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中国如何能造出喷气发动机(以及印度为何做不到)?

驿路遛马 1782
正文翻译
China's journey in aero-engine development has been long and arduous. In 1986, China launched its independent aero-engine program. Despite countless early failures and even casualties, decades of unwavering commitment and investment ultimately led to the successful development of the fully indigenous WS-10 engine in 2019. In contrast, India's similar program failed to achieve success, highlighting the stark difference in determination and execution between the two nations. China's achievement represents not only a technological breakthrough but also the result of decades of sustained investment and sacrifice, revealing the untold hardships behind such success.
中国在航空发动机研发上经历了漫长而艰辛的历程。1986年,中国启动了自主航空发动机计划,尽管初期遭遇了无数失败和人员伤亡,但经过数十年的坚持与投入,最终在2019年成功研制出完全自主的WS-10发动机。相比之下,印度的类似计划却未能成功,反映出两国在决心和执行力上的巨大差异。中国的成功不仅是技术上的突破,更是数十年持续投入与牺牲的结果,展现了成功背后不为人知的艰辛。
评论翻译
@Cellpeg
Success comes from failures. The important thing is not to give up.

成功源于失败。最重要的事情是永不言弃。

@Bidengwee7
Success never comes from failures. Otherwise India will be a world leader today. so stop repeating off stated phrase without thinking

成功绝非源于失败。否则印度今天早就是世界领导者了。所以别再不动脑子地重复这种陈词滥调了。

@laowantongchau
@Bidengwee7 What he means is the consistency of learning from failure until the goal is achieved. Giving up after a few failure will get you nowhere. Get it.

@Bidengwee7 他的意思是持续不断地从失败中学习,直到达成目标。失败几次就放弃只会让你一事无成。明白了吗?

@David-mv6si
@laowantongchau But if you keep failing and do not learn anything, you will never success. That is india.

@laowantongchau 但如果你一直失败且什么都没学到,你永远不会成功。那就是印度。

@greatexpectation6456
@David-mv6si Basically India never learn from it's failures but China learned from their failures.

@David-mv6si 基本上,印度从未从失败中吸取教训,但中国做到了。

@I-N-JY-GD-CNTNT
@Bidengwee7 India either didn't learn from their failures, gave up too easily, or just too corrupt to focus on their obxtives.

@Bidengwee7 印度要么是没从失败中学习,要么是放弃太快,要么就是太腐败了,根本无法专注于目标。

@vxworks66
Success comes from failures ... but never from a system that fails.

成功源于失败……但绝不源于一个失败的体制。

@TakaluKevin
Success comes from failures. That explains why HAL is full of losers who are experts at failing. Modi's giving up on HAL for AMCA is the BEST thing to happen to Indian aviation.

成功源于失败。这解释了为什么印度斯坦航空(HAL)全是擅长失败的失败者。莫迪在 AMCA 项目上放弃 HAL 是印度航空界发生的最棒的事。

@F.Checker
Even the masterpiece Tejas took 4 decades to materialize and without any reliable major components like radar, weaponry and ENGINE too.
But it didn't stop Indians who were brainwashed by their media to brag foolishly. naively and feeling proud too until a brave pilot died for the sake of their arrogance, pride and delusion.
Anyway. India is a country that celebrated with long holidays when they lost major military assets in Op Sindoor. Just like in Galwan clash as 6 years had passed and the China had finally released many video of the clash which it had reluctantly to disclose/elaborate back in 2020. Those running, injured and captured soldiers. Guess who?

即便是所谓的杰作“光辉”(Tejas)战机也花了 40 年才成型,而且没有雷达、武器系统和发动机等任何可靠的核心部件。
但这挡不住那些被媒体洗脑的印度人愚蠢、天真地吹嘘,并感到自豪,直到一名勇敢的飞行员为他们的傲慢、自大和妄想付出了生命代价。
总之,印度是个在“辛杜尔计划”中损失重大军事资产却还要放长假庆祝的国家。就像加勒万冲突一样,6 年过去了,中国终于发布了许多 2020 年时不愿透露的冲突视频。那些奔跑、受伤和被俘的士兵。猜猜是谁?

@lxjilyfe
as a Chinese I thank you sir for mentioning Luo Yang. He will always be in our hearts.

作为一名中国人,我感谢您提到罗阳。他将永远活在我们心中。

@david3549tw
National Hero

民族英雄。

@rohitvarma2708
❤ China is a country of engineers n technicians...Hats OFF ...India a country of Bureaucrats

❤ 中国是一个由工程师和技术人员组成的国家……向其致敬。而印度是一个由官僚组成的国家。

@Ameer-is3dh
@rohitvarma2708 wish India and China work together. One thing i realized indian political system or politicians are never independent. Most of times either get played by emrika or uk. Which is why tension between these two countries often high

@rohitvarma2708 希望中印能合作。我意识到一件事,印度的政治体制或政客从未独立过。大多数时候要么被美国耍,要么被英国耍。这就是为什么两国之间关系经常紧张。

@Abhi-lq7qm
Youtube is banned in China, how do u access it?

YouTube 在中国是被封锁的,你们是怎么上的?

@nextentrepreneur9288
@Abhi-lq7qm It's blocked because they don't follow Chinese law. You just use a VPN to access it. It's technically illegal but practically never strictly enforced

@Abhi-lq7qm 被封是因为他们不遵守中国法律。用 VPN 就能上。技术上虽不合规,但实际上从不严厉强制执行。

@quoc28mytube
@Abhi-lq7qm Banned? While Google has offices in Shanghai and Beijing. Uneducated people soo fast commenting. Microsoft Bing search engine and services in full swing in China til Trump made things uncertain. Now, Europe looks for IT sovereign now.

@Abhi-lq7qm 封禁?谷歌在上海和北京都有办公室。没受过教育的人评论得真快。微软必应搜索和各项服务在中国一直运行良好,直到特朗普搞得局势不明朗。现在,欧洲也在寻求 IT 主权了。

@johnnyleo282
Swarajya you did excellent home work about China self sufficient Jet engine and after 33years and $42 billion well spent the result is in front of the present world.

Swarajya(频道名),你在中国自主研发喷气发动机方面做了出色的功课。经过 33 年和 420 亿美元的投入,成果已展现在世人面前。

@oyecomovaoye9322
There's one US empire propaganda that has been thrown about that needs to be properly addressed: the US sent 2 carriers sailing through the Taiwan Strait, and China couldn't do anything about it, which empire propaganda declared endlessly was a humiliation of China.
First, the Taiwan Strait is over a hundred kilometres wide, and is indisputably international waters. Anyone can sail through it under international law. Second, China didn't have the intention to attack Taiwan militarily, so why should it have attacked the US carriers?
US empire propaganda is getting cheaper by the day. Their propaganda over Gaza, Venezuela and Cuba is truly sickening and shameful.

美国霸权宣传中有一套说辞需要被纠正:美国派两艘航母穿过台湾(地区)海峡,而中国无能为力,霸权媒体没完没了地宣称这是中国的耻辱。
首先,台湾(地区)海峡宽度超过 100 公里,无可争议是国际水域。根据国际法任何人都能通行。其次,中国当时并无军事进攻台湾(地区)的意图,为什么要攻击美国航母?

美帝的宣传越来越廉价了。他们在加沙、委内瑞拉和古巴问题上的宣传真是令人作呕和羞耻。

@bengaldevilbdgr6956
Their so called self sufficient engine is a poorly reverse engineered of the russian jet engine..their tust to weight ratio is terrible..plez check the specs of the engine

他们所谓的自主发动机不过是对俄罗斯发动机的劣质逆向工程……其推重比糟糕透了。请去查查发动机规格。

@hagankeys3610
@bengaldevilbdgr6956 So the Chinese gave you the specs of their fighter jet engines?

@bengaldevilbdgr6956 这么说中国人把战斗机发动机规格告诉你了?

@bengaldevilbdgr6956
@hagankeys3610 The guy from the video must hav rgt?? The data is available on the internet.

@hagankeys3610 视频里那个人肯定有规格吧?网上也都能查到数据。

@prastagus3
@bengaldevilbdgr6956 yes you are using W10A specs that are 17 years old or so. Check the specs on W10b,c, w15, w19, w20

@bengaldevilbdgr6956 是的,你用的是大概 17 年前的 WS-10A 的规格。去查查 WS-10B, C,还有 WS-15, WS-19, WS-20 的规格吧。

@sujithsom5459
he is a fool to think India cannot do
Kaveri engine is perfect as proven by russian flight test
It has not blown up in testing
Only issue is it lacks thrust to lift 4000 kg weapon loaded jet
But it was meant to lift 2500 kg weapons to replace mig 21
It's was deliberate subversion by corrupt IAF officials, defence ministry babus
And incompetent hal officials who foolishly keep getting fooled by American company who don't deliver

觉得印度做不到的人真是傻瓜。俄罗斯试飞证明了卡弗里(Kaveri)发动机是完美的,它在测试中没有爆炸。
唯一的问题是推力不足,带不动挂载 4000 公斤武器的战机。但它原本的设计目标就是挂载 2500 公斤武器来替换米格-21。
这是被腐败的空军官员、国防部官僚和无能的 HAL 官员故意破坏的,他们愚蠢地一直被那家不交货的美国公司耍。

@Bruce-x4x
Who says India aren't great at something? They can pat their own backs and brag very well.

谁说印度不擅长某事?他们非常擅长自我表扬和吹牛。

@dustarian
Best at boasting and giving excuses for their mistakes... they would have accomplished more if they talk less, and put in more effort...

最擅长自夸和为错误找借口……如果他们少说多做,成就肯定比现在大。

@SiddharthAttri-x1p2e
@dustarian we have accomplished more than your army controlled and terrorists harbouring nation in every parameter from economy to military.

@dustarian 无论是经济还是军事,我们在每一项指标上的成就都超过了你们那个由军队控制、窝藏恐怖分子的国家。

@Stitch_Go_Gai_Gai
dont forget they are good at printing Degree Master Degree and even PHD certificate. maybe the engr they have on the programe had one from the good printer

别忘了他们还擅长打印本科、硕士甚至博士证书。也许项目中那些工程师的学历都是从好打印机里出来的。

@merrick6484
And 10 days National Celebrating when lost a war.

还有打输了仗还要全国庆祝 10 天。

@CGLow-r5s
They must all do yoga, thats why they have such flexible arms and shoulders that they can pat themselves on the back.

他们肯定都练瑜伽,所以手臂和肩膀才那么灵活,能反手给自己拍背(指自我表扬)。

@joeblodontchno5309
@CGLow-r5s India civilized China & the rest of the world.. Indians created mathematics & science & taught the Chinese & rest of the world

@CGLow-r5s 印度开化了中国和世界其他地区。印度人创造了数学和科学,并教给了中国和世界。

India is the oldest continuous civilization where Chinese, Greeks, Persians and south east Asian students used to come to study in Universities such as Takshashila and Nalanda. Both these Universities were established 2500 and 1500 years back respectively.

印度是最古老的连续文明,中国、希腊、波斯和东南亚的学生曾到塔克西拉和那烂陀等大学学习。这两所大学分别建于 2500 年前和 1500 年前,是古代世界最古老的大学。

These two were the oldest universities in the ancient world. The Chinese have gone on record to say "India has culturally colonized China for 2000 years".. most of ancient Chinese & world knowledge & culture came from india.. like Buddhism, Hinduism, Sanskrit,

中国人曾公开说过“印度在文化上殖民了中国 2000 年”。古代中国和世界的大部分知识文化源自印度:如佛教、印度教、梵文;

Mathematics-- the modern numerical system (wrongly called arabic numerals) & concept of zero, Geometry (including Baudhayana's theorem, wrongly called pythagoras), Algebra, Calculus (long before newton or liebniz,) etc all originated in india..

数学——现代数字系统(被误称为阿拉伯数字)及零的概念、几何(包括被误称为勾股定理的宝达衍那定理)、代数、微积分(远早于牛顿或莱布尼茨)等全部起源于印度;

Astronomy, medicine, chess, yoga, martial arts, tai chi etc all originated in india.. Hanuman from Indian culture was copied as Sun Wukong & has remained the best-loved and most enduring character in Chinese literature and folklore.

天文学、医学、象棋、瑜伽、武术、太极等也都起源于印度。印度文化中的哈奴曼被抄袭成了孙悟空,并成为中国文学和民俗中最受喜爱的长青形象。

@hongkongpong5588
❤❤❤❤❤.... R. I. P... those engineers that died for China progress.. ❤❤❤❤❤

❤❤❤❤❤……愿那些为中国进步而牺牲的工程师安息……❤❤❤❤❤

@lungduan240
As a Chinese, I am 100% against single party no election system. But 100% proud of Chinese engineers effort on the jet engine.

作为一名中国人,我 100% 反对单一政党、无选举的体制。但我 100% 为中国工程师在喷气发动机上的努力感到自豪。

@boliu3540
@lungduan240 The system itself is neither right nor wrong; it only matters whether it fits your nation.

@lungduan240 体制本身无所谓对错,重要的是它是否适合你的国家。

@lghsieh8860
@lungduan: As Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada, said at Davos couple of weeks ago, instead of playing rituals, you can take your "Democracy, Freedom" sign out from your window.

@lungduan: 正如几周前加拿大官员在达沃斯所言,与其玩弄仪式感,不如把窗口挂着的“民主、自由”牌子摘下来。

@Kristoferzhong
@lungduan240 The electoral system creates false promises, empty promises and policy confusion. Democratic rights are granted every four or five years, only to be rewarded with endless political squabbles, bringing disaster to the country and making the people increasingly impoverished.

@lungduan240 选举制度制造了虚假承诺、空头支票和政策混乱。民主权利每四五年赐予一次,换来的却是无休止的政治争吵,给国家带来灾难,让人民日益贫困。

@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
@lungduan240 I have news for you. We in the USA also have one party system - the Deep State who answers to no one.

@lungduan240 告诉你个新消息,我们在美国也是一党制——那个不对任何人负责的“深层政府”。

@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
In China ,the government truly serves the people. In the USA , the government steals from the people and feeds the rich. Get a clue. Election is just a show. You choose a candidate from a sextion of the Deep State puppets. We have no say.

在中国,政府真心为人民服务。在美国,政府从百姓手中偷钱去喂肥富人。醒醒吧。选举只是一场秀。你只是从一堆“深层政府”的傀儡中选一个。我们根本没话语权。

@felakawilam5747
@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd in India Cows and cow dung are still the main talk of our political leaders

@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd 在印度,牛和牛粪依然是我们政治领袖谈论的主旋律。

@prastagus3
@lungduan240 learn from the failure of democracy and elections. They don’t mean anything if it becomes a pony show instead of actual progress

@lungduan240 从民主和选举的失败中学习吧。如果它们变成了走秀而不是实际的进步,那就毫无意义。

@pahatpahat9566
@lungduan240 So you think, the so-called democratic process as practiced today can solve all the frustrations of the people?

@lungduan240 所以你认为,现行的所谓民主程序能解决人民所有的挫折感吗?

@zackwang9314
When people say they are proud of their country Chinese actually do what they say and are willing sacrifice their lives for their country. While people from other countries only say they love their country with their mouths and immigrate to a developed country for a better life in a heartbeat

当中国人说为国自豪时,他们是真的在践行诺言,并愿意为国牺牲。而其他国家的人只在嘴上说爱国,转头就移民去发达国家追求更好的生活。

@leBron-l3l
The biggest dream of every indian man is to leave India

每个印度男人最大的梦想就是离开印度。

@zf2000
Chinese do what they say and Indians believe anything their movies tell them.

中国人言出必行,印度人则是电影演什么就信什么。

@mikec5054
When the C government says work you work or else.

C政府叫你工作,你就得工作,否则没好果子吃。

@RattlerSSBN
...and that's why so many CN people have moved as much money as possible, and their relatives (if possible) out of CN.

……这就是为什么那么多中国人尽可能把钱和亲属搬出中国。

@marvinfok65
@RattlerSSBN It is the same everywhere. Those who are rich have no love for their own country. Their only love is money. It is always the average folks who are willing to even die for their country. Look at all the billionaires in the world, they transfer their money out of their own country and squeeze the last dollar from the society.

@RattlerSSBN 哪儿都一样。那些富人不爱国家,只爱钱。愿意为国捐躯的永远是普通民众。看看全世界的亿万富翁,他们把钱转出本国,榨干社会的每一分钱。

@depppp-i9g
@RattlerSSBN Those who changed the country have never been those billionaires, but some genius who buried their heads and hid their identities to work for the betterment of China's military advancement.

@RattlerSSBN 改变国家的人从来不是那些亿万富翁,而是那些埋头苦干、隐姓埋名为中国军事进步贡献才智的天才。

@dilipsharma3878
Import GE engines, mount them on frx and claim indigenous technology and again name it "Tejas"

进口通用(GE)发动机,安在机架上,然后声称是自主技术,再起名叫“光辉”。

@mikeng8487
India talk the talk always. While China quietly walk the walk, a testimony to both cultures

印度总是在空谈,中国则是默默践行。这是两种文化的见证。

@zf2000
Indians also make propaganda movies and believe them to be true.

印度人也拍宣传片,而且还信以为真。

@RajeshRavindranathan
@zf2000 For sure, that is the definition of propaganda, regardless whether its India or any other country's propaganda. :)

@zf2000 没错,这就是宣传的定义,无论是印度还是任何国家的宣传都一样。:)

@AS-zq7vz
Yup, walks into secured U.S. networks and steals the technology.....

是啊,黑进美国的安全网络偷走技术……

@Herewatching
@AS-zq7vz keep the ignorant buddy, it’s good for your mental health

@AS-zq7vz 哥们你继续保持无知吧,对心理健康有好处。

@AS-zq7vz
@Herewatching nah, I'll keep the reality and my sanity...thx though

@Herewatching 不了,我还是保持现实感和理智吧……谢谢。

@Herewatching
@A @AS-zq7vz if the way you painted them as thefts and somehow the US must have better tech for them to steal is your reality, you’re high as a kite buddy, my 2 cents is don’t skip your meds

@AS-zq7vz 如果你把他们描绘成小偷,且认为美国肯定有更好的技术让他们偷,这就是你的“现实”,那你真是病得不轻。听我一劝,别停药。

@couponscyber
C is dictator country, but India not. More over, they wont respect the IP rights of other country, just reverse.

C是DC国家,印度不是。此外,他们不尊重别国知识产权,只会逆向工程。

@VThamilarasan
@couponscyber What a joke. If you think india is a democracy with EVM, your ignorance is endless!

@couponscyber 真是笑话。如果你觉得用了电子投票机(EVM)的印度就是民主国家,那你的无知简直无边无际。

@RajeshRavindranathan
@couponscyber India might be a democracy but it's in all sense of the word - a failed democracy just like USA. I rather have a prosperous dicatorship than a failed democracy.

@couponscyber 印度也许是民主国家,但它从任何意义上说都是个失败的民主国家,就像美国一样。我宁愿要一个繁荣的独裁体制,也不要一个失败的民主。

@ysgoh1981
A tale of sheer determination and national will

这是一个关于坚定决心和国家意志的故事。

@F.Checker
On the contrary, billions spent to serve a few with a self-made Boogeyman for arrogance, ignorance, pride and a delusion.

相反,投入数十亿资金只为服务少数人,还自造一个假想敌,全是出于傲慢、无知、虚荣和妄想。

@henryng9406
@F.Checker Pretend Chinese aircraft carriers are off the west coast of Murrikkka & Uncle Sam can't do a thing about it.....tell us what you think then.

@F.Checker 想象一下,如果中国航母出现在美国西海岸而山姆大叔无能为力……告诉我你到时候会怎么想。

@danwelterweight4137
A meritocracy based system in which leaders have the room to make long term plans for 10, 20, 30 years ahead will always produce better results than a system based on a popularity contest in which leaders have to make plans based on election cycles that take place every 4 or 5 years.

一个基于精英治理、领导人有空间制定 10、20、30 年长期计划的体制,其结果永远优于那种基于人气竞赛、领导人必须围绕四五年选举周期制定计划的体制。

@ALWH1314
Mr. Modi has been in office since 2014, almost as long as *. Where is his long term plan?

莫迪自 2014 年执政,时间和***差不多长。他的长期计划在哪?

@ALWH1314
Is this a Chinese channel using Indian accent AI voice? I don’t believe any Indian channel would praise Chinese in this manner.

这是个用印度口音 AI 配音的中国频道吗?我不相信任何印度频道会以这种方式赞美中国。

@ckck-w1v
But according to Indian jokers, democracy is 'responsive' to what voters want. In 1950 India's per capita GDP was higher than China's. Today, it is 1/5th China's and 1/3rd Tibet's. Perhaps Indian voters wanted GDP lower than Tibetans to make Chinese communists look good.

但按照印度的跳梁小丑所说,民主对选民需求有“响应”。1950 年印度的人均 GDP 高于中国。今天,它只有中国的五分之一,*Z的三分之一。也许印度选民就是想要 GDP 比*Z还低,好衬托出中国***的优秀。

@esphilee
USA politicians were sponsored by the business elites. They only serve the interests of the business elites.

美国政客是由商业精英资助的。他们只为商业精英的利益服务。

@hongkongpong5588
... R. I. P... He poured his soul into this project.. ❤❤❤

……愿他安息……他为这个项目倾注了灵魂。❤❤❤

@F.Checker
China works hard humbly while India brags continuously, naively and arrogantly in delusion! Next might be thinking of becoming a true European too....!

中国在谦卑地努力,印度却在妄想中不断天真且傲慢地吹嘘。下一步可能在考虑成为真正的欧洲人吧……!

@PareshPatel-t3n
Yes, colonial rule made Indian elites think more like European and they think they are Europeans. English is considered Gold standard in when success and social status is measured.

没错,殖民统治让印度精英思维更像欧洲人,甚至觉得自己就是欧洲人。衡量成功和社会地位时,英语被视为金科玉律。

@vikinger333
You are totally right. The decade long hard work and the commitment of thousands of Chinese engineers

你完全正确。这是数千名中国工程师长达十年的辛勤工作和奉献的成果。

@leBron-l3l
The biggest dream of every indian man is to leave India

每个印度男人最大的梦想就是离开印度。

@sunmoon1234
When Children of most Indian politicians are american citizens, then why would Indian politicians be loyal to India.

当大多数印度政客的孩子都是美国公民时,印度政客凭什么会对印度忠诚?

@ahmedistiak
Extraordinary

非凡。

@FrankZhang-pj9nn
most of Indian and west still think China jet engine still has quality concern or reliability issue. but that's not true. in 2017 Zhuhai airshow, China J-10B TVC demonstrated the "fallen leaves", "J-turn", "Super-cobra" during the airshow. you can find lots of VDs from youtube. the chief engineer of J-36 who is also the chief engineer of J-10C said J-10B TVC is only fighter jet with single jet engine (WS-10B) in the world can demonstrate "fallen leaves", "J-turn" and "Super-cobra" during the airshow. he is right. the rest who can demonstrate TVC function during the airshow is two-engines jet such as Su-35, Su-30 and Su-57. etc. Indian Tejas with single jet engine even can't show off during parades. this shows us how Chinese are confident with their own TVC jet engine WS-10B used on J-10B

大多数印度人和西方人仍认为中国发动机存在质量或可靠性问题。但这并非事实。在 2017 年珠海航展上,中国歼-10B TVC(矢量推力版)展示了“落叶飘”、“J型转弯”和“超级眼镜蛇”动作。你可以在 YouTube 找到很多视频。歼-10C 的总师说,歼-10B TVC 是世界上唯一能在航展中展示这些动作的单发战机(使用 WS-10B 矢量发动机)。他是对的。其他能在航展展示矢量功能的都是双发机,如苏-35、苏-30 和苏-57 等。印度的单发“光辉”战机甚至在阅兵时都无法展示这些。这说明了中国人对自己用在歼-10B 上的 WS-10B 矢量发动机多么有信心。

@zhuwang5481
India also showed a "fallen leaf", but unfortunately the leaf fell to the ground.

印度也展示了“落叶飘”,不幸的是,那片“叶子”直接飘到了地上(指坠机)。

@nininersnation3298
India is more impressive!! Their tejas slammed very hard into the ground at the Dubai air show!!

印度更令人印象深刻!他们的“光辉”在迪拜航展上狠狠地摔在了地上!

@RelentlessGhost-u1r
yeah , your engines don't have problems, that's why pakistan buys jf17 with russian engines.

是啊,你们的发动机没问题,所以巴基斯坦才买装俄罗斯发动机的枭龙(JF-17)。

@FrankZhang-pj9nn
@RelentlessGhost-u1r that's why you knew nothing about China. JF17 used RD33 engine, China has the same level engine called WS13, the next GEN to replace WS13 is called WS21, the next next GEN to replace WS21 is called WS19. both WS21 and WS19 are only available after 2020. WS19 is the engine for J-35. per the data from Singapore airshow, WS19 can generate 11.5 ton thrust, the thrust weight ratio is 11 which is above GE F414 engine and British EJ200 engine. WS13 isn't so good, I understood why they used RD33 engine at that time frx.

@RelentlessGhost-u1r 这说明你对中国一无所知。枭龙早期用 RD33,中国同级的是 WS-13。WS-13 的下一代替代者是 WS-21,再下一代是 WS-19。WS-21 和 WS-19 都是 2020 年后才面世的。WS-19 是歼-35 的发动机。根据新加坡航展数据,WS-19 推力达 11.5 吨,推重比为 11,超过了美国通用 F414 和英国 EJ200 发动机。WS-13 确实不算太好,我理解为什么那个时期他们(巴基斯坦)选择用 RD33。

@FrankZhang-pj9nn
@RelentlessGhost-u1r BTW I can tell you there are only three countries can build TVC engine, US, Russian and China. there are only three countries can build heavy thrust engine such as GE F-110, GE-F129 and GE F-135 engine (US). AL-31, AL-41 engine (Russia), WS-10, WS15 engine (China). both M88 and EJ-200 engine are medium thrust engine. both France and British even don't have heavy fight jet such as F-15, J-16, Su-30, F-22 and J-20.

@RelentlessGhost-u1r 顺便告诉你,世界上只有三个国家能造矢量发动机:美、俄、中。只有三个国家能造大推力发动机,如美国的 F-110, F-129, F-135;俄罗斯的 AL-31, AL-41;中国的 WS-10, WS-15。法国的 M88 和英国的 EJ-200 都是中等推力发动机。英法甚至都没有像 F-15, 歼-16, 苏-30, F-22 和歼-20 这种重型战斗机。

 
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