美军军官告诉部队：轰炸伊朗是“上帝神圣计划的一部分”
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Military Commander Tells Troops Bombing Iran Is ‘Part Of God’s Divine plan’
军事指挥官告知部队：轰炸伊朗是“上帝神圣计划的一部分”
One commander had a “big grin” on his face while saying Donald Trump “has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran, a service member said.
一名军人表示，一位指挥官在说唐纳德·特朗普“被耶稣选中，要在伊朗点燃信号之火”时，脸上挂着“灿烂的笑容”。
For some U.S. military commanders, the emerging war in Iran is part of a biblical plan to bring about the end of the world as we know it, according to complaints filed by over 100 service members.
据 100 多名美军士兵提交的诉状，对于部分美军指挥官来说，正在发酵的对伊战争是《圣经》所预言的末日计划的组成部分，这将导致我们所熟知的世界的终结。
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has received a litany of complaints about religious ideology seeping into military orders since the U.S. and Israel began bombing Iran, independent journalist Jon Larsen first reported.
独立记者乔恩·拉森最先报道称，自从美国和以色列开始轰炸伊朗，军方宗教自由基金会已经收到一系列投诉，称宗教意识形态渗入了军事命令。
Mikey Weinstein, founder and president of MRFF, a nonprofit group established 21 years ago that focuses on ensuring constitutional protections for service members, spoke with HuffPost by phone Tuesday morning and illuminated some details of the complaints, which have come from more than three dozen military units situated in at least 30 different military installations.
这个有 21 年历史的非盈利组织专注于确保军人的宪法保护，该组织的创始人兼主席迈奇·维恩斯坦于周二上午接受了《赫芬顿邮报》的电话采访，并详细介绍了投诉情况，这些投诉来自驻扎在至少 30 个不同军事基地的三十多个军事单位。
“We started getting calls in the wee hours of Saturday morning from people saying their commanders were just jubilant about this and trying to tell people, ‘Don’t worry, it’s all part of God’s plan,’” Weinstein said.
维恩斯坦说:"周六凌晨，我们开始接到电话，人们说他们的指挥官对此兴高采烈，并试图告诉人们'别担心，这都是上帝计划的一部分'"。
Weinstein said the “metric promised” in the Bible’s Book of Revelation is horrifying and should worry everyone.
温斯坦称，《圣经·启示录》中"承诺的指标"令人恐惧，应当引起所有人的警觉。
“They are promised a 200-mile-long river that is four-and-a-half feet deep filled with nothing but the blood that their weaponized version of Jesus will spill at the Battle of Armageddon,” Weinstein said. “That’s a lot of blood.”
"他们被告知会出现一条长达 200 英里、深四英尺半的河流，其中流淌的全是他们在末世决战中，那个被武器化版本的耶稣将要流出的鲜血，"温斯坦表示，"那将是一条血河。"
Part of what makes the accounts so disturbing, Weinstein said, is that service members aren’t able to push back when they’re given orders that blur the line regarding the separation of church and state.
温斯坦指出，这些说法的骇人之处在于，当军人们接到那些模糊政教分离界限的命令时，他们无法提出异议。
“This is all about time, place and manner,” he said. “If you’re being proselytized to by your superior, you can’t say, ‘Get out of my face.’ Under the military’s criminal code of justice, insubordination is considered a felony.”
"这完全关乎时机、场合与方式,"他表示,"若上级对你进行宗教劝诱，你不能说'滚'。根据军法，违抗命令被视作重罪。"
One of the complaints MRFF received over the weekend came from a non-commissioned officer currently stationed outside of Iran but awaiting deployment at a moment’s notice. That officer filed the complaint on behalf of himself and 15 other troops, all of whom are of different religious backgrounds. (For their protection, MRFF is keeping the identity of these service members anonymous.)
MRFF 周末接到的投诉之一来自一名目前驻扎在伊朗境外、但随时待命部署的士官。该军官代表自己及其他 15 名士兵提交了投诉，所有人都来自不同的宗教背景。（出于保护目的，MRFF 未公开这些军人的身份信息。）
The non-commissioned officer, who is Christian, reported to MRFF that a commander told them to tell fellow troops that the war in Iran was “all part of God’s divine plan.” The commander allegedly cited the Book of Revelation and the section specifically referring to Armageddon and the “imminent” return of Jesus Christ.
这位信奉基督教的士官向 MRFF 报告称，一位指挥官要求他们告知战友，伊朗战争"全是上帝神圣计划的一部分"。据称，该指挥官引用了《启示录》中关于哈米吉多顿和耶稣基督"即将"再临的章节。
The non-commissioned officer said the messaging from higher-ups is not only “destroy[ing] morale and unit cohesion” among troops, but they also believe the commanders are flagrantly violating their oaths to uphold the Constitution, which guarantees the freedom of religion.
一名士官表示，上级传达的信息不仅"摧毁了部队的士气与凝聚力"，士兵们还认为指挥官公然违背了维护宪法的誓言——宪法保障了宗教自由。
According to the complaint first reported by Larsen, the commander said President Donald Trump “has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth.”
根据拉森首次报道的投诉内容，这位指挥官表示，唐纳德·特朗普总统“已被耶稣任命为在伊朗点燃信号之火的人，这将引发末日之战，并标志着他重返人间。”
The commander “had a big grin on his face when he said all of this which made his message seem even more crazy,” the complaint said.
诉状称，指挥官"说这些话时脸上挂着大大的笑容，这让他的信息显得更加疯狂"。
“I and my fellow troops know that it is completely wrong to have to suffer through what our commander said today. It’s not just the separation of church and state … It’s the fact that our commander feels as though he is fully supported and justified by the entire (combat unit’s name withheld) chain of command to inflict his Armageddon views of our attack on Iran on those of us beneath him in the chain of command,” the officer wrote in his complaint to MRFF.
"我和我的战友们都明白，承受指挥官今天这番话是绝对错误的。这不仅仅是政教分离的问题……关键在于，我们的指挥官似乎深信，整个(隐去作战单位名称)指挥链完全支持他，并认为他有正当理由将他对袭击伊朗的末日审判观点强加给指挥链中比他级别低的官兵，"该军官在致军人之友基金会的投诉信中写道。
Weinstein said some service members called him on Sunday to report that they were being invited to Bible studies at their commanders’ personal homes to “discuss how this was all part of the plan and it’s all being lived out in the Book of Revelation and Christian eschatology.”
韦恩斯坦表示，周日有一些军人打电话向他报告，他们被邀请去指挥官的家中参加圣经学习，探讨“这一切如何都是计划的一部分，并都在《启示录》和基督教末世论中得到了验证”。
Commanders were “in a hurry” to get subordinates on board, according to the complaints received by MRFF.
据“军事宗教自由基金会”收到的投诉称，指挥官们正“急于”让下属加入。
Once a service member makes a complaint to MRFF, finding a solution can be difficult. Service members have a few different options, Weinstein said: If troops are told they lack courage, intelligence or bravery because of their religious tradition or lack thereof, they can file an inspector general complaint or an ethics complaint within the military.
一名军人若向军种宗教自由基金会提出投诉，寻求解决方案可能颇为棘手。魏因斯坦指出，军人有几种不同的选择：若因宗教传统或有或无而被指责缺乏勇气、智慧或勇敢精神，他们可以向军方监察长提出投诉或进行道德申诉。
“But then you completely out yourself,” Weinstein said. “And when you do that in the military, you become what we call a ‘tarantula on a wedding cake.’ How long do you think that cake lasts at that wedding?”
“但如此一来你就彻底暴露了，”韦恩斯坦说道，“而在军队里这样做，你会变成我们所说的‘婚礼蛋糕上的毒蜘蛛’。你觉得那块蛋糕在那场婚礼上能存活多久？”
Troops can complain to military judge advocates, lawyers or chaplains, but the latter can be especially tricky. The majority of the U.S. military’s chaplains are Christian and many are evangelical.
士兵可以向军事法官、律师或随军牧师投诉，但后者尤其棘手。美军多数随军牧师是基督徒，且很多是福音派。
“By itself, that’s fine,” Weinstein said. “But if you are a Christian Nationalist, you don’t pay any attention to the time, place or manner … with any sort of religious extremism, we end up not with little streams, or creeks or brooks, but with oceans and oceans of blood.”
“单看这一点，没有问题，”温斯坦说。“但如果你是一个基督教民族主义者，你就不会注意时间、地点或方式……对于任何形式的宗教极端主义，最终我们面对的将不是小溪、小渠或小河，而是血海汪洋。”
Weinstein said none of this should necessarily be shocking. The evangelical leanings of the Trump administration — and in particular the Department of Defense — have not been a secret. At a prayer breakfast last month, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth claimed the U.S. was a “Christian nation,” and there are prayer meetings at the Pentagon each month.
韦恩斯坦指出，这些情况都未必令人震惊。特朗普政府的福音派倾向——尤其是国防部——并非秘密。在上个月的一次祈祷早餐会上，国防部长皮特·赫格塞声称美国是一个"基督教国家"，而且五角大楼每月都会举行祈祷会。
But putting religion into politics is inflicting “generational damage” onto the U.S. and its military, Weinstein said.
但温斯坦表示，将宗教引入政治正在对美国及其军队造成“世代性的伤害”。
The White House did not immediately return a request for comment.
白宫未立即回应置评请求。
Harrison Mann, a 13-year veteran of the U.S. Army who served under President Barack Obama, during Trump’s first term and under President Joe Biden, told HuffPost that for soldiers, there “isn’t much of a difference” inside the military — at least “culturally speaking” — even when presidents are “doing some really crazy stuff” publicly, he said.
曾在巴拉克·奥巴马执政期间、特朗普首个任期内以及乔·拜登总统任下服役的美国陆军 13 年老兵哈里森·曼恩告诉《赫芬顿邮报》，对于士兵来说，军队内部——至少在“文化层面”上——即使总统们公开“做出一些极其疯狂的举动”，也“没有太大差别”。
Because of that, he argues it may be too soon to say whether Hegseth can actually inflict permanent damage to the military. Mann is, however, deeply worried about what happens to the public perception of the troops in the meantime.
因此，他认为现在断定赫格塞斯能否真正对军队造成永久性损害还为时过早。然而，曼恩对于在此期间公众对军队的看法变化深感忧虑。
“There’s danger in commanders telling soldiers they only vouch for Christians, whites or MAGA supporters. When the public starts to view the military that way too, then you get to a much more dangerous place where they no longer have trust in them,” he said.
"指挥官告诉士兵他们只保佑基督徒、白人或是支持‘让美国再次伟大’的人，这种做法存在风险。一旦公众也开始以这种方式看待军队，那么就会陷入一个更为危险的境地——人们不再信任他们。"他说道。
Today, Mann is the associate director of campaigns for Win Without War, a grassroots progressive foreign policy advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C. that formed in 2003 in response to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Mann left his role as assistant to the head of the Middle East Center at the Defense Intelligence Agency, or DIA, in 2024, for moral reasons.
如今，曼恩担任“不战而胜”组织的竞选活动副总监。这是一个扎根于华盛顿特区的草根进步外交政策倡导团体，成立于 2003 年，旨在回应美国对伊拉克的入侵。出于道德原因，曼恩于 2024 年辞去了在美国国防情报局中东中心担任主任助理的职务。
After the attacks in Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, Mann said his mission as a soldier primarily became about supporting Israel and sharing intel with Israeli military officials. But once he saw what the war in Gaza was becoming — “a GENOCIDE,” he said — he resigned.
在 2023 年 10 月 7 日以色列遭受袭击后，曼表示他作为士兵的使命主要集中在支援以色列以及与以军官员共享情报。但当目睹加沙战争演变为他口中的"种族灭绝"后，他选择了辞职。
Mann knows from personal experience how frightening it can be for a soldier to speak out. The Trump administration’s politicization of the military, as the MRFF complaints clearly show, makes it harder. Mann worries it is fast creating a situation where subordinate leaders may believe the messaging from on high grants them “tacit approval to start imposing their own religious beliefs on others.”
曼恩从亲身经历中了解到，士兵发声可能有多么令人恐惧。正如军事宗教自由基金会的投诉所清楚显示的那样，特朗普政府对军队的政治化让这种情况变得更加困难。曼恩担心，这会迅速造成一种局面，即下级领导者可能认为来自高层的信息赋予了他们"默许权，可以开始将自己的宗教信仰强加给他人"。
“I can tell you I’m very worried,” he said. “I think most people who join the military, they want to do something they feel is noble and they want to do the right thing. But the potential consequences for refusing an unlawful order or standing up for what you think is right is very high … So it goes back to the question: What can everyone else do to help them?”
"我可以告诉你我非常担忧，"他说道，"我认为大多数参军的人，他们想做自认为高尚的事情，想要做正确的事。但拒绝非法命令或坚持你认为正确的立场，其潜在后果极其严重……所以问题又回到了原点：其他人能做些什么来帮助他们？"
To start, Mann said the public can broadcast support for service members who speak up or disobey unlawful orders or unconstitutional directives. That validation is in short supply inside the military, so it must come from the outside, he said.
曼恩表示，公众可以向那些敢于发声、拒绝执行非法命令或违宪指示的军人传播支持信息。他指出，军队内部对此类行为的认可极其有限，因此需要来自外部的声援。
“It’s very frightening to imagine that you would be on your own if you tried to defy an unlawful order,” Mann said. “We need to see increasing efforts by members of Congress to impeach Secretary Hegseth and everyone can put pressure on their lawmakers to support that effort.
"试想如果你试图违抗一项非法命令，将不得不独自面对一切，这非常可怕，"曼恩说道。"我们需要看到国会成员加大弹劾黑格斯部长的力度，每个人都可以向立法者施压，支持这一行动。"
“You can support a lot of the organizations like About Face and Win Without War that are trying to create a welcoming, safe space for service members who are experiencing this kind of unfair treatment,” he said.
“你可以支持许多组织，如‘直面改变’与‘不战而胜’，他们正为遭受此类不公待遇的服役人员打造一个受欢迎且安全的交流空间。”他如此说道。
Mann said he isn’t hopeless about the future even though there is much to despair over right now.
曼恩说，他对未来并非没有希望，尽管现在有很多令人绝望的事情。
“It’s way too soon to give up. There’s just so much that we have not tried… there are so many pressure tactics that haven’t culminated yet. There’s so much people power that has not yet been mobilized. As terrifying as what is happening is, there’s a critical opportunity for growth and pushback against Trump’s agenda,” he said.
"现在放弃还为时过早。我们还有很多事情没有尝试...还有很多施压策略尚未达到高潮。民众的力量还远未动员起来。尽管正在发生的事情令人恐惧，但这仍是一个重要的成长机遇，也是抵制特朗普议程的契机，"他说道。
Military Commander Tells Troops Bombing Iran Is ‘Part Of God’s Divine plan’
军事指挥官告知部队：轰炸伊朗是“上帝神圣计划的一部分”
One commander had a “big grin” on his face while saying Donald Trump “has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran, a service member said.
一名军人表示，一位指挥官在说唐纳德·特朗普“被耶稣选中，要在伊朗点燃信号之火”时，脸上挂着“灿烂的笑容”。
For some U.S. military commanders, the emerging war in Iran is part of a biblical plan to bring about the end of the world as we know it, according to complaints filed by over 100 service members.
据 100 多名美军士兵提交的诉状，对于部分美军指挥官来说，正在发酵的对伊战争是《圣经》所预言的末日计划的组成部分，这将导致我们所熟知的世界的终结。
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has received a litany of complaints about religious ideology seeping into military orders since the U.S. and Israel began bombing Iran, independent journalist Jon Larsen first reported.
独立记者乔恩·拉森最先报道称，自从美国和以色列开始轰炸伊朗，军方宗教自由基金会已经收到一系列投诉，称宗教意识形态渗入了军事命令。
Mikey Weinstein, founder and president of MRFF, a nonprofit group established 21 years ago that focuses on ensuring constitutional protections for service members, spoke with HuffPost by phone Tuesday morning and illuminated some details of the complaints, which have come from more than three dozen military units situated in at least 30 different military installations.
这个有 21 年历史的非盈利组织专注于确保军人的宪法保护，该组织的创始人兼主席迈奇·维恩斯坦于周二上午接受了《赫芬顿邮报》的电话采访，并详细介绍了投诉情况，这些投诉来自驻扎在至少 30 个不同军事基地的三十多个军事单位。
“We started getting calls in the wee hours of Saturday morning from people saying their commanders were just jubilant about this and trying to tell people, ‘Don’t worry, it’s all part of God’s plan,’” Weinstein said.
维恩斯坦说:"周六凌晨，我们开始接到电话，人们说他们的指挥官对此兴高采烈，并试图告诉人们'别担心，这都是上帝计划的一部分'"。
Weinstein said the “metric promised” in the Bible’s Book of Revelation is horrifying and should worry everyone.
温斯坦称，《圣经·启示录》中"承诺的指标"令人恐惧，应当引起所有人的警觉。
“They are promised a 200-mile-long river that is four-and-a-half feet deep filled with nothing but the blood that their weaponized version of Jesus will spill at the Battle of Armageddon,” Weinstein said. “That’s a lot of blood.”
"他们被告知会出现一条长达 200 英里、深四英尺半的河流，其中流淌的全是他们在末世决战中，那个被武器化版本的耶稣将要流出的鲜血，"温斯坦表示，"那将是一条血河。"
Part of what makes the accounts so disturbing, Weinstein said, is that service members aren’t able to push back when they’re given orders that blur the line regarding the separation of church and state.
温斯坦指出，这些说法的骇人之处在于，当军人们接到那些模糊政教分离界限的命令时，他们无法提出异议。
“This is all about time, place and manner,” he said. “If you’re being proselytized to by your superior, you can’t say, ‘Get out of my face.’ Under the military’s criminal code of justice, insubordination is considered a felony.”
"这完全关乎时机、场合与方式,"他表示,"若上级对你进行宗教劝诱，你不能说'滚'。根据军法，违抗命令被视作重罪。"
One of the complaints MRFF received over the weekend came from a non-commissioned officer currently stationed outside of Iran but awaiting deployment at a moment’s notice. That officer filed the complaint on behalf of himself and 15 other troops, all of whom are of different religious backgrounds. (For their protection, MRFF is keeping the identity of these service members anonymous.)
MRFF 周末接到的投诉之一来自一名目前驻扎在伊朗境外、但随时待命部署的士官。该军官代表自己及其他 15 名士兵提交了投诉，所有人都来自不同的宗教背景。（出于保护目的，MRFF 未公开这些军人的身份信息。）
The non-commissioned officer, who is Christian, reported to MRFF that a commander told them to tell fellow troops that the war in Iran was “all part of God’s divine plan.” The commander allegedly cited the Book of Revelation and the section specifically referring to Armageddon and the “imminent” return of Jesus Christ.
这位信奉基督教的士官向 MRFF 报告称，一位指挥官要求他们告知战友，伊朗战争"全是上帝神圣计划的一部分"。据称，该指挥官引用了《启示录》中关于哈米吉多顿和耶稣基督"即将"再临的章节。
The non-commissioned officer said the messaging from higher-ups is not only “destroy[ing] morale and unit cohesion” among troops, but they also believe the commanders are flagrantly violating their oaths to uphold the Constitution, which guarantees the freedom of religion.
一名士官表示，上级传达的信息不仅"摧毁了部队的士气与凝聚力"，士兵们还认为指挥官公然违背了维护宪法的誓言——宪法保障了宗教自由。
According to the complaint first reported by Larsen, the commander said President Donald Trump “has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth.”
根据拉森首次报道的投诉内容，这位指挥官表示，唐纳德·特朗普总统“已被耶稣任命为在伊朗点燃信号之火的人，这将引发末日之战，并标志着他重返人间。”
The commander “had a big grin on his face when he said all of this which made his message seem even more crazy,” the complaint said.
诉状称，指挥官"说这些话时脸上挂着大大的笑容，这让他的信息显得更加疯狂"。
“I and my fellow troops know that it is completely wrong to have to suffer through what our commander said today. It’s not just the separation of church and state … It’s the fact that our commander feels as though he is fully supported and justified by the entire (combat unit’s name withheld) chain of command to inflict his Armageddon views of our attack on Iran on those of us beneath him in the chain of command,” the officer wrote in his complaint to MRFF.
"我和我的战友们都明白，承受指挥官今天这番话是绝对错误的。这不仅仅是政教分离的问题……关键在于，我们的指挥官似乎深信，整个(隐去作战单位名称)指挥链完全支持他，并认为他有正当理由将他对袭击伊朗的末日审判观点强加给指挥链中比他级别低的官兵，"该军官在致军人之友基金会的投诉信中写道。
Weinstein said some service members called him on Sunday to report that they were being invited to Bible studies at their commanders’ personal homes to “discuss how this was all part of the plan and it’s all being lived out in the Book of Revelation and Christian eschatology.”
韦恩斯坦表示，周日有一些军人打电话向他报告，他们被邀请去指挥官的家中参加圣经学习，探讨“这一切如何都是计划的一部分，并都在《启示录》和基督教末世论中得到了验证”。
Commanders were “in a hurry” to get subordinates on board, according to the complaints received by MRFF.
据“军事宗教自由基金会”收到的投诉称，指挥官们正“急于”让下属加入。
Once a service member makes a complaint to MRFF, finding a solution can be difficult. Service members have a few different options, Weinstein said: If troops are told they lack courage, intelligence or bravery because of their religious tradition or lack thereof, they can file an inspector general complaint or an ethics complaint within the military.
一名军人若向军种宗教自由基金会提出投诉，寻求解决方案可能颇为棘手。魏因斯坦指出，军人有几种不同的选择：若因宗教传统或有或无而被指责缺乏勇气、智慧或勇敢精神，他们可以向军方监察长提出投诉或进行道德申诉。
“But then you completely out yourself,” Weinstein said. “And when you do that in the military, you become what we call a ‘tarantula on a wedding cake.’ How long do you think that cake lasts at that wedding?”
“但如此一来你就彻底暴露了，”韦恩斯坦说道，“而在军队里这样做，你会变成我们所说的‘婚礼蛋糕上的毒蜘蛛’。你觉得那块蛋糕在那场婚礼上能存活多久？”
Troops can complain to military judge advocates, lawyers or chaplains, but the latter can be especially tricky. The majority of the U.S. military’s chaplains are Christian and many are evangelical.
士兵可以向军事法官、律师或随军牧师投诉，但后者尤其棘手。美军多数随军牧师是基督徒，且很多是福音派。
“By itself, that’s fine,” Weinstein said. “But if you are a Christian Nationalist, you don’t pay any attention to the time, place or manner … with any sort of religious extremism, we end up not with little streams, or creeks or brooks, but with oceans and oceans of blood.”
“单看这一点，没有问题，”温斯坦说。“但如果你是一个基督教民族主义者，你就不会注意时间、地点或方式……对于任何形式的宗教极端主义，最终我们面对的将不是小溪、小渠或小河，而是血海汪洋。”
Weinstein said none of this should necessarily be shocking. The evangelical leanings of the Trump administration — and in particular the Department of Defense — have not been a secret. At a prayer breakfast last month, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth claimed the U.S. was a “Christian nation,” and there are prayer meetings at the Pentagon each month.
韦恩斯坦指出，这些情况都未必令人震惊。特朗普政府的福音派倾向——尤其是国防部——并非秘密。在上个月的一次祈祷早餐会上，国防部长皮特·赫格塞声称美国是一个"基督教国家"，而且五角大楼每月都会举行祈祷会。
But putting religion into politics is inflicting “generational damage” onto the U.S. and its military, Weinstein said.
但温斯坦表示，将宗教引入政治正在对美国及其军队造成“世代性的伤害”。
The White House did not immediately return a request for comment.
白宫未立即回应置评请求。
Harrison Mann, a 13-year veteran of the U.S. Army who served under President Barack Obama, during Trump’s first term and under President Joe Biden, told HuffPost that for soldiers, there “isn’t much of a difference” inside the military — at least “culturally speaking” — even when presidents are “doing some really crazy stuff” publicly, he said.
曾在巴拉克·奥巴马执政期间、特朗普首个任期内以及乔·拜登总统任下服役的美国陆军 13 年老兵哈里森·曼恩告诉《赫芬顿邮报》，对于士兵来说，军队内部——至少在“文化层面”上——即使总统们公开“做出一些极其疯狂的举动”，也“没有太大差别”。
Because of that, he argues it may be too soon to say whether Hegseth can actually inflict permanent damage to the military. Mann is, however, deeply worried about what happens to the public perception of the troops in the meantime.
因此，他认为现在断定赫格塞斯能否真正对军队造成永久性损害还为时过早。然而，曼恩对于在此期间公众对军队的看法变化深感忧虑。
“There’s danger in commanders telling soldiers they only vouch for Christians, whites or MAGA supporters. When the public starts to view the military that way too, then you get to a much more dangerous place where they no longer have trust in them,” he said.
"指挥官告诉士兵他们只保佑基督徒、白人或是支持‘让美国再次伟大’的人，这种做法存在风险。一旦公众也开始以这种方式看待军队，那么就会陷入一个更为危险的境地——人们不再信任他们。"他说道。
Today, Mann is the associate director of campaigns for Win Without War, a grassroots progressive foreign policy advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C. that formed in 2003 in response to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Mann left his role as assistant to the head of the Middle East Center at the Defense Intelligence Agency, or DIA, in 2024, for moral reasons.
如今，曼恩担任“不战而胜”组织的竞选活动副总监。这是一个扎根于华盛顿特区的草根进步外交政策倡导团体，成立于 2003 年，旨在回应美国对伊拉克的入侵。出于道德原因，曼恩于 2024 年辞去了在美国国防情报局中东中心担任主任助理的职务。
After the attacks in Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, Mann said his mission as a soldier primarily became about supporting Israel and sharing intel with Israeli military officials. But once he saw what the war in Gaza was becoming — “a GENOCIDE,” he said — he resigned.
在 2023 年 10 月 7 日以色列遭受袭击后，曼表示他作为士兵的使命主要集中在支援以色列以及与以军官员共享情报。但当目睹加沙战争演变为他口中的"种族灭绝"后，他选择了辞职。
Mann knows from personal experience how frightening it can be for a soldier to speak out. The Trump administration’s politicization of the military, as the MRFF complaints clearly show, makes it harder. Mann worries it is fast creating a situation where subordinate leaders may believe the messaging from on high grants them “tacit approval to start imposing their own religious beliefs on others.”
曼恩从亲身经历中了解到，士兵发声可能有多么令人恐惧。正如军事宗教自由基金会的投诉所清楚显示的那样，特朗普政府对军队的政治化让这种情况变得更加困难。曼恩担心，这会迅速造成一种局面，即下级领导者可能认为来自高层的信息赋予了他们"默许权，可以开始将自己的宗教信仰强加给他人"。
“I can tell you I’m very worried,” he said. “I think most people who join the military, they want to do something they feel is noble and they want to do the right thing. But the potential consequences for refusing an unlawful order or standing up for what you think is right is very high … So it goes back to the question: What can everyone else do to help them?”
"我可以告诉你我非常担忧，"他说道，"我认为大多数参军的人，他们想做自认为高尚的事情，想要做正确的事。但拒绝非法命令或坚持你认为正确的立场，其潜在后果极其严重……所以问题又回到了原点：其他人能做些什么来帮助他们？"
To start, Mann said the public can broadcast support for service members who speak up or disobey unlawful orders or unconstitutional directives. That validation is in short supply inside the military, so it must come from the outside, he said.
曼恩表示，公众可以向那些敢于发声、拒绝执行非法命令或违宪指示的军人传播支持信息。他指出，军队内部对此类行为的认可极其有限，因此需要来自外部的声援。
“It’s very frightening to imagine that you would be on your own if you tried to defy an unlawful order,” Mann said. “We need to see increasing efforts by members of Congress to impeach Secretary Hegseth and everyone can put pressure on their lawmakers to support that effort.
"试想如果你试图违抗一项非法命令，将不得不独自面对一切，这非常可怕，"曼恩说道。"我们需要看到国会成员加大弹劾黑格斯部长的力度，每个人都可以向立法者施压，支持这一行动。"
“You can support a lot of the organizations like About Face and Win Without War that are trying to create a welcoming, safe space for service members who are experiencing this kind of unfair treatment,” he said.
“你可以支持许多组织，如‘直面改变’与‘不战而胜’，他们正为遭受此类不公待遇的服役人员打造一个受欢迎且安全的交流空间。”他如此说道。
Mann said he isn’t hopeless about the future even though there is much to despair over right now.
曼恩说，他对未来并非没有希望，尽管现在有很多令人绝望的事情。
“It’s way too soon to give up. There’s just so much that we have not tried… there are so many pressure tactics that haven’t culminated yet. There’s so much people power that has not yet been mobilized. As terrifying as what is happening is, there’s a critical opportunity for growth and pushback against Trump’s agenda,” he said.
"现在放弃还为时过早。我们还有很多事情没有尝试...还有很多施压策略尚未达到高潮。民众的力量还远未动员起来。尽管正在发生的事情令人恐惧，但这仍是一个重要的成长机遇，也是抵制特朗普议程的契机，"他说道。
评论翻译
ImperiumRome
It's kinda strange for Jesus to anoint an (allegedly) pedophile to do anything for him. But God works in mysterious ways, I suppose.
耶稣任命一个（据称是）恋童癖为他办事，听起来有点怪。但上帝行事自有其神秘的方式，我想。
jellobowlshifter
I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be handsome.
我还以为敌基督应该很英俊呢。
Zestyprotein
Not atrange in the Old Testament.
这在《旧约》里并不奇怪。
AdCool1638
Nebuchadnezzar, I suppose?
尼布甲尼撒，我猜？
WhatEntropyMeansToMe
Cyrus is, or at least was I haven't kept up, the comparison the real bible connected evangelicals made with Trump. A violent, non-believing ruler who is used by god to end the Babylonian Exile. That's more than enough for these types to grab onto and bend over backwards to make Trump fit a Biblical role.
居鲁士，至少以前是（我没一直关注），这是真正的福音派从圣经角度拿来与特朗普相提并论的对象。一个暴力、不信仰神的统治者，却被上帝用来结束巴比伦之囚。对这些人来说，这就足以让他们抓住不放，拼命要把特朗普塞进某个《圣经》角色里。
hfsh
Is it? Where does the bible give a single shit about consent?
是吗？圣经里什么时候在乎过同意不同意了？
Ecstatic_Bee6067
Narrow-minded words from those that will take no responsibility for the consequences
这种狭隘的言辞出自那些对后果毫无担当之人口中
tears_of_a_grad
I wonder what happens if a bearded, brown skinned Palestinian hippie who openly hates capitalists shows up to one of their meetings wearing a long white robe.
我在想，要是有个蓄胡子、棕色皮肤的巴勒斯坦嬉皮士，公开憎恨资本家，穿着白色长袍出现在他们的聚会上，会发生什么呢。
rubioburo
No need to wonder, they will send him to El Salvador surely.
毫无疑问，他们一定会把他遣送到萨尔瓦多。
gattboy1
He would probably make a good high school counselor in Colorado.
他或许能在科罗拉多州当个不错的高中辅导员。
DemonLordRoundTable
True
确实如此
Mathemaniac1080
ICE would deport him
移民及海关执法局会将他驱逐出境
S_T_P
hippie who openly hates capitalists
公开仇视资本家的嬉皮士
Aggravated assault and vandalism say that Jesus was no hippie.
恶性伤害与财产破坏表明耶稣绝非嬉皮士。
Saatvik_tyagi_
....What?
……啥？
WulfTheSaxon
And then everybody clapped?
然后全场鼓掌欢呼？
jellobowlshifter
And then everybody Hooah, sirred.
然后全场高呼“Hooah”并敬（纳粹）礼。
Dude_I_got_a_DWAVE
Sure gonna be weird for Hegseth when that doesn’t happen
对赫格塞斯来说，若未发生这般场景定会倍感诡异
throwaway12junk
Nobody should be surprised by any of this. 20 years ago Eric Prince had Blackwater use similar rhetoric to recruit mercenaries to fight in Iraq.
对此谁都不应该感到惊讶。20 年前，埃里克·普林斯就用类似的说辞，让黑水公司招募雇佣兵到伊拉克作战。
Erik Prince and the last crusade - The Economist
埃里克·普林斯与最后的十字军东征 - 《经济学人》
To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades. Mr. Prince operated his companies in a manner that encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life. For example, Mr. Prince's executives would openly speak about going over to Iraq to "lay Hajiis out on cardboard." Going to Iraq to shoot and kill Iraqis was viewed as a sport or game. Mr. Prince's employees openly and consistently used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as "ragheads" or "hajiis."
为此，普林斯先生有意向伊拉克部署了一些认同其基督教至上主义理念的人员，他清楚并希望这些人能利用一切机会杀害伊拉克人。这些人员中许多人使用基于十字军东征时期战士“圣殿骑士团”的呼号。普林斯先生以鼓励并奖赏夺去伊拉克人生命的方式运营其公司。例如，普林斯公司的高管曾公开谈论去伊拉克“把哈吉们摆在纸板上”。前往伊拉克射杀伊拉克人被视作一种运动或游戏。普林斯公司的员工长期公开使用针对伊拉克人及其他阿拉伯人的种族歧视和贬损性称呼，如“破布头”或“哈吉”。
WhatEntropyMeansToMe
Bush Jr said that he talked to God and God told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. This Christian zealotry isn't new, but it is getting engrained deeper and overtaking other more rational motivations.
小布什曾声称他与上帝对话，上帝指示他入侵阿富汗和伊拉克。这种基督教狂热并非新鲜事物，但正日益根深蒂固，并逐渐压倒其他更理性的决策动机。
Shit, during Trump 1 they moved the embassy to Jerusalem with Mike Pompeo explicitly connecting that to fulfilling the apocalyptic, end times prophecies that 1800s Americans started reading into the Bible and form the core of contemporary American Evangelical eschatology
见鬼，特朗普第一届任期内，他们将大使馆迁至耶路撒冷，迈克·蓬佩奥明确将此与实现末世预言联系起来——这些关于末日审判的预言源于 19 世纪美国人对《圣经》的穿凿附会，如今已成为当代美国福音派末世论的核心
BloodyPaleMoonlight
Relevant clip from Stephen King movie adaptation:
史蒂芬·金电影相关改编片段：
https://youtu.be/fNFVN0Jz0rE?si=AWxiEHRwC6jERKlP
peacefinder
Wow! Has this report been confirmed by an independent source?
哇！这份报告有其他独立消息源确认过吗？
I am assuming it has not been, since if this is true it should be a leading story on pretty much every news service.
我估计还没有，因为如果这是真的，它应该会成为几乎所有新闻服务的头条新闻。
Edit: I’ll take it a step further and assume this is disinformation unless confirmed. This would be absolutely unmissable by now in conventional media if confirmed true.
编辑：我要更进一步，除非得到证实，否则我认为这是虚假信息。如果证实是真的，传统媒体到现在不可能放过这样的新闻。
SkyMarshal
That was my first thought too, sounds like Russian troll farm disinfo/psyops until confirmed by a more reliable source.
这也是我的第一反应，听起来像是俄罗斯水军工厂的虚假信息/心理战术，除非有更可靠的来源证实。
That said, I could see Hegseth ordering something like this, but not sure the generals, majors, colonels, and captains actually running the war would comply. Most of them would probably just nod and agree, then go back to their units and conveniently forget.
话说回来，我能想象到赫格赛斯可能会下达这样的命令，但不确定实际指挥战争的将军、少校、上校和上尉们会真的执行。他们中的大多数人大概只会点头称是，然后回到自己的部队就“恰巧忘记”了。
Timely_Old_Man45
that’s not how this works meme here
这个表情包可不是用在这里的啊喂
It's kinda strange for Jesus to anoint an (allegedly) pedophile to do anything for him. But God works in mysterious ways, I suppose.
耶稣任命一个（据称是）恋童癖为他办事，听起来有点怪。但上帝行事自有其神秘的方式，我想。
jellobowlshifter
I thought the Antichrist was supposed to be handsome.
我还以为敌基督应该很英俊呢。
Zestyprotein
Not atrange in the Old Testament.
这在《旧约》里并不奇怪。
AdCool1638
Nebuchadnezzar, I suppose?
尼布甲尼撒，我猜？
WhatEntropyMeansToMe
Cyrus is, or at least was I haven't kept up, the comparison the real bible connected evangelicals made with Trump. A violent, non-believing ruler who is used by god to end the Babylonian Exile. That's more than enough for these types to grab onto and bend over backwards to make Trump fit a Biblical role.
居鲁士，至少以前是（我没一直关注），这是真正的福音派从圣经角度拿来与特朗普相提并论的对象。一个暴力、不信仰神的统治者，却被上帝用来结束巴比伦之囚。对这些人来说，这就足以让他们抓住不放，拼命要把特朗普塞进某个《圣经》角色里。
hfsh
Is it? Where does the bible give a single shit about consent?
是吗？圣经里什么时候在乎过同意不同意了？
Ecstatic_Bee6067
Narrow-minded words from those that will take no responsibility for the consequences
这种狭隘的言辞出自那些对后果毫无担当之人口中
tears_of_a_grad
I wonder what happens if a bearded, brown skinned Palestinian hippie who openly hates capitalists shows up to one of their meetings wearing a long white robe.
我在想，要是有个蓄胡子、棕色皮肤的巴勒斯坦嬉皮士，公开憎恨资本家，穿着白色长袍出现在他们的聚会上，会发生什么呢。
rubioburo
No need to wonder, they will send him to El Salvador surely.
毫无疑问，他们一定会把他遣送到萨尔瓦多。
gattboy1
He would probably make a good high school counselor in Colorado.
他或许能在科罗拉多州当个不错的高中辅导员。
DemonLordRoundTable
True
确实如此
Mathemaniac1080
ICE would deport him
移民及海关执法局会将他驱逐出境
S_T_P
hippie who openly hates capitalists
公开仇视资本家的嬉皮士
Aggravated assault and vandalism say that Jesus was no hippie.
恶性伤害与财产破坏表明耶稣绝非嬉皮士。
Saatvik_tyagi_
....What?
……啥？
WulfTheSaxon
And then everybody clapped?
然后全场鼓掌欢呼？
jellobowlshifter
And then everybody Hooah, sirred.
然后全场高呼“Hooah”并敬（纳粹）礼。
Dude_I_got_a_DWAVE
Sure gonna be weird for Hegseth when that doesn’t happen
对赫格塞斯来说，若未发生这般场景定会倍感诡异
throwaway12junk
Nobody should be surprised by any of this. 20 years ago Eric Prince had Blackwater use similar rhetoric to recruit mercenaries to fight in Iraq.
对此谁都不应该感到惊讶。20 年前，埃里克·普林斯就用类似的说辞，让黑水公司招募雇佣兵到伊拉克作战。
Erik Prince and the last crusade - The Economist
埃里克·普林斯与最后的十字军东征 - 《经济学人》
To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades. Mr. Prince operated his companies in a manner that encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life. For example, Mr. Prince's executives would openly speak about going over to Iraq to "lay Hajiis out on cardboard." Going to Iraq to shoot and kill Iraqis was viewed as a sport or game. Mr. Prince's employees openly and consistently used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as "ragheads" or "hajiis."
为此，普林斯先生有意向伊拉克部署了一些认同其基督教至上主义理念的人员，他清楚并希望这些人能利用一切机会杀害伊拉克人。这些人员中许多人使用基于十字军东征时期战士“圣殿骑士团”的呼号。普林斯先生以鼓励并奖赏夺去伊拉克人生命的方式运营其公司。例如，普林斯公司的高管曾公开谈论去伊拉克“把哈吉们摆在纸板上”。前往伊拉克射杀伊拉克人被视作一种运动或游戏。普林斯公司的员工长期公开使用针对伊拉克人及其他阿拉伯人的种族歧视和贬损性称呼，如“破布头”或“哈吉”。
WhatEntropyMeansToMe
Bush Jr said that he talked to God and God told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. This Christian zealotry isn't new, but it is getting engrained deeper and overtaking other more rational motivations.
小布什曾声称他与上帝对话，上帝指示他入侵阿富汗和伊拉克。这种基督教狂热并非新鲜事物，但正日益根深蒂固，并逐渐压倒其他更理性的决策动机。
Shit, during Trump 1 they moved the embassy to Jerusalem with Mike Pompeo explicitly connecting that to fulfilling the apocalyptic, end times prophecies that 1800s Americans started reading into the Bible and form the core of contemporary American Evangelical eschatology
见鬼，特朗普第一届任期内，他们将大使馆迁至耶路撒冷，迈克·蓬佩奥明确将此与实现末世预言联系起来——这些关于末日审判的预言源于 19 世纪美国人对《圣经》的穿凿附会，如今已成为当代美国福音派末世论的核心
BloodyPaleMoonlight
Relevant clip from Stephen King movie adaptation:
史蒂芬·金电影相关改编片段：
https://youtu.be/fNFVN0Jz0rE?si=AWxiEHRwC6jERKlP
peacefinder
Wow! Has this report been confirmed by an independent source?
哇！这份报告有其他独立消息源确认过吗？
I am assuming it has not been, since if this is true it should be a leading story on pretty much every news service.
我估计还没有，因为如果这是真的，它应该会成为几乎所有新闻服务的头条新闻。
Edit: I’ll take it a step further and assume this is disinformation unless confirmed. This would be absolutely unmissable by now in conventional media if confirmed true.
编辑：我要更进一步，除非得到证实，否则我认为这是虚假信息。如果证实是真的，传统媒体到现在不可能放过这样的新闻。
SkyMarshal
That was my first thought too, sounds like Russian troll farm disinfo/psyops until confirmed by a more reliable source.
这也是我的第一反应，听起来像是俄罗斯水军工厂的虚假信息/心理战术，除非有更可靠的来源证实。
That said, I could see Hegseth ordering something like this, but not sure the generals, majors, colonels, and captains actually running the war would comply. Most of them would probably just nod and agree, then go back to their units and conveniently forget.
话说回来，我能想象到赫格赛斯可能会下达这样的命令，但不确定实际指挥战争的将军、少校、上校和上尉们会真的执行。他们中的大多数人大概只会点头称是，然后回到自己的部队就“恰巧忘记”了。
Timely_Old_Man45
that’s not how this works meme here
这个表情包可不是用在这里的啊喂
