《三体》影视化,网飞能拍好吗?
2022-09-27 Vnn 15280
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Karl-AnthonyMarx
It’s a good story but there’s no way Netflix is going to adapt it in a way that isn’t incredibly shitty

这是一个很好的故事,但网飞剧版本可能挺糟糕的

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Radulno

回复Karl-AnthonyMarx

To be fair, this does seem like one of those unadaptable things. It's really not easy to see that translated as a TV show

公平地说,这看起来确实不是易事。把它翻译成电视节目真的不容易

Pixel64

回复Radulno

I think you can adapt the first book (Mostly, anyways). Hell, even the second one is probably doable. The third one, however, gets so fucking bizarre that parts of it felt like I was reading a novelization of End of Evangelion. I *hope* it gets to Death's End because I'm legitimately curious how they would try to adapt that book, but that one feels utterly unadaptable to live action.

我认为你可以改编第一本书(无论如何,大部分书改编成电影都是这样的)。见鬼,即使是改变第二本也是可行的。然而,第三本书太他妈的奇怪了,部分内容让我感觉像是在读另一本小说——《新世纪福音战士》。我“希望”它一直改编到《死亡永生》,因为我有理由好奇他们会如何改编这本书,但那本书让人觉得完全不匹配现实生活。

Liviig
Read the first book months back and interesting stuff .But being Netflix I worry a little,hope they don't dumb it down to a generic plot.
Edit : my major reason for worrying about being turned into a generic plot is because the book is hard sci Fi where lots of scientific terms are used which makes the dialogue quite a chore at times and kind of clunky at times.
It makes up for that with an intriguing Mystery and some fascinating ideas The three body game in the novel is quite fascinating.
This book is not easy to digest for your conventional reader and doesn't hold the audience 's hand which works great for me tbh but can hinder some
Will definitely catch up with the rest of the books before the show.

几个月前读了第一本书和一些有趣的东西。但作为网飞剧,我有点担心,希望他们不要把它的情节变得普通了。
编辑:我之所以担心这点,主要原因是这本书是硬科幻小说,使用了很多科学术语,这使得书中对话有时会很恼人,有时也有点笨拙。
它用一个有趣的谜团和一些迷人的想法来弥补这个不足。小说中的三体游戏非常迷人。
这本书对传统读者来说不容易理解,也一心不住他们。但这对我来说很好看,虽然我也会在阅读中遇到一些阻碍。
在这部剧上映前,我一定要追完剩下的书。

clownshow100
Highly recommend reading the next two. They are way better than the first book.

强烈建议阅读后两部。它们比第一本书好得多。
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partytown_usa

回复clownshow100

Yeah, I feel like the author really grew during the writing of the series. The dialog in book one is atrocious. They definitely get better as they progress.

是的,我觉得作者在写这个系列的过程中真的成长了。 第一本书中的对话糟糕透了。但慢慢就变得越来越好了。

nowitscometothis
I hated the first book and had no idea why it was so popular.

我讨厌第一本书,不知道为什么它如此受欢迎。
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the-grim

回复nowitscometothis

Same. It had some interesting ideas but it was in no way groundbreaking in the scifi genre, like so many people praise it. The alien biology and culture was all left rather vague and abstract, which felt very hand-wavey. Not to mention the thin characters.
It feels like Liu Cixin is like Paulo Coelho of scifi: their writing may feel deep and thought-provoking if you don't have that much experience in the genre. But read some Alastair Reynolds or Hannu Rajaniemi, and the ideas and their draft-like presentation in TBP won't impress you.

相同的是,第一本中也有一些有趣的想法,但它绝不是科幻类型的开创性作品,不像许多人赞扬它的那样。关于外星生物和文化给读者留下的印象都相当模糊和抽象,这让人摸不着头脑。更不用说那些单薄的角色了。
刘慈欣就像科幻小说中的保罗·科埃略:如果你对这一类型小说没有太多的阅读经验,他们的作品可能会让你觉得深刻和发人深省。但是,读一些阿拉斯泰尔·雷诺兹、哈努·拉亚涅米等作家的作品,知晓这些作家书中的想法后,类似《三体》平平无奇的描述再不会给你留下深刻印象。

karroq
You should not worry a lot, because it's not just Netflix, it's being made by Game of Thrones' showrunners.

你不必过于担心,因为这不只是网飞剧,制片人还是《权利的游戏》的编剧呢。

LightThatIgnitesAll
Most of the cast are white. I know the book has a few white characters but doesn't this take place in China?
I doubt we will see a negative reaction to this on the scale we did for TROP or HOTD though.

大多数演员都是白人。我知道这本书中有几个白人角色,但这故事不是发生在中国吗?

PrimalZed

回复LightThatIgnitesAll
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Not only are the main characters Chinese, it's made explicit that Chinese history and culture those characters experience were significant in shaping them.

不仅主要人物是中国人,这些人物所经历的中国历史和文化对他们的人物塑造意义重大。
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SkittlesRobot
“Has the universe ever winked at you?”
Okay this looks a lot better than I expected, here’s hoping

“整个宇宙为你闪烁?”
好吧,这看起来比我预想的好多了,希望如此

silentrocco
I have to admit that these images excite me!

我必须承认这些图片让我兴奋!

Myrrh2501
Why there are characters from the third book?????

为什么有第三本书的人物?????

SilentBob62

回复Myrrh2501

I would expect it's to give us some continuity when the story focus shifts to them. If we start a new season and suddenly switch MC to someone entirely new, I suspect it would throw a lot of viewers.

我希望当故事重心转移到他们身上时,这会给我们带来一些连续性。如果我们开始新一季时,突然将MC换人,我想这会丢掉很多观众的。

thehollowshrine
I don't think that's Sophon. In the last seconds of the video, there's a brief shot of her striking her sword at whoever John Bradley is playing, him dressed in Medi-looking clothes. This all might be the game and they're actually expanding Book 1, instead of trimming it down to cut to the best parts. Them not calling the series with its proper name and not being able to pronounce Liu Cixin's name correctly is an indelible stain on this adaptation, but it's... possible that's the only problem with it.
Edit: Plus, the clapperboard on what appears to be a control panel at Radar Peak says "EP 02", so Ye Wenjie's story may get the proper, lengthy treatment it deserves.

我认为那不是智子。 在视频的最后几秒钟,有一个简短的镜头,她向约翰·布拉德利扮演的人挥剑,他穿着中世纪的衣服。 这一切都可能是游戏,他们实际上是在第 1 本外做着延伸,而不是把它修剪成最好的部分。 他们没有使用书中的名字,也不能正确地发刘慈欣的名字,这是改编剧的一个不可规避的缺点,但……这可能是它唯一的问题。
编辑:另外,雷达峰控制面板上的隔板写着“第二部”,所以叶文洁的故事可能会适当地拉长。

CreeperTrainz
I must say, while it looks like it's gonna be great I'm a bit disappointed by some of the changes. Most notably the location change. While having the first story's present day storyline happen in London rather than Beijing doesn't change much plotwise, I do feel like much will be lost culture wise. Feels like a bit of a disservice. But who knows, it still looks nice.

我必须说,虽然看起来会很好,但我对一些变化有点失望。最显著的是地点的变化。第一个故事的情节发生在伦敦而不是北京。虽然这不会改变很多情节,但我确实觉得很多东西都会失去原有的文化所带来的智慧。感觉有点受伤害。但谁知道呢,它看起来还是不错。

SetiSteve
Judging a show before it’s even been released is like judging a book by its cover. How are people disappointed in something that is still months away? Weirdos.

在节目尚未发布之前就对其进行评判,就像根据封面来评判一本书一样。 人们如何对几个月后的事情感到失望? 真奇怪。

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