在中国的小伙骨折去看急诊（二），引起各国网友对账。都被美国的天价账单惊呆了。比如只是简单的医生问诊下就提获得2100美元账单
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@Picuilla
In Miami about 12 years ago I went to emergency for dizziness and vertigo, I was there 4 hours with Physician Asistan, no MD, bill $17,995.00. Something is very wrong with USA medical system.
大约12年前，我在迈阿密因为头晕和眩晕去了急诊室，我在那里待了4个小时，只有医生助理，没有医生，账单是17995美元。美国的医疗系统出了大问题。
@Katy & Timo ❤️
imagine going to the doc because you're not feeling very good and after the checkup you're broke
想象一下，你因为身体不舒服去看医生，检查完之后你就破产了。
@Trump2024yo
some people literally avoid going to ER because they're not feeling well and end up dying from a heart attack to avoid bills
有些人确实避免去急诊室，因为他们感觉不舒服，但为了避免账单，最终死于心脏病，。
@user65286527
I repeatedly got vertigo in Indonesia, got ordered by Neurolog a skull MRI and paid 0, the insurance called JKN cost ca $10/month.
我在印度尼西亚反复眩晕，神经内科医生给我开了颅骨核磁共振，我一分钱没花，那个叫JKN的保险每月大约10美元。
@Hard man
In China, you may only need to spend 10 dollars.
在中国，你可能只需要花10美元。
@3dhzxart
如果有医保，医保报销9.5美元，自己需要付0.5美元。中国医保会每个月返还一部分现金到医保账户用于不能报销的部分，所以最终不需要自己从存款中动用任何一分钱。我上次肾结石医院看急诊、止疼药、超声波检查、一大堆扩张尿管的药物，账单接近100美元，报销完需要付款约9美元，用医保账户返现额扣款。所以我最终花费为0。
@Doina Airizer
I was at ER this past December after I past out and got a concusion bill $23 .000 for 6 hours of CT scans
去年12月我昏倒并脑震荡后去了急诊室，6小时的CT扫描账单是23000美元。
@Picuilla
The medical / pharma mafia
医疗/制药黑手党。
@marinapapacoach
this is so messed up!
这太糟糕了！
@(☞ ಠ◡ಠ)☞♀️
17k????
17000？
@Andrew Lim
I think the healthcare was designed to have maximum damage to Americans.
我认为医疗保健的设计是为了对美国人造成最大的损害。
@Picuilla
Agreed
同意。
@lzq010315
真的假的，就看个头晕和眩晕就花了这么多钱，如果在中国，你只需要花10人民币挂号，如果医生没检查出你有什么疾病，那你就只需要花费10人民币。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
What’s wrong with America’s health system is 100% greed and the government is backing it. I bet the cure for cancer is there but can’t make money off curing so it won’t get released.
美国医疗系统的问题百分之百是贪婪，而且政府还在支持它。我敢打赌癌症的治疗方法是存在的，但因为治愈无法赚钱，所以不会被公布。
@Gothic Sam
The plane with scientists who discovered cancer cure crashed and they were unalived. Coincidence???
发现癌症疗法的科学家乘坐的飞机坠毁，他们都死了。巧合吗？
@shuringan
It's not the medical system, it's the political system that's corrupted by lobbies. In most countries it would be the same if the government wouldn't allow it.
这不是医疗系统的问题，是政治系统被游说团体腐蚀了。在大多数国家，如果政府不允许，情况也会一样。
@AleAlejandro29
The worst part is people seem to like it because they do nothing to change it.
最糟糕的是人们似乎喜欢这样，因为他们什么都不做来改变它。
@cuiweiji
Everything is very wrong with US.
美国一切都糟透了。
@zacksun
12 years ago? that would be 2x the price by now
12年前？现在价格会翻倍的。
@yam_yummy_
America is a Corporation.
美国是一个公司。
@Abang Random
I broke my hand in Malaysia, and paid about $200 for the operation and hospitalization, and then i got $4000 paid to me because it happened when i was working. Sweet, free money.
我在马来西亚手骨折了，手术和住院花了大约200美元，然后因为是工伤，我得到了4000美元的赔偿。爽，免费的钱。
@Peaceguerilla
It works the way it was designed to work
它就是按设计好的方式运作的。
@misskuer
四個小時17000？他可以直接搶劫你，但他還是讓你休息了四個小時，他好溫柔
@Tay Calvin193
Crazy! But your country afford to increase military fund
太疯狂了！但是你的国家有钱增加军费。
@爱吃西红柿
你们干脆去墨西哥巴西这些地方看病得了
@十三幺
多少？？？？？？？？
@.
They also take the time in the bill???
他们还在账单里计时间吗？
@elloello9
It’s because of the insurance companies. They ruined healthcare.
那是因为保险公司。他们毁了医疗保健。
@Sobranee-
Whatttttt ???? I prefer to die instead of paying such money LOL
什么？？？？？我宁愿死也不愿付那种钱，哈哈。
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@Phil
It’s very fast but what I dont like is the lack of privacy. You have multiple patients in the same room.
速度很快，但我不喜欢的是缺乏隐私。你和多个病人在同一个房间里。
@prajitoruldinozzz2
Phil, stop it…. 1 question: 7000$ for a solo room or 70$ with 3 other people?
菲尔，别这样……一个问题：7000美元住单人房还是70美元和另外三个人住？
@Flobba Job
Problem with that is it should be a solo room. There’s only multiple people because they won’t wait a couple of meters away in the waiting area and instead stand in the doorway
问题是那应该是个单人房。之所以有多个人，是因为他们不愿意在等候区等几米远，而是站在门口。
@Andrie Pranandu
What privacy you need for metacarpal fracture?
掌骨骨折你需要什么隐私？
@Lili 1234
people can choose doctor and private room, just different price
人们可以选择医生和私人房间，只是价格不同。
@Phil
Good to know.
很高兴了解了。
@Yuuu
It depends, some doctors would ask people wait outside
这取决于情况，有些医生会要求人们在外面等。
@Omar
because social develop so fast，old people is not used to adapting new way
因为社会发展太快，老年人不习惯适应新方式。
@signalfromafar
I would take treatment over any hypotical privacy issue
我宁愿接受治疗，也不愿考虑任何假设的隐私问题。
@hannigramads
i think it depends on the hospital cuz in my city the doctor always asks others to go outside
我认为这取决于医院，因为在我所在的城市，医生总是要求其他人出去。
@idekwtda
LAUGHABLE
可笑。
@sphen
different cultures deal with privacy in different ways...
不同的文化处理隐私的方式不同。
@Hamsterking
It’s not like you have you’re wee wee stuck
又不是你的小JJ被卡住了。
@Eitachie
4k just because you want a privacy room ??
只因为你想要一个私人房间就花4000美元？
@Zandemah
There is def an option for you to pay more at private hospital if you are willing to.
如果你愿意，肯定有在私立医院支付更多费用的选择。
@Tyr0004
With such situation but was assisted by the doctor very efficiently and costs $71 on everything, thoughts about the lack of privacy is so petty to be talked about
在这种情况下，医生非常高效地提供了帮助，所有费用才71美元，谈论缺乏隐私的问题显得太小气了。
@Changyi Liu
Yeah. Privacy and human right.
是的。隐私和人权。
@Phil
Please don’t make it political.
请不要把它政治化。
@Changyi Liu
Point taken. My apologies.
我明白了。很抱歉。
@Aaron Yap
I know what you mean. And sometimes other nosey patients look at you while you are explaning your condition to your doctor. That's so rude.
我懂你的意思。有时其他爱管闲事的病人会在你向医生解释病情时看着你。那太粗鲁了。
@saloum saloum
yes,after getting your privacy you pay 20.000$
是的，获得隐私后你要支付2万美元。
@p1
You are one of those aren’t you…
你就是那种人，对吧……
@kestutisvedegys
The privacy is for serious conditions for something broke. bone or other common stuff it's not private cause why?
隐私是针对严重病情的。对于骨折或其他常见情况，它不是私密的，为什么呢？
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@jjj232706
not in America. that'll be 10 grand at least and you'll be there 12 to 18 hours
在美国可不是这样。那至少要一万美元，你得在那里待12到18个小时。
@ateate
12 to 18 hrs not even possible. you will actually be lucky to get treatment same day
12到18小时根本不可能。你当天能得到治疗就谢天谢地了。
@Jack Applegate
100% - I had a friend who had a window shatter on his hand. They sat him for 3 hours just waiting for a doctor to do an uation…
100%——我有个朋友，他的手被窗户玻璃划伤了。他们让他坐了3个小时，就等着医生来做一个评估……
@1977Photography
My niece broke her ankle/leg over a week ago & had to wait until today to see ortho to decide if she needs surgery.
我侄女一周多前脚踝/腿骨折了，不得不等到今天才去看骨科医生，决定是否需要手术。
@Ronnie Santos
Just for the dr to be like ”yeah looks smashed” then bill insurance $500
就为了医生说一句“嗯，看起来是粉碎性骨折”，然后向保险公司收取500美元的费用。
@Winchester
That’s normal. Not an emergency
那很正常。不是紧急情况。
@Mav
These are nice in a lifetime occurrences
这些都是一生中难得一遇的好事。
@Jack Applegate
You’re not far off…
你离得不远了……
@1977Photography
It’s broken in 3 places. How is that not something that needs addressed? The Dr she saw today scheduled surgery
它断了三处。这难道不需要处理吗？她今天看的医生安排了手术。
@Josh Sills
that maybe the er vist is to make it stable until a specialist can make a time to see her? I guarantee the first er vist was under 3 hours...I'm not wrong
急诊室就诊可能是为了稳定病情，直到专家能安排时间看她？我保证第一次急诊室就诊不到3小时……我没说错。
@ateate
u r trying to say they will fix a broken arm on the same day and not refer u to another specialist on another day, and then charge u for emergency visit. bc that is exactly what happened
你是不是想说他们会在同一天修好断臂，而不是把你转给另一个专家在另一天看，然后向你收取急诊费。因为这就是实际发生的情况。
@Josh Sills
r u trying to redact the fact that you said 12/18 hours without treatment?
a cast after x ray is treatment in any country. you're not telling the full story
你是不是想否认你说的12/18小时没有治疗的事实？X光后打石膏在任何国家都是治疗。你没有讲完整件事。
@Josh Sills
u people act like scheduling a specialist is like walking into a 7/11.
你们这些人表现得好像预约专科医生就像走进24小时便利店一样简单。
@ateate
visiting emergency room, not getting treatment and getting charged a ton is 1 problem. 2nd problem is seeing an orthopedic shouldn't be that expensive and take so long to schedule
去急诊室，没有得到治疗却被收取巨额费用是一个问题。第二个问题是看骨科不应该那么贵，而且预约时间那么长。
@Kierra
This! My insurance denied my MRI for back issues a few days ago. My doctor appealed it and my insurance denied the appeal today. It’s so frustrating! I’ve done the things they’ve asked me to as well
就是这样！我的保险几天前拒绝了我的背部核磁共振检查。我的医生提出了上诉，我的保险今天又拒绝了上诉。太令人沮丧了！我也做了他们要求我做的事情。
@Josh Sills
k well you went to an er and got treatment don't act like u didn't.
2nd orthopedic treatment does have a bit of a waiting period but u acting like u sat 18 hours before someone saw u is an outright li
就是这样！几天前，我的保险拒绝支付我做腰部核磁共振（MRI）的费用。我的医生提出了申诉，但我的保险今天又拒绝了申诉。这太让人沮丧了！我已经按照他们的要求做了所有事情。
@anthonyguinn2
In America I lived in multiple states and broke multiple bones. Usually there for 3-4 hrs max.
在美国，我住过好几个州，也摔断过好几根骨头。通常最多在那里待3-4小时。
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@Sarah
In Shanghai in 2008, I had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, given 4 IV bags for dehydration, a night in the hospital, multiple visits by a specialist… $400 USD.
2008年在上海，我不得不乘坐救护车被送到医院，因为脱水输了4袋点滴，在医院住了一晚，专科医生多次探视……只花了400美元。
@Andrés Maximiliano
Did you ever go to Bar Rouge? I was there in 08 as well!
你有没有去过Bar Rouge？我2008年也在那里！
@Moserary
Creep. Bar Rouge is awesome. The west can never.
怪胎。Bar Rouge太棒了。西方永远无法企及。
（译注：Bar Rouge 是上海一家非常著名的酒吧，位于外滩18号的7楼。它于2004年11月开业，迅速成为上海夜生活的标志性场所。Bar Rouge 以法式风格为主，装修奢华，氛围浪漫，整体色调以红色为主，非常符合其名字“Rouge”（法语中“红色”的意思））
@Sarah
Unfortunately, I don’t get to see much. I was on a choice tour and we were only there a short time - arrived the day I got sick and left the morning after I was released from the hospital.
不幸的是，我没能看到太多。我参加的是一个精选旅行团，我们只在那里待了很短的时间——我生病的那天到达，出院后的第二天早上就离开了。
@Andrés Maximiliano
I was there for a year and loved it so much! You need to go back and visit! It’s crazy how much more advanced they are than us!
我在那里待了一年，非常喜欢！你需要回去看看！他们比我们先进太多了，太疯狂了！
@Le Baboon
that would be 50 usd in my country
那在我国家要50美元。
@Daus Haus 菲尔道斯
So is it considered cheap or affordable ?
那这算是便宜还是实惠？
@Jenny
To you $400 dollars may be not much, but it is to native citizens
对你来说400美元可能不算多，但对当地居民来说却不少。
@wowhaihai
FYI salaries in Shanghai are on par with American average wages today.
供你参考，上海的工资水平现在与美国平均工资持平。
@Forest Eagle
Feel bad for you. You should revisit, Shanghai is much better today the air is much cleaner but the costs haven't go up that much.
真替你难过。你应该再去看看，今天的上海好多了，空气也更干净了，但费用并没有涨那么多。
@Aanneland
So you wee lucky that you got sick on vacation?
Because if that happened in US you would be personally bankrupt.
所以你很幸运在度假时生病了？因为如果这发生在美国，你就会个人破产。
@Sarah
No. I was there on a choir tour in college and almost died. My room mate saved my life. I remember collapsing and the position I was in was hard to breathe but I couldn’t move.
不。我当时在大学参加合唱团巡演，差点死了。我的室友救了我的命。我记得当时我倒下了，那个姿势让我呼吸困难，我动不了。
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@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
In Germany you can have an appointment 6 months later
在德国，你可能要六个月后才能预约到。
@shaz
here in Australia I got sent to see specialist for possible knee replacement it's been 6 mths still don't even have an appointment and could be mths still
在澳大利亚，我被转介去看专家，可能是要做膝关节置换，已经六个月了，我甚至还没有预约到，可能还要等好几个月。
@fuhua
Impossible, he recovered on his own in a month.
不可能，他一个月就自己康复了。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wow even worse
哇，更糟了。
@lijie
Is your wound healed now
你的伤口现在愈合了吗？
@BettyPage1972
At least it’s free!!
至少是免费的！
@shaz
nope it won't heal its needs a replacement.... not holding my breath though. :)
不，它不会愈合，需要更换……但我并不抱太大希望。
@shaz
LOL getting nothing done is free ? should be but yes I get your point
哈哈，什么都没做是免费的吗？应该是吧，但我明白你的意思。
@brother모01
In America, without insurance, people don't get a knee replacement.
在美国，没有保险的人是不能做膝关节置换的。
@shaz
I understand but what you understand it was never like this in Australia..our health system was spot on but in the last 10 yrs or less it's just gone to the dogs it's not right
我明白，但你所理解的是，澳大利亚以前从来不是这样的……我们的医疗系统一直很完善，但在过去十年甚至更短的时间里，它变得一塌糊涂，这不对劲。
@brother모01
Probably because it relies on private insurance system taking a cut and profiting off declining service.
可能是因为它依赖于私人保险系统从中抽取提成并从服务质量下降中获利。
@shaz
yes they trying to make everyone have private all while making it ridiculously expensive
是的，他们试图让每个人都拥有私人保险，同时又把它弄得极其昂贵。
@NonyaBTT
In America you’ll be waiting 8 months just to be told you didn’t get a referral or prior authorization, then wait 4 more, then get a 10k bill when your insurance denies it anyway.
在美国，你得等上8个月才会被告知你没有获得转诊或事先授权，然后又等4个月，然后当你的保险仍然拒绝支付时，你会收到一张1万美元的账单。
@shaz
and our countries call Asia third world !!!
而我们国家却称亚洲是第三世界！！！
@remm1966
Und das bei 12000 Euro Krankenversicherungsbeitrag im Jahr...
一年12000欧元的医疗保险费……
@Diana
Aber doch nicht bei einem Knochenbruch, der wird in jeder Notaufnahme gegipst und geröngt
但骨折肯定不是这样，任何急诊室都会打石膏和X光检查。
@GanLiza
Ja, in Luxembourg too
是的，卢森堡也是。
@Karz
Same in Austria
奥地利也一样。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Over the years it got worse and worse
这些年越来越糟了。
@Graug_RSA
Then why did I get an appointment the same day when I fell and hurt my back in Düsseldorf?
那为什么我在杜塞尔多夫摔倒伤了背，当天就约到了医生？
@Till Mertens
10 Euros per day..but nothing more…even if heart surgery..
每天10欧元……但仅此而已……即使是心脏手术。
@sickmoon
keine Ahnung welches Krankenhaus du besuchst. bei uns kann man auch in die Rettungsstelle mit Bruch. musst halt meistens warten
不知道你去了哪家医院。我们这里骨折也可以去急诊室。不过大多数时候都得等。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wenn du wüsstest. In den meist unterbesetzten Notaufnahmen wird man hier auch nicht mehr anständig versorgt.
如果你知道的话。在这里，大多数人手不足的急诊室也得不到适当的治疗。
@Shu Chen
都自愈了
@shaz
I'm looking into going to India to have my kneed fixed
我正在考虑去印度做膝盖手术。
@❤︎₍˄·͈༝·͈˄*₎◞ ̑̑
That’s why Chinese students in Germany once we get injured, we’d rather book a flight ticket to go back home for the treatment. I’m serious
这就是为什么在德国的中国学生一旦受伤，我们宁愿订机票回国治疗。我是认真的。
@BettyPage1972
It’s a wait, but it’s free!
确实要等，但它是免费的！
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@Official Internet Judge
US: 3 hrs in the ER, you haven’t met your deductible so $1500.
美国：急诊室待3小时，但如果你还没达到保险免赔额，所以还是得支付1500美元。
（译注：免赔额是指达到多少钱，保险才开始给报销的额度值。）
@Mahmuda
Plus another bill from us acute care for the physicians bill
再加上美国急症护理中心开的另一张医生费账单。
@Steve Louis
er visit in ny $6500, no joke
纽约急诊室就诊费6500美元，不开玩笑。
@elam
that's sounds like it
听起来就是这样。
@Bobby Flay
I once sat in the er waiting room for 7 hrs
我曾经在急诊室等了7个小时。
@Shari
Oh but if you have met your deductible it’s a $250 copay plus $3000: $1000 ECG $500 IV Fluid etc
哦，但如果你已经达到了免赔额，就需要支付250美元的自付额：再加上3000美元：1000美元的心电图（ECG）、500美元的静脉输液等。
@Trump2024yo
my ER visit was $6500 out of pocket, that was my deductible... sad
我的急诊室就诊自付了6500美元，那就是我的免赔额……悲伤。
@k1ngd0m
1500 if you're lucky. some people have $3,000 or $5,000 deductibles. some even higher. And then they miscode everything and insurance doesn't cover it and then it's a big headache trying to get it sor
如果你幸运的话是免赔额是1500美元。有些人有3000或5000美元的免赔额。有些甚至更高。然后他们把所有东西都编码错误，保险不报销，然后要处理起来就非常头疼。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
Separate bills for ER, physicians, medical supplies, any medicines, scans/x-rays, plus any other fees they can throw in.
急诊室、医生、医疗用品、任何药物、扫描/X光片以及他们能加上的任何其他费用都有单独的账单。
@JonnyBravo
I do self pay and it’s cheaper than insurance. I had a doctor visit it’s 170 without insurance and 200 with insurance. The actual price is 400 but they give you a discount self pay
我选择自费，比用保险便宜。我看医生，没有保险是170美元，有保险是200美元。实际价格是400美元，但自费会给你折扣。
@LuvDew68
How does that work when you file taxes? I thought we were “required” to have insurance? It’s all such a messed up system
你报税的时候怎么处理呢？我以为我们“必须”有保险？这整个系统真是一团糟。
@Official Internet Judge
Considering $200 for a simple visit “cheap” is insane.
认为一次简单就诊200美元“便宜”，真疯狂。
@Vq_guy
3 hours? Try 6
3小时？试试6小时。
@Janeytsha
For an MRI and a tylenol IV $34,000
一次核磁共振和泰诺静脉注射34000美元。
@joeintexas
no way $1500. a blood test is $1000 in ER
不可能1500美元。急诊室验血就要1000美元。
@Official Internet Judge
No visit fees? No nothing else? You saying ONLY blood test fee of $1000 is all they will ever charge?
没有就诊费？没有其他费用吗？你是说他们只会收取1000美元的验血费吗？
@joeintexas
no. I'm saying that test alone is a grand... so all the medical care listed would be much more than $1500 in the US
不。我是说光那个检查就要一千美元……所以列出的所有医疗费用在美国会远远超过1500美元。
@JustNrik
$1500 is dirt cheap, my brother had diarrhea and he got charged $15k for all day treatment, insurance covered almost all of it but still
1500美元简直是便宜得离谱了，我弟弟腹泻，全天治疗被收了1.5万美元，保险几乎全报销了，但还是……
@Lucy Balli
You forgot to add, how would you like to pay for that.
你忘了补充，你想怎么支付呢。
@elam
no way.....way more
不可能……多得多。
@Sarahwsu20
You got a coupon! Or a discount! Lol
你拿到优惠券了吧！或者折扣！哈哈。
@Rob
About 7-8 hrs in ER in my town….i’d rather bleed out I think…
在我镇上急诊室大概要等7-8小时……我想我宁愿失血过多。
@One Majestic Unicorn
And another 300 bucks for the lab work they sent out to an outside oon lab.
还有另外300美元是他们送到外面医院体系外的实验室的化验费。
@One Majestic Unicorn
Bc they will want lab work for a broken bone bc idk why
因为他们会对骨折要求化验，我也不知道为什么。
@Ohsee83
$1,500!? Ha, try adding a few zeros.
1500美元？！哈，试试加几个零。
@中华复兴
So if you are sick, you can take a plane to China
所以如果你生病了，你可以坐飞机去中国。
@Lesley Black
That’s a steal! My deductible is $7k!
这简直是抢劫！我的免赔额是7000美元！
@israelavila2435
3 hours? Try 6-12
3小时？试试6-12小时。
@G Vilk
Most people would just tape their finger to the one next to it and hope for the best.
大多数人只会把手指和旁边的粘在一起，然后听天由命。
@joshuadsn
well I'd rather have freedom of speech, religion, and of my body in the us.
好吧，我宁愿在美国拥有言论、宗教和身体自由。
@Official Internet Judge
All of the advanced nations have those and universal healthcare. In the US you have an illusion of those, and then also pay exponentially more for healthcare.
所有发达国家都拥有这些和全民医疗保健。在美国，你拥有这些的幻觉，然后还要为医疗保健支付指数级的费用。
@joshuadsn
and healthcare in the US is reliable. plus your completely ignoring insurance. look at Canada, free but very bad health care.
而且美国的医疗保健是可靠的。此外你完全忽略了保险。看看加拿大，免费但医疗保健很差。
@pirate_ass_rash
You must live in a bad area and have bad insurance
你肯定住在糟糕的地区，保险也很差。
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@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
in Italy you have to wait about 12h . eventually you get the X-RAYS and the visit, but it's for free or for a very small amount of money
在意大利，你大约要等12小时。最终你会得到X光检查和就诊，但它是免费的或者只需要很少的钱。
@ODH
i fell last year in Italy on a slippery rock in the Alps, went to a hospital in Torino and i got a xray and stiches in less than 1 hr. went super smooth, cost me less than 40 euros also...
去年我在意大利阿尔卑斯山的一块湿滑的岩石上摔倒了，去了都灵的一家医院，不到1小时就拍了X光片和缝了针。非常顺利，也只花了我不到40欧元……
@~Dave.Pld
In italia da quando ti visitano l’osso è tornato apposto
在意大利，等你见到医生，骨头都自己长好了。
@Lore
ero ironico
我是在开玩笑。
@Lore
si ma abbiamo il sole, mare e pizza
是啊，但我们有阳光、大海和披萨。
@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
dodici ore è il tempo medio
12小时是平均等待时间。
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@user5053740178928
here in the states, I went to the ER for 4 hours dying from stomach pain, I was not treated, but walked out owing $2100
在美国，我因为胃痛在急诊室待了4个小时，感觉快死了，但没有得到治疗，最后却欠了2100美元。
@Elizabeth May
$2100 for what?
2100美元是为什么？
@Mahdi.2
Did you had insurance
你有保险吗？
@Peter M.
he had insurance, but it kicks in only after 10k
他有保险，但只有在达到1万美元之后才生效。
@fabian robledo
some ibuprofen and send u out the door
给你点布洛芬就把你打发走了。
@user5053740178928
the doctor came in and shook my hand, gave me one antibiotic in a tiny cup, said it was likely diverticulosis and that it was probably viral with no underlying cause. they did one blood work panel.
医生进来跟我握了手，给了我一小杯抗生素，说可能是憩室炎，而且可能是病毒性的，没有潜在原因。他们做了一次血检。
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@Picuilla
In Miami about 12 years ago I went to emergency for dizziness and vertigo, I was there 4 hours with Physician Asistan, no MD, bill $17,995.00. Something is very wrong with USA medical system.
大约12年前，我在迈阿密因为头晕和眩晕去了急诊室，我在那里待了4个小时，只有医生助理，没有医生，账单是17995美元。美国的医疗系统出了大问题。
@Katy & Timo ❤️
imagine going to the doc because you're not feeling very good and after the checkup you're broke
想象一下，你因为身体不舒服去看医生，检查完之后你就破产了。
@Trump2024yo
some people literally avoid going to ER because they're not feeling well and end up dying from a heart attack to avoid bills
有些人确实避免去急诊室，因为他们感觉不舒服，但为了避免账单，最终死于心脏病，。
@user65286527
I repeatedly got vertigo in Indonesia, got ordered by Neurolog a skull MRI and paid 0, the insurance called JKN cost ca $10/month.
我在印度尼西亚反复眩晕，神经内科医生给我开了颅骨核磁共振，我一分钱没花，那个叫JKN的保险每月大约10美元。
@Hard man
In China, you may only need to spend 10 dollars.
在中国，你可能只需要花10美元。
@3dhzxart
如果有医保，医保报销9.5美元，自己需要付0.5美元。中国医保会每个月返还一部分现金到医保账户用于不能报销的部分，所以最终不需要自己从存款中动用任何一分钱。我上次肾结石医院看急诊、止疼药、超声波检查、一大堆扩张尿管的药物，账单接近100美元，报销完需要付款约9美元，用医保账户返现额扣款。所以我最终花费为0。
@Doina Airizer
I was at ER this past December after I past out and got a concusion bill $23 .000 for 6 hours of CT scans
去年12月我昏倒并脑震荡后去了急诊室，6小时的CT扫描账单是23000美元。
@Picuilla
The medical / pharma mafia
医疗/制药黑手党。
@marinapapacoach
this is so messed up!
这太糟糕了！
@(☞ ಠ◡ಠ)☞♀️
17k????
17000？
@Andrew Lim
I think the healthcare was designed to have maximum damage to Americans.
我认为医疗保健的设计是为了对美国人造成最大的损害。
@Picuilla
Agreed
同意。
@lzq010315
真的假的，就看个头晕和眩晕就花了这么多钱，如果在中国，你只需要花10人民币挂号，如果医生没检查出你有什么疾病，那你就只需要花费10人民币。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
What’s wrong with America’s health system is 100% greed and the government is backing it. I bet the cure for cancer is there but can’t make money off curing so it won’t get released.
美国医疗系统的问题百分之百是贪婪，而且政府还在支持它。我敢打赌癌症的治疗方法是存在的，但因为治愈无法赚钱，所以不会被公布。
@Gothic Sam
The plane with scientists who discovered cancer cure crashed and they were unalived. Coincidence???
发现癌症疗法的科学家乘坐的飞机坠毁，他们都死了。巧合吗？
@shuringan
It's not the medical system, it's the political system that's corrupted by lobbies. In most countries it would be the same if the government wouldn't allow it.
这不是医疗系统的问题，是政治系统被游说团体腐蚀了。在大多数国家，如果政府不允许，情况也会一样。
@AleAlejandro29
The worst part is people seem to like it because they do nothing to change it.
最糟糕的是人们似乎喜欢这样，因为他们什么都不做来改变它。
@cuiweiji
Everything is very wrong with US.
美国一切都糟透了。
@zacksun
12 years ago? that would be 2x the price by now
12年前？现在价格会翻倍的。
@yam_yummy_
America is a Corporation.
美国是一个公司。
@Abang Random
I broke my hand in Malaysia, and paid about $200 for the operation and hospitalization, and then i got $4000 paid to me because it happened when i was working. Sweet, free money.
我在马来西亚手骨折了，手术和住院花了大约200美元，然后因为是工伤，我得到了4000美元的赔偿。爽，免费的钱。
@Peaceguerilla
It works the way it was designed to work
它就是按设计好的方式运作的。
@misskuer
四個小時17000？他可以直接搶劫你，但他還是讓你休息了四個小時，他好溫柔
@Tay Calvin193
Crazy! But your country afford to increase military fund
太疯狂了！但是你的国家有钱增加军费。
@爱吃西红柿
你们干脆去墨西哥巴西这些地方看病得了
@十三幺
多少？？？？？？？？
@.
They also take the time in the bill???
他们还在账单里计时间吗？
@elloello9
It’s because of the insurance companies. They ruined healthcare.
那是因为保险公司。他们毁了医疗保健。
@Sobranee-
Whatttttt ???? I prefer to die instead of paying such money LOL
什么？？？？？我宁愿死也不愿付那种钱，哈哈。
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@Phil
It’s very fast but what I dont like is the lack of privacy. You have multiple patients in the same room.
速度很快，但我不喜欢的是缺乏隐私。你和多个病人在同一个房间里。
@prajitoruldinozzz2
Phil, stop it…. 1 question: 7000$ for a solo room or 70$ with 3 other people?
菲尔，别这样……一个问题：7000美元住单人房还是70美元和另外三个人住？
@Flobba Job
Problem with that is it should be a solo room. There’s only multiple people because they won’t wait a couple of meters away in the waiting area and instead stand in the doorway
问题是那应该是个单人房。之所以有多个人，是因为他们不愿意在等候区等几米远，而是站在门口。
@Andrie Pranandu
What privacy you need for metacarpal fracture?
掌骨骨折你需要什么隐私？
@Lili 1234
people can choose doctor and private room, just different price
人们可以选择医生和私人房间，只是价格不同。
@Phil
Good to know.
很高兴了解了。
@Yuuu
It depends, some doctors would ask people wait outside
这取决于情况，有些医生会要求人们在外面等。
@Omar
because social develop so fast，old people is not used to adapting new way
因为社会发展太快，老年人不习惯适应新方式。
@signalfromafar
I would take treatment over any hypotical privacy issue
我宁愿接受治疗，也不愿考虑任何假设的隐私问题。
@hannigramads
i think it depends on the hospital cuz in my city the doctor always asks others to go outside
我认为这取决于医院，因为在我所在的城市，医生总是要求其他人出去。
@idekwtda
LAUGHABLE
可笑。
@sphen
different cultures deal with privacy in different ways...
不同的文化处理隐私的方式不同。
@Hamsterking
It’s not like you have you’re wee wee stuck
又不是你的小JJ被卡住了。
@Eitachie
4k just because you want a privacy room ??
只因为你想要一个私人房间就花4000美元？
@Zandemah
There is def an option for you to pay more at private hospital if you are willing to.
如果你愿意，肯定有在私立医院支付更多费用的选择。
@Tyr0004
With such situation but was assisted by the doctor very efficiently and costs $71 on everything, thoughts about the lack of privacy is so petty to be talked about
在这种情况下，医生非常高效地提供了帮助，所有费用才71美元，谈论缺乏隐私的问题显得太小气了。
@Changyi Liu
Yeah. Privacy and human right.
是的。隐私和人权。
@Phil
Please don’t make it political.
请不要把它政治化。
@Changyi Liu
Point taken. My apologies.
我明白了。很抱歉。
@Aaron Yap
I know what you mean. And sometimes other nosey patients look at you while you are explaning your condition to your doctor. That's so rude.
我懂你的意思。有时其他爱管闲事的病人会在你向医生解释病情时看着你。那太粗鲁了。
@saloum saloum
yes,after getting your privacy you pay 20.000$
是的，获得隐私后你要支付2万美元。
@p1
You are one of those aren’t you…
你就是那种人，对吧……
@kestutisvedegys
The privacy is for serious conditions for something broke. bone or other common stuff it's not private cause why?
隐私是针对严重病情的。对于骨折或其他常见情况，它不是私密的，为什么呢？
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@jjj232706
not in America. that'll be 10 grand at least and you'll be there 12 to 18 hours
在美国可不是这样。那至少要一万美元，你得在那里待12到18个小时。
@ateate
12 to 18 hrs not even possible. you will actually be lucky to get treatment same day
12到18小时根本不可能。你当天能得到治疗就谢天谢地了。
@Jack Applegate
100% - I had a friend who had a window shatter on his hand. They sat him for 3 hours just waiting for a doctor to do an uation…
100%——我有个朋友，他的手被窗户玻璃划伤了。他们让他坐了3个小时，就等着医生来做一个评估……
@1977Photography
My niece broke her ankle/leg over a week ago & had to wait until today to see ortho to decide if she needs surgery.
我侄女一周多前脚踝/腿骨折了，不得不等到今天才去看骨科医生，决定是否需要手术。
@Ronnie Santos
Just for the dr to be like ”yeah looks smashed” then bill insurance $500
就为了医生说一句“嗯，看起来是粉碎性骨折”，然后向保险公司收取500美元的费用。
@Winchester
That’s normal. Not an emergency
那很正常。不是紧急情况。
@Mav
These are nice in a lifetime occurrences
这些都是一生中难得一遇的好事。
@Jack Applegate
You’re not far off…
你离得不远了……
@1977Photography
It’s broken in 3 places. How is that not something that needs addressed? The Dr she saw today scheduled surgery
它断了三处。这难道不需要处理吗？她今天看的医生安排了手术。
@Josh Sills
that maybe the er vist is to make it stable until a specialist can make a time to see her? I guarantee the first er vist was under 3 hours...I'm not wrong
急诊室就诊可能是为了稳定病情，直到专家能安排时间看她？我保证第一次急诊室就诊不到3小时……我没说错。
@ateate
u r trying to say they will fix a broken arm on the same day and not refer u to another specialist on another day, and then charge u for emergency visit. bc that is exactly what happened
你是不是想说他们会在同一天修好断臂，而不是把你转给另一个专家在另一天看，然后向你收取急诊费。因为这就是实际发生的情况。
@Josh Sills
r u trying to redact the fact that you said 12/18 hours without treatment?
a cast after x ray is treatment in any country. you're not telling the full story
你是不是想否认你说的12/18小时没有治疗的事实？X光后打石膏在任何国家都是治疗。你没有讲完整件事。
@Josh Sills
u people act like scheduling a specialist is like walking into a 7/11.
你们这些人表现得好像预约专科医生就像走进24小时便利店一样简单。
@ateate
visiting emergency room, not getting treatment and getting charged a ton is 1 problem. 2nd problem is seeing an orthopedic shouldn't be that expensive and take so long to schedule
去急诊室，没有得到治疗却被收取巨额费用是一个问题。第二个问题是看骨科不应该那么贵，而且预约时间那么长。
@Kierra
This! My insurance denied my MRI for back issues a few days ago. My doctor appealed it and my insurance denied the appeal today. It’s so frustrating! I’ve done the things they’ve asked me to as well
就是这样！我的保险几天前拒绝了我的背部核磁共振检查。我的医生提出了上诉，我的保险今天又拒绝了上诉。太令人沮丧了！我也做了他们要求我做的事情。
@Josh Sills
k well you went to an er and got treatment don't act like u didn't.
2nd orthopedic treatment does have a bit of a waiting period but u acting like u sat 18 hours before someone saw u is an outright li
就是这样！几天前，我的保险拒绝支付我做腰部核磁共振（MRI）的费用。我的医生提出了申诉，但我的保险今天又拒绝了申诉。这太让人沮丧了！我已经按照他们的要求做了所有事情。
@anthonyguinn2
In America I lived in multiple states and broke multiple bones. Usually there for 3-4 hrs max.
在美国，我住过好几个州，也摔断过好几根骨头。通常最多在那里待3-4小时。
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@Sarah
In Shanghai in 2008, I had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, given 4 IV bags for dehydration, a night in the hospital, multiple visits by a specialist… $400 USD.
2008年在上海，我不得不乘坐救护车被送到医院，因为脱水输了4袋点滴，在医院住了一晚，专科医生多次探视……只花了400美元。
@Andrés Maximiliano
Did you ever go to Bar Rouge? I was there in 08 as well!
你有没有去过Bar Rouge？我2008年也在那里！
@Moserary
Creep. Bar Rouge is awesome. The west can never.
怪胎。Bar Rouge太棒了。西方永远无法企及。
（译注：Bar Rouge 是上海一家非常著名的酒吧，位于外滩18号的7楼。它于2004年11月开业，迅速成为上海夜生活的标志性场所。Bar Rouge 以法式风格为主，装修奢华，氛围浪漫，整体色调以红色为主，非常符合其名字“Rouge”（法语中“红色”的意思））
@Sarah
Unfortunately, I don’t get to see much. I was on a choice tour and we were only there a short time - arrived the day I got sick and left the morning after I was released from the hospital.
不幸的是，我没能看到太多。我参加的是一个精选旅行团，我们只在那里待了很短的时间——我生病的那天到达，出院后的第二天早上就离开了。
@Andrés Maximiliano
I was there for a year and loved it so much! You need to go back and visit! It’s crazy how much more advanced they are than us!
我在那里待了一年，非常喜欢！你需要回去看看！他们比我们先进太多了，太疯狂了！
@Le Baboon
that would be 50 usd in my country
那在我国家要50美元。
@Daus Haus 菲尔道斯
So is it considered cheap or affordable ?
那这算是便宜还是实惠？
@Jenny
To you $400 dollars may be not much, but it is to native citizens
对你来说400美元可能不算多，但对当地居民来说却不少。
@wowhaihai
FYI salaries in Shanghai are on par with American average wages today.
供你参考，上海的工资水平现在与美国平均工资持平。
@Forest Eagle
Feel bad for you. You should revisit, Shanghai is much better today the air is much cleaner but the costs haven't go up that much.
真替你难过。你应该再去看看，今天的上海好多了，空气也更干净了，但费用并没有涨那么多。
@Aanneland
So you wee lucky that you got sick on vacation?
Because if that happened in US you would be personally bankrupt.
所以你很幸运在度假时生病了？因为如果这发生在美国，你就会个人破产。
@Sarah
No. I was there on a choir tour in college and almost died. My room mate saved my life. I remember collapsing and the position I was in was hard to breathe but I couldn’t move.
不。我当时在大学参加合唱团巡演，差点死了。我的室友救了我的命。我记得当时我倒下了，那个姿势让我呼吸困难，我动不了。
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@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
In Germany you can have an appointment 6 months later
在德国，你可能要六个月后才能预约到。
@shaz
here in Australia I got sent to see specialist for possible knee replacement it's been 6 mths still don't even have an appointment and could be mths still
在澳大利亚，我被转介去看专家，可能是要做膝关节置换，已经六个月了，我甚至还没有预约到，可能还要等好几个月。
@fuhua
Impossible, he recovered on his own in a month.
不可能，他一个月就自己康复了。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wow even worse
哇，更糟了。
@lijie
Is your wound healed now
你的伤口现在愈合了吗？
@BettyPage1972
At least it’s free!!
至少是免费的！
@shaz
nope it won't heal its needs a replacement.... not holding my breath though. :)
不，它不会愈合，需要更换……但我并不抱太大希望。
@shaz
LOL getting nothing done is free ? should be but yes I get your point
哈哈，什么都没做是免费的吗？应该是吧，但我明白你的意思。
@brother모01
In America, without insurance, people don't get a knee replacement.
在美国，没有保险的人是不能做膝关节置换的。
@shaz
I understand but what you understand it was never like this in Australia..our health system was spot on but in the last 10 yrs or less it's just gone to the dogs it's not right
我明白，但你所理解的是，澳大利亚以前从来不是这样的……我们的医疗系统一直很完善，但在过去十年甚至更短的时间里，它变得一塌糊涂，这不对劲。
@brother모01
Probably because it relies on private insurance system taking a cut and profiting off declining service.
可能是因为它依赖于私人保险系统从中抽取提成并从服务质量下降中获利。
@shaz
yes they trying to make everyone have private all while making it ridiculously expensive
是的，他们试图让每个人都拥有私人保险，同时又把它弄得极其昂贵。
@NonyaBTT
In America you’ll be waiting 8 months just to be told you didn’t get a referral or prior authorization, then wait 4 more, then get a 10k bill when your insurance denies it anyway.
在美国，你得等上8个月才会被告知你没有获得转诊或事先授权，然后又等4个月，然后当你的保险仍然拒绝支付时，你会收到一张1万美元的账单。
@shaz
and our countries call Asia third world !!!
而我们国家却称亚洲是第三世界！！！
@remm1966
Und das bei 12000 Euro Krankenversicherungsbeitrag im Jahr...
一年12000欧元的医疗保险费……
@Diana
Aber doch nicht bei einem Knochenbruch, der wird in jeder Notaufnahme gegipst und geröngt
但骨折肯定不是这样，任何急诊室都会打石膏和X光检查。
@GanLiza
Ja, in Luxembourg too
是的，卢森堡也是。
@Karz
Same in Austria
奥地利也一样。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Over the years it got worse and worse
这些年越来越糟了。
@Graug_RSA
Then why did I get an appointment the same day when I fell and hurt my back in Düsseldorf?
那为什么我在杜塞尔多夫摔倒伤了背，当天就约到了医生？
@Till Mertens
10 Euros per day..but nothing more…even if heart surgery..
每天10欧元……但仅此而已……即使是心脏手术。
@sickmoon
keine Ahnung welches Krankenhaus du besuchst. bei uns kann man auch in die Rettungsstelle mit Bruch. musst halt meistens warten
不知道你去了哪家医院。我们这里骨折也可以去急诊室。不过大多数时候都得等。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wenn du wüsstest. In den meist unterbesetzten Notaufnahmen wird man hier auch nicht mehr anständig versorgt.
如果你知道的话。在这里，大多数人手不足的急诊室也得不到适当的治疗。
@Shu Chen
都自愈了
@shaz
I'm looking into going to India to have my kneed fixed
我正在考虑去印度做膝盖手术。
@❤︎₍˄·͈༝·͈˄*₎◞ ̑̑
That’s why Chinese students in Germany once we get injured, we’d rather book a flight ticket to go back home for the treatment. I’m serious
这就是为什么在德国的中国学生一旦受伤，我们宁愿订机票回国治疗。我是认真的。
@BettyPage1972
It’s a wait, but it’s free!
确实要等，但它是免费的！
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@Official Internet Judge
US: 3 hrs in the ER, you haven’t met your deductible so $1500.
美国：急诊室待3小时，但如果你还没达到保险免赔额，所以还是得支付1500美元。
（译注：免赔额是指达到多少钱，保险才开始给报销的额度值。）
@Mahmuda
Plus another bill from us acute care for the physicians bill
再加上美国急症护理中心开的另一张医生费账单。
@Steve Louis
er visit in ny $6500, no joke
纽约急诊室就诊费6500美元，不开玩笑。
@elam
that's sounds like it
听起来就是这样。
@Bobby Flay
I once sat in the er waiting room for 7 hrs
我曾经在急诊室等了7个小时。
@Shari
Oh but if you have met your deductible it’s a $250 copay plus $3000: $1000 ECG $500 IV Fluid etc
哦，但如果你已经达到了免赔额，就需要支付250美元的自付额：再加上3000美元：1000美元的心电图（ECG）、500美元的静脉输液等。
@Trump2024yo
my ER visit was $6500 out of pocket, that was my deductible... sad
我的急诊室就诊自付了6500美元，那就是我的免赔额……悲伤。
@k1ngd0m
1500 if you're lucky. some people have $3,000 or $5,000 deductibles. some even higher. And then they miscode everything and insurance doesn't cover it and then it's a big headache trying to get it sor
如果你幸运的话是免赔额是1500美元。有些人有3000或5000美元的免赔额。有些甚至更高。然后他们把所有东西都编码错误，保险不报销，然后要处理起来就非常头疼。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
Separate bills for ER, physicians, medical supplies, any medicines, scans/x-rays, plus any other fees they can throw in.
急诊室、医生、医疗用品、任何药物、扫描/X光片以及他们能加上的任何其他费用都有单独的账单。
@JonnyBravo
I do self pay and it’s cheaper than insurance. I had a doctor visit it’s 170 without insurance and 200 with insurance. The actual price is 400 but they give you a discount self pay
我选择自费，比用保险便宜。我看医生，没有保险是170美元，有保险是200美元。实际价格是400美元，但自费会给你折扣。
@LuvDew68
How does that work when you file taxes? I thought we were “required” to have insurance? It’s all such a messed up system
你报税的时候怎么处理呢？我以为我们“必须”有保险？这整个系统真是一团糟。
@Official Internet Judge
Considering $200 for a simple visit “cheap” is insane.
认为一次简单就诊200美元“便宜”，真疯狂。
@Vq_guy
3 hours? Try 6
3小时？试试6小时。
@Janeytsha
For an MRI and a tylenol IV $34,000
一次核磁共振和泰诺静脉注射34000美元。
@joeintexas
no way $1500. a blood test is $1000 in ER
不可能1500美元。急诊室验血就要1000美元。
@Official Internet Judge
No visit fees? No nothing else? You saying ONLY blood test fee of $1000 is all they will ever charge?
没有就诊费？没有其他费用吗？你是说他们只会收取1000美元的验血费吗？
@joeintexas
no. I'm saying that test alone is a grand... so all the medical care listed would be much more than $1500 in the US
不。我是说光那个检查就要一千美元……所以列出的所有医疗费用在美国会远远超过1500美元。
@JustNrik
$1500 is dirt cheap, my brother had diarrhea and he got charged $15k for all day treatment, insurance covered almost all of it but still
1500美元简直是便宜得离谱了，我弟弟腹泻，全天治疗被收了1.5万美元，保险几乎全报销了，但还是……
@Lucy Balli
You forgot to add, how would you like to pay for that.
你忘了补充，你想怎么支付呢。
@elam
no way.....way more
不可能……多得多。
@Sarahwsu20
You got a coupon! Or a discount! Lol
你拿到优惠券了吧！或者折扣！哈哈。
@Rob
About 7-8 hrs in ER in my town….i’d rather bleed out I think…
在我镇上急诊室大概要等7-8小时……我想我宁愿失血过多。
@One Majestic Unicorn
And another 300 bucks for the lab work they sent out to an outside oon lab.
还有另外300美元是他们送到外面医院体系外的实验室的化验费。
@One Majestic Unicorn
Bc they will want lab work for a broken bone bc idk why
因为他们会对骨折要求化验，我也不知道为什么。
@Ohsee83
$1,500!? Ha, try adding a few zeros.
1500美元？！哈，试试加几个零。
@中华复兴
So if you are sick, you can take a plane to China
所以如果你生病了，你可以坐飞机去中国。
@Lesley Black
That’s a steal! My deductible is $7k!
这简直是抢劫！我的免赔额是7000美元！
@israelavila2435
3 hours? Try 6-12
3小时？试试6-12小时。
@G Vilk
Most people would just tape their finger to the one next to it and hope for the best.
大多数人只会把手指和旁边的粘在一起，然后听天由命。
@joshuadsn
well I'd rather have freedom of speech, religion, and of my body in the us.
好吧，我宁愿在美国拥有言论、宗教和身体自由。
@Official Internet Judge
All of the advanced nations have those and universal healthcare. In the US you have an illusion of those, and then also pay exponentially more for healthcare.
所有发达国家都拥有这些和全民医疗保健。在美国，你拥有这些的幻觉，然后还要为医疗保健支付指数级的费用。
@joshuadsn
and healthcare in the US is reliable. plus your completely ignoring insurance. look at Canada, free but very bad health care.
而且美国的医疗保健是可靠的。此外你完全忽略了保险。看看加拿大，免费但医疗保健很差。
@pirate_ass_rash
You must live in a bad area and have bad insurance
你肯定住在糟糕的地区，保险也很差。
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@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
in Italy you have to wait about 12h . eventually you get the X-RAYS and the visit, but it's for free or for a very small amount of money
在意大利，你大约要等12小时。最终你会得到X光检查和就诊，但它是免费的或者只需要很少的钱。
@ODH
i fell last year in Italy on a slippery rock in the Alps, went to a hospital in Torino and i got a xray and stiches in less than 1 hr. went super smooth, cost me less than 40 euros also...
去年我在意大利阿尔卑斯山的一块湿滑的岩石上摔倒了，去了都灵的一家医院，不到1小时就拍了X光片和缝了针。非常顺利，也只花了我不到40欧元……
@~Dave.Pld
In italia da quando ti visitano l’osso è tornato apposto
在意大利，等你见到医生，骨头都自己长好了。
@Lore
ero ironico
我是在开玩笑。
@Lore
si ma abbiamo il sole, mare e pizza
是啊，但我们有阳光、大海和披萨。
@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
dodici ore è il tempo medio
12小时是平均等待时间。
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@user5053740178928
here in the states, I went to the ER for 4 hours dying from stomach pain, I was not treated, but walked out owing $2100
在美国，我因为胃痛在急诊室待了4个小时，感觉快死了，但没有得到治疗，最后却欠了2100美元。
@Elizabeth May
$2100 for what?
2100美元是为什么？
@Mahdi.2
Did you had insurance
你有保险吗？
@Peter M.
he had insurance, but it kicks in only after 10k
他有保险，但只有在达到1万美元之后才生效。
@fabian robledo
some ibuprofen and send u out the door
给你点布洛芬就把你打发走了。
@user5053740178928
the doctor came in and shook my hand, gave me one antibiotic in a tiny cup, said it was likely diverticulosis and that it was probably viral with no underlying cause. they did one blood work panel.
医生进来跟我握了手，给了我一小杯抗生素，说可能是憩室炎，而且可能是病毒性的，没有潜在原因。他们做了一次血检。
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评论翻译
@Picuilla
In Miami about 12 years ago I went to emergency for dizziness and vertigo, I was there 4 hours with Physician Asistan, no MD, bill $17,995.00. Something is very wrong with USA medical system.
大约12年前，我在迈阿密因为头晕和眩晕去了急诊室，我在那里待了4个小时，只有医生助理，没有医生，账单是17995美元。美国的医疗系统出了大问题。
@Katy & Timo ❤️
imagine going to the doc because you're not feeling very good and after the checkup you're broke
想象一下，你因为身体不舒服去看医生，检查完之后你就破产了。
@Trump2024yo
some people literally avoid going to ER because they're not feeling well and end up dying from a heart attack to avoid bills
有些人确实避免去急诊室，因为他们感觉不舒服，但为了避免账单，最终死于心脏病，。
@user65286527
I repeatedly got vertigo in Indonesia, got ordered by Neurolog a skull MRI and paid 0, the insurance called JKN cost ca $10/month.
我在印度尼西亚反复眩晕，神经内科医生给我开了颅骨核磁共振，我一分钱没花，那个叫JKN的保险每月大约10美元。
@Hard man
In China, you may only need to spend 10 dollars.
在中国，你可能只需要花10美元。
@3dhzxart
如果有医保，医保报销9.5美元，自己需要付0.5美元。中国医保会每个月返还一部分现金到医保账户用于不能报销的部分，所以最终不需要自己从存款中动用任何一分钱。我上次肾结石医院看急诊、止疼药、超声波检查、一大堆扩张尿管的药物，账单接近100美元，报销完需要付款约9美元，用医保账户返现额扣款。所以我最终花费为0。
@Doina Airizer
I was at ER this past December after I past out and got a concusion bill $23 .000 for 6 hours of CT scans
去年12月我昏倒并脑震荡后去了急诊室，6小时的CT扫描账单是23000美元。
@Picuilla
The medical / pharma mafia
医疗/制药黑手党。
@marinapapacoach
this is so messed up!
这太糟糕了！
@(☞ ಠ◡ಠ)☞♀️
17k????
17000？
@Andrew Lim
I think the healthcare was designed to have maximum damage to Americans.
我认为医疗保健的设计是为了对美国人造成最大的损害。
@Picuilla
Agreed
同意。
@lzq010315
真的假的，就看个头晕和眩晕就花了这么多钱，如果在中国，你只需要花10人民币挂号，如果医生没检查出你有什么疾病，那你就只需要花费10人民币。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
What’s wrong with America’s health system is 100% greed and the government is backing it. I bet the cure for cancer is there but can’t make money off curing so it won’t get released.
美国医疗系统的问题百分之百是贪婪，而且政府还在支持它。我敢打赌癌症的治疗方法是存在的，但因为治愈无法赚钱，所以不会被公布。
@Gothic Sam
The plane with scientists who discovered cancer cure crashed and they were unalived. Coincidence???
发现癌症疗法的科学家乘坐的飞机坠毁，他们都死了。巧合吗？
@shuringan
It's not the medical system, it's the political system that's corrupted by lobbies. In most countries it would be the same if the government wouldn't allow it.
这不是医疗系统的问题，是政治系统被游说团体腐蚀了。在大多数国家，如果政府不允许，情况也会一样。
@AleAlejandro29
The worst part is people seem to like it because they do nothing to change it.
最糟糕的是人们似乎喜欢这样，因为他们什么都不做来改变它。
@cuiweiji
Everything is very wrong with US.
美国一切都糟透了。
@zacksun
12 years ago? that would be 2x the price by now
12年前？现在价格会翻倍的。
@yam_yummy_
America is a Corporation.
美国是一个公司。
@Abang Random
I broke my hand in Malaysia, and paid about $200 for the operation and hospitalization, and then i got $4000 paid to me because it happened when i was working. Sweet, free money.
我在马来西亚手骨折了，手术和住院花了大约200美元，然后因为是工伤，我得到了4000美元的赔偿。爽，免费的钱。
@Peaceguerilla
It works the way it was designed to work
它就是按设计好的方式运作的。
@misskuer
四個小時17000？他可以直接搶劫你，但他還是讓你休息了四個小時，他好溫柔
@Tay Calvin193
Crazy! But your country afford to increase military fund
太疯狂了！但是你的国家有钱增加军费。
@爱吃西红柿
你们干脆去墨西哥巴西这些地方看病得了
@十三幺
多少？？？？？？？？
@.
They also take the time in the bill???
他们还在账单里计时间吗？
@elloello9
It’s because of the insurance companies. They ruined healthcare.
那是因为保险公司。他们毁了医疗保健。
@Sobranee-
Whatttttt ???? I prefer to die instead of paying such money LOL
什么？？？？？我宁愿死也不愿付那种钱，哈哈。
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@Phil
It’s very fast but what I dont like is the lack of privacy. You have multiple patients in the same room.
速度很快，但我不喜欢的是缺乏隐私。你和多个病人在同一个房间里。
@prajitoruldinozzz2
Phil, stop it…. 1 question: 7000$ for a solo room or 70$ with 3 other people?
菲尔，别这样……一个问题：7000美元住单人房还是70美元和另外三个人住？
@Flobba Job
Problem with that is it should be a solo room. There’s only multiple people because they won’t wait a couple of meters away in the waiting area and instead stand in the doorway
问题是那应该是个单人房。之所以有多个人，是因为他们不愿意在等候区等几米远，而是站在门口。
@Andrie Pranandu
What privacy you need for metacarpal fracture?
掌骨骨折你需要什么隐私？
@Lili 1234
people can choose doctor and private room, just different price
人们可以选择医生和私人房间，只是价格不同。
@Phil
Good to know.
很高兴了解了。
@Yuuu
It depends, some doctors would ask people wait outside
这取决于情况，有些医生会要求人们在外面等。
@Omar
because social develop so fast，old people is not used to adapting new way
因为社会发展太快，老年人不习惯适应新方式。
@signalfromafar
I would take treatment over any hypotical privacy issue
我宁愿接受治疗，也不愿考虑任何假设的隐私问题。
@hannigramads
i think it depends on the hospital cuz in my city the doctor always asks others to go outside
我认为这取决于医院，因为在我所在的城市，医生总是要求其他人出去。
@idekwtda
LAUGHABLE
可笑。
@sphen
different cultures deal with privacy in different ways...
不同的文化处理隐私的方式不同。
@Hamsterking
It’s not like you have you’re wee wee stuck
又不是你的小JJ被卡住了。
@Eitachie
4k just because you want a privacy room ??
只因为你想要一个私人房间就花4000美元？
@Zandemah
There is def an option for you to pay more at private hospital if you are willing to.
如果你愿意，肯定有在私立医院支付更多费用的选择。
@Tyr0004
With such situation but was assisted by the doctor very efficiently and costs $71 on everything, thoughts about the lack of privacy is so petty to be talked about
在这种情况下，医生非常高效地提供了帮助，所有费用才71美元，谈论缺乏隐私的问题显得太小气了。
@Changyi Liu
Yeah. Privacy and human right.
是的。隐私和人权。
@Phil
Please don’t make it political.
请不要把它政治化。
@Changyi Liu
Point taken. My apologies.
我明白了。很抱歉。
@Aaron Yap
I know what you mean. And sometimes other nosey patients look at you while you are explaning your condition to your doctor. That's so rude.
我懂你的意思。有时其他爱管闲事的病人会在你向医生解释病情时看着你。那太粗鲁了。
@saloum saloum
yes,after getting your privacy you pay 20.000$
是的，获得隐私后你要支付2万美元。
@p1
You are one of those aren’t you…
你就是那种人，对吧……
@kestutisvedegys
The privacy is for serious conditions for something broke. bone or other common stuff it's not private cause why?
隐私是针对严重病情的。对于骨折或其他常见情况，它不是私密的，为什么呢？
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@jjj232706
not in America. that'll be 10 grand at least and you'll be there 12 to 18 hours
在美国可不是这样。那至少要一万美元，你得在那里待12到18个小时。
@ateate
12 to 18 hrs not even possible. you will actually be lucky to get treatment same day
12到18小时根本不可能。你当天能得到治疗就谢天谢地了。
@Jack Applegate
100% - I had a friend who had a window shatter on his hand. They sat him for 3 hours just waiting for a doctor to do an uation…
100%——我有个朋友，他的手被窗户玻璃划伤了。他们让他坐了3个小时，就等着医生来做一个评估……
@1977Photography
My niece broke her ankle/leg over a week ago & had to wait until today to see ortho to decide if she needs surgery.
我侄女一周多前脚踝/腿骨折了，不得不等到今天才去看骨科医生，决定是否需要手术。
@Ronnie Santos
Just for the dr to be like ”yeah looks smashed” then bill insurance $500
就为了医生说一句“嗯，看起来是粉碎性骨折”，然后向保险公司收取500美元的费用。
@Winchester
That’s normal. Not an emergency
那很正常。不是紧急情况。
@Mav
These are nice in a lifetime occurrences
这些都是一生中难得一遇的好事。
@Jack Applegate
You’re not far off…
你离得不远了……
@1977Photography
It’s broken in 3 places. How is that not something that needs addressed? The Dr she saw today scheduled surgery
它断了三处。这难道不需要处理吗？她今天看的医生安排了手术。
@Josh Sills
that maybe the er vist is to make it stable until a specialist can make a time to see her? I guarantee the first er vist was under 3 hours...I'm not wrong
急诊室就诊可能是为了稳定病情，直到专家能安排时间看她？我保证第一次急诊室就诊不到3小时……我没说错。
@ateate
u r trying to say they will fix a broken arm on the same day and not refer u to another specialist on another day, and then charge u for emergency visit. bc that is exactly what happened
你是不是想说他们会在同一天修好断臂，而不是把你转给另一个专家在另一天看，然后向你收取急诊费。因为这就是实际发生的情况。
@Josh Sills
r u trying to redact the fact that you said 12/18 hours without treatment?
a cast after x ray is treatment in any country. you're not telling the full story
你是不是想否认你说的12/18小时没有治疗的事实？X光后打石膏在任何国家都是治疗。你没有讲完整件事。
@Josh Sills
u people act like scheduling a specialist is like walking into a 7/11.
你们这些人表现得好像预约专科医生就像走进24小时便利店一样简单。
@ateate
visiting emergency room, not getting treatment and getting charged a ton is 1 problem. 2nd problem is seeing an orthopedic shouldn't be that expensive and take so long to schedule
去急诊室，没有得到治疗却被收取巨额费用是一个问题。第二个问题是看骨科不应该那么贵，而且预约时间那么长。
@Kierra
This! My insurance denied my MRI for back issues a few days ago. My doctor appealed it and my insurance denied the appeal today. It’s so frustrating! I’ve done the things they’ve asked me to as well
就是这样！我的保险几天前拒绝了我的背部核磁共振检查。我的医生提出了上诉，我的保险今天又拒绝了上诉。太令人沮丧了！我也做了他们要求我做的事情。
@Josh Sills
k well you went to an er and got treatment don't act like u didn't.
2nd orthopedic treatment does have a bit of a waiting period but u acting like u sat 18 hours before someone saw u is an outright li
就是这样！几天前，我的保险拒绝支付我做腰部核磁共振（MRI）的费用。我的医生提出了申诉，但我的保险今天又拒绝了申诉。这太让人沮丧了！我已经按照他们的要求做了所有事情。
@anthonyguinn2
In America I lived in multiple states and broke multiple bones. Usually there for 3-4 hrs max.
在美国，我住过好几个州，也摔断过好几根骨头。通常最多在那里待3-4小时。
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@Sarah
In Shanghai in 2008, I had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, given 4 IV bags for dehydration, a night in the hospital, multiple visits by a specialist… $400 USD.
2008年在上海，我不得不乘坐救护车被送到医院，因为脱水输了4袋点滴，在医院住了一晚，专科医生多次探视……只花了400美元。
@Andrés Maximiliano
Did you ever go to Bar Rouge? I was there in 08 as well!
你有没有去过Bar Rouge？我2008年也在那里！
@Moserary
Creep. Bar Rouge is awesome. The west can never.
怪胎。Bar Rouge太棒了。西方永远无法企及。
（译注：Bar Rouge 是上海一家非常著名的酒吧，位于外滩18号的7楼。它于2004年11月开业，迅速成为上海夜生活的标志性场所。Bar Rouge 以法式风格为主，装修奢华，氛围浪漫，整体色调以红色为主，非常符合其名字“Rouge”（法语中“红色”的意思））
@Sarah
Unfortunately, I don’t get to see much. I was on a choice tour and we were only there a short time - arrived the day I got sick and left the morning after I was released from the hospital.
不幸的是，我没能看到太多。我参加的是一个精选旅行团，我们只在那里待了很短的时间——我生病的那天到达，出院后的第二天早上就离开了。
@Andrés Maximiliano
I was there for a year and loved it so much! You need to go back and visit! It’s crazy how much more advanced they are than us!
我在那里待了一年，非常喜欢！你需要回去看看！他们比我们先进太多了，太疯狂了！
@Le Baboon
that would be 50 usd in my country
那在我国家要50美元。
@Daus Haus 菲尔道斯
So is it considered cheap or affordable ?
那这算是便宜还是实惠？
@Jenny
To you $400 dollars may be not much, but it is to native citizens
对你来说400美元可能不算多，但对当地居民来说却不少。
@wowhaihai
FYI salaries in Shanghai are on par with American average wages today.
供你参考，上海的工资水平现在与美国平均工资持平。
@Forest Eagle
Feel bad for you. You should revisit, Shanghai is much better today the air is much cleaner but the costs haven't go up that much.
真替你难过。你应该再去看看，今天的上海好多了，空气也更干净了，但费用并没有涨那么多。
@Aanneland
So you wee lucky that you got sick on vacation?
Because if that happened in US you would be personally bankrupt.
所以你很幸运在度假时生病了？因为如果这发生在美国，你就会个人破产。
@Sarah
No. I was there on a choir tour in college and almost died. My room mate saved my life. I remember collapsing and the position I was in was hard to breathe but I couldn’t move.
不。我当时在大学参加合唱团巡演，差点死了。我的室友救了我的命。我记得当时我倒下了，那个姿势让我呼吸困难，我动不了。
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@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
In Germany you can have an appointment 6 months later
在德国，你可能要六个月后才能预约到。
@shaz
here in Australia I got sent to see specialist for possible knee replacement it's been 6 mths still don't even have an appointment and could be mths still
在澳大利亚，我被转介去看专家，可能是要做膝关节置换，已经六个月了，我甚至还没有预约到，可能还要等好几个月。
@fuhua
Impossible, he recovered on his own in a month.
不可能，他一个月就自己康复了。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wow even worse
哇，更糟了。
@lijie
Is your wound healed now
你的伤口现在愈合了吗？
@BettyPage1972
At least it’s free!!
至少是免费的！
@shaz
nope it won't heal its needs a replacement.... not holding my breath though. :)
不，它不会愈合，需要更换……但我并不抱太大希望。
@shaz
LOL getting nothing done is free ? should be but yes I get your point
哈哈，什么都没做是免费的吗？应该是吧，但我明白你的意思。
@brother모01
In America, without insurance, people don't get a knee replacement.
在美国，没有保险的人是不能做膝关节置换的。
@shaz
I understand but what you understand it was never like this in Australia..our health system was spot on but in the last 10 yrs or less it's just gone to the dogs it's not right
我明白，但你所理解的是，澳大利亚以前从来不是这样的……我们的医疗系统一直很完善，但在过去十年甚至更短的时间里，它变得一塌糊涂，这不对劲。
@brother모01
Probably because it relies on private insurance system taking a cut and profiting off declining service.
可能是因为它依赖于私人保险系统从中抽取提成并从服务质量下降中获利。
@shaz
yes they trying to make everyone have private all while making it ridiculously expensive
是的，他们试图让每个人都拥有私人保险，同时又把它弄得极其昂贵。
@NonyaBTT
In America you’ll be waiting 8 months just to be told you didn’t get a referral or prior authorization, then wait 4 more, then get a 10k bill when your insurance denies it anyway.
在美国，你得等上8个月才会被告知你没有获得转诊或事先授权，然后又等4个月，然后当你的保险仍然拒绝支付时，你会收到一张1万美元的账单。
@shaz
and our countries call Asia third world !!!
而我们国家却称亚洲是第三世界！！！
@remm1966
Und das bei 12000 Euro Krankenversicherungsbeitrag im Jahr...
一年12000欧元的医疗保险费……
@Diana
Aber doch nicht bei einem Knochenbruch, der wird in jeder Notaufnahme gegipst und geröngt
但骨折肯定不是这样，任何急诊室都会打石膏和X光检查。
@GanLiza
Ja, in Luxembourg too
是的，卢森堡也是。
@Karz
Same in Austria
奥地利也一样。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Over the years it got worse and worse
这些年越来越糟了。
@Graug_RSA
Then why did I get an appointment the same day when I fell and hurt my back in Düsseldorf?
那为什么我在杜塞尔多夫摔倒伤了背，当天就约到了医生？
@Till Mertens
10 Euros per day..but nothing more…even if heart surgery..
每天10欧元……但仅此而已……即使是心脏手术。
@sickmoon
keine Ahnung welches Krankenhaus du besuchst. bei uns kann man auch in die Rettungsstelle mit Bruch. musst halt meistens warten
不知道你去了哪家医院。我们这里骨折也可以去急诊室。不过大多数时候都得等。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wenn du wüsstest. In den meist unterbesetzten Notaufnahmen wird man hier auch nicht mehr anständig versorgt.
如果你知道的话。在这里，大多数人手不足的急诊室也得不到适当的治疗。
@Shu Chen
都自愈了
@shaz
I'm looking into going to India to have my kneed fixed
我正在考虑去印度做膝盖手术。
@❤︎₍˄·͈༝·͈˄*₎◞ ̑̑
That’s why Chinese students in Germany once we get injured, we’d rather book a flight ticket to go back home for the treatment. I’m serious
这就是为什么在德国的中国学生一旦受伤，我们宁愿订机票回国治疗。我是认真的。
@BettyPage1972
It’s a wait, but it’s free!
确实要等，但它是免费的！
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@Official Internet Judge
US: 3 hrs in the ER, you haven’t met your deductible so $1500.
美国：急诊室待3小时，但如果你还没达到保险免赔额，所以还是得支付1500美元。
（译注：免赔额是指达到多少钱，保险才开始给报销的额度值。）
@Mahmuda
Plus another bill from us acute care for the physicians bill
再加上美国急症护理中心开的另一张医生费账单。
@Steve Louis
er visit in ny $6500, no joke
纽约急诊室就诊费6500美元，不开玩笑。
@elam
that's sounds like it
听起来就是这样。
@Bobby Flay
I once sat in the er waiting room for 7 hrs
我曾经在急诊室等了7个小时。
@Shari
Oh but if you have met your deductible it’s a $250 copay plus $3000: $1000 ECG $500 IV Fluid etc
哦，但如果你已经达到了免赔额，就需要支付250美元的自付额：再加上3000美元：1000美元的心电图（ECG）、500美元的静脉输液等。
@Trump2024yo
my ER visit was $6500 out of pocket, that was my deductible... sad
我的急诊室就诊自付了6500美元，那就是我的免赔额……悲伤。
@k1ngd0m
1500 if you're lucky. some people have $3,000 or $5,000 deductibles. some even higher. And then they miscode everything and insurance doesn't cover it and then it's a big headache trying to get it sor
如果你幸运的话是免赔额是1500美元。有些人有3000或5000美元的免赔额。有些甚至更高。然后他们把所有东西都编码错误，保险不报销，然后要处理起来就非常头疼。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
Separate bills for ER, physicians, medical supplies, any medicines, scans/x-rays, plus any other fees they can throw in.
急诊室、医生、医疗用品、任何药物、扫描/X光片以及他们能加上的任何其他费用都有单独的账单。
@JonnyBravo
I do self pay and it’s cheaper than insurance. I had a doctor visit it’s 170 without insurance and 200 with insurance. The actual price is 400 but they give you a discount self pay
我选择自费，比用保险便宜。我看医生，没有保险是170美元，有保险是200美元。实际价格是400美元，但自费会给你折扣。
@LuvDew68
How does that work when you file taxes? I thought we were “required” to have insurance? It’s all such a messed up system
你报税的时候怎么处理呢？我以为我们“必须”有保险？这整个系统真是一团糟。
@Official Internet Judge
Considering $200 for a simple visit “cheap” is insane.
认为一次简单就诊200美元“便宜”，真疯狂。
@Vq_guy
3 hours? Try 6
3小时？试试6小时。
@Janeytsha
For an MRI and a tylenol IV $34,000
一次核磁共振和泰诺静脉注射34000美元。
@joeintexas
no way $1500. a blood test is $1000 in ER
不可能1500美元。急诊室验血就要1000美元。
@Official Internet Judge
No visit fees? No nothing else? You saying ONLY blood test fee of $1000 is all they will ever charge?
没有就诊费？没有其他费用吗？你是说他们只会收取1000美元的验血费吗？
@joeintexas
no. I'm saying that test alone is a grand... so all the medical care listed would be much more than $1500 in the US
不。我是说光那个检查就要一千美元……所以列出的所有医疗费用在美国会远远超过1500美元。
@JustNrik
$1500 is dirt cheap, my brother had diarrhea and he got charged $15k for all day treatment, insurance covered almost all of it but still
1500美元简直是便宜得离谱了，我弟弟腹泻，全天治疗被收了1.5万美元，保险几乎全报销了，但还是……
@Lucy Balli
You forgot to add, how would you like to pay for that.
你忘了补充，你想怎么支付呢。
@elam
no way.....way more
不可能……多得多。
@Sarahwsu20
You got a coupon! Or a discount! Lol
你拿到优惠券了吧！或者折扣！哈哈。
@Rob
About 7-8 hrs in ER in my town….i’d rather bleed out I think…
在我镇上急诊室大概要等7-8小时……我想我宁愿失血过多。
@One Majestic Unicorn
And another 300 bucks for the lab work they sent out to an outside oon lab.
还有另外300美元是他们送到外面医院体系外的实验室的化验费。
@One Majestic Unicorn
Bc they will want lab work for a broken bone bc idk why
因为他们会对骨折要求化验，我也不知道为什么。
@Ohsee83
$1,500!? Ha, try adding a few zeros.
1500美元？！哈，试试加几个零。
@中华复兴
So if you are sick, you can take a plane to China
所以如果你生病了，你可以坐飞机去中国。
@Lesley Black
That’s a steal! My deductible is $7k!
这简直是抢劫！我的免赔额是7000美元！
@israelavila2435
3 hours? Try 6-12
3小时？试试6-12小时。
@G Vilk
Most people would just tape their finger to the one next to it and hope for the best.
大多数人只会把手指和旁边的粘在一起，然后听天由命。
@joshuadsn
well I'd rather have freedom of speech, religion, and of my body in the us.
好吧，我宁愿在美国拥有言论、宗教和身体自由。
@Official Internet Judge
All of the advanced nations have those and universal healthcare. In the US you have an illusion of those, and then also pay exponentially more for healthcare.
所有发达国家都拥有这些和全民医疗保健。在美国，你拥有这些的幻觉，然后还要为医疗保健支付指数级的费用。
@joshuadsn
and healthcare in the US is reliable. plus your completely ignoring insurance. look at Canada, free but very bad health care.
而且美国的医疗保健是可靠的。此外你完全忽略了保险。看看加拿大，免费但医疗保健很差。
@pirate_ass_rash
You must live in a bad area and have bad insurance
你肯定住在糟糕的地区，保险也很差。
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@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
in Italy you have to wait about 12h . eventually you get the X-RAYS and the visit, but it's for free or for a very small amount of money
在意大利，你大约要等12小时。最终你会得到X光检查和就诊，但它是免费的或者只需要很少的钱。
@ODH
i fell last year in Italy on a slippery rock in the Alps, went to a hospital in Torino and i got a xray and stiches in less than 1 hr. went super smooth, cost me less than 40 euros also...
去年我在意大利阿尔卑斯山的一块湿滑的岩石上摔倒了，去了都灵的一家医院，不到1小时就拍了X光片和缝了针。非常顺利，也只花了我不到40欧元……
@~Dave.Pld
In italia da quando ti visitano l’osso è tornato apposto
在意大利，等你见到医生，骨头都自己长好了。
@Lore
ero ironico
我是在开玩笑。
@Lore
si ma abbiamo il sole, mare e pizza
是啊，但我们有阳光、大海和披萨。
@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
dodici ore è il tempo medio
12小时是平均等待时间。
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@user5053740178928
here in the states, I went to the ER for 4 hours dying from stomach pain, I was not treated, but walked out owing $2100
在美国，我因为胃痛在急诊室待了4个小时，感觉快死了，但没有得到治疗，最后却欠了2100美元。
@Elizabeth May
$2100 for what?
2100美元是为什么？
@Mahdi.2
Did you had insurance
你有保险吗？
@Peter M.
he had insurance, but it kicks in only after 10k
他有保险，但只有在达到1万美元之后才生效。
@fabian robledo
some ibuprofen and send u out the door
给你点布洛芬就把你打发走了。
@user5053740178928
the doctor came in and shook my hand, gave me one antibiotic in a tiny cup, said it was likely diverticulosis and that it was probably viral with no underlying cause. they did one blood work panel.
医生进来跟我握了手，给了我一小杯抗生素，说可能是憩室炎，而且可能是病毒性的，没有潜在原因。他们做了一次血检。
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@Picuilla
In Miami about 12 years ago I went to emergency for dizziness and vertigo, I was there 4 hours with Physician Asistan, no MD, bill $17,995.00. Something is very wrong with USA medical system.
大约12年前，我在迈阿密因为头晕和眩晕去了急诊室，我在那里待了4个小时，只有医生助理，没有医生，账单是17995美元。美国的医疗系统出了大问题。
@Katy & Timo ❤️
imagine going to the doc because you're not feeling very good and after the checkup you're broke
想象一下，你因为身体不舒服去看医生，检查完之后你就破产了。
@Trump2024yo
some people literally avoid going to ER because they're not feeling well and end up dying from a heart attack to avoid bills
有些人确实避免去急诊室，因为他们感觉不舒服，但为了避免账单，最终死于心脏病，。
@user65286527
I repeatedly got vertigo in Indonesia, got ordered by Neurolog a skull MRI and paid 0, the insurance called JKN cost ca $10/month.
我在印度尼西亚反复眩晕，神经内科医生给我开了颅骨核磁共振，我一分钱没花，那个叫JKN的保险每月大约10美元。
@Hard man
In China, you may only need to spend 10 dollars.
在中国，你可能只需要花10美元。
@3dhzxart
如果有医保，医保报销9.5美元，自己需要付0.5美元。中国医保会每个月返还一部分现金到医保账户用于不能报销的部分，所以最终不需要自己从存款中动用任何一分钱。我上次肾结石医院看急诊、止疼药、超声波检查、一大堆扩张尿管的药物，账单接近100美元，报销完需要付款约9美元，用医保账户返现额扣款。所以我最终花费为0。
@Doina Airizer
I was at ER this past December after I past out and got a concusion bill $23 .000 for 6 hours of CT scans
去年12月我昏倒并脑震荡后去了急诊室，6小时的CT扫描账单是23000美元。
@Picuilla
The medical / pharma mafia
医疗/制药黑手党。
@marinapapacoach
this is so messed up!
这太糟糕了！
@(☞ ಠ◡ಠ)☞♀️
17k????
17000？
@Andrew Lim
I think the healthcare was designed to have maximum damage to Americans.
我认为医疗保健的设计是为了对美国人造成最大的损害。
@Picuilla
Agreed
同意。
@lzq010315
真的假的，就看个头晕和眩晕就花了这么多钱，如果在中国，你只需要花10人民币挂号，如果医生没检查出你有什么疾病，那你就只需要花费10人民币。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
What’s wrong with America’s health system is 100% greed and the government is backing it. I bet the cure for cancer is there but can’t make money off curing so it won’t get released.
美国医疗系统的问题百分之百是贪婪，而且政府还在支持它。我敢打赌癌症的治疗方法是存在的，但因为治愈无法赚钱，所以不会被公布。
@Gothic Sam
The plane with scientists who discovered cancer cure crashed and they were unalived. Coincidence???
发现癌症疗法的科学家乘坐的飞机坠毁，他们都死了。巧合吗？
@shuringan
It's not the medical system, it's the political system that's corrupted by lobbies. In most countries it would be the same if the government wouldn't allow it.
这不是医疗系统的问题，是政治系统被游说团体腐蚀了。在大多数国家，如果政府不允许，情况也会一样。
@AleAlejandro29
The worst part is people seem to like it because they do nothing to change it.
最糟糕的是人们似乎喜欢这样，因为他们什么都不做来改变它。
@cuiweiji
Everything is very wrong with US.
美国一切都糟透了。
@zacksun
12 years ago? that would be 2x the price by now
12年前？现在价格会翻倍的。
@yam_yummy_
America is a Corporation.
美国是一个公司。
@Abang Random
I broke my hand in Malaysia, and paid about $200 for the operation and hospitalization, and then i got $4000 paid to me because it happened when i was working. Sweet, free money.
我在马来西亚手骨折了，手术和住院花了大约200美元，然后因为是工伤，我得到了4000美元的赔偿。爽，免费的钱。
@Peaceguerilla
It works the way it was designed to work
它就是按设计好的方式运作的。
@misskuer
四個小時17000？他可以直接搶劫你，但他還是讓你休息了四個小時，他好溫柔
@Tay Calvin193
Crazy! But your country afford to increase military fund
太疯狂了！但是你的国家有钱增加军费。
@爱吃西红柿
你们干脆去墨西哥巴西这些地方看病得了
@十三幺
多少？？？？？？？？
@.
They also take the time in the bill???
他们还在账单里计时间吗？
@elloello9
It’s because of the insurance companies. They ruined healthcare.
那是因为保险公司。他们毁了医疗保健。
@Sobranee-
Whatttttt ???? I prefer to die instead of paying such money LOL
什么？？？？？我宁愿死也不愿付那种钱，哈哈。
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@Phil
It’s very fast but what I dont like is the lack of privacy. You have multiple patients in the same room.
速度很快，但我不喜欢的是缺乏隐私。你和多个病人在同一个房间里。
@prajitoruldinozzz2
Phil, stop it…. 1 question: 7000$ for a solo room or 70$ with 3 other people?
菲尔，别这样……一个问题：7000美元住单人房还是70美元和另外三个人住？
@Flobba Job
Problem with that is it should be a solo room. There’s only multiple people because they won’t wait a couple of meters away in the waiting area and instead stand in the doorway
问题是那应该是个单人房。之所以有多个人，是因为他们不愿意在等候区等几米远，而是站在门口。
@Andrie Pranandu
What privacy you need for metacarpal fracture?
掌骨骨折你需要什么隐私？
@Lili 1234
people can choose doctor and private room, just different price
人们可以选择医生和私人房间，只是价格不同。
@Phil
Good to know.
很高兴了解了。
@Yuuu
It depends, some doctors would ask people wait outside
这取决于情况，有些医生会要求人们在外面等。
@Omar
because social develop so fast，old people is not used to adapting new way
因为社会发展太快，老年人不习惯适应新方式。
@signalfromafar
I would take treatment over any hypotical privacy issue
我宁愿接受治疗，也不愿考虑任何假设的隐私问题。
@hannigramads
i think it depends on the hospital cuz in my city the doctor always asks others to go outside
我认为这取决于医院，因为在我所在的城市，医生总是要求其他人出去。
@idekwtda
LAUGHABLE
可笑。
@sphen
different cultures deal with privacy in different ways...
不同的文化处理隐私的方式不同。
@Hamsterking
It’s not like you have you’re wee wee stuck
又不是你的小JJ被卡住了。
@Eitachie
4k just because you want a privacy room ??
只因为你想要一个私人房间就花4000美元？
@Zandemah
There is def an option for you to pay more at private hospital if you are willing to.
如果你愿意，肯定有在私立医院支付更多费用的选择。
@Tyr0004
With such situation but was assisted by the doctor very efficiently and costs $71 on everything, thoughts about the lack of privacy is so petty to be talked about
在这种情况下，医生非常高效地提供了帮助，所有费用才71美元，谈论缺乏隐私的问题显得太小气了。
@Changyi Liu
Yeah. Privacy and human right.
是的。隐私和人权。
@Phil
Please don’t make it political.
请不要把它政治化。
@Changyi Liu
Point taken. My apologies.
我明白了。很抱歉。
@Aaron Yap
I know what you mean. And sometimes other nosey patients look at you while you are explaning your condition to your doctor. That's so rude.
我懂你的意思。有时其他爱管闲事的病人会在你向医生解释病情时看着你。那太粗鲁了。
@saloum saloum
yes,after getting your privacy you pay 20.000$
是的，获得隐私后你要支付2万美元。
@p1
You are one of those aren’t you…
你就是那种人，对吧……
@kestutisvedegys
The privacy is for serious conditions for something broke. bone or other common stuff it's not private cause why?
隐私是针对严重病情的。对于骨折或其他常见情况，它不是私密的，为什么呢？
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@jjj232706
not in America. that'll be 10 grand at least and you'll be there 12 to 18 hours
在美国可不是这样。那至少要一万美元，你得在那里待12到18个小时。
@ateate
12 to 18 hrs not even possible. you will actually be lucky to get treatment same day
12到18小时根本不可能。你当天能得到治疗就谢天谢地了。
@Jack Applegate
100% - I had a friend who had a window shatter on his hand. They sat him for 3 hours just waiting for a doctor to do an uation…
100%——我有个朋友，他的手被窗户玻璃划伤了。他们让他坐了3个小时，就等着医生来做一个评估……
@1977Photography
My niece broke her ankle/leg over a week ago & had to wait until today to see ortho to decide if she needs surgery.
我侄女一周多前脚踝/腿骨折了，不得不等到今天才去看骨科医生，决定是否需要手术。
@Ronnie Santos
Just for the dr to be like ”yeah looks smashed” then bill insurance $500
就为了医生说一句“嗯，看起来是粉碎性骨折”，然后向保险公司收取500美元的费用。
@Winchester
That’s normal. Not an emergency
那很正常。不是紧急情况。
@Mav
These are nice in a lifetime occurrences
这些都是一生中难得一遇的好事。
@Jack Applegate
You’re not far off…
你离得不远了……
@1977Photography
It’s broken in 3 places. How is that not something that needs addressed? The Dr she saw today scheduled surgery
它断了三处。这难道不需要处理吗？她今天看的医生安排了手术。
@Josh Sills
that maybe the er vist is to make it stable until a specialist can make a time to see her? I guarantee the first er vist was under 3 hours...I'm not wrong
急诊室就诊可能是为了稳定病情，直到专家能安排时间看她？我保证第一次急诊室就诊不到3小时……我没说错。
@ateate
u r trying to say they will fix a broken arm on the same day and not refer u to another specialist on another day, and then charge u for emergency visit. bc that is exactly what happened
你是不是想说他们会在同一天修好断臂，而不是把你转给另一个专家在另一天看，然后向你收取急诊费。因为这就是实际发生的情况。
@Josh Sills
r u trying to redact the fact that you said 12/18 hours without treatment?
a cast after x ray is treatment in any country. you're not telling the full story
你是不是想否认你说的12/18小时没有治疗的事实？X光后打石膏在任何国家都是治疗。你没有讲完整件事。
@Josh Sills
u people act like scheduling a specialist is like walking into a 7/11.
你们这些人表现得好像预约专科医生就像走进24小时便利店一样简单。
@ateate
visiting emergency room, not getting treatment and getting charged a ton is 1 problem. 2nd problem is seeing an orthopedic shouldn't be that expensive and take so long to schedule
去急诊室，没有得到治疗却被收取巨额费用是一个问题。第二个问题是看骨科不应该那么贵，而且预约时间那么长。
@Kierra
This! My insurance denied my MRI for back issues a few days ago. My doctor appealed it and my insurance denied the appeal today. It’s so frustrating! I’ve done the things they’ve asked me to as well
就是这样！我的保险几天前拒绝了我的背部核磁共振检查。我的医生提出了上诉，我的保险今天又拒绝了上诉。太令人沮丧了！我也做了他们要求我做的事情。
@Josh Sills
k well you went to an er and got treatment don't act like u didn't.
2nd orthopedic treatment does have a bit of a waiting period but u acting like u sat 18 hours before someone saw u is an outright li
就是这样！几天前，我的保险拒绝支付我做腰部核磁共振（MRI）的费用。我的医生提出了申诉，但我的保险今天又拒绝了申诉。这太让人沮丧了！我已经按照他们的要求做了所有事情。
@anthonyguinn2
In America I lived in multiple states and broke multiple bones. Usually there for 3-4 hrs max.
在美国，我住过好几个州，也摔断过好几根骨头。通常最多在那里待3-4小时。
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@Sarah
In Shanghai in 2008, I had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, given 4 IV bags for dehydration, a night in the hospital, multiple visits by a specialist… $400 USD.
2008年在上海，我不得不乘坐救护车被送到医院，因为脱水输了4袋点滴，在医院住了一晚，专科医生多次探视……只花了400美元。
@Andrés Maximiliano
Did you ever go to Bar Rouge? I was there in 08 as well!
你有没有去过Bar Rouge？我2008年也在那里！
@Moserary
Creep. Bar Rouge is awesome. The west can never.
怪胎。Bar Rouge太棒了。西方永远无法企及。
（译注：Bar Rouge 是上海一家非常著名的酒吧，位于外滩18号的7楼。它于2004年11月开业，迅速成为上海夜生活的标志性场所。Bar Rouge 以法式风格为主，装修奢华，氛围浪漫，整体色调以红色为主，非常符合其名字“Rouge”（法语中“红色”的意思））
@Sarah
Unfortunately, I don’t get to see much. I was on a choice tour and we were only there a short time - arrived the day I got sick and left the morning after I was released from the hospital.
不幸的是，我没能看到太多。我参加的是一个精选旅行团，我们只在那里待了很短的时间——我生病的那天到达，出院后的第二天早上就离开了。
@Andrés Maximiliano
I was there for a year and loved it so much! You need to go back and visit! It’s crazy how much more advanced they are than us!
我在那里待了一年，非常喜欢！你需要回去看看！他们比我们先进太多了，太疯狂了！
@Le Baboon
that would be 50 usd in my country
那在我国家要50美元。
@Daus Haus 菲尔道斯
So is it considered cheap or affordable ?
那这算是便宜还是实惠？
@Jenny
To you $400 dollars may be not much, but it is to native citizens
对你来说400美元可能不算多，但对当地居民来说却不少。
@wowhaihai
FYI salaries in Shanghai are on par with American average wages today.
供你参考，上海的工资水平现在与美国平均工资持平。
@Forest Eagle
Feel bad for you. You should revisit, Shanghai is much better today the air is much cleaner but the costs haven't go up that much.
真替你难过。你应该再去看看，今天的上海好多了，空气也更干净了，但费用并没有涨那么多。
@Aanneland
So you wee lucky that you got sick on vacation?
Because if that happened in US you would be personally bankrupt.
所以你很幸运在度假时生病了？因为如果这发生在美国，你就会个人破产。
@Sarah
No. I was there on a choir tour in college and almost died. My room mate saved my life. I remember collapsing and the position I was in was hard to breathe but I couldn’t move.
不。我当时在大学参加合唱团巡演，差点死了。我的室友救了我的命。我记得当时我倒下了，那个姿势让我呼吸困难，我动不了。
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@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
In Germany you can have an appointment 6 months later
在德国，你可能要六个月后才能预约到。
@shaz
here in Australia I got sent to see specialist for possible knee replacement it's been 6 mths still don't even have an appointment and could be mths still
在澳大利亚，我被转介去看专家，可能是要做膝关节置换，已经六个月了，我甚至还没有预约到，可能还要等好几个月。
@fuhua
Impossible, he recovered on his own in a month.
不可能，他一个月就自己康复了。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wow even worse
哇，更糟了。
@lijie
Is your wound healed now
你的伤口现在愈合了吗？
@BettyPage1972
At least it’s free!!
至少是免费的！
@shaz
nope it won't heal its needs a replacement.... not holding my breath though. :)
不，它不会愈合，需要更换……但我并不抱太大希望。
@shaz
LOL getting nothing done is free ? should be but yes I get your point
哈哈，什么都没做是免费的吗？应该是吧，但我明白你的意思。
@brother모01
In America, without insurance, people don't get a knee replacement.
在美国，没有保险的人是不能做膝关节置换的。
@shaz
I understand but what you understand it was never like this in Australia..our health system was spot on but in the last 10 yrs or less it's just gone to the dogs it's not right
我明白，但你所理解的是，澳大利亚以前从来不是这样的……我们的医疗系统一直很完善，但在过去十年甚至更短的时间里，它变得一塌糊涂，这不对劲。
@brother모01
Probably because it relies on private insurance system taking a cut and profiting off declining service.
可能是因为它依赖于私人保险系统从中抽取提成并从服务质量下降中获利。
@shaz
yes they trying to make everyone have private all while making it ridiculously expensive
是的，他们试图让每个人都拥有私人保险，同时又把它弄得极其昂贵。
@NonyaBTT
In America you’ll be waiting 8 months just to be told you didn’t get a referral or prior authorization, then wait 4 more, then get a 10k bill when your insurance denies it anyway.
在美国，你得等上8个月才会被告知你没有获得转诊或事先授权，然后又等4个月，然后当你的保险仍然拒绝支付时，你会收到一张1万美元的账单。
@shaz
and our countries call Asia third world !!!
而我们国家却称亚洲是第三世界！！！
@remm1966
Und das bei 12000 Euro Krankenversicherungsbeitrag im Jahr...
一年12000欧元的医疗保险费……
@Diana
Aber doch nicht bei einem Knochenbruch, der wird in jeder Notaufnahme gegipst und geröngt
但骨折肯定不是这样，任何急诊室都会打石膏和X光检查。
@GanLiza
Ja, in Luxembourg too
是的，卢森堡也是。
@Karz
Same in Austria
奥地利也一样。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Over the years it got worse and worse
这些年越来越糟了。
@Graug_RSA
Then why did I get an appointment the same day when I fell and hurt my back in Düsseldorf?
那为什么我在杜塞尔多夫摔倒伤了背，当天就约到了医生？
@Till Mertens
10 Euros per day..but nothing more…even if heart surgery..
每天10欧元……但仅此而已……即使是心脏手术。
@sickmoon
keine Ahnung welches Krankenhaus du besuchst. bei uns kann man auch in die Rettungsstelle mit Bruch. musst halt meistens warten
不知道你去了哪家医院。我们这里骨折也可以去急诊室。不过大多数时候都得等。
@GenXAnne TeechenKanne
Wenn du wüsstest. In den meist unterbesetzten Notaufnahmen wird man hier auch nicht mehr anständig versorgt.
如果你知道的话。在这里，大多数人手不足的急诊室也得不到适当的治疗。
@Shu Chen
都自愈了
@shaz
I'm looking into going to India to have my kneed fixed
我正在考虑去印度做膝盖手术。
@❤︎₍˄·͈༝·͈˄*₎◞ ̑̑
That’s why Chinese students in Germany once we get injured, we’d rather book a flight ticket to go back home for the treatment. I’m serious
这就是为什么在德国的中国学生一旦受伤，我们宁愿订机票回国治疗。我是认真的。
@BettyPage1972
It’s a wait, but it’s free!
确实要等，但它是免费的！
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@Official Internet Judge
US: 3 hrs in the ER, you haven’t met your deductible so $1500.
美国：急诊室待3小时，但如果你还没达到保险免赔额，所以还是得支付1500美元。
（译注：免赔额是指达到多少钱，保险才开始给报销的额度值。）
@Mahmuda
Plus another bill from us acute care for the physicians bill
再加上美国急症护理中心开的另一张医生费账单。
@Steve Louis
er visit in ny $6500, no joke
纽约急诊室就诊费6500美元，不开玩笑。
@elam
that's sounds like it
听起来就是这样。
@Bobby Flay
I once sat in the er waiting room for 7 hrs
我曾经在急诊室等了7个小时。
@Shari
Oh but if you have met your deductible it’s a $250 copay plus $3000: $1000 ECG $500 IV Fluid etc
哦，但如果你已经达到了免赔额，就需要支付250美元的自付额：再加上3000美元：1000美元的心电图（ECG）、500美元的静脉输液等。
@Trump2024yo
my ER visit was $6500 out of pocket, that was my deductible... sad
我的急诊室就诊自付了6500美元，那就是我的免赔额……悲伤。
@k1ngd0m
1500 if you're lucky. some people have $3,000 or $5,000 deductibles. some even higher. And then they miscode everything and insurance doesn't cover it and then it's a big headache trying to get it sor
如果你幸运的话是免赔额是1500美元。有些人有3000或5000美元的免赔额。有些甚至更高。然后他们把所有东西都编码错误，保险不报销，然后要处理起来就非常头疼。
@uRaSk33tSta1n
Separate bills for ER, physicians, medical supplies, any medicines, scans/x-rays, plus any other fees they can throw in.
急诊室、医生、医疗用品、任何药物、扫描/X光片以及他们能加上的任何其他费用都有单独的账单。
@JonnyBravo
I do self pay and it’s cheaper than insurance. I had a doctor visit it’s 170 without insurance and 200 with insurance. The actual price is 400 but they give you a discount self pay
我选择自费，比用保险便宜。我看医生，没有保险是170美元，有保险是200美元。实际价格是400美元，但自费会给你折扣。
@LuvDew68
How does that work when you file taxes? I thought we were “required” to have insurance? It’s all such a messed up system
你报税的时候怎么处理呢？我以为我们“必须”有保险？这整个系统真是一团糟。
@Official Internet Judge
Considering $200 for a simple visit “cheap” is insane.
认为一次简单就诊200美元“便宜”，真疯狂。
@Vq_guy
3 hours? Try 6
3小时？试试6小时。
@Janeytsha
For an MRI and a tylenol IV $34,000
一次核磁共振和泰诺静脉注射34000美元。
@joeintexas
no way $1500. a blood test is $1000 in ER
不可能1500美元。急诊室验血就要1000美元。
@Official Internet Judge
No visit fees? No nothing else? You saying ONLY blood test fee of $1000 is all they will ever charge?
没有就诊费？没有其他费用吗？你是说他们只会收取1000美元的验血费吗？
@joeintexas
no. I'm saying that test alone is a grand... so all the medical care listed would be much more than $1500 in the US
不。我是说光那个检查就要一千美元……所以列出的所有医疗费用在美国会远远超过1500美元。
@JustNrik
$1500 is dirt cheap, my brother had diarrhea and he got charged $15k for all day treatment, insurance covered almost all of it but still
1500美元简直是便宜得离谱了，我弟弟腹泻，全天治疗被收了1.5万美元，保险几乎全报销了，但还是……
@Lucy Balli
You forgot to add, how would you like to pay for that.
你忘了补充，你想怎么支付呢。
@elam
no way.....way more
不可能……多得多。
@Sarahwsu20
You got a coupon! Or a discount! Lol
你拿到优惠券了吧！或者折扣！哈哈。
@Rob
About 7-8 hrs in ER in my town….i’d rather bleed out I think…
在我镇上急诊室大概要等7-8小时……我想我宁愿失血过多。
@One Majestic Unicorn
And another 300 bucks for the lab work they sent out to an outside oon lab.
还有另外300美元是他们送到外面医院体系外的实验室的化验费。
@One Majestic Unicorn
Bc they will want lab work for a broken bone bc idk why
因为他们会对骨折要求化验，我也不知道为什么。
@Ohsee83
$1,500!? Ha, try adding a few zeros.
1500美元？！哈，试试加几个零。
@中华复兴
So if you are sick, you can take a plane to China
所以如果你生病了，你可以坐飞机去中国。
@Lesley Black
That’s a steal! My deductible is $7k!
这简直是抢劫！我的免赔额是7000美元！
@israelavila2435
3 hours? Try 6-12
3小时？试试6-12小时。
@G Vilk
Most people would just tape their finger to the one next to it and hope for the best.
大多数人只会把手指和旁边的粘在一起，然后听天由命。
@joshuadsn
well I'd rather have freedom of speech, religion, and of my body in the us.
好吧，我宁愿在美国拥有言论、宗教和身体自由。
@Official Internet Judge
All of the advanced nations have those and universal healthcare. In the US you have an illusion of those, and then also pay exponentially more for healthcare.
所有发达国家都拥有这些和全民医疗保健。在美国，你拥有这些的幻觉，然后还要为医疗保健支付指数级的费用。
@joshuadsn
and healthcare in the US is reliable. plus your completely ignoring insurance. look at Canada, free but very bad health care.
而且美国的医疗保健是可靠的。此外你完全忽略了保险。看看加拿大，免费但医疗保健很差。
@pirate_ass_rash
You must live in a bad area and have bad insurance
你肯定住在糟糕的地区，保险也很差。
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@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
in Italy you have to wait about 12h . eventually you get the X-RAYS and the visit, but it's for free or for a very small amount of money
在意大利，你大约要等12小时。最终你会得到X光检查和就诊，但它是免费的或者只需要很少的钱。
@ODH
i fell last year in Italy on a slippery rock in the Alps, went to a hospital in Torino and i got a xray and stiches in less than 1 hr. went super smooth, cost me less than 40 euros also...
去年我在意大利阿尔卑斯山的一块湿滑的岩石上摔倒了，去了都灵的一家医院，不到1小时就拍了X光片和缝了针。非常顺利，也只花了我不到40欧元……
@~Dave.Pld
In italia da quando ti visitano l’osso è tornato apposto
在意大利，等你见到医生，骨头都自己长好了。
@Lore
ero ironico
我是在开玩笑。
@Lore
si ma abbiamo il sole, mare e pizza
是啊，但我们有阳光、大海和披萨。
@Dr. Francesca Salimbeni
dodici ore è il tempo medio
12小时是平均等待时间。
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@user5053740178928
here in the states, I went to the ER for 4 hours dying from stomach pain, I was not treated, but walked out owing $2100
在美国，我因为胃痛在急诊室待了4个小时，感觉快死了，但没有得到治疗，最后却欠了2100美元。
@Elizabeth May
$2100 for what?
2100美元是为什么？
@Mahdi.2
Did you had insurance
你有保险吗？
@Peter M.
he had insurance, but it kicks in only after 10k
他有保险，但只有在达到1万美元之后才生效。
@fabian robledo
some ibuprofen and send u out the door
给你点布洛芬就把你打发走了。
@user5053740178928
the doctor came in and shook my hand, gave me one antibiotic in a tiny cup, said it was likely diverticulosis and that it was probably viral with no underlying cause. they did one blood work panel.
医生进来跟我握了手，给了我一小杯抗生素，说可能是憩室炎，而且可能是病毒性的，没有潜在原因。他们做了一次血检。
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