话题讨论:尼泊尔人携家人在德里旅行遭到性骚扰,在网上发帖抱怨竟被死亡威胁 part1
2023-07-23 碧波荡漾恒河水 9263
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I am a Nepali traveling your country and I can fully say it is fully messed up

原标题:我是尼泊尔人,在你们国家旅行,我可以说你们的国家完全是一团糟。

There are countless examples, and you all know them better than me. Although I am not trying to say that Nepal is any better.

有无数的例子,你们都比我更了解。虽然我并不是说尼泊尔更好。

At first, I thought India wouldn't be as bad as my friends called it, but after touring the country, I realized how much worse it was! Countless people were trying to flirt with my sister, making her uncomfortable, and some even committed straight-up sexual harassment. Mind you, this happened in broad daylight in Delhi.

起初,我以为印度不会像我朋友说的那么糟糕,但在参观了这个国家之后,我意识到它糟糕得多! 无数人试图调戏我妹妹,让她感到不舒服,有些人甚至直接进行性骚扰。提醒你一下,这种情况发生在光天化日之下的德里。

Our plan was to tour Delhi and go to other states, but we returned home only after 3 weeks instead of the 2 months we had planned. Hell, in those three weeks, the number of conflicts and sexual harassment cases I witnessed was immense, not only involving my sister but also normal girls walking down the streets. It makes my blood boil that some people don't even have basic humanity.

我们的计划是游览德里和其他邦,但我们只待了3周后就回家了,而不是计划的2个月。在那三个星期里,我目睹了无数的冲突和性骚扰案件,不仅涉及我的妹妹,也包括走在街上的普通女孩。有些人连最基本的人性都没有,这让我怒不可遏。
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If I had to write more, I could probably make this reach 2000 words, but I won't. All I feel is pity towards the normal girls living in India. I want to clarify that I am not trying to say ALL INDIANS ARE BAD, and Nepal isn't much better but we have never felt this unsafe in Nepal.

如果我必须写更多,我可能会写2000字,但我不会。我为生活在印度的普通女孩感到遗憾。我想澄清的是,我并不是说所有印度人都是坏人,尼泊尔也好不到哪里去,但我们在尼泊尔从未感到如此不安全。

There is a reason most of Nepalese are distrustful of Indians or just straight up hate them.

大多数尼泊尔人不信任印度人或者直接讨厌他们是有原因的。

Edit- I am sorry if I seem as a xenophobic but seeing your sister getting harassed and you not being able to do anything hurts. I am sorry if this post hurt anyone.

编辑——如果我看起来像个仇外者,我很抱歉,但看到我妹妹被骚扰,而我却什么都做不了,这让我很伤心。如果这篇文章伤害了任何人,我很抱歉。
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Edit 2- We didn't stay in delhi for 3 weeks we stayed there for 6 days since we had few relatives here too. Also my uncle was also going to join us in delhi so we had to wait for him too.

编辑2:我们没有在德里呆3周,只呆了6天,因为我们在这里也没有什么亲戚。我的叔叔也要和我们一起去德里,所以我们也得等他。

Also the many weren't flirting with my sister, they were either making sexist joke or just straight up trying to touch up (which they luckily couldn't), there were many other things but I won't go into that. Also note it my sister is 16 years old and she looks like a 16 year old but she just has fair skin.

而且很多人也并不是和我妹妹调情,他们要么是在开性别歧视的玩笑,要么就是直接想上手(幸运的是他们没有得逞),还有很多其他的事情,但我不会细说。另外请注意,我的妹妹16岁,她看起来也是16岁,但她只是皮肤白皙。
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Edit 3-I am not an anti-Indian or anti-nationalist. I posted this because I wanted to share my experience, and I admit that it is my fault for considering Delhi as representative of the entirety of India. This is just a rant post, and I am simply trying to express myself.

编辑3:我不是一个反印度或反民族主义者。我发这篇文章是因为我想分享我的经验,我承认,把德里当作整个印度的代表是我的错。这只是一个咆哮帖,我只是想表达我自己。

I will probably dexe my reddit account due to the amount of hate DMs I am receiving. I will say it again I am sorry if I this post hurt anyone, I never thought it would get so big that people would send death threats to me. I am sorry.

我可能会删除我的reddit账户,因为我收到了大量的仇恨私信。我要再说一遍,如果我的帖子伤害了任何人,我很抱歉,我从来没有想过这件事会闹得这么大,以至于人们会给我发来死亡威胁。我很抱歉。

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travenk
Guy posts a message saying his sister was harassed and they felt unsafe. Best thing to do is to send him death threats. That’ll prove him wrong. s

一个人发了一条消息说他妹妹被骚扰了,而且他们觉得不安全。最好的办法就是给他发死亡威胁。那会证明他错了。/狗头
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Throwrafairbeat
No one is responsible for the bad reputation of Indians except Indians themselves, it's not even the western media at this point.

除了印度人自己,没有人应该为印度人的坏名声负责,在这一点上,甚至西方媒体也不必。

NikoliVolkoff
Don't dexe your account, fuck the Reddit Haters. 90% of them have probably never been outside of their own home town let alone to another country.

不要删除你的账户,去他妈的红迪网喷子,他们中90%的人可能从来没有离开过自己的家乡,更不用说到另一个国家了。

darkspardaxxxx
Dont be afraid of death threats. Your words are needed to make these creeps accountable for their actions

不要害怕死亡威胁。需要你的话来让这些混蛋为他们的行为负责。

ashodhiyavipin
Listen to this guys. Don't run away from conflict. Say what you have to say and let others take offence.

听听这些家伙。不要逃避冲突。说你该说的话,随别人生气去。

I am a proud Indian and disagree with you that all Indians are bad and that India as a country is bad. Due to sheer size and numbers statistically your chances of running into bad actors or anti social elements is very very high in India than in other countries.

我是一个自豪的印度人,不同意你所说的所有印度人都是坏人,以及印度作为一个国家是坏国家。由于庞大的规模和统计数据,你在印度遇到坏人或反社会分子的机会比其他国家要高得多。

Do give us another chance and the average run of the mill Indian is not how you described it.

请再给我们一次机会,普通的印度人并不是你描述的那样。

I am sorry and apologise to you about your experience here in India and my apologies to your sister too. I hope you come back to India again at some later time and have a positive experience.

我对你在印度的经历感到抱歉,向你道歉,也向你妹妹道歉。我希望你以后再来印度,并得到一个正面的体验。

Take care buddy.

保重,兄弟。

Dinilddp
Delhi even as an Indian dude i will never go there till they fix their mentality. Lol. I'm sorry for what happened with your family and Delhi is a shithole in many ways and i hope delhites will do something about it.

德里,即使作为一个印度人,我也不会去那里,直到他们改变心态。哈哈,我对你的家人发生的事感到抱歉,德里在很多方面都是一个粪坑,我希望德里人能做点什么。

GirlHereAndThere
When I was 15 or so, I remember going on a sports tour to Delhi (we were representing a southern state). After the event ended, we all went out for a party. One of the Delhi kids came by driving a car and with a bunch of booze next to him.

我记得在我15岁左右的时候,我参加了一次去德里的体育之旅(我们代表的是南部的一个邦)。活动结束后,我们都出去参加聚会。一个德里的孩子开着车来了,旁边还带着一堆酒。

We southies were so confused about the whole thing. Like why are you driving Your parents can’t drive you or what And don’t drink please, it’s bad for you.

我们南方人对整件事都很困惑。比如你为什么要开车,你父母不能开车带你来吗,还有请不要喝酒,这对你不好。

Took me like 10 years to figure out he was trying to impress us.

我花了差不多十年才明白他是想给我们留下好印象。

Kaybolbe
I was on a trip to Dehradun with my family , I was barely a teenager when a delhite harassed me and my sisters.

我和家人去德拉敦旅行,那时我还不到十几岁,就有一只德里人骚扰了我和我的姐妹们。

Lexillios
The sexual harassment only happens to us women when we are underage. It stopped after I was 22.

性骚扰只发生在我们女性未成年的时候。在我22岁之后就停止了。

designgirl
That......is not good. So lots of child predators roaming around then.

那……不是很好。所以当时到处都是儿童掠食者。
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deepoops
Its easier to approach a timid unsure teen, than a 22 year old who will be far more confident. Male 'attention' is always the highest from around 12-13, till you enter your 20s.

接近一个胆小、不自信的青少年要比接近一个自信得多的22岁的年轻人容易。对于12-13岁到20多岁的(女性)来说,男性的“注意力”总是最高的。
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Airballed
I'm from the west and this is horrifying

我来自西方,这太可怕了。

FractionalEngineer
Delhi is like this due to the shit spoilt brats that come here from neighbouring states (not all are shit spoilt brats, but so far I have had a 50-50 ratio). No way to send them back tbh

德里之所以是这样,是因为来自相邻邦的被宠坏的孩子(并非所有人都是被宠坏的孩子,但到目前为止,我认为比例是50-50)。老实说根本没办法把他们送回去。

ksg-_-2
I live in delhi , and trust me Delhi is ruined by the migrants from other states. They just keep spitting like they fookin spitting machines in their mouths, ffs, original delhites are now so less in numbers can't even tell you majority of the population of delhi is migrants from bihar, up. No hate for them but they just treat delhi like their fookin village, keep pissing and spitting everywhere they go. What can govt do when majority of the people is not proper delhite, and just do want to follow rules and regulations. Those migrants are just vote banks for every other political part as well.

我住在德里,相信我,德里已经被其他邦的移民毁了。他们一刻不停地随地吐痰,就像他们嘴里他妈的装着一台吐痰机器一样。老德里人现在数量太少了,甚至不能告诉你德里的大多数人是来自比哈尔邦、北方邦的移民。我不讨厌他们,但他们简直把德里当成自己的乡下,到处随地小便。当大多数人都不是正派的德里人,不想遵守规章制度时,政府能做什么呢? 这些移民也只是所有其他政治团体的票仓。

AnimalsnGeography
I have stopover there to go to my home state it’s horrible there my taxi driver legit scammed a truck driver

我途经那里回我的家乡,那里太可怕了,我坐的出租车司机竟然骗了一个卡车司机。

Extreme_Stuff2
They need a BATMAN lol

他们需要一个百特曼,哈哈。

Airballed
Hey I'm an American man and I'm wondering where you would go if you were me

嘿,我是一个美国男人,我想知道如果你是我,你会去哪里。
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Dinilddp
Goa, North East, Kerala, Andaman Islands, lakshadweep islands, Tamil Nadu, jammu Kashmir, ladakh, Himachal Pradesh, uttarakhand, Sikkim, rajas than, gujrat, Karnataka ancient ruins, Maharashtra caves and ruins,

果阿邦、东北邦、喀拉拉邦、安达曼群岛、拉克沙群岛、泰米尔纳德邦、查谟克什米尔、拉达克、喜马偕尔邦、北阿坎德邦、锡金、拉贾斯丹邦、古吉拉特邦、卡纳塔克邦古代遗址、马哈拉施特拉邦洞穴和遗址、
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Airballed
Thank you ) I really appreciate it. Any time of year in particular

谢谢。我真的很感激。一年中的任何时候都可以吗?
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Dinilddp
That i can't tell you because it varies with mansoon and mansoon is different in each states. Also winter in certain states are really harsh to the point it can't travel because of the snow. At the same time in other states winter is really hot so you can't travel because of the heat. So better to do a research and plan. You can just Google each states i have mentioned and find out the best time.

这个我说不出,因为有雨季,每个邦都不一样。此外,某些邦的冬天非常严酷,因为下雪,无法行驶。与此同时,其他邦的冬天非常热,所以因为太热而无法旅行。所以最好研究一下制定一个计划。你可以在谷歌上搜索我提到的每个邦,找出最佳时间。

Airballed
Gotcha, thanks again. I've always been fascinated by India and I'm excited to visit

明白了,再次感谢。我一直对印度着迷,我很高兴能去印度,

Affectionate_Show_24
In Delhi even boys feel unsafe

在德里,连男孩都感到不安全,

AlternativeAd4
Actually we can’t escape by making a joke.. Women are unsafe in large parts of ’cow belt’.

其实我们逃不掉开玩笑。在“牛带”的大部分地区,妇女是不安全的。

memclean
Cow belt, haha that’s a good one

牛带,哈哈,这个笑话好。

FractionalEngineer
Its the best representation actually

它实际上是最好的代表。

Nocturnal_Sociopath
What's cow belt

什么是牛带?

booboo_baabaa
Haryana, Rajasthan, Delhi, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, uttar pradesh

哈里亚纳邦,拉贾斯坦邦,德里,中央邦,比哈尔,北方邦。

Nice_Midnight
Area where predominantly Hindi speaking people live in North and Central India, who are under developed with respect to rest of the country and notable with high presence of Hindu nationalism.

印度北部和中部地区的人绝大多数讲印地语,与该国其他地区相比,这些地区欠发达,并以印度教民族主义的高度存在而闻名。

Fun-Investigator-
Bro not just Delhi, in Chennai I had this guy in my university class fucking stare at me all the time, I got creeped out man..i think he was gay

兄弟,不仅仅是德里,在金奈,我大学班上有个家伙一直盯着我看,我被吓到了,我觉得他是基佬。

iNamedMyselfVeer
That guy is from Delhi

那家伙来自德里。

Fun-Investigator-
He was from Chennai. Generally you'd get stared at from people because I look Asian but this guy was fuckin creepy man. He would follow me around campus sometimes. Sometimes appear out of nowhere in the dark. Gives me the hibeey jibeez. Just a weird guy.

他来自金奈。一般来说,人们会盯着我看,因为我长得像亚洲人,但这家伙太他妈恐怖了。他有时会在校园里跟着我。有时在黑暗中不知从哪里冒出来。让我很不舒服。真是个奇怪的家伙。

flywithoutwings
Coz that's how love is portrayed in Tamil movies. Hero would just stare at the heroine, follow her everywhere and she will eventually fall in love with him

因为泰米尔电影就是这样描绘爱情的。男主角一直盯着女主角,跟着她到处走,最终她会爱上他。

TheNextGamer21
We are Asian, or do you look a different type of Asian (not trying to be racist)

我们就是亚洲人,或者你看起来是另类的亚洲人(我不想显得像个种族主义者)。
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OHKNOCKOUT
he meanst east asian so any asian besides middle eastern and desi.

他指的是东亚,也就是除了中东和印度以外的任何亚洲人。

Kancha_Cheena
Do you think he might have mistaken you for being gay

你觉得他会不会把你当成基佬了。

timgoes2somalia
Post about women being harassed by men
What about the men!!'

在一个关于女性被男性骚扰的帖子里:
“那男人呢!!”

DesperateGuide4
I'm a man but I'm rational too. Lemme teach you something I N C E L -

我是个男人,但我也很理性。让我教你一个乖:

Almost every woman can be over-powered by a man (except if she's quite athletic and the guy is like you)

几乎每个女人都能被男人压倒(除非她很健壮,而那个男人像你一样)。

Thats why almost every rape case have a female as a victim.

这就是为什么几乎每一起强奸案都有一名女性受害者。

A female victim can be impregnated by the rapist whereas a male victim can't be.

女性受害者可以被强奸犯致孕,而男性受害者则不能。

As we live in a feudal society, a woman is much more likely to be defamed by the usage of slander and sexually coloured remarks, whereas if the reverse happens then the woman is considered as too open, class-less and the fingers are pointed at her because WE LIVE IN A FEUDAL SOCIETY.

因为我们生活在一个封建社会,女人更有可能被诽谤和性色彩的言论所诽谤,而如果相反的情况发生,那么这个女人就会被认为是太开放,没有品位,并且遭到指责,因为我们生活在一个封建社会。

Even Female harassementrape victims are boycotted by the society of backward folks of Cow belt, forget marriage, even relatives ignore.

连女性性骚扰的受害者都被牛带的落后乡亲社会抵制,别说婚姻,连亲戚都不会理睬她。

Thats why hurting the dignity of a woman is a criminal offence under IPC section 509.

这就是为什么根据IPC第509条,伤害女性的尊严是刑事犯罪。

Indian Females are the regular victims of stalking, its even a criminal offence. You wanna know why men stalk, because we live in a backward society with unsafeillegal (un)romantic gestures.

印度女性是跟踪的常见受害者,这甚至是一种刑事犯罪。你想知道为什么男人跟踪,因为我们生活在一个落后的社会,有不安全的,非法的(不)浪漫的举动。

Capital-Moose
bro, he was being sarcastic and mocking the very same people you made the comment for. But good effort comment.

兄弟,他是在讽刺和嘲笑你评论的那个人。但是这个评论很努力。

KingQualitysLastPost
It wasn’t “but what about” it was “and even”. Because men aren’t typically seen as targets for sexual harassment, to say even boys don’t feel safe is just an expression of how bad it is. Surely you saw this.

不是"但是",而是"甚至"。因为男性通常不被视为性骚扰的目标,所以说“即使是男孩也感到不安全”只是对情况糟糕程度的一种表达。你肯定明白的。

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