[出于好奇]你认为印度的年轻一代有越来越高吗？
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[Out of curiosity] Do you think Indians are getting taller in the younger generations?
[出于好奇]你认为印度的年轻一代有越来越高吗？
[Out of curiosity] Do you think Indians are getting taller in the younger generations?
[出于好奇]你认为印度的年轻一代有越来越高吗？
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jakewang1
My protein intake increased a lot once I started earning. Our vegetarian diet does not give enough protein. And is high in carbs.
我开始挣钱后，蛋白质的摄入量增加了很多。我们的素食并没有提供足够的蛋白质。而且碳水化合物含量高。
I'm 41 years old guy who's 6 foot 1 inch. Im my generation I rarely see (or saw while growing up), any guy who was more than 6 feet. But I do seem to notice a lot more taller guys amongst the younger folks.
Do you guys think or is there any evidence that with greater income and food availability in India, the average height is increasing?
P.s 1 : I feel its especially true for women. In my generation I'd rarely see women more than 5 foot 4. But in younger generation, I see so many girls who are 5 foot 7.
P.s 2: I got this idea because i realised few days back what whenever we talk of people from China or other South Asian countries, we generally assume they're really shorter than Indians. That got me curious and I googled a bit. And it seems the average height of lots of those countries like China, South Korea is actually more than Indians. In fact china's average height for men has increased by 2.5 inches in the last 30 years due to economic prosperity and South Koreans are lot larger than North Koreans in just 50 odd years of difference in nutrition / prosperity etc.
我已经41岁了，身高6英尺1英寸（1米85）。我这一代人很少看到（或在成长过程中看到）任何超过6英尺（1米8）的人。但我现在确实注意到在年轻人中，有很多高个子的人。
你们是否认为或有任何证据表明，随着印度的收入和食物供应的增加，平均身高也在增加？
P.s 1 : 我觉得这对女性来说尤其如此。在我这一代，我很少看到女性超过5英尺4英寸（1米62）。但在年轻一代，我看到很多女孩都是5英尺7英寸（1米7）。
P.s 2: 我有这个想法是因为我几天前意识到，每当我们谈论来自中国或其他南亚国家的人时，我们通常认为他们真的比印度人矮。这引起了我的好奇心，我上网查了一下。发现很多国家如中国、韩国的平均身高实际上比印度人高。事实上，由于经济繁荣，中国男性的平均身高在过去30年里增加了2.5英寸（6.35厘米），而韩国人因为在营养/繁荣等方面的差异，在短短50多年里就比朝鲜人高大了很多。
Do you guys think or is there any evidence that with greater income and food availability in India, the average height is increasing?
P.s 1 : I feel its especially true for women. In my generation I'd rarely see women more than 5 foot 4. But in younger generation, I see so many girls who are 5 foot 7.
P.s 2: I got this idea because i realised few days back what whenever we talk of people from China or other South Asian countries, we generally assume they're really shorter than Indians. That got me curious and I googled a bit. And it seems the average height of lots of those countries like China, South Korea is actually more than Indians. In fact china's average height for men has increased by 2.5 inches in the last 30 years due to economic prosperity and South Koreans are lot larger than North Koreans in just 50 odd years of difference in nutrition / prosperity etc.
我已经41岁了，身高6英尺1英寸（1米85）。我这一代人很少看到（或在成长过程中看到）任何超过6英尺（1米8）的人。但我现在确实注意到在年轻人中，有很多高个子的人。
你们是否认为或有任何证据表明，随着印度的收入和食物供应的增加，平均身高也在增加？
P.s 1 : 我觉得这对女性来说尤其如此。在我这一代，我很少看到女性超过5英尺4英寸（1米62）。但在年轻一代，我看到很多女孩都是5英尺7英寸（1米7）。
P.s 2: 我有这个想法是因为我几天前意识到，每当我们谈论来自中国或其他南亚国家的人时，我们通常认为他们真的比印度人矮。这引起了我的好奇心，我上网查了一下。发现很多国家如中国、韩国的平均身高实际上比印度人高。事实上，由于经济繁荣，中国男性的平均身高在过去30年里增加了2.5英寸（6.35厘米），而韩国人因为在营养/繁荣等方面的差异，在短短50多年里就比朝鲜人高大了很多。
gorilla_photos
Majority of girl in my class even into college days appeared malnutritioned. Now that is changing in middle class families too.
我班上的大多数女孩甚至到了大学时代都出现了营养不良的情况。现在，中产阶级家庭也在发生变化。
Majority of girl in my class even into college days appeared malnutritioned. Now that is changing in middle class families too.
我班上的大多数女孩甚至到了大学时代都出现了营养不良的情况。现在，中产阶级家庭也在发生变化。
nandu_sabka_bandhoo
Which is a good thing!!
这是件好事！!
Which is a good thing!!
这是件好事！!
Ok_Status7790
Actually, in the united states height grew around 1950s due to better food. So, yeah, better food availability is know to raise average height, though I think some peoples are naturally tall like the vikings, so food isn't the only determination of height, but they correlate.
其实在美国，平均身高在1950年代左右增长，因为有更好的食物。所以，是的，大家知道更好的食物供应会提高平均身高，尽管我认为有些人天生就很高，比如维京人，所以食物并不是决定身高的唯一因素，但它们确实是有联系的。
Actually, in the united states height grew around 1950s due to better food. So, yeah, better food availability is know to raise average height, though I think some peoples are naturally tall like the vikings, so food isn't the only determination of height, but they correlate.
其实在美国，平均身高在1950年代左右增长，因为有更好的食物。所以，是的，大家知道更好的食物供应会提高平均身高，尽管我认为有些人天生就很高，比如维京人，所以食物并不是决定身高的唯一因素，但它们确实是有联系的。
Conscious-Elk
Approximately 18% of Indian men are 6 ft and above (atleast in urban areas). Once I got curious and scrapped data from a few popular matrimonial sites
And roughly 4% of sample population earned over 20L per annum. 10% of sample population had master's degree or above. Obviously, this is not rigorous as there might be sampling bias and people exaggerating their stats.
大约18%的印度男人在6英尺（1米8）及以上（至少在城市地区是这样）。有一次我对这个很好奇，所以从几个流行的婚姻网站上搜出了数据
而大约4%的样本人口年收入超过20L（这个“L”没查出是多少）。10%的样本人口拥有硕士或以上学位。当然了，这份数据并不严谨，因为可能存在抽样偏差和人们夸大他们的统计数字。
Approximately 18% of Indian men are 6 ft and above (atleast in urban areas). Once I got curious and scrapped data from a few popular matrimonial sites
And roughly 4% of sample population earned over 20L per annum. 10% of sample population had master's degree or above. Obviously, this is not rigorous as there might be sampling bias and people exaggerating their stats.
大约18%的印度男人在6英尺（1米8）及以上（至少在城市地区是这样）。有一次我对这个很好奇，所以从几个流行的婚姻网站上搜出了数据
而大约4%的样本人口年收入超过20L（这个“L”没查出是多少）。10%的样本人口拥有硕士或以上学位。当然了，这份数据并不严谨，因为可能存在抽样偏差和人们夸大他们的统计数字。
nandu_sabka_bandhoo
OP
Lol ..... consider the fact that lots of Indian men lie about height on matrimonial sites. In my experience, many people who are 5'10" claim they're 6 feet. I once had a friend like that. He was 5 foot 10 but claimed he was 6 foot and told me I wrongly consider myself 6 foot 1 and I'm 6 foot 4 (I'm not) !!
哈哈.....考虑到很多印度男人在婚恋网站上谎报身高的事实。根据我的经验，很多身高5英尺10英寸（1米75）的人声称自己是6英尺。我曾经有一个这样的朋友。他是5英尺10英寸，但声称自己是6英尺，并告诉我，我错误地认为自己是6英尺1英寸，其实我是6英尺4英寸（我没那么高）！！
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OP
Lol ..... consider the fact that lots of Indian men lie about height on matrimonial sites. In my experience, many people who are 5'10" claim they're 6 feet. I once had a friend like that. He was 5 foot 10 but claimed he was 6 foot and told me I wrongly consider myself 6 foot 1 and I'm 6 foot 4 (I'm not) !!
哈哈.....考虑到很多印度男人在婚恋网站上谎报身高的事实。根据我的经验，很多身高5英尺10英寸（1米75）的人声称自己是6英尺。我曾经有一个这样的朋友。他是5英尺10英寸，但声称自己是6英尺，并告诉我，我错误地认为自己是6英尺1英寸，其实我是6英尺4英寸（我没那么高）！！
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anotherjones07
Not just on matrimonial sites I've noticed people lie about height in general. I'm 6'4" and often see dudes at the gym claim 6'3" when they're barely 6. I say I'm 6' just to mess with them xD
不仅仅是在婚恋网站上，我注意到大家对于身高普遍在撒谎。我身高6英尺4英寸，经常在健身房看到一些人声称自己身高6英尺3英寸，而他们的身高其实还不到6英尺，我说我是6英尺，只是为了逗他们开心。xD
Not just on matrimonial sites I've noticed people lie about height in general. I'm 6'4" and often see dudes at the gym claim 6'3" when they're barely 6. I say I'm 6' just to mess with them xD
不仅仅是在婚恋网站上，我注意到大家对于身高普遍在撒谎。我身高6英尺4英寸，经常在健身房看到一些人声称自己身高6英尺3英寸，而他们的身高其实还不到6英尺，我说我是6英尺，只是为了逗他们开心。xD
gorilla_photos
People eat high protein diet now as average incomes are raised. I cringe thinking about diet I had growing up in a vegetarian family. I dont think I had a balanced diet in protein and outside food was rare due to affordability. Panner and stuff was for special occasions etc.
随着平均收入的提高，人们现在都是高蛋白饮食了。想起我在一个素食家庭长大的时候的饮食，真是一阵害怕。我根本没有均衡的蛋白质饮食，因为负担不起，能买到的食物也很少。坡尼尔和其他类似的东西只有特殊场合才吃得上。
People eat high protein diet now as average incomes are raised. I cringe thinking about diet I had growing up in a vegetarian family. I dont think I had a balanced diet in protein and outside food was rare due to affordability. Panner and stuff was for special occasions etc.
随着平均收入的提高，人们现在都是高蛋白饮食了。想起我在一个素食家庭长大的时候的饮食，真是一阵害怕。我根本没有均衡的蛋白质饮食，因为负担不起，能买到的食物也很少。坡尼尔和其他类似的东西只有特殊场合才吃得上。
jakewang1
My protein intake increased a lot once I started earning. Our vegetarian diet does not give enough protein. And is high in carbs.
我开始挣钱后，蛋白质的摄入量增加了很多。我们的素食并没有提供足够的蛋白质。而且碳水化合物含量高。
ThinkTank-SB
true true
很真实
true true
很真实
nandu_sabka_bandhoo
OP
I know a few vegetarian families here in UK who are getting their kids to eat eggs now ... because thankfully understand that protein in diet is very important.
I also had friends who are vegetarians who used to eat lots of spinach, mushrooms, dal (lentils), milk for his protein intake.
Tofu is also major source of protein but unfortunately if not made properly, it tastes like shoe !!
我认识一些英国的素食家庭，他们现在在让他们的孩子吃鸡蛋......因为幸好他们明白饮食中的蛋白质是非常重要的。
我也有是素食主义者的朋友，他曾经吃很多菠菜、蘑菇、豆类（扁豆）、牛奶来摄取蛋白质。
豆腐也是蛋白质的主要来源，但不幸的是，如果做得不好，它的味道就像鞋子一样！！
OP
I know a few vegetarian families here in UK who are getting their kids to eat eggs now ... because thankfully understand that protein in diet is very important.
I also had friends who are vegetarians who used to eat lots of spinach, mushrooms, dal (lentils), milk for his protein intake.
Tofu is also major source of protein but unfortunately if not made properly, it tastes like shoe !!
我认识一些英国的素食家庭，他们现在在让他们的孩子吃鸡蛋......因为幸好他们明白饮食中的蛋白质是非常重要的。
我也有是素食主义者的朋友，他曾经吃很多菠菜、蘑菇、豆类（扁豆）、牛奶来摄取蛋白质。
豆腐也是蛋白质的主要来源，但不幸的是，如果做得不好，它的味道就像鞋子一样！！
SleepingBeautyFumino
I'm a Jain so I'm 100% pure vegetarian. The height thing is true for almost everyone at least from my personal experience.
My Dadaji grew up poor and he was 5'2 or 3 only.
My Father grew up in better conditions and he's like 5'8.
I'm 6ft. As the income and nutrition of Indians rises the next generation will grow taller until we hit the limit.
我是一个耆那教徒，所以我是100%的纯素食者。至少从我的个人经验来看，身高几乎是每个人的问题。
我的祖父从小就很穷，他只有5英尺2或3英寸。
我父亲在较好的条件下长大，他大概有5英尺8英寸。
我是6英尺。随着印度人的收入和营养水平的提高，下一代人的身高会越来越高，直到我们达到极限。
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I'm a Jain so I'm 100% pure vegetarian. The height thing is true for almost everyone at least from my personal experience.
My Dadaji grew up poor and he was 5'2 or 3 only.
My Father grew up in better conditions and he's like 5'8.
I'm 6ft. As the income and nutrition of Indians rises the next generation will grow taller until we hit the limit.
我是一个耆那教徒，所以我是100%的纯素食者。至少从我的个人经验来看，身高几乎是每个人的问题。
我的祖父从小就很穷，他只有5英尺2或3英寸。
我父亲在较好的条件下长大，他大概有5英尺8英寸。
我是6英尺。随着印度人的收入和营养水平的提高，下一代人的身高会越来越高，直到我们达到极限。
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AlMightyM
Shoe tastes better.
鞋子的味道都更好。
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Shoe tastes better.
鞋子的味道都更好。
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TheMailmanic
How does protein impact height
蛋白质怎么会影响身高
How does protein impact height
蛋白质怎么会影响身高
Thisconnected
Even then paneer really isn't that healthy or rotein rich :/
话虽如此，坡尼尔真的既不健康，也没多少蛋白质:/
Even then paneer really isn't that healthy or rotein rich :/
话虽如此，坡尼尔真的既不健康，也没多少蛋白质:/
arcumnequi
https://keevs.com/healthguide/paneer-nutrition-facts-100g/
Yes, it lacks some of the essential amino acids, but it would be wrong to say its not healthy or protein rich. I believe it's still better for us, as a society, than bovine meat, all things considered.
https://keevs.com/healthguide/paneer-nutrition-facts-100g/
是的，它缺乏一些必要的氨基酸，但如果说它不健康或不富含蛋白质，那你就错了。我相信对我们来说，作为一个社会，考虑到一切，它仍然比牛肉更好。
https://keevs.com/healthguide/paneer-nutrition-facts-100g/
Yes, it lacks some of the essential amino acids, but it would be wrong to say its not healthy or protein rich. I believe it's still better for us, as a society, than bovine meat, all things considered.
https://keevs.com/healthguide/paneer-nutrition-facts-100g/
是的，它缺乏一些必要的氨基酸，但如果说它不健康或不富含蛋白质，那你就错了。我相信对我们来说，作为一个社会，考虑到一切，它仍然比牛肉更好。
Thisconnected
Problem with paneer is the high fat content associated with it. Add to which most animals are grainfed not grass fed nowadays. Also the casein in paneer has a much lower biological value than whey or egg Paneer might be ok if you're strictly Vegetarian but doesn't compare to non veg sources
脂肪含量高是坡尼尔的问题所在。现在大多数动物都是谷物喂养，而不是草喂养。此外，坡尼尔中的酪蛋白的生物价值比乳清或鸡蛋低得多。 如果你是严格的素食主义者，坡尼尔的营养也许还可以，但没办法跟非素食营养来源相比。
Problem with paneer is the high fat content associated with it. Add to which most animals are grainfed not grass fed nowadays. Also the casein in paneer has a much lower biological value than whey or egg Paneer might be ok if you're strictly Vegetarian but doesn't compare to non veg sources
脂肪含量高是坡尼尔的问题所在。现在大多数动物都是谷物喂养，而不是草喂养。此外，坡尼尔中的酪蛋白的生物价值比乳清或鸡蛋低得多。 如果你是严格的素食主义者，坡尼尔的营养也许还可以，但没办法跟非素食营养来源相比。
IDarK__NiGHT
Why did you not get a balanced diet? Were your parents not educated about it in school lol? It's pretty basic stuff tbh, taught failrly early on in schools.
为什么你没有得到均衡的饮食？你的父母在学校没有接受这方面的教育吗？这是很基本的东西，在学校里很早就教过了。
Why did you not get a balanced diet? Were your parents not educated about it in school lol? It's pretty basic stuff tbh, taught failrly early on in schools.
为什么你没有得到均衡的饮食？你的父母在学校没有接受这方面的教育吗？这是很基本的东西，在学校里很早就教过了。
TheMailmanic
How does protein impact height? Total calories + vitamins are what matter
蛋白质如何影响身高？总热量+维生素才是最重要的。
How does protein impact height? Total calories + vitamins are what matter
蛋白质如何影响身高？总热量+维生素才是最重要的。
Thisconnected
Protein has amino acids which are the building blocks. Just empty calories can't build muscles and will only be converted into fats
蛋白质有氨基酸，而氨基酸是身体的建设材料。仅仅是空的卡路里是不能形成肌肉的，只会转化为脂肪。
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Protein has amino acids which are the building blocks. Just empty calories can't build muscles and will only be converted into fats
蛋白质有氨基酸，而氨基酸是身体的建设材料。仅仅是空的卡路里是不能形成肌肉的，只会转化为脂肪。
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TheMailmanic
You are talking nonsense
胡说八道
You are talking nonsense
胡说八道
Ok-Abies-5812
truth is just a google away
你谷歌一下不就知道了
truth is just a google away
你谷歌一下不就知道了
TheMailmanic
No one has shown me direct evidence yet that protein intake alone has a direct effect on height independent of other factors like calories and vitamins and genetics
还没有人向我展示直接的证据，证明仅仅是蛋白质的摄入就对身高有直接的影响，与其他因素如卡路里和维生素以及遗传学无关。
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No one has shown me direct evidence yet that protein intake alone has a direct effect on height independent of other factors like calories and vitamins and genetics
还没有人向我展示直接的证据，证明仅仅是蛋白质的摄入就对身高有直接的影响，与其他因素如卡路里和维生素以及遗传学无关。
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pxm7
Individual height is down to genetics (most notably kids usually are the average height of their parents), but a population’s height is down to environmental issues including nutrition.
Indians’ diet has been getting better over the past 75 years, so I’d expect them to be getting taller, but very slowly.
There’s also studies like this about how better nutrition influences better height.
That said, there is some cause for concern. It’s not just you (OP) noticing something’s off, that could be because you didn’t notice taller people. Studies in India have worryingly shown height declines in some groups, although in some groups height has increased.
I don’t know why this is, but I wonder — A lot of Indians, especially poorer Indians, eat extremely carb-heavy diets because cheap rice is easy to get. They don’t eat enough protein or vegetables. Could that be a reason? But that’s just speculation — more research is urgently needed.
个人的身高是由遗传决定的（最明显的是孩子们通常是他们父母的平均身高），但人口的身高是由环境问题包括营养决定的。
在过去的75年里，印度人的饮食状况一直在改善，所以我预计他们会越来越高，但非常缓慢。
还有像这样（链接）的研究，关于更好的营养如何影响更好的身高。
也就是说，有一些原因值得关注。不仅仅是你（OP）注意到事情有变化，因为你没有注意到更高的人。印度的研究还令人担忧地表明，某些群体的身高有所下降，尽管某些群体的身高有所增加。
我不知道这是为什么，但我想知道--很多印度人，尤其是较贫穷的印度人，吃的是碳水化合物含量极高的饮食，因为便宜的大米很容易得到。他们没有吃足够的蛋白质或蔬菜。也许这是一个原因？但这只是猜测--迫切需要更多的研究。
Individual height is down to genetics (most notably kids usually are the average height of their parents), but a population’s height is down to environmental issues including nutrition.
Indians’ diet has been getting better over the past 75 years, so I’d expect them to be getting taller, but very slowly.
There’s also studies like this about how better nutrition influences better height.
That said, there is some cause for concern. It’s not just you (OP) noticing something’s off, that could be because you didn’t notice taller people. Studies in India have worryingly shown height declines in some groups, although in some groups height has increased.
I don’t know why this is, but I wonder — A lot of Indians, especially poorer Indians, eat extremely carb-heavy diets because cheap rice is easy to get. They don’t eat enough protein or vegetables. Could that be a reason? But that’s just speculation — more research is urgently needed.
个人的身高是由遗传决定的（最明显的是孩子们通常是他们父母的平均身高），但人口的身高是由环境问题包括营养决定的。
在过去的75年里，印度人的饮食状况一直在改善，所以我预计他们会越来越高，但非常缓慢。
还有像这样（链接）的研究，关于更好的营养如何影响更好的身高。
也就是说，有一些原因值得关注。不仅仅是你（OP）注意到事情有变化，因为你没有注意到更高的人。印度的研究还令人担忧地表明，某些群体的身高有所下降，尽管某些群体的身高有所增加。
我不知道这是为什么，但我想知道--很多印度人，尤其是较贫穷的印度人，吃的是碳水化合物含量极高的饮食，因为便宜的大米很容易得到。他们没有吃足够的蛋白质或蔬菜。也许这是一个原因？但这只是猜测--迫切需要更多的研究。
Several_Sunlit_Days
cries in 5'0"
只有5英尺（152.4厘米）的我哭泣
cries in 5'0"
只有5英尺（152.4厘米）的我哭泣
Batwoman_2017
I don't have data to back me up, but stunting in children and early adolescents affects height overall, so any improvement on that front for the population would result in taller children/ teenagers.
我没有数据支持，但我认为儿童和青少年早期的发育不良会影响整体身高，所以人口在这方面的任何改善都会导致儿童/青少年身高增加。
I don't have data to back me up, but stunting in children and early adolescents affects height overall, so any improvement on that front for the population would result in taller children/ teenagers.
我没有数据支持，但我认为儿童和青少年早期的发育不良会影响整体身高，所以人口在这方面的任何改善都会导致儿童/青少年身高增加。
nandu_sabka_bandhoo
That's true. And I'd assume the improvement in bigger cities and towns have been much more where parents aren't dependent on govt or schools for their child's nutrition needs. But has it improved enough to increase the national average substantially, like it has in China and SK?
这倒是真的。我认为在大的城市和城镇，父母不依赖政府或学校来满足孩子的营养需求，其改善程度会更大。但是，它的改善是否足以大幅提高全国平均水平，就像在中国和韩国那样？
That's true. And I'd assume the improvement in bigger cities and towns have been much more where parents aren't dependent on govt or schools for their child's nutrition needs. But has it improved enough to increase the national average substantially, like it has in China and SK?
这倒是真的。我认为在大的城市和城镇，父母不依赖政府或学校来满足孩子的营养需求，其改善程度会更大。但是，它的改善是否足以大幅提高全国平均水平，就像在中国和韩国那样？
Batwoman_2017
You can't say anything for sure unless there is a sample survey to determine average heights.
除非有抽样调查来确定平均身高，否则你没办法下结论。
You can't say anything for sure unless there is a sample survey to determine average heights.
除非有抽样调查来确定平均身高，否则你没办法下结论。
nandu_sabka_bandhoo
OP
That's true. But here I was looking for anecdotal evidence. What do you observe around you ?
确实。但我正在寻找身边统计学。你在你周围观察到了什么吗？
OP
That's true. But here I was looking for anecdotal evidence. What do you observe around you ?
确实。但我正在寻找身边统计学。你在你周围观察到了什么吗？
Batwoman_2017
I don't think men in my circle have become taller than their parents or grandparents. Women have become taller.
我不认为我的圈子里的男人变得比他们的父母或祖父母更高了。不过女性已经变得更高了。
I don't think men in my circle have become taller than their parents or grandparents. Women have become taller.
我不认为我的圈子里的男人变得比他们的父母或祖父母更高了。不过女性已经变得更高了。
Both_Finish2476
maybe, im 14 and 5'9, the average height in class class is like 5'6 which is taller than before
也许吧，我14岁，身高5英尺9，班上的平均身高是5英尺6，比以前高了。
maybe, im 14 and 5'9, the average height in class class is like 5'6 which is taller than before
也许吧，我14岁，身高5英尺9，班上的平均身高是5英尺6，比以前高了。
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