瑞典正在被移民摧毁吗?
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Is Sweden being destroyed by immigration?
瑞典正在被移民摧毁吗?
Is Sweden being destroyed by immigration?
瑞典正在被移民摧毁吗?
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从这张图上可以明显看出，瑞典已经成为西方世界的强奸之都之一，这是一种耻辱。 女权主义者对移民犯下的性侵犯和其他罪行视而不见。 众所周知，左翼忽视了这一点，但不幸的是，甚至像我们的瑞典自由党和像《Dagens Nyheter》以及《Svenska Dagbladet》这样的右翼报纸也视而不见。
瑞典议会中唯一试图改变现状的政党是瑞典民主党及其领导人Jimmie Akesson。
Jimmie不断受到骚扰，成为媒体诽谤活动的目标，甚至他的家人每天24小时都要保镖保护，因为他说真话而受到威胁。
所以，是的，瑞典正在被移民摧毁。但我们最大的敌人是政治正确。没有比“政治正确”文化更可怕的癌症了。
Even if, “worst” case scenario, a European country reaches a 50% Muslim population - let’s imagine France in 2110 - what of it? Muslims are not the Borg. Just as in Christianity, there are multiple flavors of “Muslim” on a continuum ranging from the lapsed, bacon eating, alcohol drinking, culturally Muslim atheist; to the hard core, misogyny embracing, prayer 5 times a day, Allah is totally awesome, fundamentalist. Thus, even a demographic of 50% will inevitably splinter across multiple political parties just like the rest of us.
Furthermore, my personal — and admittedly anecdotal experience — is that they are assimilated (Hah! I guess that makes us the Borg) fairly quickly; two teenage girls, Syrian refugees I met in 2014, are now almost as Swedish as my own daughter and both speak infuriatingly good Swedish — far better than my own hapless efforts despite living here for 17 years! Both have become independent, confident young women studying and living away from home.
即使是“最坏”的情况，一个欧洲国家的穆斯林人口达到50%——让我们想象一下2110年的法国——那又如何?穆斯林不是博格人（电影中的反派）。
就像在基督教中，有多种口味的“穆斯林”：从失落的、吃培根、喝酒和文化上的穆斯林无神论者；到彻头彻尾的厌恶女性，每天祈祷5次，真主是非常棒的原教旨主义者。因此，即使人口只有50%，也不可避免地会像我们其他人一样分裂成多个政党。
此外，从我的个人经历来看——是他们被同化了，而且相当快；我在2014年遇到的两个十几岁的叙利亚难民女孩，现在的瑞典语几乎和我女儿一样流利，而且她们的瑞典语都好得令人恼火。比我在这里生活了17年的不幸经历好多了！她们都已成为独立、自信的年轻女性，远离家乡学习和生活。
Christian Olof Emanuel Pavón
Yes and not even slowly. But the immigrants in itself are not the problem per se but the people we choose to give asylum constitutes the real issue here.
For example: The people on the Pictures are 9000 afghans who have never been properley identified. In their ranks they have already had rapists, and a person who tried to kill a police-officer for example. They were given asylum and they and other Groups are slowly disintergrating the society that was once a peaceful and happy country.
It is as you can see on this chart obvious that Sweden have become one of the rape-capitals of the Western World and that is a shame. The feminists look the other way when it comes to sexual assualts and other crimes commited by immigrants. The left is well known to ignore this unfortunatly but even the liberals in Sweden like our Liberal party and right-winged news-pappers like Dagens Nyheter& Svenska Dagbladet looks the other way.
The only party in the Swedish Parlament that is trying to change things is the Swedish democrats and their leader Jimmie Åkesson. Jimmie is being constantly harrased and a target of smear-campaigns by the media and it has even gone so far that his family is protected 24/7 by bodyguards due to all the threats he is receiving for his patos to speak the truth.
So yes Sweden is being destroyed by immigration. But our biggest foe is political correctness. There is no cancer more horrendous than PC-Culture.
是的，而且一点都不慢。但是移民并不是问题本身，我们选择给予庇护的人才是真正的问题。
在难民的队伍中，已经有强奸犯了，例如，有一个人试图杀死一名警察。他们得到了庇护，他们和其他团体正在慢慢瓦解这个曾经是和平和幸福的社会。
Yes and not even slowly. But the immigrants in itself are not the problem per se but the people we choose to give asylum constitutes the real issue here.
For example: The people on the Pictures are 9000 afghans who have never been properley identified. In their ranks they have already had rapists, and a person who tried to kill a police-officer for example. They were given asylum and they and other Groups are slowly disintergrating the society that was once a peaceful and happy country.
It is as you can see on this chart obvious that Sweden have become one of the rape-capitals of the Western World and that is a shame. The feminists look the other way when it comes to sexual assualts and other crimes commited by immigrants. The left is well known to ignore this unfortunatly but even the liberals in Sweden like our Liberal party and right-winged news-pappers like Dagens Nyheter& Svenska Dagbladet looks the other way.
The only party in the Swedish Parlament that is trying to change things is the Swedish democrats and their leader Jimmie Åkesson. Jimmie is being constantly harrased and a target of smear-campaigns by the media and it has even gone so far that his family is protected 24/7 by bodyguards due to all the threats he is receiving for his patos to speak the truth.
So yes Sweden is being destroyed by immigration. But our biggest foe is political correctness. There is no cancer more horrendous than PC-Culture.
是的，而且一点都不慢。但是移民并不是问题本身，我们选择给予庇护的人才是真正的问题。
在难民的队伍中，已经有强奸犯了，例如，有一个人试图杀死一名警察。他们得到了庇护，他们和其他团体正在慢慢瓦解这个曾经是和平和幸福的社会。
从这张图上可以明显看出，瑞典已经成为西方世界的强奸之都之一，这是一种耻辱。 女权主义者对移民犯下的性侵犯和其他罪行视而不见。 众所周知，左翼忽视了这一点，但不幸的是，甚至像我们的瑞典自由党和像《Dagens Nyheter》以及《Svenska Dagbladet》这样的右翼报纸也视而不见。
瑞典议会中唯一试图改变现状的政党是瑞典民主党及其领导人Jimmie Akesson。
Jimmie不断受到骚扰，成为媒体诽谤活动的目标，甚至他的家人每天24小时都要保镖保护，因为他说真话而受到威胁。
所以，是的，瑞典正在被移民摧毁。但我们最大的敌人是政治正确。没有比“政治正确”文化更可怕的癌症了。
Fredrik Johansson
What mass-immigration has led to is, among other things, a divided society.
There are still those who think immigration is great. And by immigration I don’t mean people from India and China with degrees. Those who defend immigration talk about how “Sweden needs educated people”.
Of course, Sweden benefits from educated immigrants and most Swedes don’t mind if people who come here are educated or at least hardworking.
In reality, nowadays, a large part of the immigrants to Sweden never get a job, and even the jobs they get are often hourly jobs, internships or rely on government subsidies.
You can also see this answer I wrote a few days ago that was just collapsed by Quora for “not being in English”: Fredrik Johansson's answer to How bad is the immigration problem in Sweden in terms of crime committed by immigrants and the ratio of immigrants to locals?
Whether or not Sweden gets destroyed remains to be seen, but we are now seeing the seeds of division. One part of Sweden is saying that immigration is great, that we need to save lives unless we are Nazis, and that we have to care about everyone in the world, while the other side is saying that we need to put Sweden first and ensure that we have a manageable economy.
大规模移民导致的结果之一就是社会分裂。
仍然有一些人认为移民是伟大的。我说的移民并不是指来自印度和中国的有学位的人。那些为移民辩护的人说“瑞典需要受过教育的人”。
当然，瑞典受益于受过良好教育的移民，而大多数瑞典人并不介意来这里的人是否受过教育或勤奋。
在现实中，如今来到瑞典的移民中，有很大一部分人根本没有工作，即使是他们得到的工作，也往往是小时工、实习生或依靠政府补贴。
你也可以看看我几天前写的这个答案，它被Quora因为“不符合英语”而隐藏了：《从移民犯罪和移民与当地人口的比例来看，瑞典的移民问题有多严重?》
瑞典是否会被摧毁还有待观察，但我们现在看到了分裂的种子。瑞典的一部分人说移民是好事，我们需要拯救生命，除非我们是纳粹，我们必须关心世界上的每个人，而另一方却说我们需要把瑞典放在首位，确保我们有一个可控的经济。
What mass-immigration has led to is, among other things, a divided society.
There are still those who think immigration is great. And by immigration I don’t mean people from India and China with degrees. Those who defend immigration talk about how “Sweden needs educated people”.
Of course, Sweden benefits from educated immigrants and most Swedes don’t mind if people who come here are educated or at least hardworking.
In reality, nowadays, a large part of the immigrants to Sweden never get a job, and even the jobs they get are often hourly jobs, internships or rely on government subsidies.
You can also see this answer I wrote a few days ago that was just collapsed by Quora for “not being in English”: Fredrik Johansson's answer to How bad is the immigration problem in Sweden in terms of crime committed by immigrants and the ratio of immigrants to locals?
Whether or not Sweden gets destroyed remains to be seen, but we are now seeing the seeds of division. One part of Sweden is saying that immigration is great, that we need to save lives unless we are Nazis, and that we have to care about everyone in the world, while the other side is saying that we need to put Sweden first and ensure that we have a manageable economy.
大规模移民导致的结果之一就是社会分裂。
仍然有一些人认为移民是伟大的。我说的移民并不是指来自印度和中国的有学位的人。那些为移民辩护的人说“瑞典需要受过教育的人”。
当然，瑞典受益于受过良好教育的移民，而大多数瑞典人并不介意来这里的人是否受过教育或勤奋。
在现实中，如今来到瑞典的移民中，有很大一部分人根本没有工作，即使是他们得到的工作，也往往是小时工、实习生或依靠政府补贴。
你也可以看看我几天前写的这个答案，它被Quora因为“不符合英语”而隐藏了：《从移民犯罪和移民与当地人口的比例来看，瑞典的移民问题有多严重?》
瑞典是否会被摧毁还有待观察，但我们现在看到了分裂的种子。瑞典的一部分人说移民是好事，我们需要拯救生命，除非我们是纳粹，我们必须关心世界上的每个人，而另一方却说我们需要把瑞典放在首位，确保我们有一个可控的经济。
In that regard, “the old Sweden” is dead. The Sweden where women felt safe and where we were paying taxes to help ourselves — our children, our elderly, our disabled — and not to benefit people who come here from the other side of the world to live a comfortable life in unemployment with their extended family.
While one part of Sweden celebrates the new multicultural and diverse New Sweden, where we can eat falafel, the other part of Sweden is missing the Old Sweden that we remember from the Astrid Lindgren films. Somehow the sun was always shining and everyone was seemingly nice to one another. Even the criminals were reasonable people deep down.
These days the news are filled with one horrendous crime after another. Gang rapes are commonplace and several times a week we can read about immigration related rapes.
So, one part of Sweden celebrates falafel and that we have dark-skinned people, while the other side is primarily concerned about being shot at, blown up or sexually assaulted.
One of the sides is still promoting open borders, while the other side want borders closed ASAP and repatriation of those who do not contribute to society.
The first side are humanitarians who believe in saving the whole world, no matter what the costs are. The other side believes in saving Sweden, even if it means that some people need to be sent home.
在这方面，“旧瑞典”已不复存在。在瑞典，妇女们感到安全，我们纳税是为了帮助我们自己——我们的孩子，我们的老人，我们的残疾人——而不是为了帮助那些从世界另一端来到这里的人，让他们在失业中与大家庭一起过着舒适的生活。
瑞典的一部分人在庆祝新的、多元文化和多样化的新瑞典，在那里我们可以吃沙拉三明治，而瑞典的另一部分人在怀念我们从阿斯特丽德·林德格伦电影中记得的旧瑞典。不知何故，阳光总是灿烂的，每个人似乎都对彼此很好。即使是罪犯在内心深处也是通情达理的人。
这些天的新闻充斥着一个又一个可怕的罪行。轮奸司空见惯，每周我们都能读到好几次与移民相关的强奸案。
所以，瑞典的一部分人庆祝沙拉三明治，庆祝我们有深色皮肤的人，而另一部分人则担心被枪击、炸弹或性侵犯。其中一方仍在推动开放边境，而另一方则希望尽快关闭边境，遣返那些对社会没有贡献的人。
前者是人道主义者，他们相信拯救整个世界，无论代价是什么。后者相信拯救瑞典，即使这意味着一些人需要被送回家。
While one part of Sweden celebrates the new multicultural and diverse New Sweden, where we can eat falafel, the other part of Sweden is missing the Old Sweden that we remember from the Astrid Lindgren films. Somehow the sun was always shining and everyone was seemingly nice to one another. Even the criminals were reasonable people deep down.
These days the news are filled with one horrendous crime after another. Gang rapes are commonplace and several times a week we can read about immigration related rapes.
So, one part of Sweden celebrates falafel and that we have dark-skinned people, while the other side is primarily concerned about being shot at, blown up or sexually assaulted.
One of the sides is still promoting open borders, while the other side want borders closed ASAP and repatriation of those who do not contribute to society.
The first side are humanitarians who believe in saving the whole world, no matter what the costs are. The other side believes in saving Sweden, even if it means that some people need to be sent home.
在这方面，“旧瑞典”已不复存在。在瑞典，妇女们感到安全，我们纳税是为了帮助我们自己——我们的孩子，我们的老人，我们的残疾人——而不是为了帮助那些从世界另一端来到这里的人，让他们在失业中与大家庭一起过着舒适的生活。
瑞典的一部分人在庆祝新的、多元文化和多样化的新瑞典，在那里我们可以吃沙拉三明治，而瑞典的另一部分人在怀念我们从阿斯特丽德·林德格伦电影中记得的旧瑞典。不知何故，阳光总是灿烂的，每个人似乎都对彼此很好。即使是罪犯在内心深处也是通情达理的人。
这些天的新闻充斥着一个又一个可怕的罪行。轮奸司空见惯，每周我们都能读到好几次与移民相关的强奸案。
所以，瑞典的一部分人庆祝沙拉三明治，庆祝我们有深色皮肤的人，而另一部分人则担心被枪击、炸弹或性侵犯。其中一方仍在推动开放边境，而另一方则希望尽快关闭边境，遣返那些对社会没有贡献的人。
前者是人道主义者，他们相信拯救整个世界，无论代价是什么。后者相信拯救瑞典，即使这意味着一些人需要被送回家。
One glaring case is what to do with the many so called unaccompanied minors that came here from Iran and Afghanistan in 2015. Their families sent them here as anchor children and the threat of sending them back makes many of them severely depressed and suicidal. Their Swedish foster parents (usually middle-aged women) are very engaged in the media about letting the young men stay.
Most of the minors are in reality young men, which is apparent in many ways, but because we have this division in Sweden, the humanitarians have made it a taboo subject to criticize the age of the so-called children.
A government sponsored report even said that “the word ‘children’ in quotation marks is an example of hate speech in social media”. [1]
Basically, Sweden is being divided between humanitarians and haters.
In this mess, the public Swedish television, that everyone with a TV is required to pay around $150 a year to finance, has interpreted its TV license to say that they must defend “everyone’s equal value”. In turn, they see themselves as siding with humanitarians and not haters and are regularly publishing sob stories about the “children”, while the alternative media is publishing stories about how many of the “children” are convicted for all sorts of crime, including rape and drug abuse; furthermore it is often revealed that they are not actual children, or that the middle aged women who take care of them have sexual relationships with them (as shown by court cases).
一个引人注目的案例是，如何处理2015年从伊朗和阿富汗来到这里的许多所谓的无人陪伴的未成年人。他们的家人把他们作为靠山送到这里，而送他们回来的威胁使他们中的许多人严重抑郁和自杀。他们的瑞典养父母(通常是中年女性)热衷于在媒体上宣扬让这些年轻男子留下。
事实上，大多数未成年人都是年轻男性，这在很多方面都很明显，但由于瑞典存在这种分歧，人道主义者已经把批评所谓儿童的年龄作为一个禁忌话题。一份政府赞助的报告甚至称，“带引号的‘孩子’一词是社交媒体上仇恨言论的一个例子”。
基本上，瑞典分为人道主义者和仇恨者。
在这种混乱中，每个拥有电视机的人每年都需要支付大约150美元的资金，瑞典的公共电视台将其电视许可证解释为他们必须捍卫“人人平等”。 反过来，他们认为自己站在人道主义者一边，而不是仇恨者一边，并经常发表关于“儿童”的悲伤故事，而其他媒体则发表关于有多少“儿童”被判犯有各种罪行的故事，包括强奸和滥用毒品; 此外，他们往往不是真正的孩子，时有与照顾他们的中年妇女发生性关系(如法庭案件所示)。
Most of the minors are in reality young men, which is apparent in many ways, but because we have this division in Sweden, the humanitarians have made it a taboo subject to criticize the age of the so-called children.
A government sponsored report even said that “the word ‘children’ in quotation marks is an example of hate speech in social media”. [1]
Basically, Sweden is being divided between humanitarians and haters.
In this mess, the public Swedish television, that everyone with a TV is required to pay around $150 a year to finance, has interpreted its TV license to say that they must defend “everyone’s equal value”. In turn, they see themselves as siding with humanitarians and not haters and are regularly publishing sob stories about the “children”, while the alternative media is publishing stories about how many of the “children” are convicted for all sorts of crime, including rape and drug abuse; furthermore it is often revealed that they are not actual children, or that the middle aged women who take care of them have sexual relationships with them (as shown by court cases).
一个引人注目的案例是，如何处理2015年从伊朗和阿富汗来到这里的许多所谓的无人陪伴的未成年人。他们的家人把他们作为靠山送到这里，而送他们回来的威胁使他们中的许多人严重抑郁和自杀。他们的瑞典养父母(通常是中年女性)热衷于在媒体上宣扬让这些年轻男子留下。
事实上，大多数未成年人都是年轻男性，这在很多方面都很明显，但由于瑞典存在这种分歧，人道主义者已经把批评所谓儿童的年龄作为一个禁忌话题。一份政府赞助的报告甚至称，“带引号的‘孩子’一词是社交媒体上仇恨言论的一个例子”。
基本上，瑞典分为人道主义者和仇恨者。
在这种混乱中，每个拥有电视机的人每年都需要支付大约150美元的资金，瑞典的公共电视台将其电视许可证解释为他们必须捍卫“人人平等”。 反过来，他们认为自己站在人道主义者一边，而不是仇恨者一边，并经常发表关于“儿童”的悲伤故事，而其他媒体则发表关于有多少“儿童”被判犯有各种罪行的故事，包括强奸和滥用毒品; 此外，他们往往不是真正的孩子，时有与照顾他们的中年妇女发生性关系(如法庭案件所示)。
It seems that Sweden is developing the same kind of division that we can see in the US and the UK. Anyone who questions why we should put young men from the other side of the world ahead of our own population will be permanently seen as haters.
The division between humanitarians and haters permeates everything. When talking about the increase in rape, one side will blame it on immigration while the other side blames it on the global patriarchy.
When talking about the housing shortage, one side blames it on immigrants, while the other blames the government for not building enough.
One side asks why we spend 10% on our government budget on immigration when our healthcare system is falling apart, while the other side says that human lives have no cost.
In between these groups there are the immigrants who do not integrate into society. Both the humanitarians and the haters see it as a problem, but the humanitarians think it will be solved if we are nicer to the immigrants and we become less racist, while the haters don’t see any solution to the problem other than closing the borders and hope that the problems can be solved in the long term. The haters also want to enforce strict rules in the ghetto areas, including calling in the military and giving the police more force, while the humanitarians think that the immigrants who live there are misunderstood and feel discriminated, and that we need to show them more compassion in order for them to integrate.
瑞典似乎正在发展与我们在美国和英国看到的同样的分裂。任何质疑我们为什么要把来自世界另一端的年轻人置于我们本国人口之上的人，都将永远被视为仇恨者。人道主义者和仇恨者之间的分歧无处不在。当谈到强奸案的增加时，一方将其归咎于移民，而另一方则将其归咎于全球父权制。当谈到住房短缺时，一方将其归咎于移民，而另一方则将其归咎于政府建设不足。
一方质疑，既然我们的医疗体系正在分崩离析，为什么我们还要把政府预算的10%花在移民上?另一方则说，人的生命是无价的。
在这些群体之间，有一些移民无法融入社会。人道主义者和仇恨者都认为这是一个问题，但人道主义者认为，如果我们对移民更好一些，我们不那么种族主义，问题就会得到解决，而仇恨者看不到任何解决问题的办法，除了关闭边界，并希望如此一来问题可以长期解决。
仇恨者还想在贫民区执行严格的规定，包括召集军队，给警察更多的力量，而人道主义者认为居住在那里的移民被误解，感到歧视，我们需要向他们展示更多的同情心，让他们融入社会。
The division between humanitarians and haters permeates everything. When talking about the increase in rape, one side will blame it on immigration while the other side blames it on the global patriarchy.
When talking about the housing shortage, one side blames it on immigrants, while the other blames the government for not building enough.
One side asks why we spend 10% on our government budget on immigration when our healthcare system is falling apart, while the other side says that human lives have no cost.
In between these groups there are the immigrants who do not integrate into society. Both the humanitarians and the haters see it as a problem, but the humanitarians think it will be solved if we are nicer to the immigrants and we become less racist, while the haters don’t see any solution to the problem other than closing the borders and hope that the problems can be solved in the long term. The haters also want to enforce strict rules in the ghetto areas, including calling in the military and giving the police more force, while the humanitarians think that the immigrants who live there are misunderstood and feel discriminated, and that we need to show them more compassion in order for them to integrate.
瑞典似乎正在发展与我们在美国和英国看到的同样的分裂。任何质疑我们为什么要把来自世界另一端的年轻人置于我们本国人口之上的人，都将永远被视为仇恨者。人道主义者和仇恨者之间的分歧无处不在。当谈到强奸案的增加时，一方将其归咎于移民，而另一方则将其归咎于全球父权制。当谈到住房短缺时，一方将其归咎于移民，而另一方则将其归咎于政府建设不足。
一方质疑，既然我们的医疗体系正在分崩离析，为什么我们还要把政府预算的10%花在移民上?另一方则说，人的生命是无价的。
在这些群体之间，有一些移民无法融入社会。人道主义者和仇恨者都认为这是一个问题，但人道主义者认为，如果我们对移民更好一些，我们不那么种族主义，问题就会得到解决，而仇恨者看不到任何解决问题的办法，除了关闭边界，并希望如此一来问题可以长期解决。
仇恨者还想在贫民区执行严格的规定，包括召集军队，给警察更多的力量，而人道主义者认为居住在那里的移民被误解，感到歧视，我们需要向他们展示更多的同情心，让他们融入社会。
All the while, the problems are escalating. Deadly shootings in Sweden have increased fivefold in ten years. (from 9 to 45)
What you are seeing is that one half of Sweden sees the humanitarians as the problem, while the other half sees the haters as the problem.
The haters are conservative and nostalgic about The Old Sweden where things seemed to be working. Now, many haters don’t want to pay taxes or are planning to move abroad because they see the situation as going in the wrong direction and the media as doing a cover-up.
On the other side, the humanitarians point to friends they have who came to Sweden and became successful. These success stories are heavily promoted in the media and can easily make a person a celebrity over night.
The alternative media is equally gleeful when it turns out that one of the humanitarians gets convicted of a crime, is harassing women or for other reasons is a nasty person.
The humanitarians receive a lot of hatred. Every newspaper in Sweden had to shut down their comment section due to “hate” — mainly immigration criticism. Journalists report that they can’t write an article about the nationalistic Sweden Democratic party without receiving lots of hate mail and threats. They are trying to find ways to avoid the haters, which includes distancing themselves from the Swedish Democratic voters and supporters who are now believed to be around 20% of the population. This shunning is upsetting the Sweden Democratic supporters more.
一直以来，问题都在升级。瑞典的致命枪击事件在十年内增加了五倍。(由9至45)
你看到的是，一半的瑞典人认为人道主义者是问题，而另一半人认为仇恨者是问题。
仇恨者是保守的，他们怀念过去的瑞典，在那时一切似乎都很顺利。现在，许多仇恨者不想纳税或计划移居国外，因为他们认为形势朝着错误的方向发展，而媒体在掩盖事实。另一方面，人道主义人士指出，他们有朋友来到瑞典并取得了成功。这些成功的故事被媒体大肆宣传，很容易让一个人一夜之间成为名人。
当其中一名人道主义者被判有罪、骚扰女性或出于其他原因是一个令人讨厌的人时，其他媒体也同样高兴。
人道主义者受到很多仇恨。由于“仇恨”——主要是移民批评——瑞典的每家报纸都不得不关闭了他们的评论区。……他们正试图找到避开仇恨者的方法，其中包括与瑞典民主党选民和支持者保持距离，据信这些选民和支持者目前占瑞典人口的20%左右。这种回避更让瑞典民主党的支持者感到不安。
What you are seeing is that one half of Sweden sees the humanitarians as the problem, while the other half sees the haters as the problem.
The haters are conservative and nostalgic about The Old Sweden where things seemed to be working. Now, many haters don’t want to pay taxes or are planning to move abroad because they see the situation as going in the wrong direction and the media as doing a cover-up.
On the other side, the humanitarians point to friends they have who came to Sweden and became successful. These success stories are heavily promoted in the media and can easily make a person a celebrity over night.
The alternative media is equally gleeful when it turns out that one of the humanitarians gets convicted of a crime, is harassing women or for other reasons is a nasty person.
The humanitarians receive a lot of hatred. Every newspaper in Sweden had to shut down their comment section due to “hate” — mainly immigration criticism. Journalists report that they can’t write an article about the nationalistic Sweden Democratic party without receiving lots of hate mail and threats. They are trying to find ways to avoid the haters, which includes distancing themselves from the Swedish Democratic voters and supporters who are now believed to be around 20% of the population. This shunning is upsetting the Sweden Democratic supporters more.
一直以来，问题都在升级。瑞典的致命枪击事件在十年内增加了五倍。(由9至45)
你看到的是，一半的瑞典人认为人道主义者是问题，而另一半人认为仇恨者是问题。
仇恨者是保守的，他们怀念过去的瑞典，在那时一切似乎都很顺利。现在，许多仇恨者不想纳税或计划移居国外，因为他们认为形势朝着错误的方向发展，而媒体在掩盖事实。另一方面，人道主义人士指出，他们有朋友来到瑞典并取得了成功。这些成功的故事被媒体大肆宣传，很容易让一个人一夜之间成为名人。
当其中一名人道主义者被判有罪、骚扰女性或出于其他原因是一个令人讨厌的人时，其他媒体也同样高兴。
人道主义者受到很多仇恨。由于“仇恨”——主要是移民批评——瑞典的每家报纸都不得不关闭了他们的评论区。……他们正试图找到避开仇恨者的方法，其中包括与瑞典民主党选民和支持者保持距离，据信这些选民和支持者目前占瑞典人口的20%左右。这种回避更让瑞典民主党的支持者感到不安。
Virtually every day there are articles in mainstream published about “the need to fight hatred”. “how to combat hatred in social media” or “how to combat fake news”, “how to do politics without involving the Sweden Democrats”, “how alternative media is sponsored by Putin trolls” or similar.
I have heard some haters say that the times are actually quite exciting now. Swedes who use to just go happily along with everything are now starting to show some fighting spirit.
The humanitarians are also mobilizing. They have groups such as #Jagärhär (I am here) a mod that floods facebook pages with loving oneliners.
几乎每天主流媒体都有文章发表“有必要与仇恨作斗争”。“如何在社交媒体上打击仇恨”或“如何打击假新闻”，“如何在不涉及瑞典民主党的情况下进行政治运作”，“另类媒体是如何得到普京（赞助的）喷子的支持”或类似内容。
我听一些仇恨者说，现在的时代实际上相当令人兴奋。过去总是随遇而安的瑞典人现在开始表现出一些斗志。人道主义者也在动员。他们有像#Jagärhär(我在这里)这样的小组，一个在facebook页面上充满了爱的单身人士。
I have heard some haters say that the times are actually quite exciting now. Swedes who use to just go happily along with everything are now starting to show some fighting spirit.
The humanitarians are also mobilizing. They have groups such as #Jagärhär (I am here) a mod that floods facebook pages with loving oneliners.
几乎每天主流媒体都有文章发表“有必要与仇恨作斗争”。“如何在社交媒体上打击仇恨”或“如何打击假新闻”，“如何在不涉及瑞典民主党的情况下进行政治运作”，“另类媒体是如何得到普京（赞助的）喷子的支持”或类似内容。
我听一些仇恨者说，现在的时代实际上相当令人兴奋。过去总是随遇而安的瑞典人现在开始表现出一些斗志。人道主义者也在动员。他们有像#Jagärhär(我在这里)这样的小组，一个在facebook页面上充满了爱的单身人士。
The group has close ties with mainstream media, which is controversial among the haters.
Well, one thing is for sure: the Old Sweden is destroyed and we will never go back to being like in the Astrid Lindgren films. Those who support multiculturalism see it as a good and unavoidable progress, while others are sad and sorry to see that the things Sweden was known for are gone, and those who mourn about it are silenced.
Clarification: Sweden was never as in the Lindgren films (Seacrow Island, Pippi Longstocking, etc). It is merely a nostalgic image people have in their minds of an idyllic Sweden.
Please note: The word “hater” does not indicate that they are evil. I simply chose that word for this answer.
Check some of the other answers to this question and it will confirm my answer.
该组织与主流媒体关系密切，这在仇恨者中引起了争议。
有一件事是肯定的:旧瑞典被摧毁了，我们再也不会回到阿斯特丽德·林德格伦电影里的样子了。那些支持多元文化主义的人认为这是一个好的、不可避免的进步，而另一些人则为众所周知的那个瑞典的消逝感到难过和抱歉，不过这些哀悼被屏蔽掉了。
澄清:瑞典从来没有像林德格伦的电影(海岛，长袜子皮皮等)一般。这只是人们在脑海中对田园瑞典的一种怀旧的印象。
请注意：“仇恨者”这个词并不表示他们是邪恶的。我只是选择了这个词作为答案。
Well, one thing is for sure: the Old Sweden is destroyed and we will never go back to being like in the Astrid Lindgren films. Those who support multiculturalism see it as a good and unavoidable progress, while others are sad and sorry to see that the things Sweden was known for are gone, and those who mourn about it are silenced.
Clarification: Sweden was never as in the Lindgren films (Seacrow Island, Pippi Longstocking, etc). It is merely a nostalgic image people have in their minds of an idyllic Sweden.
Please note: The word “hater” does not indicate that they are evil. I simply chose that word for this answer.
Check some of the other answers to this question and it will confirm my answer.
该组织与主流媒体关系密切，这在仇恨者中引起了争议。
有一件事是肯定的:旧瑞典被摧毁了，我们再也不会回到阿斯特丽德·林德格伦电影里的样子了。那些支持多元文化主义的人认为这是一个好的、不可避免的进步，而另一些人则为众所周知的那个瑞典的消逝感到难过和抱歉，不过这些哀悼被屏蔽掉了。
澄清:瑞典从来没有像林德格伦的电影(海岛，长袜子皮皮等)一般。这只是人们在脑海中对田园瑞典的一种怀旧的印象。
请注意：“仇恨者”这个词并不表示他们是邪恶的。我只是选择了这个词作为答案。
Igor Rouzine
Let us think:
There are 8.1% of Muslim immigrants in Sweden according to Pew Research or twice as much by some other sources.
Average number of kids per woman for Muslims in Sweden is 2.8, very close to the number everywhere, and for (atheist) Europeans 1.6. It is estimated that, under a medium migration scenario, Sweden will be 20% Muslim by 2050. City Malmö located at the border with Denmark, now notorious for its gang violence, will be mostly Muslim.
But how much can this sub-population contribute to the work force? In the statistical sense, for a large group of people, IQ is a good predictor of achievement (see the plots at the bottom). For example, average IQ in Syria is 83, against Swedish 100. Please note that IQ variation is heritable by 53%-73% and that the genetic part cannot be changed during lifetime. Remaining 47–27% of the IQ gap is due to upbringing/environment, and that can be decreased if a migrant abandons his system of values and his lifestyle and is raised as a Protestant-tradition Swede, which they mostly refuse, since most of them prefer their religion and ethics which goes with it. That alone makes them untrainable for most professions in Sweden. You need IQ >115 to even get to college, IQ > mean+2.2*std, and 96% of Muslims in Sweden are below this value.
The 2nd most popular baby boy name in Gothenburg is Mohamed. This choice reflects the number of Muslims in that city and their lack of desire to integrate. They love Mohamed and Swedish money much more than Sweden.
In Western Europe, many people even in the third generation of new Muslims do not integrate well. Note that this is not the case in Russia, due to the reasons beyond the scope of this answer.
When people cannot fit, and come from the religion that tells them that they are superior beings, they resort to crime.
Despite of these depressing facts, I do not think that Sweden will ever become a second Syria — nor most Muslims will ever integrate. No multicultural paradise will arrive, but Sweden will not lose its identity.
Why do I think so?
The likely scenario is, as follows. Social tensions and the cost of this “social experiment” will continue to increase, as the population of Muslims grows. A right-wing nationalist Conservative movement led by Swedish Democrats will continue its rise to prominence.
UP: 503
让我们思考一下：
1. 根据皮尤研究中心的数据，瑞典有8.1%的穆斯林移民，其他来源声称是这个数据的两倍。
2. 瑞典穆斯林妇女平均生育2.8个孩子，非常接近世界水平，而(无神论者)欧洲妇女平均生育1.6个孩子。据估计，在中等移民情况下，到2050年，瑞典将有20%的穆斯林。位于丹麦边境上的瑞典城市Malmo市，现在因帮派暴力而臭名昭著，主体似乎就是穆斯林。
3. 但是这个小群体对劳动力的贡献是多少呢?从统计学意义上讲，对于很多人来说，智商是成就的一个很好的预测指标(见下图)。例如，叙利亚人的平均智商是83，而瑞典人是100。请注意，智商变异有53%-73%是可遗传的，遗传部分在一生中不能改变。剩下的47-27%的智商差距是由教养/环境造成的，如果一个移民放弃他的价值体系和生活方式，并被培养成一个新教传统的瑞典人，这一差距可以减少，但他们大多会拒绝，因为他们更喜欢与之相匹配的宗教和伦理。单单这一点就使得他们无法胜任瑞典的大多数职业。你需要智商>115才能上大学，智商>平均值+2.2*std, 96%的瑞典穆斯林低于这个值。
4. 哥德堡第二受欢迎的男孩名字是穆罕默德。这一选择反映了该城市穆斯林的数量，以及他们缺乏融入社会的愿望。比起瑞典，他们更喜欢穆罕默德和瑞典的钱。
5. 在西欧，很多人即使是第三代新穆斯林也不能很好地融入社会。请注意，俄罗斯的情况并非如此，原因超出了本答案的范围。
6. 当人们不能适应，而他们的宗教告诉他们自己是优越的人，他们就诉诸犯罪。
尽管有这些令人沮丧的事实，我不认为瑞典会成为第二个叙利亚。大多数穆斯林不会融合。多元文化天堂不会到来，但瑞典不会失去它的身份。
我为什么这么认为？
可能的情况如下。随着穆斯林人口的增长，社会紧张局势和这种“社会实验”的成本将继续增加。由瑞典民主党领导的右翼民族主义保守运动将继续崛起。
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Let us think:
There are 8.1% of Muslim immigrants in Sweden according to Pew Research or twice as much by some other sources.
Average number of kids per woman for Muslims in Sweden is 2.8, very close to the number everywhere, and for (atheist) Europeans 1.6. It is estimated that, under a medium migration scenario, Sweden will be 20% Muslim by 2050. City Malmö located at the border with Denmark, now notorious for its gang violence, will be mostly Muslim.
But how much can this sub-population contribute to the work force? In the statistical sense, for a large group of people, IQ is a good predictor of achievement (see the plots at the bottom). For example, average IQ in Syria is 83, against Swedish 100. Please note that IQ variation is heritable by 53%-73% and that the genetic part cannot be changed during lifetime. Remaining 47–27% of the IQ gap is due to upbringing/environment, and that can be decreased if a migrant abandons his system of values and his lifestyle and is raised as a Protestant-tradition Swede, which they mostly refuse, since most of them prefer their religion and ethics which goes with it. That alone makes them untrainable for most professions in Sweden. You need IQ >115 to even get to college, IQ > mean+2.2*std, and 96% of Muslims in Sweden are below this value.
The 2nd most popular baby boy name in Gothenburg is Mohamed. This choice reflects the number of Muslims in that city and their lack of desire to integrate. They love Mohamed and Swedish money much more than Sweden.
In Western Europe, many people even in the third generation of new Muslims do not integrate well. Note that this is not the case in Russia, due to the reasons beyond the scope of this answer.
When people cannot fit, and come from the religion that tells them that they are superior beings, they resort to crime.
Despite of these depressing facts, I do not think that Sweden will ever become a second Syria — nor most Muslims will ever integrate. No multicultural paradise will arrive, but Sweden will not lose its identity.
Why do I think so?
The likely scenario is, as follows. Social tensions and the cost of this “social experiment” will continue to increase, as the population of Muslims grows. A right-wing nationalist Conservative movement led by Swedish Democrats will continue its rise to prominence.
UP: 503
让我们思考一下：
1. 根据皮尤研究中心的数据，瑞典有8.1%的穆斯林移民，其他来源声称是这个数据的两倍。
2. 瑞典穆斯林妇女平均生育2.8个孩子，非常接近世界水平，而(无神论者)欧洲妇女平均生育1.6个孩子。据估计，在中等移民情况下，到2050年，瑞典将有20%的穆斯林。位于丹麦边境上的瑞典城市Malmo市，现在因帮派暴力而臭名昭著，主体似乎就是穆斯林。
3. 但是这个小群体对劳动力的贡献是多少呢?从统计学意义上讲，对于很多人来说，智商是成就的一个很好的预测指标(见下图)。例如，叙利亚人的平均智商是83，而瑞典人是100。请注意，智商变异有53%-73%是可遗传的，遗传部分在一生中不能改变。剩下的47-27%的智商差距是由教养/环境造成的，如果一个移民放弃他的价值体系和生活方式，并被培养成一个新教传统的瑞典人，这一差距可以减少，但他们大多会拒绝，因为他们更喜欢与之相匹配的宗教和伦理。单单这一点就使得他们无法胜任瑞典的大多数职业。你需要智商>115才能上大学，智商>平均值+2.2*std, 96%的瑞典穆斯林低于这个值。
4. 哥德堡第二受欢迎的男孩名字是穆罕默德。这一选择反映了该城市穆斯林的数量，以及他们缺乏融入社会的愿望。比起瑞典，他们更喜欢穆罕默德和瑞典的钱。
5. 在西欧，很多人即使是第三代新穆斯林也不能很好地融入社会。请注意，俄罗斯的情况并非如此，原因超出了本答案的范围。
6. 当人们不能适应，而他们的宗教告诉他们自己是优越的人，他们就诉诸犯罪。
尽管有这些令人沮丧的事实，我不认为瑞典会成为第二个叙利亚。大多数穆斯林不会融合。多元文化天堂不会到来，但瑞典不会失去它的身份。
我为什么这么认为？
可能的情况如下。随着穆斯林人口的增长，社会紧张局势和这种“社会实验”的成本将继续增加。由瑞典民主党领导的右翼民族主义保守运动将继续崛起。
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They will eventually come to power in the government and enter a majority coalition in Parliament. After that, they will limit the now-existing welfare privileges for the newcomers and publish their staggering police statistics. Without the present support, the low-skill group will have no choice but gradually repatriate, except for the 4% of gifted individuals who have assimilated well.
It seems, the key to any successful immigration is maintaining a slow pace and individual sextion of immigrants based on the need of the country, i.e., sextion by merit: attitude, skills, ideology, and culture. This is not how immigrants from Asia are sexted at the moment. Sadly, mass migration is ideologically and economically motivated, partly by greed and desire to get cheap obedient workforce, and partly by the ongoing battle of the Left globalists against the freedom-loving middle class.
In the future, only the countries defeating the globalist dystopia and protecting their borders and culture will continue to prosper, the others will descend into decay, tyranny and chaos.
Disclaimer: As you can see from these plots, IQ distribution is useful for predicting success for large groups of people. For individuals, due to dispersion, SAT scores and the equivalent are much more accurate predictors.
他们最终将在政府掌权，并在议会中加入多数党联盟。在那之后，他们将限制新来者现有的福利特权，并公布惊人的警方统计数据。如果没有目前的支持，低技能群体将别无选择，只能逐渐回国，只有4%的、有天赋的、同化得很好的人（能留下来）。
看来，任何成功移民的关键，都是保持缓慢的步伐，并根据国家的需要对移民进行个人选择，即择优选择:态度、技能、意识形态、文化。这不是现在选择亚洲移民的方式。可悲的是，大规模移民是由意识形态和经济驱动的，部分是由于贪婪和对获得廉价顺从劳动力的渴望，部分是由于左翼全球主义者与热爱自由的中产阶级的持续斗争。
在未来，只有打败全球主义的反乌托邦并保护自己的边界和文化的国家才会继续繁荣，其他国家会陷入衰退、暴政和混乱。
免责声明:智商分布对于预测大群体的成功是有用的。对于个人来说，由于分散性，SAT（学业能力倾向测验）分数和对等物是更准确的预测指标。
It seems, the key to any successful immigration is maintaining a slow pace and individual sextion of immigrants based on the need of the country, i.e., sextion by merit: attitude, skills, ideology, and culture. This is not how immigrants from Asia are sexted at the moment. Sadly, mass migration is ideologically and economically motivated, partly by greed and desire to get cheap obedient workforce, and partly by the ongoing battle of the Left globalists against the freedom-loving middle class.
In the future, only the countries defeating the globalist dystopia and protecting their borders and culture will continue to prosper, the others will descend into decay, tyranny and chaos.
Disclaimer: As you can see from these plots, IQ distribution is useful for predicting success for large groups of people. For individuals, due to dispersion, SAT scores and the equivalent are much more accurate predictors.
他们最终将在政府掌权，并在议会中加入多数党联盟。在那之后，他们将限制新来者现有的福利特权，并公布惊人的警方统计数据。如果没有目前的支持，低技能群体将别无选择，只能逐渐回国，只有4%的、有天赋的、同化得很好的人（能留下来）。
看来，任何成功移民的关键，都是保持缓慢的步伐，并根据国家的需要对移民进行个人选择，即择优选择:态度、技能、意识形态、文化。这不是现在选择亚洲移民的方式。可悲的是，大规模移民是由意识形态和经济驱动的，部分是由于贪婪和对获得廉价顺从劳动力的渴望，部分是由于左翼全球主义者与热爱自由的中产阶级的持续斗争。
在未来，只有打败全球主义的反乌托邦并保护自己的边界和文化的国家才会继续繁荣，其他国家会陷入衰退、暴政和混乱。
免责声明:智商分布对于预测大群体的成功是有用的。对于个人来说，由于分散性，SAT（学业能力倾向测验）分数和对等物是更准确的预测指标。
Brian Coughlan
Sigh. This again.
This nonsensical claim of the pending extinction of Europe (or individual European countries like Sweden) or its descent into Civil War has been made by a loose coalition of fascists and conservatives since the 1990's. It was drivel then and it is drivel now. It requires a unique combination of innumeracy and extreme gullibility to believe.
It is the exact equivalent — and has the same sinister purpose — of Nazi propaganda about the “Jewish International Conspiracy” promulgated in the run up to World War II : targeting a vulnerable minority and demonizing them as a “threat".
It is nothing but a fantasy, shared — rather ironically — by white nationalists and Muslim extremists. Ironic, but not suprising, since such myopic misanthropes are essentially forged from the same flawed, fearful and conservative base metals; and their fervent hatred of the other is indentical even if the focus of that hatred is different.
European Muslims lack both the numbers and - more critically - the uniformity of opinion to “overwhelm” the “Natives” of Europe. Moreover, there is very little evidence that they have any interest in doing such a thing. Even now, in 2018 after adding 2 million refugees, Muslims in Europe barely represent 5% of the population. There is not a single country in the EU that will have a majority Muslim (50% plus) population before 2100.
哎，这样的话题又来了。
这种关于欧洲即将灭亡(或像瑞典这样的单个欧洲国家)或其陷入内战的荒谬主张，是由一个松散的法西斯主义者和保守派联盟自20世纪90年代以来提出的。那时候是一派胡言，现在也是。其受众是科学盲和极易受骗的混合体。
这与纳粹在第二次世界大战前夕发布的关于“犹太人国际阴谋”的宣传完全相同——而且有着同样险恶的目的:将脆弱的少数群体作为目标，并将他们妖魔化为“威胁”。 这不过是一种幻想，颇为讽刺的是，白人民族主义者和穆斯林极端分子也认同这一点。讽刺，但并不奇怪，因为这些短视的厌世者本质上是由同样的有缺陷、恐惧和保守的贱金属锻造而成的。他们对对方的强烈仇恨是相同的，即使仇恨的焦点不同。
欧洲穆斯林既缺乏数量上的优势，更重要的是，他们缺乏统一的观点，无法“压倒”欧洲的“原住民”。此外，几乎没有证据表明他们有兴趣这样做。即使是现在，在2018年增加了200万难民后，欧洲的穆斯林仅占人口的5%。在2100年之前，欧盟没有一个国家的穆斯林人口将占多数(超过50%)。
Sigh. This again.
This nonsensical claim of the pending extinction of Europe (or individual European countries like Sweden) or its descent into Civil War has been made by a loose coalition of fascists and conservatives since the 1990's. It was drivel then and it is drivel now. It requires a unique combination of innumeracy and extreme gullibility to believe.
It is the exact equivalent — and has the same sinister purpose — of Nazi propaganda about the “Jewish International Conspiracy” promulgated in the run up to World War II : targeting a vulnerable minority and demonizing them as a “threat".
It is nothing but a fantasy, shared — rather ironically — by white nationalists and Muslim extremists. Ironic, but not suprising, since such myopic misanthropes are essentially forged from the same flawed, fearful and conservative base metals; and their fervent hatred of the other is indentical even if the focus of that hatred is different.
European Muslims lack both the numbers and - more critically - the uniformity of opinion to “overwhelm” the “Natives” of Europe. Moreover, there is very little evidence that they have any interest in doing such a thing. Even now, in 2018 after adding 2 million refugees, Muslims in Europe barely represent 5% of the population. There is not a single country in the EU that will have a majority Muslim (50% plus) population before 2100.
哎，这样的话题又来了。
这种关于欧洲即将灭亡(或像瑞典这样的单个欧洲国家)或其陷入内战的荒谬主张，是由一个松散的法西斯主义者和保守派联盟自20世纪90年代以来提出的。那时候是一派胡言，现在也是。其受众是科学盲和极易受骗的混合体。
这与纳粹在第二次世界大战前夕发布的关于“犹太人国际阴谋”的宣传完全相同——而且有着同样险恶的目的:将脆弱的少数群体作为目标，并将他们妖魔化为“威胁”。 这不过是一种幻想，颇为讽刺的是，白人民族主义者和穆斯林极端分子也认同这一点。讽刺，但并不奇怪，因为这些短视的厌世者本质上是由同样的有缺陷、恐惧和保守的贱金属锻造而成的。他们对对方的强烈仇恨是相同的，即使仇恨的焦点不同。
欧洲穆斯林既缺乏数量上的优势，更重要的是，他们缺乏统一的观点，无法“压倒”欧洲的“原住民”。此外，几乎没有证据表明他们有兴趣这样做。即使是现在，在2018年增加了200万难民后，欧洲的穆斯林仅占人口的5%。在2100年之前，欧盟没有一个国家的穆斯林人口将占多数(超过50%)。
Even if, “worst” case scenario, a European country reaches a 50% Muslim population - let’s imagine France in 2110 - what of it? Muslims are not the Borg. Just as in Christianity, there are multiple flavors of “Muslim” on a continuum ranging from the lapsed, bacon eating, alcohol drinking, culturally Muslim atheist; to the hard core, misogyny embracing, prayer 5 times a day, Allah is totally awesome, fundamentalist. Thus, even a demographic of 50% will inevitably splinter across multiple political parties just like the rest of us.
Furthermore, my personal — and admittedly anecdotal experience — is that they are assimilated (Hah! I guess that makes us the Borg) fairly quickly; two teenage girls, Syrian refugees I met in 2014, are now almost as Swedish as my own daughter and both speak infuriatingly good Swedish — far better than my own hapless efforts despite living here for 17 years! Both have become independent, confident young women studying and living away from home.
即使是“最坏”的情况，一个欧洲国家的穆斯林人口达到50%——让我们想象一下2110年的法国——那又如何?穆斯林不是博格人（电影中的反派）。
就像在基督教中，有多种口味的“穆斯林”：从失落的、吃培根、喝酒和文化上的穆斯林无神论者；到彻头彻尾的厌恶女性，每天祈祷5次，真主是非常棒的原教旨主义者。因此，即使人口只有50%，也不可避免地会像我们其他人一样分裂成多个政党。
此外，从我的个人经历来看——是他们被同化了，而且相当快；我在2014年遇到的两个十几岁的叙利亚难民女孩，现在的瑞典语几乎和我女儿一样流利，而且她们的瑞典语都好得令人恼火。比我在这里生活了17年的不幸经历好多了！她们都已成为独立、自信的年轻女性，远离家乡学习和生活。
The much touted Muslim birth rate also seems somewhat inflated; I know several Iranians and Bosnians from the refugee waves of the 1980′s and 90's, on average they seem to have about the same number of kids as Swedes. So, while first generation refugee parents may be culturally disposed to have more children, those children — and even children that came with them — tend to align to Swedish/European norms by the time they are old enough to have families of their own.
But feel free to reject my cozy anecdotes. This is fully backed by the latest empirical data on the subject, global population growth is falling across the board, the developed world is just 15 - 30 years ahead of a curve that is happening everywhere.
SO THE MUSLIM/BLACK/BROWN/ TAKEOVER IS NOT HAPPENING. THIS IS NOT A THING. LEARN TO COUNT.
P.S. If I want to have an argument with the racist or the uninformed, there is always YouTube. Post your own damn answer.
被大肆吹捧的穆斯林出生率似乎也有些夸大；我认识几个在20世纪80年代和90年代的难民潮中出生的伊朗人和波斯尼亚人，平均来说，他们的孩子数量似乎和瑞典人差不多。因此，虽然第一代难民父母可能在文化上倾向于要更多的孩子，但这些孩子——甚至是和他们一起来的孩子——在他们足够大到有自己的家庭时，往往会符合瑞典/欧洲的标准。
但你可以拒绝我的温馨轶事。这一点得到了有关这一主题的最新实证数据的充分支持，全球人口增长正在全面下降，发达国家仅比世界各地正在发生的曲线领先15至30年。
所以穆斯林/黑/棕的统治不会发生，这不是问题。要学会计算。
But feel free to reject my cozy anecdotes. This is fully backed by the latest empirical data on the subject, global population growth is falling across the board, the developed world is just 15 - 30 years ahead of a curve that is happening everywhere.
SO THE MUSLIM/BLACK/BROWN/ TAKEOVER IS NOT HAPPENING. THIS IS NOT A THING. LEARN TO COUNT.
P.S. If I want to have an argument with the racist or the uninformed, there is always YouTube. Post your own damn answer.
被大肆吹捧的穆斯林出生率似乎也有些夸大；我认识几个在20世纪80年代和90年代的难民潮中出生的伊朗人和波斯尼亚人，平均来说，他们的孩子数量似乎和瑞典人差不多。因此，虽然第一代难民父母可能在文化上倾向于要更多的孩子，但这些孩子——甚至是和他们一起来的孩子——在他们足够大到有自己的家庭时，往往会符合瑞典/欧洲的标准。
但你可以拒绝我的温馨轶事。这一点得到了有关这一主题的最新实证数据的充分支持，全球人口增长正在全面下降，发达国家仅比世界各地正在发生的曲线领先15至30年。
所以穆斯林/黑/棕的统治不会发生，这不是问题。要学会计算。
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