我的中国朋友从中国社交媒体上看到了这个消息,然后转发了。据中国人说,这条消息已经在美国流传开来
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@Stephen Lee
This is an inevitable consequence of oligarchic capitalism, and Americans just don't realize it. The system has not changed, but the state of wealth distribution in American society today is not what it was in the United States more than 200 years ago.

这是寡头资本主义的必然后果,美国人却没有意识到。体制没有改变,但美国社会的财富分配状态已不同于200多年前的美国。

@Leung Bernard
Nonetheless, the standard of living is still higher today for the average American, illegal immigrants line up to work in the US by the hundred thousands.

尽管如此,今天普通美国人的生活水平仍然较高,成千上万的非法移民排队在美国工作。

@Dhi Mancini
Nope standard of living is not higher.

不,生活水平并没有提高。

@Albert
I mean, the Republicans always campaign on lowering taxes. The Democrats campaign on only taxing the rich. And for the average American, making $60k, total taxes (state and federal) is probably going to be closer to 20%. Even in California, if you’re making $350k, total effective tax rate will be 39.33%.

我的意思是,共和党人总是以降低税收为竞选纲领。而民主党人则只针对富人征税。对于年收入6万美元的普通美国人来说,总税率(州税和联邦税)可能接近20%。即便在加利福尼亚,如果你的收入是35万美元,总有效税率将是39.33%。

@Richard Wong
You only include income taxes, but we pay other taxes like sales and use tax, property tax, etc. Since those are typically a flat rate, burden is higher for low income American. 40% total tax in the meme is not that far fetch.

你只计算了所得税,但我们还需缴纳销售税、使用税、财产税等。由于这些通常是固定税率,低收入美国人的负担更重。图片中的40%总税率并非夸张。

@Albert
American taxes are on the low side compared to the developing world. We collect 27% of taxes as GDP. This implies the average person pays around this much in total taxes (lines up with my personal spending).

与发展中国家相比,美国的税率较低。我们的税收占GDP的27%。这意味着平均每个人的总税负大约是这么多(与我个人的开支相符)。

@Richard Wong
If I am reading it correctly, data came from federal /national government. Not really a true representation, it does not include taxes (income, sales tax, other taxes) from state and local government. In addition, don't include tariffs, which is also taxes.

如果我理解正确的话,数据来自联邦/国家政府。这并非真实的代表,它没有包括州和地方政府的税收(所得税、销售税、其他税种)。此外,还没有包括关税,这也是税收。
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@Kou Yew Liew
Is that why your deficit spending in 2023 is >6% of GDP? Not everyone can afford that in a non-recession year or crisis period. The Federal Budget in Fiscal Year 2023: An Infographic | Congressional Budget Office (cbo.gov)

这就是为什么你们2023年的赤字支出超过GDP的6%吗?不是每个人都能在非衰退年份或危机时期负担得起。2023财年联邦预算:信息图表来自国会预算办公室

@Albert
Pretty much. The feds need to do a combination of the following: raise taxes and cut spending. Or invent a Time Machine, convince Al Gore to use Clinton’s popularity to get elected, and keep Clinton’s surplus (ie not cut taxes and invade two countries).

基本如此。联邦政府需要做的是:提高税收和削减开支。或者发明时间机器,说服阿尔·戈尔利用克林顿的人气当选,并保持克林顿的盈余(即不减税和入侵两个国家)。

@Norman Tan
I'm confused. Are you saying Al Gore didn't run for president?

我很困惑。你是说阿尔·戈尔没有竞选总统吗?
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@Albert
He did. But a crucial mistake of his campaign was that he tried his hardest to distance himself from Clinton.

他确实竞选过。但他竞选的一个关键错误是他极力与克林顿保持距离。

@Norman Tan
Really? I don't remember that. Pretty strange considering he served as VP to Clinton for 8 years..

真的吗?我不记得了。考虑到他曾作为副总统在克林顿手下服务了8年,这很奇怪。

@Albert
Gore should’ve had Bill Clinton campaign extensively for him. However, Gore wanted to distance himself from Bill because of the Lewinsky scandal, when in all actuality, the public had long stopped caring about it.

戈尔应该让比尔·克林顿为他广泛地助选。然而,由于莱温斯基丑闻,戈尔想与比尔保持距离,实际上,公众早就不再关心这件事了。

@Norman Tan
All I can remember from that time was Al Gore's claim that he invented the internet And the Brooks Brothers riot

我能记得的就是阿尔·戈尔声称他发明了互联网和布鲁克斯兄弟骚乱

@Michael Ji Fe
Europeans have far better social welfare and public service.

欧洲人的社会福利和公共服务要好得多。

@Steinar Vilnes
Also worth to note that the countries being on the high end are among the countries often measured to be the best countries to live in.

同样值得注意的是,处于高端的国家常常被评为最宜居的国家之一。

@Michael Ji Fe
Rep just want the rich to avoid taxes.

共和党只想让富人逃税。

@Gary Healer
DER UNIPARTY LOVES THE SMARTPHONE LEMMINGS AND TRUMP IS THE THREAT

统一党爱智能手机的小白鼠,而特朗普是威胁

@Mchue
Democracy!

民主!
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@JF Pinero
Yup, and a better life to go with it.

是的,还有更好的生活。

@Norman Tan
That's just the antidepressant

那只是抗抑郁药

@JF Pinero
Not here.

这里不是。

@Leung Bernard
Korea is a very stressful country, they just under report mental health issues. High suicide rate, low birth rate, long study and work hours…

韩国是一个压力很大的国家,他们只是少报了心理健康问题。高自杀率,低出生率,长时间学习和工作…

@US We
This doesn’t take away the irony of the image, but in context, the revolutionary war had other causes than taxes.

这并不能消除图片的讽刺意味,但从上下文来看,革命战争的原因不仅仅是税收。

@JF Pinero
What lineup is that?

那是什么阵容?

@TravelerZ
I see whoever made this and shared this have no clue that they were literally “no taxation without representation” and the rate of tax was hardly a part of it

我看到制作和分享这个的人根本不知道他们字面上是“没有代表权就没有纳税”,而税率几乎不是其中的一部分

@It's Just Tom
Perhaps. But I'd take 2% tax rate over 40% any day, representation be damned.

也许吧。但我宁愿选择2%的税率而不是40%,不管有没有代表权。
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@Leung Bernard
Even 2% tax without electricity, running water, internet, modern medicine and modern transport, like 200 years ago? You don’t know what you are talking about.

即使是2%的税率,没有电、自来水、互联网、现代医疗和现代交通,就像200年前一样?你根本不知道你在说什么。

@It's Just Tom
Taxes don’t pay utilities. You pay for your electricity, water, internet, health insurance, and your own car and gas. Taxes go to government institutions, which provide NONE of the above. You’re confounding taxes with the scientific progress men have made in the last 200 years, highly illogical.

税收不支付公用事业费。你支付自己的电费、水费、互联网费、健康保险以及你自己的汽车和汽油费。税收流向政府机构,这些机构不提供上述任何服务。你把税收与过去200年人类科学进步混为一谈,非常不合逻辑。

@Leung Bernard
So you would rather pay 2% tax living 200 years ago, coz you said you prefer 2% tax anytime, anytime till 1000 years ago?

所以你宁愿生活在200年前支付2%的税,因为你说你随时都喜欢2%的税率,一直到1000年前?

@Stephen Yeung
Was it really 2% in 1775? I thought it was much more.

1775年真的只有2%吗?我以为会更多。

@Brian Tarigan
They actually against taxation without representation in the first picture, not really the rate of it.

他们实际上反对第一张图片中没有代表权的征税,而不是税率。

@Sikin Totasgano
A lot of ppl pay tax but has no rights to vote… is that also lack of representation

很多人交税但没有投票权……这也是缺乏代表性吗?

@Simon Jäger
Man 40% tax would be so neat. I think in Germany, it's around 45%.

哥们,40%的税率真的很好了。我认为在德国,大约是45%。

@Giovanni Ching Autheman
Like frogs in Heinzmann’s paradigm within their politicians’ world of Leibniz’s theodicy.

就像在莱布尼茨神正论的世界里,海因茨曼范例中的青蛙。

@Carlos Botero
Demo(n)crazy is the biggest scam out there…

民主疯狂是最大的骗局……

@Sls3j1
tax counts nothing, we should only count the real purchase ability.

税什么的不重要,我们应该只计算真正的购买能力。

@Parson Jackson
And like most people that don’t know what they are talking about…. It wasn’t the amount of tax….. it was WHO was levying the tax.

就像大多数不知道自己在说什么的人一样……问题不在于税收的数量……而在于是谁在征税。

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