奇葩问答：无神论有治疗方法吗？
正文翻译
Is there a treatment for atheism?
无神论有治疗方法吗？
无神论有治疗方法吗？
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Phenomena observed that despite best efforts, in rear cases some people redevelop ‘Atheism’ during early adulthood (Recrudescence Phase) which usually progressed from ‘Agnosticism’ which is allegedly early warning sign of ‘Atheism’ in most cases.
Fear and control: Exposing the subject or yourself to the regular dose of coercive fear and control mechanism is an excellent supplement for the treatment of ‘Atheism’.
从现象我们可以观察到，尽管做出了最大的努力，但在某些情况下，一些人在成年早期（复发阶段）重新发展了“无神论”，这通常是从“不可知论”发展而来的，据称在大多数情况下，“不可知主义”是“无神论”的早期复发的预警信号。
2、威胁和控制：
让受试者或你自己暴露在常规剂量的强制性威胁和控制机制中，是治疗“无神论”的绝佳补充。
Deb Paul
A: Unfortunately, unlike Theism the ‘Atheism’ once ‘redeveloped’ it is not curable. However, ‘redevelopment’ is very much preventable. Here are some treatments for ‘Atheism’ that have been successfully used around the globe from time immemorial.
Childhood indoctrination: Not many people are aware that all humans are born Atheists (a term used to describe people who are suffering from ‘Atheism’). But most people are successfully cured of it in their childhood through systematic indoctrination. Childhood indoctrination involves psychological manipulation by the family primarily in the early stages of a child’s moral and intellectual development to act and think on the basis of a certain ideology. This is by far the most successful treatment for ‘Atheism’. Once cured of it will progressively get much harder to redevelop it as the person aged.
Typical correlation between Age and Disease Incidence of ‘Atheism’ is below:
答：
不幸的是，与有神论不同，“无神论”一旦“复发”就无法治愈。
然而，“复发”是可以预防的。
以下就是自古以来在世界各地成功治疗“无神论”的一些方法：
1、童年灌输：
很多人类都不知道，所有人类生来都是无神论者（这个术语是用来描述患有“无神论”的人）。但大多数人在童年时期通过系统灌输成功的治愈了它。童年灌输主要涉及家庭在儿童道德和智力发展的早期阶段进行的心理操纵，以某种意识形态为基础的行动和思考。
这是迄今为止最成功的“无神论”治疗方法。一旦治愈，随着年龄的增长，重新患上这种疾病的难度会逐渐加大。
“无神论”的年龄和发病率之间的典型相关性如下：
横坐标：年龄 （30岁后，复发概率变得极低）
纵坐标：复发概率
A: Unfortunately, unlike Theism the ‘Atheism’ once ‘redeveloped’ it is not curable. However, ‘redevelopment’ is very much preventable. Here are some treatments for ‘Atheism’ that have been successfully used around the globe from time immemorial.
Childhood indoctrination: Not many people are aware that all humans are born Atheists (a term used to describe people who are suffering from ‘Atheism’). But most people are successfully cured of it in their childhood through systematic indoctrination. Childhood indoctrination involves psychological manipulation by the family primarily in the early stages of a child’s moral and intellectual development to act and think on the basis of a certain ideology. This is by far the most successful treatment for ‘Atheism’. Once cured of it will progressively get much harder to redevelop it as the person aged.
Typical correlation between Age and Disease Incidence of ‘Atheism’ is below:
答：
不幸的是，与有神论不同，“无神论”一旦“复发”就无法治愈。
然而，“复发”是可以预防的。
以下就是自古以来在世界各地成功治疗“无神论”的一些方法：
1、童年灌输：
很多人类都不知道，所有人类生来都是无神论者（这个术语是用来描述患有“无神论”的人）。但大多数人在童年时期通过系统灌输成功的治愈了它。童年灌输主要涉及家庭在儿童道德和智力发展的早期阶段进行的心理操纵，以某种意识形态为基础的行动和思考。
这是迄今为止最成功的“无神论”治疗方法。一旦治愈，随着年龄的增长，重新患上这种疾病的难度会逐渐加大。
“无神论”的年龄和发病率之间的典型相关性如下：
横坐标：年龄 （30岁后，复发概率变得极低）
纵坐标：复发概率
Phenomena observed that despite best efforts, in rear cases some people redevelop ‘Atheism’ during early adulthood (Recrudescence Phase) which usually progressed from ‘Agnosticism’ which is allegedly early warning sign of ‘Atheism’ in most cases.
Fear and control: Exposing the subject or yourself to the regular dose of coercive fear and control mechanism is an excellent supplement for the treatment of ‘Atheism’.
从现象我们可以观察到，尽管做出了最大的努力，但在某些情况下，一些人在成年早期（复发阶段）重新发展了“无神论”，这通常是从“不可知论”发展而来的，据称在大多数情况下，“不可知主义”是“无神论”的早期复发的预警信号。
2、威胁和控制：
让受试者或你自己暴露在常规剂量的强制性威胁和控制机制中，是治疗“无神论”的绝佳补充。
Chantal Gaudiano Whittington
What makes you think atheism is a state of mind that needs to be treated? I regard atheism as absolutely necessary to spiritual growth.
For a person of faith, atheism is a good stage to enter because in it, you question the validity, not just of your religion, but of faith itself. For me, as a religious person, I am very glad to have been an atheist for a while because it allowed me to really think about my religion, to look squarely at its claims, and to eventually separate in my mind those things I regarded as part of religion and those things that I regarded as faith and to assess their relative merits.
I concluded that I had little use for organized religion, but I found great value in faith. The best, more useful, aspects of organized religion promote faith. The less useful aspects of organized religion promote the organization and its dogma.
While you are in the mindset of atheism, you feel it to be permanent—and it might become permanent. That’s okay. It’s good to question. Anything, even religion, that cannot stand up to questioning doesn’t deserve our consideration.
For me, my period of atheism allowed me to re-find and to refine my faith. Once I worked out what religious teachings did and did not make sense to me, I was able to come up with a worldview that matches reality but still admits spiritual faith.
So don’t knock atheism. There are far worse ills in the world.
是什么让你认为无神论是一种需要治疗的精神状态？
我认为无神论对于精神成长是绝对必要的。
对于一个有信仰的人来说，无神论是一个很好的阶段，因为在这个阶段，你不仅会质疑你的宗教的有效性，而且回质疑信仰本身的有效性。
对我来说，作为一个宗教人士，我很高兴曾经做过一段时间的无神论者，因为它让我能够真正思考我的宗教，直面它的主张，并最终在我的脑海中将那些我认为是宗教一部分的东西和那些我认为是信仰的东西区分开来，并评估它们的相对优点。
我的结论是，有组织的宗教没什么用处，但我发现信仰很有价值。有组织的宗教最好、最有用的方面就是促进了信仰。有组织的宗教，不太有用的方面，就是促进了组织及其教条。
当你处于无神论的心态时，你会觉得它是永恒的——而且它非常有可能真的变成永恒的。
没关系。质疑是件好事。任何经不起质疑的东西，即使是宗教，都不值得我们考虑。
对我来说，无神论时期让我重新发现并完善了我的信仰。一旦我弄清楚宗教教义对我有意义和无意义的部分，我就能发展出一种符合现实，但仍然承认精神信仰的世界观。
所以不要批评无神论。世界上还有更糟糕的弊病。
What makes you think atheism is a state of mind that needs to be treated? I regard atheism as absolutely necessary to spiritual growth.
For a person of faith, atheism is a good stage to enter because in it, you question the validity, not just of your religion, but of faith itself. For me, as a religious person, I am very glad to have been an atheist for a while because it allowed me to really think about my religion, to look squarely at its claims, and to eventually separate in my mind those things I regarded as part of religion and those things that I regarded as faith and to assess their relative merits.
I concluded that I had little use for organized religion, but I found great value in faith. The best, more useful, aspects of organized religion promote faith. The less useful aspects of organized religion promote the organization and its dogma.
While you are in the mindset of atheism, you feel it to be permanent—and it might become permanent. That’s okay. It’s good to question. Anything, even religion, that cannot stand up to questioning doesn’t deserve our consideration.
For me, my period of atheism allowed me to re-find and to refine my faith. Once I worked out what religious teachings did and did not make sense to me, I was able to come up with a worldview that matches reality but still admits spiritual faith.
So don’t knock atheism. There are far worse ills in the world.
是什么让你认为无神论是一种需要治疗的精神状态？
我认为无神论对于精神成长是绝对必要的。
对于一个有信仰的人来说，无神论是一个很好的阶段，因为在这个阶段，你不仅会质疑你的宗教的有效性，而且回质疑信仰本身的有效性。
对我来说，作为一个宗教人士，我很高兴曾经做过一段时间的无神论者，因为它让我能够真正思考我的宗教，直面它的主张，并最终在我的脑海中将那些我认为是宗教一部分的东西和那些我认为是信仰的东西区分开来，并评估它们的相对优点。
我的结论是，有组织的宗教没什么用处，但我发现信仰很有价值。有组织的宗教最好、最有用的方面就是促进了信仰。有组织的宗教，不太有用的方面，就是促进了组织及其教条。
当你处于无神论的心态时，你会觉得它是永恒的——而且它非常有可能真的变成永恒的。
没关系。质疑是件好事。任何经不起质疑的东西，即使是宗教，都不值得我们考虑。
对我来说，无神论时期让我重新发现并完善了我的信仰。一旦我弄清楚宗教教义对我有意义和无意义的部分，我就能发展出一种符合现实，但仍然承认精神信仰的世界观。
所以不要批评无神论。世界上还有更糟糕的弊病。
Paul Myers
Your asking if there is a treatment for someone who is rational and only accepts as his knowledge base anything that can be proven. I suppose one such treatment is a hard hit to the head so that he loses his ability to be rational.
You have to remember, we are all born atheists, and only a sext few have had the influence of religion brainwash their views, their knowledge base, and their beliefs via downloading a religious virus in their thought process that interferes with rationality.
你想问的是：如何治疗一个理性的人，他只接受任何可以证明的东西作为他的知识基础。
我想，这种治疗方法就是重击他的头部，让他失去理性。
你必须记住，我们都是天生的无神论者，只有少数人会受到宗教的影响。有人在他们的思维过程中下载干扰理性的宗教病毒，以此来洗脑他们的观点、知识基础和信仰。
Your asking if there is a treatment for someone who is rational and only accepts as his knowledge base anything that can be proven. I suppose one such treatment is a hard hit to the head so that he loses his ability to be rational.
You have to remember, we are all born atheists, and only a sext few have had the influence of religion brainwash their views, their knowledge base, and their beliefs via downloading a religious virus in their thought process that interferes with rationality.
你想问的是：如何治疗一个理性的人，他只接受任何可以证明的东西作为他的知识基础。
我想，这种治疗方法就是重击他的头部，让他失去理性。
你必须记住，我们都是天生的无神论者，只有少数人会受到宗教的影响。有人在他们的思维过程中下载干扰理性的宗教病毒，以此来洗脑他们的观点、知识基础和信仰。
Edgar Valderrama
I upvoted you but would like to make what I consider a “correction.”
Most people’s brains are corrupted not by “allowing” absurd dogmas to be downloaded, but by well meaning relatives doing their religious brainwashing duty.
(in my opinion)
楼上，我给你点了赞，但我想做点我认为的“更正”。
大多数人的大脑被腐蚀，不是因为“允许”下载荒谬的教条，而是因为好心的亲戚履行了他们的宗教洗脑职责。
（在我看来）
I upvoted you but would like to make what I consider a “correction.”
Most people’s brains are corrupted not by “allowing” absurd dogmas to be downloaded, but by well meaning relatives doing their religious brainwashing duty.
(in my opinion)
楼上，我给你点了赞，但我想做点我认为的“更正”。
大多数人的大脑被腐蚀，不是因为“允许”下载荒谬的教条，而是因为好心的亲戚履行了他们的宗教洗脑职责。
（在我看来）
Paul Myers
Your point is well-taken. Let me see if I can better word my answer.
你的观点很正确。我看看能不能让我答案措辞更准确。
Your point is well-taken. Let me see if I can better word my answer.
你的观点很正确。我看看能不能让我答案措辞更准确。
Fred Hoffmeister
Atheism is the cure!
For more than 98% Christianity is the problem! It’s the rare 2% OR LESS Christians that don’t make an COMPLLET asshole of themself!
They have to lie to support their religion, they constantly lie to each other for religious support, they lie so often they can’t sort the truth out from the flood of lies.
无神论才是被治愈了的！
对于超过 98% 的人来说，基督教才是问题所在！剩下的2%才是罕见的。
2%中，只要极少数的基督徒没有让自己成为一个彻头彻尾的混蛋！
他们不得不用撒谎来支持他们的宗教，他们不断地互相撒谎以寻求宗教支持，他们撒谎的频率如此之高，以至于无法从谎言的洪流中找出真相。
Atheism is the cure!
For more than 98% Christianity is the problem! It’s the rare 2% OR LESS Christians that don’t make an COMPLLET asshole of themself!
They have to lie to support their religion, they constantly lie to each other for religious support, they lie so often they can’t sort the truth out from the flood of lies.
无神论才是被治愈了的！
对于超过 98% 的人来说，基督教才是问题所在！剩下的2%才是罕见的。
2%中，只要极少数的基督徒没有让自己成为一个彻头彻尾的混蛋！
他们不得不用撒谎来支持他们的宗教，他们不断地互相撒谎以寻求宗教支持，他们撒谎的频率如此之高，以至于无法从谎言的洪流中找出真相。
Rhys Thomas
A treatment?
As in it's some sort of disease or defect that needs some kind of cure or therapy?
A person's beliefs or non-beliefs are their own free choice - often influenced by those around them or sometimes by their own experiences.
Your question is as ridiculous as asking if there is a treatment for people whose favourite colour is blue: someone's favourite colour is their own free choice, and attempting to ‘treat’ that is futile at best.
Or it's like ‘treating' someone for their favourite book.
My favourite book is still ‘War of the Worlds’, I don't seek a cure for those who think ‘Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea’ is a better book, because a ‘better book' is someone's personal opinion, and on something that might affect their own life but doesn't really affect anyone else's.
The same is true for religion (or lack thereof): take from yours what you will, live well and live good; let others do the same with their own beliefs (or lack thereof). Their beliefs don't affect you, don't let your beliefs affect them either.
治疗？
就像是某种疾病或缺陷需要某种治疗或疗法一样？
一个人信仰或不信仰，是他们自己的自由选择——通常受到周围人的影响，有时也受到自己经历的影响。
你的问题就像是问，是否有办法治疗最喜欢蓝色的人，一样荒谬。
别人最喜欢的颜色，是他们自己的自由选择，试图“治疗”是徒劳的。
或者，这就像要“治疗”一下某人最喜欢的书。
我最喜欢的书是《世界大战》，我不会为那些认为《海底两万里》是一本更好的书的人需要被治疗。
因为“更好的书”是某人的个人看法，是关于可能影响自己生活但不会真正影响其他人生活的事情。
宗教（或无宗教）也是如此：你拿走你想要的东西，好好生活，让其他人用自己的信仰（或无信仰）做同样的事情。他们的信仰不会影响到你，也不要让你的信仰影响他们。
A treatment?
As in it's some sort of disease or defect that needs some kind of cure or therapy?
A person's beliefs or non-beliefs are their own free choice - often influenced by those around them or sometimes by their own experiences.
Your question is as ridiculous as asking if there is a treatment for people whose favourite colour is blue: someone's favourite colour is their own free choice, and attempting to ‘treat’ that is futile at best.
Or it's like ‘treating' someone for their favourite book.
My favourite book is still ‘War of the Worlds’, I don't seek a cure for those who think ‘Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea’ is a better book, because a ‘better book' is someone's personal opinion, and on something that might affect their own life but doesn't really affect anyone else's.
The same is true for religion (or lack thereof): take from yours what you will, live well and live good; let others do the same with their own beliefs (or lack thereof). Their beliefs don't affect you, don't let your beliefs affect them either.
治疗？
就像是某种疾病或缺陷需要某种治疗或疗法一样？
一个人信仰或不信仰，是他们自己的自由选择——通常受到周围人的影响，有时也受到自己经历的影响。
你的问题就像是问，是否有办法治疗最喜欢蓝色的人，一样荒谬。
别人最喜欢的颜色，是他们自己的自由选择，试图“治疗”是徒劳的。
或者，这就像要“治疗”一下某人最喜欢的书。
我最喜欢的书是《世界大战》，我不会为那些认为《海底两万里》是一本更好的书的人需要被治疗。
因为“更好的书”是某人的个人看法，是关于可能影响自己生活但不会真正影响其他人生活的事情。
宗教（或无宗教）也是如此：你拿走你想要的东西，好好生活，让其他人用自己的信仰（或无信仰）做同样的事情。他们的信仰不会影响到你，也不要让你的信仰影响他们。
Marino Smilovic
There is an urgent need to create a treatment for believers like you, but unfortunately stupidity can not be cured.
迫切需要为像你这样的信徒创造一种治疗方法，但不幸的是，愚蠢是无法治愈的。
There is an urgent need to create a treatment for believers like you, but unfortunately stupidity can not be cured.
迫切需要为像你这样的信徒创造一种治疗方法，但不幸的是，愚蠢是无法治愈的。
Henry Blum
Atheism is the default setting.
We are all born atheists.
Do you mean to tell me you believe we are all born defective?
And then we are brainwashed into religion. Some people, anyway.
If anything, there needs to be a treatment for that.
无神论是默认设置。
我们都是天生的无神论者。
你是说你相信我们生来就有缺陷吗？
然后，我们就被宗教洗脑了。某些人，某种方式。
如果真要治疗的话，他们才是需要被治疗的。
Atheism is the default setting.
We are all born atheists.
Do you mean to tell me you believe we are all born defective?
And then we are brainwashed into religion. Some people, anyway.
If anything, there needs to be a treatment for that.
无神论是默认设置。
我们都是天生的无神论者。
你是说你相信我们生来就有缺陷吗？
然后，我们就被宗教洗脑了。某些人，某种方式。
如果真要治疗的话，他们才是需要被治疗的。
Richard Smedley
Yes.
Lying, threats, childhood indoctrination, and wilful ignorance are all well-known methods of getting rid of atheism.
是的。
撒谎、威胁、童年灌输和顽固愚昧，都是摆脱无神论的众所周知的方法。
Yes.
Lying, threats, childhood indoctrination, and wilful ignorance are all well-known methods of getting rid of atheism.
是的。
撒谎、威胁、童年灌输和顽固愚昧，都是摆脱无神论的众所周知的方法。
John Dohan
You could try brainwashing people. It worked for thousands of cults and some of them even turned into world-religions.
你可以试着给人们洗脑。洗脑这个手法，为数千个邪教组织所用，其中一些邪教甚至变成了世界宗教。
You could try brainwashing people. It worked for thousands of cults and some of them even turned into world-religions.
你可以试着给人们洗脑。洗脑这个手法，为数千个邪教组织所用，其中一些邪教甚至变成了世界宗教。
Edgar Valderrama
Is there a treatment for atheism?
Well, I suppose you could lock up a few atheists in a sanitarium with religious hymns playing 24/7, but it would probably just drive them nuts!
Better yet, just arrange for god to explain himself in person; I’m so sure that would work that I’ll volunteer for the occasion!
无神论有治疗方法吗？
好吧，我想你可以把一些无神论者关在疗养院，全天候播放宗教赞美诗，但这可能会让他们发疯！
更好的办法是，只要安排上帝亲自来一躺，我确信这会奏效，如果有，我会自愿参加这个活动！
Is there a treatment for atheism?
Well, I suppose you could lock up a few atheists in a sanitarium with religious hymns playing 24/7, but it would probably just drive them nuts!
Better yet, just arrange for god to explain himself in person; I’m so sure that would work that I’ll volunteer for the occasion!
无神论有治疗方法吗？
好吧，我想你可以把一些无神论者关在疗养院，全天候播放宗教赞美诗，但这可能会让他们发疯！
更好的办法是，只要安排上帝亲自来一躺，我确信这会奏效，如果有，我会自愿参加这个活动！
Steve Brisket
Not as yet but there is certainly a cure for your stupidity. It is called education. (or a frontal lobotomy)
还没有办法治疗，但你的愚蠢肯定有办法治好，它被称为教育。（或额叶切除术）
Not as yet but there is certainly a cure for your stupidity. It is called education. (or a frontal lobotomy)
还没有办法治疗，但你的愚蠢肯定有办法治好，它被称为教育。（或额叶切除术）
Maggie McQuaid
It’s not a disease.
这不是一种疾病。
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It’s not a disease.
这不是一种疾病。
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Jerome McCollom
Well, if religion was built on reason, education, critical thinking etc you could try religion but usually it is atheism that is built on those things and religion is built (especially the fundamentalist kind) on dogma, superstition and make-believe.
好吧，如果宗教是建立在理性、教育、批判性思维等基础上的，你可以尝试宗教，但通常，无神论才是建立在这些基础上的，而宗教（尤其是原教旨主义）是建立在教条、迷信和虚构之上的。
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Well, if religion was built on reason, education, critical thinking etc you could try religion but usually it is atheism that is built on those things and religion is built (especially the fundamentalist kind) on dogma, superstition and make-believe.
好吧，如果宗教是建立在理性、教育、批判性思维等基础上的，你可以尝试宗教，但通常，无神论才是建立在这些基础上的，而宗教（尤其是原教旨主义）是建立在教条、迷信和虚构之上的。
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Richard O. Colestock
No - but if we keep irradiating the cancer of religion with the rays of truth, maybe it will disappear and there will be no further need for atheism.
不能——但如果我们继续用真理的光芒照射宗教的癌症，也许它会消失，不再需要无神论。
No - but if we keep irradiating the cancer of religion with the rays of truth, maybe it will disappear and there will be no further need for atheism.
不能——但如果我们继续用真理的光芒照射宗教的癌症，也许它会消失，不再需要无神论。
Tom Rose
Is there a treatment for atheism?
Yes. It is called indoctrination.
The end result is an inability to think rationally about religious matters.
It is best inculcated by an exclusive diet of religious tall tales in early childhood.
无神论有治疗方法吗？
有。这被称为灌输。
最终的结果是：无法理性地思考宗教问题。
最好是在幼儿时期通过独家的宗教故事来灌输。
Is there a treatment for atheism?
Yes. It is called indoctrination.
The end result is an inability to think rationally about religious matters.
It is best inculcated by an exclusive diet of religious tall tales in early childhood.
无神论有治疗方法吗？
有。这被称为灌输。
最终的结果是：无法理性地思考宗教问题。
最好是在幼儿时期通过独家的宗教故事来灌输。
Maciej Serafin
No. It’s not an illness so there is no treatment.
不，这不是一种疾病，所以没有治疗方法。
No. It’s not an illness so there is no treatment.
不，这不是一种疾病，所以没有治疗方法。
Arthur Lazar
Serious brain damage can remove atheism.
严重的脑损伤可以消除无神论。
Serious brain damage can remove atheism.
严重的脑损伤可以消除无神论。
Kristofer Walters
There’s nothing to treat, it’s the lack of belief in a god or gods. If your problem is that atheists exist, that’s easy to fix: prove there’s a god.
没有什么可治疗的，这是对一个或多个神缺乏信仰。
如果你的问题是，如何消灭无神论者的存在，那很容易解决：证明有神。
There’s nothing to treat, it’s the lack of belief in a god or gods. If your problem is that atheists exist, that’s easy to fix: prove there’s a god.
没有什么可治疗的，这是对一个或多个神缺乏信仰。
如果你的问题是，如何消灭无神论者的存在，那很容易解决：证明有神。
Kerry Farmer
Can I be cured of being an atheist?.
This is my answer
1.
I would require a logical and verifiable explanation that I could understand, and which explained how it would be possible, that God could exist and where he came from and how he could be all powerful and could be omniscient
2.
I would need to know why and how God created the world
3.
I would need to know and accept why God created sin
4.
I would need to know more about heaven and, in particular, if I could communicate with people already dead (which the Bible does not promise)
5.
I would need to understand and accept the problem of pain (child cancer?)
6.
I would need to know and accept why God allows the devil to exist
7.
I would need a reasonable explanation of all the horrible bits in the Old Testament (God allegedly arranged for 2.4 million deaths plus one flood holocaust killing young and old, innocent and guilty)
8.
I would need an explanation for all the illogical and contradictory bits of the Bible (eg the flood story is just plain wrong on quite a few issues)
9.
I would need to know and accept the reasons why God revealed himself so late in history to one remote and small tribe and it would take another 1500 years before the rest of the world could know about him
10.
I would need to know why an omnipotent God set the world up so that his son had to die horribly for my sins
11.
I would need to know why God did not visit my local church (God so loved the world that he hides behind clouds!!)
12.
I would need some verifiable proof that Jesus actually existed (seems unlikely)
13.
I would need to have proof that the New Testament descxtion of events was accurate (seems unlikely)
I would not want to rely on ancient foreign goat herder’s myths and the intellectual dishonesty of ‘leaps of faith’.
You would have to remove all my ethics, sense of justice, and sense of being an independent sentient creature
You would have to make me accept that I am owned
You would have to make me accept being a slave that has no say in what rules govern my life
You would have to make me accept that moral debt can be traded like some bargaining chip
You would have to make me accept that moral debt is not owned by the one that was harmed by my actions
You would have to make me accept that atonement is a way to erase moral debt
You would have to make me think that torture and killing is acceptable atonement
You would have to make me accept moral debt can be erased
You would have to make me accept scapegoating
…so in short, you would have to erase my most fundamental senses of ethics, justice, and self-determination.
That is all.
我身上无神论这个毛病可以治好吗？
这是我的答案：
1、我需要一个我能理解的逻辑和可验证的解释，解释上帝是如何可能存在的，他来自哪里，他是如何全能和无所不知的。
2、我需要知道上帝为什么以及如何创造世界的。
3、我需要知道并接受上帝为什么要创造罪恶。
4、我需要更多地了解天堂，特别是让我能与已经死去的人交流（圣经没有承诺过）
5、我需要理解并接受疼痛的问题（儿童癌症？）
6、我需要知道并接受为什么上帝允许魔鬼存在
7、我需要对旧约中所有可怕的部分做出合理的解释（据称上帝安排了240万人的死亡，外加一场洪水大屠杀，杀害了年轻人和老年人，无辜者和有罪者）
8、我需要对圣经中所有不合逻辑和矛盾的部分做出解释（例如，洪水故事在很多问题上都是完全错误的）
9、我需要知道并接受上帝在历史上这么晚才在一个偏远的小部落显现的原因，而世界其他地方需要再过1500年才能了解他。
10、我需要知道为什么全能的上帝可以创造这个世界，而他的儿子却不得不为我的罪而死。
11、我需要知道为什么上帝没有访问我当地的教堂（上帝如此爱这个世界，以至于他躲在云层后面！！）
12、我需要一些可验证的证据来证明耶稣确实存在（似乎不太可能）
13、我需要有证据证明新约对事件的描述是准确的（似乎不太可能）
我不想依赖古代外国牧羊人的神话和智力上的不诚实，来实现“信仰飞跃”。
你必须消除我所有的道德、正义感和作为独立有情生物的感觉
你必须让我接受我是属于别人的
你必须让我接受我是一个奴隶，我对我的生活规则没有发言权
你必须让我接受道德债务可以用讨价还价的方式来交易
你必须让我接受我欠的道德债务，不应该还款给我伤害的人
你必须让我接受赎罪卷是消除道德债务的一种方式
你必须让我认为折磨和杀戮是可以被接受的赎罪
你必须让我接受道德债务可以被抹去
你必须让我接受替罪羊的存在
简而言之，你必须抹去我最基本的道德、正义和自决感。
就这些了。
Can I be cured of being an atheist?.
This is my answer
1.
I would require a logical and verifiable explanation that I could understand, and which explained how it would be possible, that God could exist and where he came from and how he could be all powerful and could be omniscient
2.
I would need to know why and how God created the world
3.
I would need to know and accept why God created sin
4.
I would need to know more about heaven and, in particular, if I could communicate with people already dead (which the Bible does not promise)
5.
I would need to understand and accept the problem of pain (child cancer?)
6.
I would need to know and accept why God allows the devil to exist
7.
I would need a reasonable explanation of all the horrible bits in the Old Testament (God allegedly arranged for 2.4 million deaths plus one flood holocaust killing young and old, innocent and guilty)
8.
I would need an explanation for all the illogical and contradictory bits of the Bible (eg the flood story is just plain wrong on quite a few issues)
9.
I would need to know and accept the reasons why God revealed himself so late in history to one remote and small tribe and it would take another 1500 years before the rest of the world could know about him
10.
I would need to know why an omnipotent God set the world up so that his son had to die horribly for my sins
11.
I would need to know why God did not visit my local church (God so loved the world that he hides behind clouds!!)
12.
I would need some verifiable proof that Jesus actually existed (seems unlikely)
13.
I would need to have proof that the New Testament descxtion of events was accurate (seems unlikely)
I would not want to rely on ancient foreign goat herder’s myths and the intellectual dishonesty of ‘leaps of faith’.
You would have to remove all my ethics, sense of justice, and sense of being an independent sentient creature
You would have to make me accept that I am owned
You would have to make me accept being a slave that has no say in what rules govern my life
You would have to make me accept that moral debt can be traded like some bargaining chip
You would have to make me accept that moral debt is not owned by the one that was harmed by my actions
You would have to make me accept that atonement is a way to erase moral debt
You would have to make me think that torture and killing is acceptable atonement
You would have to make me accept moral debt can be erased
You would have to make me accept scapegoating
…so in short, you would have to erase my most fundamental senses of ethics, justice, and self-determination.
That is all.
我身上无神论这个毛病可以治好吗？
这是我的答案：
1、我需要一个我能理解的逻辑和可验证的解释，解释上帝是如何可能存在的，他来自哪里，他是如何全能和无所不知的。
2、我需要知道上帝为什么以及如何创造世界的。
3、我需要知道并接受上帝为什么要创造罪恶。
4、我需要更多地了解天堂，特别是让我能与已经死去的人交流（圣经没有承诺过）
5、我需要理解并接受疼痛的问题（儿童癌症？）
6、我需要知道并接受为什么上帝允许魔鬼存在
7、我需要对旧约中所有可怕的部分做出合理的解释（据称上帝安排了240万人的死亡，外加一场洪水大屠杀，杀害了年轻人和老年人，无辜者和有罪者）
8、我需要对圣经中所有不合逻辑和矛盾的部分做出解释（例如，洪水故事在很多问题上都是完全错误的）
9、我需要知道并接受上帝在历史上这么晚才在一个偏远的小部落显现的原因，而世界其他地方需要再过1500年才能了解他。
10、我需要知道为什么全能的上帝可以创造这个世界，而他的儿子却不得不为我的罪而死。
11、我需要知道为什么上帝没有访问我当地的教堂（上帝如此爱这个世界，以至于他躲在云层后面！！）
12、我需要一些可验证的证据来证明耶稣确实存在（似乎不太可能）
13、我需要有证据证明新约对事件的描述是准确的（似乎不太可能）
我不想依赖古代外国牧羊人的神话和智力上的不诚实，来实现“信仰飞跃”。
你必须消除我所有的道德、正义感和作为独立有情生物的感觉
你必须让我接受我是属于别人的
你必须让我接受我是一个奴隶，我对我的生活规则没有发言权
你必须让我接受道德债务可以用讨价还价的方式来交易
你必须让我接受我欠的道德债务，不应该还款给我伤害的人
你必须让我接受赎罪卷是消除道德债务的一种方式
你必须让我认为折磨和杀戮是可以被接受的赎罪
你必须让我接受道德债务可以被抹去
你必须让我接受替罪羊的存在
简而言之，你必须抹去我最基本的道德、正义和自决感。
就这些了。
David Phinney
Atheism is not a disease to be treated and/or cured. It is a philosophical point of view on the question of whether any gods exist - yours included.
Take the braces off your brain and begin asking questions instead of issuing answers regarding things you do not actually understand.
Best of luck!
无神论不是一种需要治疗和/或治愈的疾病。它是关于是否存在神（包括你自己的神）的问题的一种哲学观点。
摘掉脑袋上的牙套，开始问问题，而不是针对你实际上不理解的事情给出答案。
祝你好运！
Atheism is not a disease to be treated and/or cured. It is a philosophical point of view on the question of whether any gods exist - yours included.
Take the braces off your brain and begin asking questions instead of issuing answers regarding things you do not actually understand.
Best of luck!
无神论不是一种需要治疗和/或治愈的疾病。它是关于是否存在神（包括你自己的神）的问题的一种哲学观点。
摘掉脑袋上的牙套，开始问问题，而不是针对你实际上不理解的事情给出答案。
祝你好运！
Will van Zwanenberg
No, but there is a treatment for stupidity. It’s called getting an education. I advise you invest in such treatment.
没有，但有一种治疗愚蠢的方法。这叫做接受教育。我建议你投资这种治疗。
No, but there is a treatment for stupidity. It’s called getting an education. I advise you invest in such treatment.
没有，但有一种治疗愚蠢的方法。这叫做接受教育。我建议你投资这种治疗。
Ron Todd
Any evidence for any god would mean an end to all atheism.
(That’s in theory, of course. It has never been tried in practice.)
任何上帝存在的证据，都意味着所有无神论的终结。
（当然，这是理论上的。在实践中从未得到验证过。）
Any evidence for any god would mean an end to all atheism.
(That’s in theory, of course. It has never been tried in practice.)
任何上帝存在的证据，都意味着所有无神论的终结。
（当然，这是理论上的。在实践中从未得到验证过。）
Elena Piatti
You could try lobotomy,I suppose, but then you would have to take care of the former atheist around the clock till the atheist’s death. And lobotomies for that reason are also illegal, so you might have to slip the surgeon an extra to make it worthy his while to break the law.
我想，你可以尝试脑白质切除术，但这样你就必须全天候照顾这位前无神论者了，直到无神论者去世。但是，额叶切除术是非法的，所以你可能不得不多给外科医生一点好处，让他感觉违法是值得的。
You could try lobotomy,I suppose, but then you would have to take care of the former atheist around the clock till the atheist’s death. And lobotomies for that reason are also illegal, so you might have to slip the surgeon an extra to make it worthy his while to break the law.
我想，你可以尝试脑白质切除术，但这样你就必须全天候照顾这位前无神论者了，直到无神论者去世。但是，额叶切除术是非法的，所以你可能不得不多给外科医生一点好处，让他感觉违法是值得的。
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