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特朗普称没有中国学生的美国大学“将会完蛋”

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@Mike-x3k3h
So everything that the US does the Russian and Chinese know everything. That should scare you.

所以美国所做的一切,俄罗斯和中国都知道,这应该会让你感到害怕。

@outabout8125
Please do that, you will just make China more advanced in their science and technology

请继续这样做,你只会让中国在科学技术上更加先进。

@celxoirealyx
What your media told you: They steal from us! What actually happened: Our gov pay them to make toys for us. They went home with said toys and its research papers.

你们的媒体告诉你们:他们偷我们的东西!实际上发生了什么:我们的政府付钱给他们为我们制造玩具,他们带着这些玩具和研究论文回家了。

@vincenttong1764
The other problem is the educational program of the U.S in which we are not competitive in the global market anymore. We do not rank even in the top 10 but we are around number 40. The agencies want the best, and the educational systems that produce the best hires in the stem field, are those that come from abroad. If we encourage again hard sciences and reform our education system maybe we'll start to have a domestic edge and then a generation of domestic talents to choose from. It's not only about curtailment of foreign hires but making sure we produce the best talent here in the U.S in the long run.

另一个问题是美国的教育体系,我们在全球市场上不再具有竞争力,我们甚至没有进入前十名,而是排在40名左右。机构想要最好的人才,而在STEM领域培养出最好人才的教育体系来自国外。如果我们再次鼓励硬科学并改革我们的教育体系,也许我们将开始拥有国内优势,然后培养出一代国内人才可供选择。这不仅关乎减少外国雇佣,还会确保我们在美国长期培养出最好的人才。

@uswvme862
I’m sure we’ll get that domestic educational edge by decreasing our funding for American’s education, to the tune of reducing by 200 billion annually for the next 10 years, instead of ramping it up. Yes, we increased the budget for defense by 100-300 billion annually for the next 10 years (sensible and necessary) while simultaneously reducing our spending on education. I have a feeling we have many infiltrators posing as Americans whom hate our Country. Sadly, a significant portion are in both Parties, and each party seems to be competing over who can cripple America the quickest, for the benefit of China

我相信,通过减少对美国教育的资助,我们将在未来10年内每年减少2000亿美元,而不是增加教育投入从而获得国内教育优势。是的,我们在未来10年内每年增加1000-3000亿美元的国防预算(明智且必要),同时减少教育支出。我有一种感觉,我们有许多伪装成美国人的渗透者,他们憎恨我们的国家。可悲的是两党中都有相当一部分这样的人,每个政党似乎都在竞争谁能为中国的利益最快地削弱美国。

@vincenttong1764
@uswvme862 you mean having the most spending in the world on education per student while being at number 40? Is that more money we need then or an efficiency issue?

@uswvme862 你是说我们在每个学生身上的教育支出是世界上最多的,但排名却在第40位?这是我们需要更多钱的问题,还是效率问题?

@uswvme862
@vincenttong1764 Um, yeah. Tell me, Newton, will decreasing our expenditures on education in despite of being a very unintelligent Country somehow make it… better? Doubtful.
We should grant every single American child enough of a voucher/grant to attend a reasonably impressive private school, and afterwards, dismantle the Federal Board of Education — not destroy something before establishing a replacement.

嗯,是的。告诉我,尽管我们是一个非常不聪明的国家,减少教育支出会让我们变得……更好吗?这值得怀疑。
我们应该为每个美国孩子提供足够的代金券/补助,让他们能够进入一所相当不错的私立学校,然后解散联邦教育委员会——而不是在建立替代品之前摧毁某些东西。

@vincenttong1764
​@uswvme862 if other countries can use their money wisely why cannot the U.S? Would you invest in a company or a person who didn't have a good track record of being accountable for that money? If you were a creditors would you lend to someone with bad credit even more money? No the company would need to restructure and make themselves more efficient first. In the real world that's how it works why would it be different with the department of education?

@uswvme862 如果其他国家可以明智地使用他们的钱,为什么美国不能?你会投资一家或一个没有良好资金管理记录的公司或个人吗?如果你是债权人,你会借给信用不良的人更多钱吗?不,公司需要首先重组并提高效率。在现实世界中,这就是它的运作方式,为什么教育部会有所不同?

@brb__bathroom
Tom Cotton makes a fair point, unless russia and China allows open doors, why should the US do so?

Tom Cotton提出了一个合理的观点,除非俄罗斯和中国开放门户,否则美国为什么要这样做?

@kathygillock9977
Do you really think Russia and China would play fair? �� NO Do not allow this!

你真的认为俄罗斯和中国会公平竞争吗?不,他们不会允许这样做!

@fadsa342
American scientists do go to some Chinese labs. We also invest differently in scientific research than those countries do meaning they produce researchers at a different rate than us. Even if you go to US universities you'll often find that many phd and masters students aren't US citizens.

美国科学家确实去了一些中国实验室,我们在科学研究上的投资也与那些国家不同,这意味着他们以与我们不同的速度培养研究人员。即使你去美国的大学,你也会发现许多博士和硕士学生不是美国公民。

@danam3966
@fadsa342 true. most people don’t understand 1) how low-standard k-12 education is in US and therefore there is small pool of master & phd candidates 2) this is not 1880 when science publications were rare and researchers had no idea what was happening beyond their labs; go to google scholars or research gate for example and you will know what is going on in the world. Tom Cotton is a product of the poor critical thinking of our education

@fadsa342 没错。大多数人不明白1)美国的K-12教育水平有多低,因此硕士和博士候选人的数量很少 2)这不是1880年,当时科学出版物很少,研究人员不知道实验室外发生了什么;例如,你可以去谷歌学术或研究之门,你就会知道世界上发生了什么。Tom Cotton是我们教育中批判性思维贫乏的产物。

@danam3966
Well, Tom Cotton needs to learn geography as he often can not distinguish countries from one another. Remember: “ I served my country in Singapore. I am not from China!” and Tom Cotton didn’t understand difference ??�� product of our education

好吧,Tom Cotton需要学习地理,因为他经常无法区分国家。记住:“我在新加坡为我的国家服务,我不是来自中国!”而Tom Cotton不理解区别吗?这就是我们的教育的产物。

@ekujohnson1362
The US allowed them because they are useful and more advanced...They can do what you can't do..

美国允许他们是因为他们有用且更先进……他们可以做你做不到的事情。

@cashaeleatemla
American government labs are facing a “growing threat” of espionage from foreign adversaries, former Energy Department and national security officials told lawmakers Thursday, with some Chinese researchers raising alarms by collaborating on “nuclear weapons work” with US colleagues.
Two former Department of Energy (DOE) undersecretaries for science and an ex-US counterintelligence officer told members of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that the scientific espionage was ripping off American innovations and using them to develop weapons and other tech.

前能源部和国家安全官员周四告诉立法者,美国政府实验室正面临来自外国对手的“日益增长的间D威胁”,一些中国研究人员通过与美国同事合作“核武器工作”而引发警报。
两位前能源部科学副部长和一位前美国反情报官员告诉参议院能源和自然资源委员会的成员,科学间D正在窃取美国的创新并将其用于开发武器和其他技术。

@truthsearch2366
Can you pls define who is American? honestly no country in the world can perfectly define their nationality.

你能定义一下谁是美国人吗?老实说,世界上没有一个国家能完美地定义他们的国籍。

@uswvme862
@truthsearch2366 If there’s one or two Countries in the world who can define themselves in this day and age, it is America and Israel. Nationalities matter. Palestinians never existed and there is no government or country called Palestine. I just seen comments about British people unable to define who’s British, well, we certainly don’t have that problem in America. We don’t look at color or heritage to define Nationality. We look at allegiance first, and then familial history. If you were, not only born, but conceived, bred, and raised American, then you’re American. Also, if your father is an American, by extension, you will find it easier to become American. Idk why its such a common sense position for those of us who are thoroughbred red-blooded Americans, but it seems disloyal and unpatriotic people just cannot conceive of such a thing, hence, they want to dish Citizenship out like it’s loose change.

@truthsearch2366 如果世界上有一两个国家能在当今时代定义自己,那就是美国和以色列。国籍很重要。巴勒斯坦人从未存在过,也没有一个叫巴勒斯坦的政府或国家。我刚刚看到关于英国人无法定义谁是英国人的评论,好吧,我们在美国当然不存在这个问题。我们不看肤色或血统来定义国籍,我们首先看忠诚度,然后是家族历史。如果你不仅出生在美国,而且在美国受孕、养育和长大,那么你就是美国人。此外,如果你的父亲是美国人,那么你也会更容易成为美国人。我不知道为什么这对我们这些纯种红血统的美国人来说是一个常识性的立场,但不忠诚和不爱国的人似乎无法理解这样的事情,因此,他们想像分发零钱一样分发公民身份。

@Assisi9
What kind of reciprocity is he looking for, when at the same time he trumpets that all the the cutting edge research occurs in the US? Why would US scientists go to Russia and China if they're behind in tech?

他在寻找什么样的互惠,同时他又鼓吹所有尖端研究都发生在美国?如果他们在技术上落后,美国科学家为什么要去俄罗斯和中国?

@caseya2151
I going to admit... Scientists live in a world among themselves... However, Sen Cotton does bring up a very interesting point... Which did raise an eyebrow with me. This shouldn't go unnoticed and be put to the wayside. Which does bring up another point... Forget about the Scientists... How many are working as bureaucrats of the 2.25 Million? Sort of explains a lot... eh?

我要承认……科学家们生活在自己的世界里……然而,参议员Cotton确实提出了一个非常有趣的观点……这确实让我感到惊讶。这不应该被忽视或被搁置一旁,因为这确实引出了另一个观点……忘掉科学家……有多少人在225万官僚中工作?这解释了很多……嗯?

@maxdc988
Senator, I believe China and Russia would only recruit American scientists into their labs if they have the right caliber, not because they are a TOM, Dick and Harry from America. ����

参议员,我相信中国和俄罗斯只会招募有合适能力的美国科学家进入他们的实验室,而不是因为他们是来自美国的普通人。

@cashaeleatemla
Researchers deputized on behalf of Beijing ended up stealing intellectual property and other technological innovations for batteries, electric vehicles, and semiconductors and are even “trying to steal the future of quantum and fusion,” Dabbar testified.

代表北京的研究人员最终窃取了电池、电动汽车和半导体的知识产权和其他技术创新,甚至“试图窃取量子和融合的未来”,Dabbar作证说。

@celxoirealyx
But these technologies are researched and designed by said foreign scientist too. Basically they're stealing their own homework �� we should stop being condescending.

但这些技术也是由这些外国科学家研究和设计的。基本上,他们是在偷自己的作业。我们应该停止居高临下。

@Hoo88846
Does he think science came from USA? Does he think China with 5000 years of civilization and history with a long list of inventions need to copy from a country that didn’t exist for most of recorded human history with only less than 300 years of history? When China opened the Silk Road during the Han Dynasty connecting trade with the Roman Empire, where was USA? When China built the Great Wall and Terra Cotta Army during the Qin Dynasty, where was USA? When China invented their Four Great Chinese Inventions like paper, gunpowder, compass and printing (both woodblock and movable type), and invented Sinospheric cultures Japan, Korea and Vietnam, inventing amazing Chinese cuisine with noodles, dumplings, rice, rice wine, rice noodles, doufu, miso, soy sauce, tea, mocha, paper folding art, penzai (bonsai), weiqi, which the Japanese and Koreans and Vietnamese can’t stop copying from, where was USA? Does he really think the world couldn’t do science before USA came along? What an arrogant usurper of glory just like Satan pretending to be the “creator” and “savior”, the Great Deception of the Anti Christ “God’s chosen people” and its Beast USA (Matthew 24, Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, 2nd Thessalonians 2).

他认为科学来自美国吗?他认为拥有5000年文明和历史、发明无数的中国需要从一个在人类历史大部分时间里不存在、只有不到300年历史的国家抄袭吗?当中国在汉朝开通丝绸之路与罗马帝国进行贸易时,美国在哪里?当中国在秦朝建造长城和兵马俑时,美国在哪里?当中国发明了四大发明——纸、火药、指南针和印刷术(木版和活字印刷),并发明了汉字文化圈的日本、韩国和越南,发明了令人惊叹的中国美食——面条、饺子、米饭、米酒、米粉、豆腐、味噌、酱油、茶、摩卡、折纸艺术、盆景、围棋等日本、韩国和越南人无法停止抄袭的东西时,美国在哪里?他真的认为世界在美国出现之前无法从事科学吗?多么傲慢的荣耀篡夺者啊,就像撒旦假装是“创造者”和“救世主”,反基督的“上帝的选民”及其野兽美国的伟大欺骗一样(马太福音24章,启示录2:9和3:9,帖撒罗尼迦后书2章)。

@patriciayohn6136
Do any of these people who are called into Congress ever anticipate the questions that they may be asked so that they are prepared when they appear? IMO the answer is no and a waste of time at taxpayer expense!

这些被召入国会的人中有没有人会预料到他们可能会被问到的问题,以便他们在出现时做好准备?在我看来,答案是否定的,这是在浪费纳税人的钱!

@mautan8453
I started to hear a new insult circulating ....along the lines of " You have a Cotton Brain" or "Cotton in your Brain". Finally understood where this expression originated

我开始听到一个新的侮辱在流传……类似于“你有棉花脑(Cotton的名字)”或“你脑子里有棉花”。我终于明白了这个表达的来源。

@willoem2
Lets remember those scientist were there during the Trump's administration as well.. They have been there for decades...

让我们记住,这些科学家在特朗普政府期间也在那里……他们已经在那里几十年了。

@mikehoh1719
What a naive and racist politician he is, if your country doesn't have all these foreign scientists, your country can be advanced???? Baby brain

他是一个多么天真和种族主义的政治家啊,如果你的国家没有所有这些外国科学家,你的国家能保持先进吗?真是个婴儿脑。

@hezabelle
Tom cotton cherry picks numbers and stats. Employers chose scientists based on ability. Americans colleges, contrary to America’s belief, are far from the worlds best and businesses will choose foreign nationals because they are more skilled than those studying chemistry along side majoring in cheerleading and taking American history 101.

Tom Cotton会挑选数字和统计数据,但雇主会根据能力选择科学家。与美国人的信念相反,美国大学远非世界上最好的,企业会选择外国人,因为他们比那些在化学专业旁边主修啦啦队和美国基础历史的学生更有技能。

@MrStevemur
Even with its subpar elementary and secondary schools, the US does produce a few good STEM students. Most of them go where the money is: finance.

尽管美国的中小学水平不高,但它确实培养了一些优秀的STEM学生,但他们中的大多数去了有钱的地方:金融行业。

@vicentdez1696
Thats big fatal lie...can you name one person whos working in finance and got a PhD in physics

那是个致命的谎言……你能说出一个在金融领域工作并获得物理学博士学位的人吗?

@bobsmith3983
@vicentdez1696 He meant that top US students go into finance rather than science. I'm sure there are scientists and mathematicians that work in finance. For example actuaries.

@vicentdez1696 他的意思是美国的顶尖学生进入了金融领域而不是科学领域。我相信有科学家和数学家在金融领域工作,例如精算师。

@TingMo-n4i
It sound like Americans are in big trouble �������� What a joke and waste of taxpayer money at this hearing.

听起来美国人陷入了大麻烦,这次听证会真是个笑话,浪费了纳税人的钱。

@NerveFlux
During my five years serving a skilled apprenticeship they called the Conex containers Drago's and all the imported materials were made in China. What did Obama call it during one of his speeches? Something about the new world economy. You can choose to protest or you can choose work. Someone else might of said that last part.

在我五年的熟练学徒期间,他们称Conex集装箱为Drago's,因为所有进口材料都是中国制造的。奥巴马在一次演讲中称之为什么?关于新世界经济的某些东西。你可以选择抗议,也可以选择工作(最后一部分可能是别人说的)。

@tonyatgoogle6076
Scientific community mindset: share and collaborate.
US senator mindset: create enemies and fear

科学界的思维:分享和合作。
美国参议员的思维:制造敌人和恐惧。

@Leoq-zk6wt
oh well, people (Chinese or Russian doesn't matter) coming to the US looking for better life, so, if the place nolonger want them, they will just stop coming, and start leaving, simple.

哦,好吧,人们(中国人或俄罗斯人无所谓)来美国寻找更好的生活,所以,如果这个地方不再需要他们,他们就会不会再来并开始离开,很简单。

@sugarland1729
The value of science has degraded in the US. research and innovation is considered low level work that has to be carried out by foreigners (like an advance version of fruit-picking) because Americans are after either management or money making and consider research and science beneath them. That said, there are still a few Americans who choose the route of science, often time end up poor (relative to their counterparts)

科学的价值在美国已经下降。研究和创新被认为是低层次的工作,必须由外国人完成(就像高级版的摘水果),因为美国人要么追求管理,要么追求赚钱,他们认为研究和科学降低了他们的身份。话虽如此,仍然有一些美国人选择科学道路,但通常他们最终会变得贫穷(相对于他们的同行)。

@babablacksheephyaw
This is the exact senator who asks TikTok CEO whether Singapore is China. American voted for him, don't blame anyone else

正是这位参议员问TikTok的 CEO新加坡是不是中国?美国人投票选了他,不要责怪别人。

@Below4DC
China: Come!Come! We welcome you, bring your family if u want and call us so that we have your lab and accommodation ready

中国:来吧!来吧!我们欢迎你,如果你想带家人来,打电话给我们,我们会为你准备好实验室和住宿。

@TheIdiosyncraticMe-t3u
Duh, stupid question. Chinese doesn't need American scientist because they had more than enough. While you need Chinese scientist because you don't have enough.

呃,这是个愚蠢的问题。中国不需要美国科学家,因为他们的科学家已经足够多了。而你们需要中国科学家,因为你们的科学家不够。

@Tina-j8p1z
I know!! Not as many as there are foreigners "fixing" our gov't computers and internet !!!......and they wonder why everything in the country gets hacked!!��

我知道!!没有像“修复”我们的政府电脑和互联网的外国人那么多!!!……他们还在想为什么国家的一切都被黑客攻击了!!

@zincay
It is not that China does not allow U.S Scientist to be in Chinese lab, it is U.S does not allow many of its scientist to be in Chinese lab.

并不是中国不允许美国科学家在中国的实验室工作,而是美国不允许其科学家在中国的实验室工作。

@Froskru
Do Americans need to go to China or Russia? Those questions are out of quack. America and Europe are the world leaders in technology and science wow.

美国人需要去中国或俄罗斯吗?这些问题太荒谬了。美国和欧洲是科技领域的全球领导者,哇。

 
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