“70小时工作制”建议震惊印度!为与中国竞争,印度年轻人必须加班?(一)
2023-11-14 不要可乐 9411
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印孚瑟斯创始人Narayana Murthy在与印孚瑟斯前首席财务官Mohandas派的对话中鼓励印度年轻人提高生产力,每周工作70小时,以促进印度的进步。Murthy强调了从西方学习积极习惯并为国家发展做出贡献的重要性。

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@krishSundar
Sir I worked in Japan, Germany , USA on average of 2 years each.
And in india for 13 years
- Indians work hard among all and no doubt about it.
- We are quick to adapt technology among all.
- We have a massive problem of unemployable youth with no skills or understanding of professional skills
- we lack a political system which rewards hardwork and honest tax payers and with a skewed tax system.
- we have the worst cities of all developing economies and rather these are unliveable .

先生,我在日本、德国和美国平均每个地方工作了2年,在印度工作了13年。
-在所有国家中,毫无疑问是印度人工作最努力。
-我们在所有国家中最快适应技术。
-我们面临着大量年轻人缺乏就业技能或专业技能的严重问题。
-我们缺乏一个奖励辛勤工作和诚实纳税人的政治体系,并且税收体系存在严重偏差。
-我们拥有所有发展中国家中最糟糕的城市,这些城市几乎是无法居住的。

Solutions:
Work on improving the Medicare for all as it reduces the craving for amassing for a large number of people .
Have ethical system of taxation and bring more unaccounted income under tax to encourage investment.
Bring honest reforms to police , judiciary and land use to have a proper manufacturing base and ready to wait 15 years to 20 years to bear fruits.

解决方案:
致力于改善全民医保制度,因为这可以减少大量人们对财富积累的渴望。
建立道德税收制度,将更多的不记名收入纳入税收范围,以鼓励投资。
对警察、司法和土地使用进行诚实的改革,建立稳固的制造业基础,并愿意等待15至20年来收获成果。

@viralvideocenter0909
In China, the standard workweek is typically 5 days, with an 8-hour workday. This means that the average workweek in China is 40 hours, similar to many other countries. However, it's worth noting that actual working hours can vary depending on the industry, company, and individual employment contracts. Some jobs may have longer or irregular working hours, while others may have shorter workweeks.

在中国,标准的工作周通常是5天,每天工作8小时。这意味着中国的平均工作周为40小时,与许多其他国家类似。然而,实际的工作时间会根据行业、公司和个人的雇佣合同而有所不同。有些工作可能有更长或不规律的工作时间,而其他工作可能有较短的工作周。
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@RakeshKumar-zw2wb
Instead of increasing work hours per employees, companies should increase their shift and provide more employment opportunities to youths

相比增加员工的工作时间,公司应该增加轮班制度,为年轻人提供更多的就业机会。

@Vinay_Mishra.
Yes, We can increase the working hours with some changes.
1). Provide salary on weekly basis ( if possible on the basis of working hour) instead of monthly basis.
2). Increase salary of employees.
3). Working hours should be 8+3 hour.
4). Extra 3 hours should not be mandatory for all employees.
5). Pay extra for extra 3 hours.
6). Provide proper infrastructure, environment and health condition for working of 11 hours in a day.
If you have any suggestions we welcome you.

是的,我们可以增加工作时间,但需要做一些改变。
1.按周发放工资(如果可能的话,根据工作小时数),而不是按月发放。
2.增加员工的薪水。
3.工作时间应为每天8小时加3小时。
4.额外的3小时不应是对所有员工强制性的。
5.为额外的3小时支付额外报酬。
6.为员工提供适当的基础设施、工作环境和健康条件,以保证他们每天能够工作11个小时。
生产力并不取决于工作时间,而是取决于技能、学习、无压力的心态、摆脱疲劳、对高薪资的激情工作等因素。

@shreekantsamdarshi878
Productivity doesn't depend on working hours it depends on skills, learnings , stress free mind , free from tiredness, motivation for good package of salaries, passionate works etc.

生产力不取决于工作时间,而取决于技能、学习、无压力的心态、不感到疲倦、对高薪酬的动力和对工作的热情等。
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@manirajsingh2518
You've highlighted a common issue in the Indian work culture, where long working hours are often expected, but there can be disparities in compensation. The gap in monetary benefits between different levels of employees is indeed a concern and can contribute to inequality. To address these issues, it's crucial for employees to collectively advocate for fair compensation and better work-life balance. Additionally, organizations can consider implementing policies that promote equitable pay and work hours, and the government can play a role in setting labor standards and regulations to ensure a more balanced work environment. It's a complex issue that requires the involvement of multiple stakeholders to bring about change.

你强调了印度工作文化中的一个普遍问题,即通常需要长时间工作,但薪酬存在不平等。不同级别员工之间的经济福利差距确实令人担忧,可能导致不公平。为解决这些问题,员工共同倡导公平薪酬和更好的工作与生活平衡至关重要。此外,组织可以考虑实施促进公平薪酬和工作时间的政策,政府可以在制定劳工标准和法规方面发挥作用,以确保更加平衡的工作环境。这是一个复杂的问题,需要多方参与才能带来改变。

@satyamkeshri1825
I am a senior employee and even I was annoyed by working 9 hr for 6 days, I think what we Indian should learn is to be more productive qualitatively and not focus more on quantity.

我是一名资深员工,甚至我也曾对每周工作6天、每天工作9小时感到恼火。我认为我们印度人应该学会更注重质量,而不是更注重数量,以提高生产力。

@ottynaveen
8X8x8 is the perfect rule. 8 hours work, 8 hours Sleep , 8 hours family life (includes commute to work, getting ready for work as well) is the perfect work life balance to increase productivity. Compromising anything in this will definitely impact the employee's health (mental and physical) and will lead to decreased productivity.

8X8x8是完美的准则。8小时工作,8小时睡眠,8小时家庭生活(包括上下班通勤和准备上班时间)是提高生产力的完美工作与生活平衡。在这其中做任何妥协都肯定会影响员工的健康(身体和心理),并导致生产力下降。

@mprajwalkini
As an employee, I feel that instead of increasing the work hours, just use automation to do the recurring tasks while letting employees work on more productive work. Just this is enough to boost the progress in the work done for the company at lower working hours.

作为一名员工,我觉得与其增加工作时间,不如利用自动化技术来处理重复性任务,让员工从事更有生产力的工作。仅凭这一点就足以在较少的工作时间内推动公司的工作进展。

@user-do2ti7et6d
I lived and worked in Singapore for more than a decade, it was 40 hours work week and if you are asked to work more employer had to pay double per hour and that had a cap till maximum of 35 hours of overtime, which is 40 + 35 =75 hours a week. It was illegal to work more than 75 hours a week. I think it is an excellent solution to the work week problem.

我在新加坡生活和工作了十多年,那里的工作周是40小时,如果要求加班,雇主必须支付双倍工资,并且最多只能加班35小时,也就是40小时加35小时等于每周75小时。超过每周75小时工作是违法的。我认为这是解决工作周问题的绝佳方案。

@rajatsingh-iu3sy
I am an IT Engg. and We have a 5 day work week in my organisation. 2 days off helps me in rejuvenation, self growth and to give sometime to my family and friends . We follow 45 hr work week. It's time to give more efforts in increasing productivity instead of work time.

我是一名IT工程师,在我们公司,我们实行5天工作制。两天的休息时间有助于我恢复活力,自我成长,并且有时间花在家人和朋友身上。我们每周工作45小时。现在是时候更加努力地提高生产率,而不是增加工作时间。

@vikasdwivedi619
I'm a manager at Accenture India, and the video's details align with my experience. I currently work 50 hours a week, but I'm willing to work 70 hours if I'm compensated for the extra hours "fairly".

我在印度埃森哲担任经理,视频中的细节与我的经验相吻合。我目前每周工作50小时,但如果能公平地得到额外工作时间的补偿,我愿意工作70小时。

@ashishpandey9868
Productivity is a myth, it always increases but when it comes to paying scale organizations show loss by buying assets and investment.

生产力是一个神话,它总是在增加,但当涉及到支付薪资时,组织却通过购买资产和投资来显示亏损。

@user-ez2jv8pd5x
As an IT employee, I can attest that in service-based IT companies heavily reliant on European and US markets, working smarter, not harder, is imperative for transforming our economy. These companies often hire employees at lower costs while daily living expenses continue to soar.

作为一名IT员工,我可以证实,在服务型IT公司中,对欧洲和美国市场严重依赖的情况下,工作更聪明而不是更辛苦对于转变我们的经济至关重要。这些公司往往以较低成本雇佣员工,而日常生活开支却不断上涨。

@Muskan11045
I feel that work hours per week in India are already enough. There is absolutely no need to increase it. However, the need of the hour is to increase productivity of our workforce.

我觉得印度每周的工作时间已经足够了。完全没有必要增加工作时间。然而,当务之急是提高我们劳动力的生产率。

@official_adarshtiwari
Yes . India's pay scale is very poor .
My dad goes for office from morning 8AM and returns around at 10PM ( around whopping 14 hours ) . He works 6 days a week and even on Sundays sometimes . It's really matter of worry .
He is civil engineer and when I asked why he works so much ? He simply replied - that's what his company ask !! If he would work less, he would be expelled .

是的。印度的薪酬水平非常低。我爸爸早上8点出门上班,晚上10点左右才回家(长达14个小时)。他一周工作6天,有时甚至周日也要工作。这真的令人担忧。 他是一名土木工程师,当我问他为什么要工作这么久时,他简单地回答说-这是公司要求的!如果他工作时间减少了,他就会被开除。

@user-dm1lx6vk2j
Officially working hours are 9hrs/day but in reality the work pressure and unrealistic deadlines to complete a project made working hours more than 70hrs. And at the time of salary hike, these Service Institutions only raise 8-10% of hike of the salary provided.

官方工作时间是每天9小时,但实际上工作压力和不切实际的项目完成期限使工作时间超过70个小时。而在涨工资时,服务机构只提高8-10%的薪资。

@maheshkhatri8812
I live outside India for work, and I am a banker. I hold more than 9 years of experience, but last year when I came to India and thought of settling down. I gave interviews at a few places. To my surprise I was offered a smaller package with an annual salary of 6 lakhs. When I asked them why the package so low, the answer surprised me. They said I will be considering fresher in this market and that the company has to invest in training you from scratch. Working hours is not the major issue. The concern is what we get paid. The person will not be motivated to come and work for them.

我在印度以外的地方工作,我是一名银行家。我有超过9年的工作经验,但去年当我回到印度并考虑在这里定居时,我在几家地方面试。令我惊讶的是,他们给我的薪资待遇很低,年薪只有6万元。当我问他们为什么薪资这么低时,答案让我吃惊。他们说在这个市场上他们会把我视为新手,并且公司需要从零开始投资培训我。工作时间并不是主要问题。问题在于我们的薪酬待遇。员工不会有动力来为他们工作。

@vishwakarma.daviid
6 or 7 hours should be work hours per day. It'll lead to a good and healthy mental life of people. A good and healthy mental life will increase productivity else they'll be trapped in a web from where most of us won't be able to escape.People are already suffering in the corporate sector due to the excessive amount of work and pressure

每天工作6或7个小时应该足够了。这将导致人们有良好和健康的心态生活。良好和健康的心态生活将提高生产力,否则他们将会被困在一个大部分人无法逃脱的困境中。人们已经因为过多的工作和压力而在公司里受苦。

@VidhanMaheshwary24
I believe 54 hours of work week would be ideal to enhance the productivity and provide human centric solutions. 9 hours of work, 8 hours of personal chores and space and 7 hours of sleep is the ideal solution. The obxtive behind rejecting respected Naryana Murthy sir's envisaged work week is that time to family members, friends and other significant others is extremely important for a human as the corporate will not come to protect its so called employee when it encounter health problems in life.

我相信每周工作54小时将是理想的,可以提高生产力并提供以人为本的解决方案。每天工作9小时,8小时用于个人琐事和空间,7小时用于睡眠,这是理想的安排。拒绝尊敬的Naryana Murthy先生设想的工作周制度的目标在于认为与家人、朋友和其他重要人士共度时光对人类至关重要,因为当员工在生活中遇到健康问题时,公司并不会来保护所谓的员工。

@vedharshwardhan8203
Rather than increasing the work timings we as the most populous country should employ more people and let them work in short shifts which will help increasing the productivity of our companies and at the same time they will be able to manage their work-life balance

与其增加工作时间,我们作为人口最多的国家应该雇佣更多人,让他们进行短时工作,这样可以提高公司的生产力,同时也能够平衡工作与生活

@shubhasisghosh1297
In my opinion work time should be 48 hrs per week . And companies should Give importance in freshers recruitment process, Incentives evey year on basis like top level directors , and most importantly they should give mental relief and encouragement by all the incentives then the Employees will be loyal more and the productivity will increase massively, That's it my side .

在我看来,每周工作时间应该是48小时。公司应该在新人招聘过程中给予重视,在奖励方面每年按照高级主管的水平进行,最重要的是他们应该通过各种激励措施来给予精神上的放松和鼓励,员工将更加忠诚,生产力将大幅提高,就是这样。

@gyanprakashsingh4480
No need to increase work hours just maintain 40 -42 hours per week and then we have to motivate to our work force to do work with productivity and also we have to give incentive to workers like medical, education and others things and also at same time we have to increase the salary of work force like CEO of the any private company

没有必要增加工作时间,只需要保持每周40-42小时,然后我们需要激励我们的劳动力以提高生产力,同时我们需要给予员工医疗、教育等方面的激励,同时还需要增加劳动力的工资,就像私营公司的首席执行官一样。

@princejoshi4281
Instead increasing the working hours, we should increase workforce to boost productivity

与其增加工作时间,我们应该增加劳动力以提升生产力。

@anonymous-vk8fo
Instead of increasing the work week. I believe companies should allot 10-15 of week on more skill sharpening. This will bring satisfaction in the employees that they are learning something new. And this skills will automatically increase productivity and revenue per employee.

与其增加工作周,我认为公司应该将每周安排10-15小时用于技能磨练。这将给员工带来满足感,因为他们正在学习新的技能。这些技能将自动提高生产力和员工的收入。

@NativeVsColonial
During High School, our Schooling time was of 6Hrs (from 11AM TO 5PM)
So we should make 6Hrs minimum work time in Jobs too, and that makes 36Hrs in 6Days, all very balanced and much needed for to develop a country like India

在高中时,我们的上课时间是6小时(上午11点到下午5点)。所以我们应该把最低工作时间定为6小时,这样一周就是36小时,这对印度这样的国家的发展非常平衡和非常必要

@newsupxe2522
Medical line - 12 hr per day x 7 = 84 hr in a week.
Other line - 9.5 hr per day x 6 = 57 hr per week
On average - 70.5 hr per week
Salary matter for working hours

医疗行业 - 每天12小时 x 7 = 一周84小时。
其他行业 - 每天9.5小时 x 6 = 一周57小时。
平均 - 每周70.5小时。
薪水与工作时间有关。

@satirthapattnaik5006
India exports IT service to Europe and the USA. Those economies are either shrinking or growing at a slower rate. Ultimately, this will decrease the overall revenue of Indian IT giants and hence revenue per employee decreases. Then Employees cannot be blamed for this.

印度向欧洲和美国出口IT服务。这些经济体要么正在萎缩,要么增长速度较慢。最终,这将降低印度IT巨头的总收入,从而降低每位员工的收入。员工们并不应该为此受到责备。

@bharath2508
Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Luxembourg and Denmark work for 7 hours a day for 4 days a week.
28 hours or max of 30 is maximum.

挪威、瑞典、芬兰、荷兰、卢森堡和丹麦每天工作7小时,一周工作4天。 每周工作时间为28小时或最多30小时。

@arindamdutta6308
we can work 70 hrs even 100 hours in our own office own business. Not in someone else's business.

我们可以在自己的办公室里工作70个小时,甚至100个小时。而不是在别人的企业里。

@pavanrank4878
India Workculture = Overtime + Sunday Office + No Festival Holiday + Less Target Less Salary + Always Support Boss = No Salary On Time And Less Salary Motivate for Self Mini Business or Farming..

印度的工作文化 = 加班 + 周日加班 + 没有节假日 + 较低的目标和薪水 + 一直支持老板 = 薪水不准时而且较低 鼓励自己创业或务农。

@SR00007
We should work 120hrs to build our dream, not by working 70 hrs for building someone else dream.

我们应该工作120小时来实现我们的梦想,而不是工作70小时来实现别人的梦想。

@user-int-ai-dat-sys
Indian Govt. must ensure to provide free education, healthcare, mandatory pension, child benefits, road infrastructure etc. before thinking fo increase already streased work hours.

印度政府必须确保在考虑增加已经很紧张的工作时间之前,提供免费教育、医疗保健、强制性养老金、儿童福利、道路基础设施等。

@SanjeevKumar-mu2nq
Railway board thinks about to increase facilities of passangers but doesn't provide basic facilities to staff. 12 hrs roster, 7 night roster, without pointsman duty everything is inhuman. It seems they have no responsibility for the grassroot workers.

铁路局考虑增加乘客的便利设施,但并未为员工提供基本设施。12小时轮班,7天夜班轮班,没有扳道工职责,这一切都是不人道的。他们似乎对基层工人没有责任感。

@sarthakghormade5263
Companies in modern Countries calculate profit After spending sufficient and satisfactory amount on
1) Research and Development 2) Adequate and reasonable Salaries to every employee from bottom post to top most post
3) Proper Infrastructure and Facilities.
And then they declare there Y-O-Y increase in profit percentage whereas in India all companies are running by only one method that is cheap labour and cost cutting in every field and how can we remain profitable just to sustain our stock prices after every quarter results.... That's it.

现代国家的公司会在: 1)研发上投入足够和令人满意的金额 2)为每位员工从最低职位到最高职位提供合适和合理的工资 3)提供适当的基础设施和设施 然后他们宣布他们的年度盈利增长百分比,而在印度,所有公司都只按照一种方法运作,即廉价劳动力和在各个领域削减成本,我们如何在每个季度的业绩公布后保持盈利,以维持我们的股价……就是这样。
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@ankithariname2978
The reason why the youth is in such a hurry to leave India is because one can earn triple the money for the same or less amount of effort abroad. I work in the aviation sector and we already work 12 or more hours a day but our salaries are a pittance compared to foreign airlines. India will have to raise salaries drastically if it wishes to retain the talent of young professionals

年轻人匆忙离开印度的原因是因为在国外,同样或更少的努力可以赚取三倍的薪水。我在航空业工作,我们每天已经工作12小时甚至更长时间,但与外国航空公司相比,我们的薪水微不足道。如果印度希望留住年轻专业人才,就必须大幅提高薪水。

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