesn't explain anything. The issue was that the manual override for Teslas required you to be inside. So if the person in the car is unconscious or incapacitated, there's no simple way to open the door. You can make it both aerodynamic and manually operable at the same time.
@guise6011 这根本解释不了任何问题。问题在于特斯拉的手动强制开启开关需要你在车内操作。所以如果车内的人昏迷或丧失行动能力，就没有简单的方法从外面打开门。你完全可以做到既符合空气动力学，同时又能从外部手动操作。
@sv6180
@guise6011 that aerodynamic benefit isn't even that huge .
@guise6011 空气动力学带来的那点好处甚至都没那么大。
@guise6011
@NinjaXryho what you talking about? Most morden cars automatically lock when you drive and they cant be open from the outside until completely parked and opened from inside. This is literally the same so what bs are you talking out? Even the older cars, once locked from the inside, you cant open from the outside
@NinjaXryho 你在说什么呢？大多数现代汽车在行驶时会自动上锁，在完全停稳并从内部开启之前，从外面是打不开的。这本质上是一样的，你在胡扯什么？即使是老旧车型，一旦从内部上锁，你也没法从外面打开。
@guise6011
@sv6180 you dont drive tesla or an electric car do you? There is a reason why their battery efficiency is the best and why everyone is copying their design. People think electric car problem is the range or charging time, but the biggest problem is efficiency, i.e., does 300 miles actually mean 300 miles
@sv6180 你不开特斯拉或者电动车吧？它们的电池效率之所以最高，以及为什么大家都在模仿它们的设计，是有原因的。人们认为电动车的问题在于续航或充电时间，但最大的问题其实是效率，也就是说，标注的300英里续航是不是真的能跑300英里。
@chaosharmonix
@guise6011 It's for manufacturing efficiency more than aerodynamic drag.
@guise6011 这更多是为了制造效率，而不是为了降低空气阻力。
@guise6011
@chaosharmonix same difference
@chaosharmonix 没多大区别。
@MrMannyhw
That’s Elon musk.
这就是埃隆·马斯克。
@BeqaQueue
Lol proudly selling a product that will kill you is America coded
笑死，自豪地推销一款会害死你的产品，这非常美国范儿。
@rioriggs3568
Musk knew it would kill but didn't care!
马斯克知道这会出人命，但他根本不在乎！
@sK0pe-d9b
American companies at work
这就是美国公司的作风。
@orangej5005
imagine selling a death trap to a bunch of misinformed people
想象一下，把一个致命陷阱卖给一群不明真相的人。
@paulgauci4262
That what manufacturers have been doing.
制造商们一直都在这么做。
@paulrr5711
Cars are death traps.
汽车本身就是致命陷阱。
@cPu_lnz
It is due to reducing wind resistance
这是为了减少风阻。
@Samuelaustin
Aerodynamics actually not for fashion.
其实是为了空气动力学，不是为了时尚。
@shadowstalker1515
We call that a fashion over function victim
我们称之为“重时尚轻功能”的受害者。
@ubermenschen3636
Wrong. It’s for saving money. Fatter bottom line.
错了。是为了省钱。为了更丰厚的利润。
@josephrumpsa180
BEAUTY IS PAIN!
美丽是要付出代价的！
@mycardbrokedown5699
Imagine the Chinese of all people giving 2 shits about it before everybody else!!!!
想象一下，竟然是中国人先于所有人开始重视这个问题！
@alrighty6898
@mycardbrokedown5699 they have to if they want to sell their vehicles overseas. There has been many deaths because of their electric vehicles (mostly BYD) catching on fire after a crash and the occupants died with bystanders unable to get them out.
@mycardbrokedown5699 如果他们想把车卖到海外，就必须这么做。已经发生过很多起因他们的电动车（主要是比亚迪）在碰撞后起火导致的死亡事件，乘客丧生是因为旁观者无法将他们救出来。
@guise6011
@alrighty6898 a lot of cars catches on fire when they crash lol. All of a sudden people forget petrol and desiel are fuel
@alrighty6898 很多车在碰撞时都会起火。人们突然间就忘了汽油和柴油也是燃料。
@mycardbrokedown5699
@alrighty6898 yeah but usually the eu or usa issues a warning or a new import rule and then the Chinese are like ... fffiiiiiine we'll do it ... lol
@alrighty6898 是的，但通常是欧盟或美国发布警告或新的进口规则，然后中国人就会说：行吧……我们改就是了。
@brandons7888
More than likely wasn't for fashion. It is for over complication. They need to over engineer something so simple so that way when it breaks it costs an arm and a leg to fix
很可能不是为了时尚。是为了过度复杂化。他们需要把简单的东西设计得极其复杂，这样坏了的时候，修理费就会贵得要命。
@Chris-wg2dp
Self driving cars anyone? Then they self drive them self to a train crossing or a side of a house.
有人要买自动驾驶汽车吗？然后它们会把自己开到铁路道口或者撞到房子侧面。
@chris-st6sm
yeah but driving in China is sorta the same thing no matter what kind of car you have
是啊，但在中国开车，不管你开什么车，情况都差不多。
@selenasmith7943
Its not the door handles its the batteries
问题不在于门把手，而在于电池。
@mannotwiththeplan
@selenasmith7943 When the batteries burn and the car loses power, you can't get out because of THE DOOR HANDLES
@selenasmith7943 当电池燃烧且车辆断电时，正是因为门把手你才出不来。
@cPu_lnz
@mannotwiththeplan i assume you ca get out from the inside but struggle to open from outside
@mannotwiththeplan 我想你应该可以从内部出来，但外面的人很难打开门。
@meyou3353
@selenasmith7943 yeah WHEN THE ELECTRICITY IN YOUR HOUSE STOPS WORKING...SO DOES THE LIGHT SWITCH!!
@selenasmith7943 是啊，当你家的电停了……电灯开关也就不管用了！
@Johannes-x1p
Its for aerodynamics not fashion
是为了空气动力学，不是为了时尚。
@kirkt7452
@DeeMode207 some cook you alive because the doors don't open
@DeeMode207 有些会因为门打不开把你活活烤熟。
@JakeLiberty
They didn't.
It's for aerodynamics...
Kwh/Miles or Km's dude
他们没那么做。
是为了空气动力学……老兄，重点是每度电能跑多少英里或公里。
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@brpang
I knew hidden electrical door handle was a mistake in the first place. Touch screen shift is another.
我从一开始就知道隐藏式电动门把手是个错误。触摸屏换挡是另一个错误。
@stillmagic714
Touch screen anything is such garbage. There's no tactile way to know what you're doing so you have to be distracted to use anything in your car.
触摸屏这种东西简直是垃圾。没有触觉反馈让你知道自己在干什么，所以你不得不分心去操作车里的任何功能。
@CSPGameTime
@stillmagic714 Exactly. If I have to look at the screen to change the climate control or volume it's automatically a major distraction.
@stillmagic714 没错。如果我必须盯着屏幕才能调节空调或音量，那必然会造成严重的注意力分散。
@robertoz3710
@CSPGameTime Volume is on the steering wheel, climate is available with voice. Some people just can't operate a motor vehicle or technology while others can't stop fiddling with it. How you typed your comment I will never know.
@CSPGameTime 音量键在方向盘上，空调可以通过语音控制。有些人就是没法驾驭汽车或科技产品，而有些人则是停不下来地瞎折腾。我真不知道你是怎么打出这条评论的。
@CSPGameTime
@robertoz3710 LMao who wants to control climate with voice? Prime example of "progress" making things worse.
Besides, even if it were a good solution (it isn't) very few cars even do that. Defending a company that's trying to save 10 cents at the expense of safety is peak stupidity.
@robertoz3710 笑死，谁想用语音控制空调？这是“进步”让事情变得更糟的典型例子。
此外，即便这算是个好方案（其实并不是），也很少有车能做到这一点。为一个为了省一毛钱而牺牲安全性的公司辩护，简直是愚蠢至极。
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