为什么特斯拉永远不会在印度建造超级工厂?
2023-02-15 用功 15209
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Mrinal Saurabh
The only thing Indian government demands is that you manufacture everything ground up, in India. The question isn't who is going to do that, but who is going to do that first.

印度政府唯一的要求就是你要在印度生产所有的东西。问题不是谁会这么做,而是谁会首先这么做。

H. Teo
BYD has been informed recently, after spending a huge sum of money to build 2 factories in India to produce 2 (Atto 3 and E6)models of EVs. But now, BYD is informed that the taxes for components imported will be raised much further in tax-rate. It is surprising to BYD, which must be learning a lesson the hard way!

比亚迪最近就吃亏了,花费了巨资在印度建造了两家工厂,生产两款(Atto 3和E6)电动汽车。然后却被告知,进口零部件的税率将进一步提高。这让比亚迪大吃一惊,以惨痛的方式上了一课!

Rainbow Oriental
@H. Teo
Oh, thanks to your information, It is just sound like an excessive protectionism method.

哦,谢谢你的信息,这听起来像是一种过度的保护主义。

Vineet C V
U manufacture in India, less tax. U important and assembe in India u pay 100% tax, and byd working in India from last 5 yrs under it's subsidiary olectra. So ya byd knows wt to do.

你在印度生产,税收会更少。你进口并在印度组装,你要缴纳100%的税,比亚迪在过去5年通过印度子公司olectra开展工作。所以你比亚迪知道该怎么做了。

Staunch Fellow
Haha try hard, just mid way of your comment everyone can sense your rant on India

哈哈,努力吧,就在你评论的中途,每个人都能感觉到你对印度的咆哮

????????
@Vineet C V
The problem is some component like battery or chip are cannot build in india because there is no a single india supplier. Building those supply chain will take more time and money, and it's not guaranteed that those component are cheaper or better than the imported one from china

问题是电池或芯片等部件无法在印度生产,因为印度没有供应商。建立这些供应链需要更多的时间和金钱,而且不能保证这些部件比从中国进口的更便宜或更好。

Vineet C V
@????????
With that logic india would do nothing right. We built software industry and gradually will will build hardware industry

按照这种逻辑,印度什么都做不了。我们已经建立了软件产业,并将逐步建立硬件产业。

????????
@Vineet C V
Building a software are pretty much easier than building a hardware

软件产业要比硬件产业容易得多

Vineet C V
@????????
That's y we need time to build hardware

这就是为什么我们需要时间来建立硬件

Shanker Ram
Yes, very true, India has very high taxes on imported vehicles. It should be kept that way to benefit the Indian people, not some foreign company.

是的,没错,印度对进口汽车征收很高的税。应该保持这种方式,让印度人民受益,而不是让外国公司受益。

Rahul J
Even car locally made have highest taxes among emerging economies or G20 nations leaving aside Singapore

即使是本地生产的汽车,在新兴经济体或G20国家中(不包括新加坡),印度的税率也是最高的。

Aerism
Then car companies in India face no competition. And no competition means no innovation or change.

这样印度的汽车公司就没有竞争了。没有竞争就没有创新和改变。

Mr. Knowledge
like he said that's a scarcity mindset, it's not gonna work.

就像他说的,这是一种匮乏心态,是行不通的。

YourFrienjamin
@Aerism
Yep.
It will also mean that they eventually grow independent by making their own vehicles, competing locally more than internationally.

是的,这也意味着印度最终会通过生产自己的汽车来实现独立,更多地参与本土竞争而不是国际竞争。

Archana Singh
@Aerism
there are multiple car companies in india they are competing withing themselves

印度本土有多家汽车公司相互竞争

9 percent battery
The example he gave about chinese companies flourishing by replicating foreign car company's IP is very biased, There are big capital investments from the ccp to accelerate local companies which india can't do, so it would make a lot of sense to provide a safe environment devoid of large established brands and promoting a free market. Give it time and the technology will catch up, it's not like there's a shortage of brains :)

他举的中国公司通过复制外国汽车公司的知识产权而蓬勃发展的例子是非常偏见的。中国有大量资本投资来加速本土公司的发展,这是印度做不到的,所以提供一个没有大型知名品牌和促进自由市场的安全环境是很有意义的。给点时间,技术会赶上来的,这并不愚蠢:)

TooliusTech
@Mr. Knowledge
Also just incase you did not know.. there are other ways of getting the tech.. like buying out jag / land rover and pininfarina and doing joint ventures to absorb the tech. Just allowing the world in and giving them tax breaks that cost us jobs and ruin our car industry.. no thanks mate.. You need a rethink :)

以防你不知道…还有其他方法获得技术。比如收购捷豹、路虎和宾尼法利纳,建立合资企业来吸收技术。让外资进入,给他们减税,让我们失去工作,进而毁了我们的汽车工业。不,谢谢,伙计。你需要重新考虑一下:)

amar nath
Tata and M&M will rule.. This have come long way in the quality.. They are the safest car and more economical.

塔塔和M&M将统治世界。他们在质量上已经取得了长足的进步。它们是最安全的汽车,也更便宜。

Puli.Bhargav Datta
In india, 95% of all cars sold are priced under US$ 19,000(2021 rates). 2 wheelers account for 85% of all passenger vehicles on the road.

在印度,95%的汽车售价低于19,000美元(2021年价格)。两轮车占道路上所有乘用车的85%。

Rainbow Oriental
So, I think this mean most of Indians can't afford a Tesla model due to relatively low income.
Even Tesla willing to build a factory probably can't sell well, excepting the fast growth could generate a large layer of middle clasee within several years.

所以,我认为这意味着大多数印度人由于收入相对较低,买不起特斯拉。
即使特斯拉愿意建厂,可能也卖的不好,除非经济快速增长可以在几年内产生一大批中产阶级。

Nathan Ryweck
I looked it up, they buy almost 3 million 4-wheel passenger cars per year in India, which is still a significant number.

我查了一下,印度每年购买近300万辆四轮乘用车,这仍然是一个很大的数字。

justasking
@Nathan Ryweck
of which only 150 k were priced above 19 k usd.

其中只有15万辆的车,价格高于1,9000美元。

vincecarlo
If Tesla can Sell a Car for 10 Lakh ~USD 13K
They will Sell a Ton of them

如果特斯拉能以100万卢比,大约1.3万美元的价格出售汽车,他们就会卖出很多的。

Just Me
@vincecarlo
The batteries alone cost a little more than that.

光电池的成本就比这还高一点。

Ramesh Tallapragada
95% of that is under 20 Lacks. Tesla has no car in that range.

(印度购买的汽车)其中 95% 的价格都低于 200 万卢比。特斯拉没有在该价格范围内的汽车。

Nathan Ryweck
@Ramesh Tallapragada
it is coming soon from the next factory in Mexico

它很快就会从墨西哥的下一个工厂生产出来

TheBooban
@Nathan Ryweck
exactly. India has almost 1.5 billion people. Don't talk percentages with India, talk real numbers. The rich may be few, but few in India is alot.

完全正确,印度有近15亿人口,不要和印度谈百分比,要谈真实数字。富人可能很少,但在印度,很少就是很多。

Rainbow Oriental
@TheBooban
But Mexico is a member of the North America Freetrade zone and can serve US and Canada. Germany is an EU member state so could serve EU27 countries. China themselves has a massive number of middle income.
Compare with the top three economies(US China, EU), I think a bunch of rich Indians isn't enough to attract a gigafactory with a full supply chain now. (Only An assemble factory can't exempt from 35% component import tax).

但墨西哥是北美自由贸易区的成员,可以为美国和加拿大服务。德国是欧盟成员国,所以可以为欧盟27个国家服务。中国本身就有大量的中等收入人群。
与前三大经济体(美国、中国、欧盟)相比,我认为一群富有的印度人不足以吸引拥有完整供应链的超级工厂。(只有组装厂不能免征35%的零部件进口税)

Nathan Ryweck
@Rainbow Oriental
If Tesla could sell a car for $20k that's made in India, they could probably be one of the the best selling cars in India and even export it to the rest of South Asia as well as the Middle East. Let's say they make 1 million of these cheap teslas per year in India, that would be $20 billion in revenue per year. The other advantage would be diversifying production for the Asia market out of China and getting much cheaper labor.

如果特斯拉能以2万美元的价格出售一辆印度制造的汽车,那他们可能是印度最畅销的汽车之一,甚至可以出口到南亚其他地区和中东。假设他们每年在印度生产100万辆这种廉价版特斯拉,每年的收入将是200亿美元。另一个优势是将亚洲市场的生产从中国转移出去,并得到廉价得多的劳动力。

Nathan Ryweck
@TheBooban
it could work because labor in India is so cheap the car could also be made way cheaper, but what it really depends on is the cooperation of the Indian oligarchs and politicians.

它可能会有用,因为印度的劳动力非常便宜,生产出来的汽车也可以变得更便宜,但实际取决于印度寡头和政治家的合作。

shirishag75able
@Nathan Ryweck
But for that to happen, everything needs to be manufactured in India. We can't do batteries...yet :( We can't do any chip manufacturing...yet. You need whole bunch of things which are not yet in India. We need 3-4nm fab, the best we have 200nm and that's at Chandigarh. Nothing below that.

但要做到这一点,一切都需要在印度制造。我们还不能生产电池… :( 我们还不能制造任何芯片……还需要一大堆印度还没有的东西。我们需要3-4纳米晶圆厂,我们最好的也就200纳米,那是在昌迪加尔,没有比200纳米更先进的了。

Nathan Ryweck
@shirishag75able
it takes a lot of infrastructure investment and international partnerships to make batteries and chips and EVs but it is important to not be dependent on China for all of this stuff because it is the future and for what it's worth, as an American, I would just urge Indians to support making these kinds of investments in technology and manufacturing for both your long term economic growth and security as well as ours.

制造电池、芯片和电动汽车需要大量基础设施投资和国际合作伙伴关系,但重要的是不要在所有这些东西上依赖中国,因为这些产业是未来,价值无量,作为一名美国人,我只想敦促印度人支持在技术和制造业方面进行此类投资,以实现您和我们的长期经济增长和安全。

Rainbow Oriental
@Nathan Ryweck
I agree you them could sell well IF they could decrease the price down to 20k dollars. (but maybe mean far less margin per car compared with other markets)
But I don't think India has a free trade agreement with west Asia so this is an underlying cost-adding factor. And Gulf counties have the lowest petrol price in the world.
Diversification is reasonable thinking, and I agree with this point.

我同意你的观点,如果特斯拉能把价格降到 2 万美元,他们就能卖得很好。 (但可能意味着与其他市场相比,每辆车的利润率要低得多)
但我认为印度与西亚没有自由贸易协定,因此这是一个潜在的成本增加因素。而且海湾国家的汽油价格是世界上最低的。
多元化是一种合理的思考,这一点我是认同的。

Rich B
@Ramesh Tallapragada
None Today but later this decade there will be options such as the Robo Taxi.

现在还没有,但过个几年,将会有诸如机器人出租车之类的选择。

Rich B
This is true but Robo Taxi will change the economics of transportation. Low income people can purchase the car and use the income it makes as a Taxi, to pay for it.

这是事实,但机器人出租车(robotaxi)将改变交通经济学。 低收入者可以购买汽车并将其作为出租车获取收入来支付费用。

Ramesh Tallapragada
@Rich B
not sure robotaxi is a good option in India because of traffic condition and rules for most part of India.

由于印度大部分地区的交通状况和规则,不确定 robotaxi 在印度是否是一个不错的选择。

vincecarlo
@shirishag75able
Sadly India has Jurassic Low Tech

可悲的是印度的科技还在侏罗纪时代

moonknight YT shorts
@shirishag75able
bruh we got jackpot just a day ago ! Confirmed India found world's 2nd Largest reserves of lithium so yeah soon expect we will quickly expand ! Previous year India's first lithium refinery also set up in gujrat they were saying that 2 nd one coming in Maharashtra ! (We already found two mines in Argentina of lithium and copper ! Recently India buying lots of mines in South America ) but i think now we will not have to buy much since in Jammu now enough lithium we found to make battery! We can even get huge nikel from Indonesia (they have one of the largest nikel reserves in the world )
+ India have FTA signed with Australia
This year ! Perfectly on time we will now have good environment for battery production ! anyway already tata and Mahindra doing fine in EV sector! MG and Kia also doing fine ! And citron also joined Indian Market 5-6 months ago. ! Which makes good cars in Europe !

我们在一天前中奖了!确认印度发现了世界第二大锂矿,所以很快我们就会迅速扩张!去年,印度第一家锂精炼厂也在古吉拉特邦建立了,他们说第二家将在马哈拉施特拉邦建成! (我们已经在阿根廷发现了锂矿和铜矿!最近印度在南美洲购买了很多矿山)但我认为现在我们不必购买太多,因为在查谟,现在我们发现了足够的锂来制造电池! 我们甚至可以从印度尼西亚获得非常多的镍(他们拥有世界上最大的镍储量之一)
印度与澳大利亚签署了自由贸易协定
今年!非常及时地,我们现在将拥有良好的电池生产条件! 无论如何,tata 和 Mahindra 在电动车领域已经做得很好了! MG和起亚(Kia)也做的不错! 而香橼(citron)也在5-6个月前加入了印度市场,香橼(citron)在欧洲生产了非常好的车!

shirishag75able
@moonknight YT shorts
I know, but just having lithium deposits doesn't make it good. Bolivia has some of the world's largest deposits but all the mines have been taken by Chinese. Money got by Bolivia went to Govt. but was squandered and has been squandered. They are still as poor as used to be. This probably will also be given to Adani at cheap rates and he would sell it abroad :(

我知道,但仅仅拥有锂矿并不能使情况变得更好。玻利维亚拥有一些世界上最大的矿藏,但所有矿山都被中国人拿走了。玻利维亚得到的钱流向了政府,但却被浪费了,过去也是这样被浪费了。现在他们仍然像过去一样贫穷。这些矿藏也可能会以低廉的价格转给阿达尼,然后他会把它卖到国外:(

shirishag75able
There is a reason why CATL and BYD are number one and number two battery manufacturers in the world. We are not even in the top 20. Most of it because we don't invest in R&D. Most of our companies invest less than 1% in R&D while the Chinese invest close to 30% year after year. And this is all in public domain.

宁德时代和比亚迪成为了全球第一和第二的电池制造商是有原因的。我们甚至没能进入前20名。主要是因为我们没有投资研发。 我们大多数公司在研发方面的投资不到 1%,而中国公司年复一年地投入接近 30%。这一切都是公开的。

Aerism
Should make EV bikes then if Bikes so popular!!!! :)

如果自行车如此受欢迎,那么就应该制造电动自行车!!!! :)

Archana Singh
who says that everyone in the us buys tesla even they cant afford that

谁说美国每个人都买特斯拉,即使是美国人也嫌特斯拉贵。

Amit Sahoo
Discovered 2nd largest Li deposits.
Looks like avoiding foreign players was in the long game to benefit domestic companies.

印度发现了第二大锂矿床。从长远来看,似乎避开外国玩家对国内公司有利。

Skull Shockers
The main reason is second one that you said - taxes, not corruption!! Imported cars get taxed more. Only way is to setup a factory in India. Tesla will only do that if it thinks that Tesla will sell in those huge numbers in India.
I think the more affordable Tesla Model 2 may have the potential to sell in high numbers.

主要原因是你说的第二个-税收,而不是腐败!进口汽车要征更多的税。唯一的办法是在印度设厂。特斯拉只有在认为特斯拉将在印度大量销售时才会这样做。我认为更实惠的特斯拉 Model 2 可能会大量销售。
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Nikhil VJ
The ev bikes here in India are awesome. I think that is a much better way to use ev tech than bulky cars.

印度的电动自行车很棒。我认为这是一种比笨重的汽车更好的使用电动技术的方式。

shuriken48
One important point not mentioned, the luxury car market in India is minuscule, so another big reason for Tesla to ignore this market for now.

有一点没有提到,印度的豪华车市场很小,这才是特斯拉暂时忽视这个市场的另一个重要原因。

zubinix
At one point in the near future this will change rapidly. Also the very high import taxes are masking the true size of India's luxury car market.

在不久的将来,这种情况会迅速改变。 此外,极高的进口税抑制了印度豪华车市场的真实规模。

Tuvoca
Probably the main reason.
Tessla can't compete.

也许主要原因是特斯拉竞争不过。

Just Me
Teslas aren't really "luxury cars" -- they're priced like it though.

特斯拉并不是真正的“豪华车”——尽管特斯拉的定价与之相仿。

Paul McGreevy
@Just Me
there's a certain group of the population that can't work out that they work out cheaper due to fuel savings.

有一部分人不会计算,他们觉得特斯拉更便宜,因为它不用消耗燃料。

Just Me
@Paul McGreevy
Not just the fuel savings, but there is also almost 0 maintenance required for an EV.

不光节省燃料,而且电动汽车所需的维护几乎为零。

sean borshard
@Just Me
yeah lol what a statement. If I may add, tesla would do amazing if they could sell their cars for 5k.... lolol

是啊,哈哈。如果我可以补充一点的话,假如特斯拉能以 5000 美元的价格出售他们的汽车,那将令人惊讶……哈哈哈

Zed Zed
@Just Me
car maintenance is so cheap in india.

汽车维护在印度很便宜

The Electrochemist
Very true, it's mostly the elite that buy luxury cars or can afford an eV in India.

没错,在印度购买豪华车或买得起电动汽车的主要是精英阶层。

vincecarlo
@Just Me
True that
Tesla positions themselves as a Luxury brand but it's far from it with Crappy Built n Quality

诚然,特斯拉将自己定位为一个奢侈品牌,但它与奢侈品牌相去甚远,因为其糟糕的质量。

shuriken48
@Just Me
Aren't they though? Glass roof, top of the line sound system, the HEPA air filtration, etc. It is at the very least equivalent to a LX model of other brands. Plus it has the performance of a luxury car.

特斯拉不是奢侈品牌吗? 玻璃天窗、顶级音响系统、HEPA空气过滤等,起码相当于其他品牌的LX车型。加上它具有豪华车的性能。

shuriken48
@Tuvoca
Yes, but this is by design, as right now they have the production capacity of a luxury brand, but once they add some more factories, the next generation Tesla will be much cheaper. People easily forget that Tesla has only been making their own EVs for about 10 years.

是的,就是这么设计的,因为他们现在拥有豪华品牌的生产能力,但是一旦他们增加一些工厂,下一代特斯拉就会便宜得多。人们很容易忘记,特斯拉制造电动汽车才大约 10 年。
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shuriken48
@zubinix
Yes, but even if you would double or triple it, by the population size, it would still be minuscule. India is just not there yet, but as you point it will not be long before that changes and at that point Tesla can make a move, after all they can build a Giga Factory in a year to 18 months.

是的,但即使你将它增加一倍或三倍,根据人口规模,它仍然是微不足道的。 印度还没有到那一步,但正如你所指出的那样,不久之后就会发生变化,届时特斯拉可能会采取行动,毕竟他们可以在12到18个月内,就建造一座超级工厂。

Al Khan
The market is large, but probably only for very cheap cars, and the margins are very small.

印度市场虽然很大,但可能只局限在非常便宜的汽车,而且利润很低。

shirishag75able
@vincecarlo
They do have a plan for USD 20k but GOI wouldn't allow them otherwise all others will fall by wayside.

他们(特斯拉)确实有一个 20,000 美元的计划,但 GOI 不允许他们这样做,否则所有其他人都会半途而废。

Lost&found
@Noah E
The fact that you got lucky with one car maintenance doesn't mean everyone would. I'm positive if you make survey just here most people would disagree with your assessment of low maintenance on ICE cars.
I think you (everyone) just have to ask yourself one question "is the EV a future or not" and go from there. Clawing at small things either way pro or against EVs not going to make any difference in the long run.

事实上,你幸运地维修了一次汽车并不意味着每个人都会。我敢肯定,如果你在这里进行调查,大多数人都会不同意你对内燃机汽车低维护的评估。
我认为你(每个人)只需要问自己一个问题“电动汽车是否是未来”,然后再基于此思考。 对电动汽车某些小事情不管是赞成还是反对,从长远来看,都无法阻挡电动汽车普及的潮流。

Rajeev Kumar
Yeah, it doesn't help that rupee fell >50% in value over the last decade and nobody blxed.

嗯,在过去十年,卢比贬值超过 50%, 并且没有人眨眼,(特斯拉在不在印度建厂)也无济于事。

Lachlan T
@vincecarlo
America is way less competitive then China. Basically nobody is competing with Tesla so there's essentially zero alternatives. China has BYD. India has a 35% higher tax. Maybe Tesla could sell the model S Plaid for like 500k USD to India? Besides that the model 3 could be 100k in India. The reason why those prices are insane is because Tesla won't be shipping many cars making the shipping costs insanely high.

美国的竞争力远不如中国。在美国,基本上没有人与特斯拉竞争,所以美国人也没有其他选择。而中国有比亚迪。印度的税率高达 35%。也许特斯拉可以以50万美元的价格向印度出售S型车?此外,Model3在印度的销量可能达到十万。价格之所以如此疯狂,是因为特斯拉没有运送很多汽车,从而使得每辆车的运输成本高得离谱。

Lachlan T
@vincecarlo
You're talking about their Fremont factory. Tesla has 3 other car manufacturing facilities besides Fremont. Fremont has bad quality for sure but Shanghai, Texas and giga Berlin are really well built. Fremont needs to be redone but they will only do so when it helps their mission of increasing the speed of production. Shutting down a factory just because some of your cars have issues which can be fixed after they've been made isn't worth shutting down their factory temporarily at this point.

你说的是他们的弗里蒙特工厂。 除了弗里蒙特,特斯拉还有其他 3 家汽车制造工厂。弗里蒙特的质量很差,但上海、得克萨斯和 giga柏林的质量非常好。弗里蒙特需要重做,但只有在有助于提高生产效率时,他们才会这样做。仅仅因为一些汽车有质量问题,就关闭工厂并不值得,况且这些问题,是可以解决的。

Lachlan T
@vincecarlo
You're changing goal posts btw. I thought we were talking about India. The cars that would be sold to India would come from Shanghai not Fremont. The Shanghai cars are well built.

顺便说一句,你正在改变话题。 我以为我们在谈论印度。 出售给印度的汽车将来自上海,而不是弗里蒙特。 上海汽车做工不错。

Lachlan T
@vincecarlo
Tesla's are priced at what demand tells them to. They can cut prices but they have no reason to.

特斯拉的定价是根据需求定的。他们可以降价,但他们没有理由这样做。

DC
Though I would wonder how the EV infrastructure would be like in India?

不过我还是想知道印度电动汽车的基础设施如何?

Anita Thakur
@DC
indias petrol infrastructure is good but ev infrastructure is almost non existent

印度的石油基础设施很好,但电动汽车的基础设施几乎没有。

moonknight YT shorts
@Anita Thakur
at least in my state Maharashtra which is leading in Ev's doing fine !

至少在我所在的马哈拉施特拉邦,电动汽车(基础设施)做得很好!

Rajeev Kumar
@moonknight YT shorts
lol, I don't think that was the takeaway I was looking for. If the govt actually worked as their supposed to and industrialized our nation rapidly, increased exports, created a corruption free environment and so on, the rupee most likely would have still been 50Rupees/$. That would mean that more of us could have afforded the car/parts.

哈哈,我不认为那是我要的东西。如果政府真的有像他们应该的那样工作,并迅速实现我们国家的工业化,增加出口,创造一个没有腐败的环境等等,卢比很可能仍然是 50 卢比/美元。 那将意味着我们中的更多人可以买得起汽车/零件。

Just Me
@moonknight YT shorts
Right, but you're never going to see it from Tesla. Cars in the US cost more than this, unless you're buying used.

是的,但你永远不会从特斯拉那里看到它。美国的汽车价格比这高,除非你购买二手车。

moonknight YT shorts
@Just Me
who tf cares lol ! Mostly Indians see features and cost (for a reason apple iOS didn't BeCome a thing in India )
We love open source softwares ! We love modification!

谁在乎啊,哈哈!大多数印度人看重的是功能和成本(苹果 iOS 在印度没有普及的原因)
我们喜欢开源软件! 我们喜欢改装!

Just Me
@moonknight YT shorts
Who tf cares about what cars sell in India? It's a tiny,tiny market for cars right now. Most people can't afford one.

谁关心印度卖什么车? 印度汽车市场,现在还是一个很小很小的市场。大多数人都买不起。

ArmageddonIsHere
Tesla is luxury? That's news to me.
Price alone doesn't make it so.
Amenities, looks, and fit and finish, build quality do.
On that last point, Tesla gets an F.

特斯拉是奢侈品? 这对我来说是个新闻。
单靠价格并不能做到这一点。
便利设施、外观、适应性和完成度,建造质量。
在最后一点上,特斯拉得分为F。

shuriken48
@ArmageddonIsHere
This is really, really old news. There is a video on Youtube of someone in Europe that works in car body and paint work and he compared a recent Tesla with European luxury brands and the paint and gaps were just as bad on other brands. This is old news from 2019 when Tesla was ramping to 5000 EVs a week and had growing pains. With the 2 pieces body casting and the new paint shop, this is no longer the case.

这是真的,是老新闻了。油管上有一段欧洲人从事车身和油漆工作的视频,他将最新的特斯拉与欧洲奢侈品牌进行了比较,特斯拉的油漆和缝隙像其他品牌一样糟糕。这是 2019 年的旧消息,当时特斯拉每周生产 5000 辆电动汽车,并且遇到了成长的烦恼。 在有了 2 件式车身铸造和新的喷漆车间后,情况就不再如此了。

Mile Stone
1) Elon wanted to import Tesla from China which was opposed by India as Tesla could be sharing data with China on telemetry .
2)Make in India push by the government
3) It's was not about corruption, if there was any Elon would have gone to press with it.

1)埃隆想从中国进口特斯拉,这遭到了印度的反对,因为特斯拉可能会与中国共享遥测数据。
2)政府想推动印度制造
3 ) 这与腐败无关,如果有的话,埃隆也会搞定它。

Roy Teo
also the EV market penetration in China was already at a significant percentage when Tesla started in China

此外,当特斯拉在中国起步时,中国电动汽车市场的渗透率就已经很高
(译者注:新能源汽车零售渗透率,指的是在一定时期内,新能源汽车销量占汽车总销量的比重)

Vibhav Tekchand
India is a high cost and low yield market, a very fundamental point everyone misses. Some learn after burning their fingers.

印度是一个成本高收益低的市场,这是每个人都忽略的一个非常基本的要素。 有些人是在手指烧伤后才知道的。

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