印度军迷如何看待印度阅兵中的摩托车特技表演？“让我们在国际舞台上看起来像马戏团一样”
正文翻译
Man please stop this!
原标题：天呐，求别搞这个了吧！
I was soo proud watching Bhairav Battalions and Siachen Brigade doing their hell march.
看到 Bhairav 营和锡亚琴旅进行地狱行军，我真是无比自豪。
Then, these guys showed up and I instantly shut my TV.
接着，这帮家伙一出现，我就立马关掉了电视。
原标题：天呐，求别搞这个了吧！
I was soo proud watching Bhairav Battalions and Siachen Brigade doing their hell march.
看到 Bhairav 营和锡亚琴旅进行地狱行军，我真是无比自豪。
Then, these guys showed up and I instantly shut my TV.
接着，这帮家伙一出现，我就立马关掉了电视。
评论翻译
Opposite_Ad5159
The lady on the commentary panel was NOT STOPping.
那个评论席上的女士根本不停嘴。
TheRealSlim_KD
If at all anything should be stopped, it's should be those effing comentators. Really somone should shut them the eff up.
要说该停的，绝对是那些该死的评论员。真该有人让他们彻底闭嘴。
FatherCoconut
You are not the target audience for this. The target audience is people who have no real knowledge of what happens in defense. They see this and find it cool because it has stunts in it. I remember watching these as a kid and thinking it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen in my life, and I wasn’t really interested in those marches.
你可不是这节目的目标受众。目标群体是那些对国防事务一窍不通的人。他们看着觉得酷，因为有特技表演在里面。我小时候看这些节目时，也觉得那是我这辈子见过最酷的东西，对当时的那些阅兵式其实也没多大兴趣。
Longjumping_Swim_767
Military parade isn't just for defence nerds to jack of too. This is something unique which we have and I was there for the parade rehearsals and trust me seeing this in person and looking at the crowd everyone went crazy for them. It takes a lot of physical effort and synergy to perform all of this.
军事阅兵不只是供防务爱好者满足的表演。这是我们国家特有的一项活动，我亲眼见证了阅兵彩排现场，请相信我，当亲身看到这一切，望着周围为阅兵队伍而沸腾的群众，那种体验令人震撼。要完成所有动作，需要付出极大的体能和团队协作。
quasar_i
The concept of military parades itself is inherently flawed. A serious, professional military doesn't need to show off its men and equipment to project strength. However, I do admit that parades have become a part of the military culture in former Soviet block and socialist countries but these bike stunts are beyond stupid. They have the same energy as dictatorships displaying martial arts, breaking stuff with head, fire stunts etc., in their military parades.
阅兵仪式本身在概念上就存在根本缺陷。一支严肃专业的军队无需通过展示人员与装备来彰显实力。不过，我承认阅兵已成为前苏联阵营及SH主义国家军事文化的一部分，但那些摩托车特技表演简直荒谬透顶。这类表演与专制国家在阅兵式中展示武术、头碎硬物、火焰特技等项目如出一辙。
Our military men are not circus performers, don't treat them as such.
我们的军人不是马戏团演员，请勿如此对待他们。
GHOST-GAMERZ
Like the US which doesn't do it but did it last year because Trump wanted it.
就像美国通常不举行阅兵，去年却因特朗普的要求而破例举办。
And other countries also host parades like Italy, France, Argentina, Brazil and Columbia
其他国家如意大利、法国、阿根廷、巴西和哥伦比亚也会举办阅兵式
Doubt_full_
I disagree. It is a show of displine and unity. It's meant to reinforce confidence in the public and create positive impact. Parades were part of most traditional royal armies for this reason. It was ceremonial and each country had it's own unique traditions and practices.
我不同意你的看法。这是一种纪律与团结的展示，旨在增强公众信心并产生积极影响。正因如此，阅兵曾是多数传统皇家军队的组成部分。它承载仪式功能，每个国家都有其独特的传统与操演方式。
Though I was never a fan of these stunts the young me always wonderd how this was possible and it was a curiosity. So it has it's own charm.
虽然我从来不是这类高难度表演的粉丝，但年少时的我总好奇这是如何做到的，这种好奇心本身也具有独特魅力。
I hate the insane floats and dances during the Republic day parade more.
我更反感共和国日阅兵中那些夸张的花车和舞蹈表演。
ComradeTrot
Military parades became staple not only in Soviet block but also pioneered by Britain and Germany since 19th century. It's part of great power projection. Interestingly USA, Israel etc were never big on parades.
军事阅兵不仅在苏联阵营成为传统，自 19 世纪起也在英国和德国率先兴起。这是大国力量展示的一部分。有趣的是，美国、以色列等国从未热衷于此。
throwaway44221114
Just. No.
根本，不认同。
The-playful-Bird
Consider example of latest us army parade which people laughed for their simplicity and now, their venezuela operation showed their might & capability.I don't get the purpose of circus type stunts in a military parade.
以最近的美军阅兵为例，人们曾因其简约而发笑，但如今他们在委内瑞拉的行动展现了其实力与能力。我不理解在军事阅兵中表演马戏式特技的意义。
gaitondi
I see, you might be correct on this as you were their on ground but just my personal opinion as a professional army we could just refrain from this stunt demonstrations but I understand as i was watching this on TV and the lady with her weird commentary made it look and sound quiet quirky so i might be in the wrong but thank you for pointing out.
我明白了，鉴于你在现场，你的观点可能有道理。不过就我个人的看法，作为一支专业军队，我们或许可以避免这类特技表演。但我理解你的立场，毕竟我是通过电视观看的，那位女士古怪的解说让整个场面显得相当离奇——或许是我的判断有误，但感谢你的指正。
Longjumping_Swim_767
You are right to feel so. What if I told you there were madras regiment troops in lungi playing traditional drums with sunglasses on without a top and dancing and marching. It's all part of the show bhai. Even I'd like to see sci fi gear laden army parade without any other demonstration, but it is what it is and it's good. ( We don't need to copy anyone else) India has the best parades.
你会有这种感觉是正常的。如果我说曾有马德拉斯军团的士兵身着笼基、戴着墨镜光着膀子，一边敲打传统鼓点一边跳舞行进，你作何感想？这都是表演的一部分嘛，兄弟。虽然我也很想看充满科幻装备的纯军种阅兵式，但现状就是这样，而且也挺好的（我们无需模仿任何人）。印度拥有最棒的阅兵式。
WonFont
Sorry, people can downvote me all they want, but stunts are for stuntmen. Parades are meant for interaction between the military and civilians. You might not know, but a lot of people in the military dislike this more than we do.
抱歉，大家可以随便点踩，但特技表演应该留给特技演员。阅兵式的意义在于军民互动。你可能不知道，其实军队里反感这种表演的人比我们更多。
The Indian public gets excited about many things, but that doesn’t mean our troopers need to ride bikes with 100 people standing on top of them. These circus tricks are pathetic. I hope we end them soon. I truly mean no offence.
印度民众确实容易为各种事物兴奋，但这不意味着我们的军人就得表演百人叠罗汉的摩托车特技。这类马戏团式的把戏实在令人尴尬。希望我们能早日终止这些表演。我绝无冒犯之意。
gaitondi
True that brother.
说得对，兄弟。
manek101
People cheering for this lead to those KTM riding hooligans having increased popularity as well.
人们为此欢呼，也让那些骑 KTM 的流氓随之声名鹊起。
Those 'chappri' KTM bike stunts also have an audience that is 'crazy', doesn't mean it belongs in a civil society.
那些“俗气”的 KTM 摩托车特技也有“疯狂”的观众群，但这并不意味着它们适合出现在文明社会中。
Longjumping_Swim_767
Worst opinion or comparison you could give. Stunt shows in a closed environment exist and have a crowd and a turnout. And guess what they even had apache RTR bikes and they were doing wheelies. I hope you are being sarcastic or idk what conservative drill instructor you are, who is butthurt by seeing stunts with all safety equipment in a closed environment.
这是你能给出的最差意见或类比了。在封闭环境中进行的特技表演一直存在，并且拥有观众和参与度。你猜怎么着？他们甚至使用了阿帕奇 RTR 摩托车表演翘头特技。我希望你是在讽刺，或者我实在不明白你到底是哪门子保守的教官，看到全副安全装备的人在封闭环境里表演特技居然会如此不爽。
WonFont
Hard facts.
铁打的事实。
-bonkster
Ok I will copy past something i have discussed ealier in other forum regarding why these stunts are done in Independence day and is qn insult to the army personnels
好的，我将复制粘贴我在其他论坛上早先讨论过的内容，关于为什么这些特技表演要在独立日进行，以及这是否是对军人的一种侮辱
Alright let me put my opinion into this,
好吧，让我说说我的看法，
First thing first army personnel love to participate in this cause they get a lot of off days from their usual duty and a certain amount of allowance is provided for this.
首先，军队人员特别喜欢参与这类活动，因为他们能因此获得很多休息日，还有一定的津贴补助。
On the independence day parade or republic day parade this has been a tradition for ages just cause the west or someone else doesn't do it, doesn't mean we too should not do it.
在独立日阅兵或共和国日阅兵中，这已经成为一项历史悠久的传统。我们不能仅仅因为西方国家或其他国家不这么做，就觉得自己也不应该做。
This parade also shows tableaus and ethnic and cultural stuff of different states which we Defo need to appreciate from time to time and what better stage to appreciate than this
这些阅兵还会展示各邦的花车以及丰富的民族和文化内容，这些都是我们肯定需要不时去欣赏和尊重的，而还有什么比这个舞台更好的呢。
These stunts might look cliche and cringe at times but let it be,you mentioned that you like this as a kid but now you don't . Exactly this could be a thing to get kids hooked up to the nation and make them a little bit patriotic and nationalistic(not much but yeah;at least this is a selling point). That thing at least worked with me cause my father made me watch at first then it was a tradition for me to watch the parade cause it has these things and I waited for my state to come on those tableaus.
这些表演有时可能显得老套甚至令人尴尬，但就随它去吧。你说小时候喜欢但现在不爱看了——可这正是吸引孩子们关注国家、培养些微爱国情怀（不必过度，但至少是个卖点）的方式。至少对我而言确实奏效，当初父亲带我看阅兵，后来观看游行成了我的传统节目，因为我总期待看到那些花车上展现家乡风采的瞬间。
Opportunity-Pale
Today's kids, especially boys would love to see actual power projection shit like Tanks, Drones, Fighter Jets, Missiles, etc. Not some circus stunts
如今的孩子们，尤其是男孩们，更想看到真正的力量展示：坦克、无人机、战斗机、导弹等等硬核装备。谁还稀罕那些马戏团式的杂耍呢？
TrxshyReddit
did you actually know about what missiles or jets or tanks we had/ how they work as a kid? As defense enthusiasts sure we feel these arent necessary but its just for the kids. Not that big of a deal
小时候你对我们有什么导弹、战机或坦克真的了解吗？知道它们是怎么运作的吗？作为国防爱好者，我们当然觉得这些没必要，但这只是给孩子看的，没什么大不了的。
earnestworkerbee
Today's kids and kids at our time are different
如今的孩子和我们那个年代的孩子不一样
Vildhorn
This.
就是。
AbhayOye
Dear OP, why do you want to stop this ? What is your exact obxtion to such demonstrations ?
楼主，你为什么要阻止这种事？你对这类表演到底有什么不满？
Medium-Photo-9938
cause some gora pakoras made fun of it on reddit
因为有些白人老外在 Reddit 上嘲笑了这事
Visible_Theme4482
Not on reddit, but on Facebook/Youtube by “ Ozzy Man reviews” and from there on all this started. I mean they watch “Reaction videos “ ♂️ what you expect? Of course gori chamdi validation is above all.
不是在 Reddit，而是在 Facebook/YouTube 上，由“Ozzy Man reviews”开始，然后所有事情就跟着发酵了。我是说他们看“观后感视频” 你还指望什么？当然，白人认可就是一切咯。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统就是从那些白人老外那里学来的啊，哈哈，而且这种技能怎么帮我们对抗中国？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统都是从所谓的"白人炸丸子"那儿学来的，哈哈。再说这技能怎么能帮我们对抗中国呢？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
ITS_TRIPZ_DAWG
I mean by that logic parades won't help either.
按这逻辑，阅兵也没用啊。
gaitondi
Hi sir, For me Army Day parade is supposed to be a Power demonstrations and showcasing new weapons and technologies which they did and i loved it. But these stunt demonstrations i have been seeing these since i was a kid and it always felt a bit quirky and in my personal opinion a professional army should refrain from these stunts.
先生您好，对我来说，建军节阅兵应当是力量展示和新式武器技术的亮相——他们确实做到了，这一点我非常赞赏。但这些特技表演我从小看到大，总觉得有点花哨。个人认为，一支专业的军队应当避免这类表演性质的项目。
PS: I see you are an IAF veteran. Sir, Huge respect and thank you for your service.
附言：注意到您是印度空军退役前辈。先生，在此向您致以崇高敬意，感谢您的无私奉献。
AbhayOye
Dear OP, any armed force's fighting ability depends upon its personnel, equipment and training. For personnel high skill levels play an intrinsic role lixed to morale. Add the use of their own equipment to this skill level and the morale rises even more. This morale is essential for valour, bravery and courage, in the face of odds and adversity.
亲爱的楼主，任何军队的作战能力都取决于其人员素质、装备水平和训练成果。对于人员而言，高超的技艺水平与士气有着内在关联。当军人能熟练运用自身装备时，这种士气将得到进一步提振。正是这种士气，铸就了面对逆境与挑战时不可或缺的英勇、果敢与无畏精神。
The basic human instinct to 'survive' is the anti thesis of the concept of 'sacrifice'. For an average human being to overcome the natural tendency of 'survival' and adopt 'sacrifice' requires supreme belief in oneself. This belief, like that demonstrated by successful sports teams, can make human beings do extraordinary things. To do this in war time, it needs to be encouraged in peace time.
人类“求生”的基本本能与“牺牲”这一概念背道而驰。一个普通人要克服“生存”的自然倾向，选择“牺牲”，需要极致的自我信念。这种信念，正如那些成功的体育队伍所展现的那样，能让人做出非凡之举。若要在战时做到这一点，必须在和平时期加以鼓励。
Demonstrations, parades and military rituals are a time tested part of inculcating the sense of supreme belief in one's own self, training and skill. Demonstrating such skill in public at nationally recognised occasions boosts morale, self belief and the adulation/encouragement received adds to a soldiers sense of value.
示威、阅兵和军事仪式，是历经时间考验的塑造个体对于自身、训练及技能的绝对信念的重要环节。在全国公认的场合公开展示这种技能，能够提振士气、增强自信，而民众的赞叹与鼓励则会进一步增添军人的价值感。
I hope you understand now, why the motorcycle 'stunts' are not just stunts but are a reflection of a soldier's internal belief in himself, his service and his nation.
我希望你现在明白了，为什么摩托车的"特技"不仅是表演，更是士兵内心对自己、对军旅生涯以及对国家信念的一种体现。
gaitondi
Thank you for your insight sir!
先生，感谢您的深刻见解！
dulcoflex
Goofy army will not be taken seriously, you want that sometimes. It puts a doubt in the adversary's minds.
滑稽的军队不会被人当真，但有时这正是你想要的。它能在对手心中种下疑虑的种子。
ContactOk1274
LMao looks like a big circus
哈哈，看起来像个大型马戏团。
manek101
Mainly because it sends the wrong message to the youth, glorifying stupid bike stunts.
主要是因为这会给年轻人传递错误信息，美化那些愚蠢的摩托车特技。
Then additionally it just simply looks stupid and doesn't even have anything to do with military combat. My question is why does it even exist in the first place???
此外，这看起来真的很傻，甚至与军事战斗毫无关系。我的问题是，这种东西到底为什么会存在？？？
stepped_in_some_shit
I don't get the problem with these. It's a tradition of our army. Next someone will say that making camels do marchpast is animal cruelty and shouldn't be done. I sometimes feel that most of the opposition to this comes from the same 'gora validation' problem, i.e., don't do this because goras on social media mock us for it.
我不明白这些批评的症结所在。这是我们军队的一项传统。接下来恐怕会有人指责让骆驼参加阅兵式是虐待动物、不该继续。有时我觉得，对此类事的反对声浪大多源于同样的问题——"白人认可焦虑"，也就是因为社交媒体上的西方人会嘲笑我们，所以就不该这么做。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统就是从那些白人老外那里学来的啊，哈哈，而且这种技能怎么帮我们对抗中国？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
stepped_in_some_shit
Well by that logic soldier marchpasts should be stopped as well as they are a relic of the past when marching discipline was an essential requirement of military action. If you haven't, go and watch the 'military parade' that the US Army did for Trump's birthday. Now no one can question the competency and professionalism of the US Army, but that parade was the saddest thing I've ever seen.
按照这个逻辑，士兵分列式也应该取消，因为那不过是行军纪律在军事行动中至关重要的旧时代遗风。要是没看过的话，建议去瞧瞧美军为特朗普生日举行的"阅兵式"。尽管无人能质疑美军的实力与专业素养，但那场阅兵实在是我见过最令人尴尬的场面。
I've been watching these parades for as long as I can remember, and I've watched parades of other countries like Russia and China. It's about spectacle, tradition and civil-military relations. These things are intrinsically unique to each country and society, and these 'stunts' are our quirk, nothing more, nothing less.
自我记事起就在观看这些阅兵式，也看过俄罗斯、中国等其他国家的阅兵。这关乎国家形象展示、传统传承以及军民关系的维系。每个国家和社会在这些方面都有其独特的内在特质，而我们这些"特技表演"正是印度特色的体现，仅此而已，别无深意。
This obsession with 'how it looks' needs to change tbh. We have a professional army that knows and does it's job well. Our parades, uniforms(I've seen a lot of criticism of those too), slogans, are a part of our military ethos. There's no need to change it just because it looks 'cringe' to a section of the population. I'm sure that if it starts to interfere with any actual military requirement, it'll be dropped without the need of any input from citizens.
说实话，这种对'看起来如何'的执念需要改变。我们拥有一支专业军队，他们清楚并出色地履行着职责。我们的阅兵、制服（我也见过不少对这些的批评）、口号，都是我们军队精神的一部分。仅仅因为一部分人觉得'尴尬'就改变它们并无必要。我相信，如果这开始影响到任何实际军事需求，军队自然会摒弃，无需民众操心。
ExtensionSearch6912
but why spinning like a while with binoculars? that seems a new inclusion and stupid to me.
但为什么转圈的时候还要拿着望远镜？这操作对我来说既陌生又蠢得可以。
gaitondi
Bro see it’s just my personal opinion Indian army could just refrain from this these kind of demonstrations and just stick to the Weapons and technology demonstrations which they did beautifully specially the Pinaka rocket system and Akash missile rolling down the street and Camels are and always been an Asset for the Army and BSF specially in Republic day parade once i saw a camel march of BSF with Mortar system mounted on them, such a beauty!
哥们听我说，这只是我的个人观点，印度军队完全可以避免这类表演，专注于武器和技术的展示——他们在这方面做得相当出色，特别是“皮纳卡”火箭系统和“阿卡什”导弹在街头巡游的场景。而骆驼过去、现在、未来都将是军队尤其是边防军的宝贵资产。有次共和国日阅兵上，我见到边防军的骆驼队伍驮着迫击炮系统行进，那场面简直美得震撼！
PS: F*** the goras and their stupid validation.
附注：去他的西方佬和他们那套愚蠢的认可标准。
PN_STUDIOS
Why? This doesn't fit in ur "cool or matching camo mindset"? People enjoy these and it is a very different experience to see these live during parades. No need to stop these.
为什么？这不符合你“炫酷或迷彩至上”的思维模式？大家可是乐在其中，而且现场观看阅兵时体验完全不同。真没必要取消这些环节。
Dull_Refrigerator669
Why tho? I really enjoy them and I'm sure the armymen doing it also do. Have you seen our marching? No other army matches that in professionalism. I don't think we need to be serious all the time.
为什么这么想？我真的很喜欢这些表演，我相信执行这些任务的军人也同样乐在其中。你见过我们的阅兵式吗？论专业性，没有其他军队能与之媲美。我觉得我们没必要时时刻刻都板着脸。
Legitimate_Tip335
No other army matches that in professionalism? Have you ever watched pla's march? Or even DPRK's Army March?
别的军队在专业性上有哪个能比得过？你看过解放军的阅兵吗？甚至朝鲜人民军的阅兵看过吗？
Dull_Refrigerator669
Yes I have. Maybe there are 1-2 exceptions. But the point is we already have enough professionalism so it doesn't hurt to have a bit of fun
当然看过。也许存在那么一两个例外。但关键在于，我们的专业性已经足够强了，不妨让人家找点乐子嘛
Hefty-District-833
Man shut up and let people have their fun.
哥们儿，你省省吧，让别人开心开心怎么了。
Leviathn_Doom
You can shut off your TV but I don't want this to stop. It's fun and it's for the children. These stunts takes precision and confidence to pull it off with utmost discipline, all the qualities needed in an armed force.
你可以关掉电视，但我希望这不要停。这很有趣，也是为了孩子们。这些特技需要精准与自信才能完美执行，展现了最高程度的纪律性——而这正是一支军队所需的所有品质。
TheRealSlim_KD
All armies have adventure cells and one should assume this act comes from that quadrant. the soldiers doing these stunts out int their time in these 'departments' or 'cells' and then go back to active duty. they don't spend 15 years of their life doing stuff like this.
各军队都有冒险部门，人们应认为此类行为来自这个层面。士兵们在执行这些特技任务时，会暂时调入这些"部门"或"小组"，完成任务后便回归常规服役。他们不会把十五年的军旅生涯都花在这类行动上。
Enjoy the display of skill and let's move on.
欣赏这项技能展示就好，我们继续前进吧。
earnestworkerbee
It's like a beautiful ballet, /s
这就像一场优美的芭蕾舞，/s
Common_Sun_7416
This is one of the best parts of the parade, one of the high points, I don't get the hate.
这是阅兵中最精彩的部分之一，也是最高潮的亮点之一，我不明白为什么有人讨厌它。
SuaveSuar
As a kid, I used to watch with my heart in my mouth. Wishing they didn't fall or mess up. And they never did.
小时候，我总看得提心吊胆，生怕他们失误或摔下来。但他们从未失手。
Maybe kids now don't appreciate such stunts. If that is so, then i agree this can be scrapped.
也许现在的孩子们不再欣赏这类特技表演。如果是这样，那我也同意可以取消这个环节。
nhihorahipadhaibc
Atmanirbhar Wala
well it's unique that's why I have no problem with it.itlooks fun and goofy
它的独特之处正是我对此毫无异议的原因——看起来既有趣又有点滑稽搞笑。
Nexusdawn1021
These stunts belong in a circus, not a professional Army.
这些花招该留在马戏团，而不是专业军队。
missinima
cant respect anyone who's opinions are based of what cumskins think. i too don't liek this, but i dont't care if its there because they think its cringe
没法尊重那些看法是基于洋人怎么想的人。我也并不喜欢这个，但我不在乎它存在是因为他们认为这很尴尬
Fun-Corner-887
These parades are for general public. especially young kids. also the personnel themselves like doing it anyways. Think of it as a festival or celebration. It's a very family friendly event. You can see for yourself if you go. Kids love them.
这些阅兵是为了大众，尤其是小孩。而且军人自己也乐于参与。就当它是个节庆或庆祝活动，非常家庭友好。你去看看就知道了，孩子们都很喜欢。
Indian military parades were never about intimidation. It's more about having a fun time. God knows the rest of the year the military always has to be on combat mode dealing with our neighbors.
印度的阅兵从来不是为了威慑，更多是为了寻乐子。要知道一年到头军队都得处于备战状态应付我们周边的邻居。
bluemesa7
Agree, we need to stop these stupid stunts.
同意，我们是该停止这些愚蠢的作秀。
VettiMuruku
The only stunt I like is pyramid formation. Anything other than that seems ridiculous especially those spinning stunts.
唯一让我觉得带劲的是金字塔编队，其他的尤其是那些旋转特技，看起来都挺可笑的。
Soap-MacTavish3009
Bro they are Soldiers not stuntman, some stunts are indeed impressive but ones like rotating one with binoculars looks so cringe.
老兄，他们是士兵，不是特技演员，有些表演确实挺精彩的，但像拿望远镜转圈那种实在太尴尬了。
FrodoForgotTheRing
The stunt parade and the Wagah border drama with Pakistan have to be the most pointless spectacles ever carried out by the Indian Army—enthusiastically approved by the government, for reasons best known to them. Both deserve an immediate shutdown.
这些花式阅兵和与巴基斯坦在瓦格赫边境的戏剧性表演，简直是印度军队有史以来最无意义的作秀——还得到了政府的热烈批准，天知道是为什么。这两项都应该立刻叫停。
stupid_sane
We should stop these parades. US forces don’t do it. This time and energy can be spent somewhere better. Maybe just give them some time off.
我们应该停止这些阅兵活动。美国军队就不搞这些。这些时间和精力本可以用在更好的地方。或许应该给他们放个假。
BannedRedditVet
Post this in Facebook , look at the reaction then judge . I hope you got what I meant.
把这个发到 Facebook 上，看看反应再做判断。希望你明白我的意思。
Illustrious_Humor181
CMP Daredevils ??
CMP 的亡命徒们？？
Ok-Measurement-5065
On TV it looks cringe but in person it looks cool as hell. One time the army corp came to my university and performed stunts like this even jumps and fire rings all that and it was sureal. It is like an activity you can opt for in army if you want. Army doesn't force it on our soldiers.
电视上看起来挺尴尬的，但现场亲眼见到简直酷毙了。有一次陆军部队来我们学校，表演了各种特技，连跳跃穿越火圈什么的都有，那种场面简直超现实。这其实是军队里你可以自愿选择的项目，不会强迫士兵参与。
I do hate the Attari Border ceremony where they actually perform like clowns. I do feel that's a mockery of our forces.
我确实讨厌阿塔里边境仪式，那些人简直像小丑一样表演。这简直是对我们军队的讽刺。
tiny_scrotum
Bro its magnificent. 老兄，这真是壮观的场面。
Vildhorn
Just noticed they have a lot flatter tyres for better stability
刚注意到他们的轮胎扁得多，这样稳定性更好。
_DoodleBug_
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最新顶级机密 7G 移动雷达天线阵列。
BasicProgram8677
Hahahah
哈哈哈
Outrageous_Help_3214
Baby psyops… the baby watches this type of TV content and gets interested. It’s a bit cringe, but it’s honest work.
婴儿心理战……宝宝看到这类电视内容就会产生兴趣。虽然有点尴尬，但这确实是诚意之作。
imphenominal21
The target audience for these types of shows are Kids and kods only.....let them enjoy
这类节目的目标受众就是小孩和青少年而已……让他们享受一下吧
zack_tiger
I mean it looks cool if you ask me.
要我说，这看起来挺酷的。
Eastern_Bulwark06
Maybe the problem is not the stunts but the fact that we're still simping for white attention. Stop taking random white guys' (and girls') comments seriously.
也许问题不在于这些特技，而在于我们仍在渴望获得白人的关注。别再把随便哪个白人（不论男女）的评价太当回事了。
And the reason these stunts are done is to attract youngsters to the defence forces.
而进行这些特技表演的原因，是为了吸引年轻人加入国防力量。
ComradeTrot
This is a cool skill which these guys must have spent months acquiring. It requires a high level of physical fitness too. Why troll it.?
这是很酷的技能，这些人肯定花了好几个月才掌握。而且也需要极高的体能水平。为什么要嘲笑它呢？
Sensitive_Paper2471
I propose these comedy stuff to be clearly separated from the serious military parade part Make us look like a circus on the world stage
我建议把这些娱乐性的部分与严肃的阅兵式环节明确区分开来。这让我们在国际舞台上看起来像马戏团一样。
Wise-Hedgehog4062
Bike go broom broom
摩托车嘟嘟往前冲
The lady on the commentary panel was NOT STOPping.
那个评论席上的女士根本不停嘴。
TheRealSlim_KD
If at all anything should be stopped, it's should be those effing comentators. Really somone should shut them the eff up.
要说该停的，绝对是那些该死的评论员。真该有人让他们彻底闭嘴。
FatherCoconut
You are not the target audience for this. The target audience is people who have no real knowledge of what happens in defense. They see this and find it cool because it has stunts in it. I remember watching these as a kid and thinking it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen in my life, and I wasn’t really interested in those marches.
你可不是这节目的目标受众。目标群体是那些对国防事务一窍不通的人。他们看着觉得酷，因为有特技表演在里面。我小时候看这些节目时，也觉得那是我这辈子见过最酷的东西，对当时的那些阅兵式其实也没多大兴趣。
Longjumping_Swim_767
Military parade isn't just for defence nerds to jack of too. This is something unique which we have and I was there for the parade rehearsals and trust me seeing this in person and looking at the crowd everyone went crazy for them. It takes a lot of physical effort and synergy to perform all of this.
军事阅兵不只是供防务爱好者满足的表演。这是我们国家特有的一项活动，我亲眼见证了阅兵彩排现场，请相信我，当亲身看到这一切，望着周围为阅兵队伍而沸腾的群众，那种体验令人震撼。要完成所有动作，需要付出极大的体能和团队协作。
quasar_i
The concept of military parades itself is inherently flawed. A serious, professional military doesn't need to show off its men and equipment to project strength. However, I do admit that parades have become a part of the military culture in former Soviet block and socialist countries but these bike stunts are beyond stupid. They have the same energy as dictatorships displaying martial arts, breaking stuff with head, fire stunts etc., in their military parades.
阅兵仪式本身在概念上就存在根本缺陷。一支严肃专业的军队无需通过展示人员与装备来彰显实力。不过，我承认阅兵已成为前苏联阵营及SH主义国家军事文化的一部分，但那些摩托车特技表演简直荒谬透顶。这类表演与专制国家在阅兵式中展示武术、头碎硬物、火焰特技等项目如出一辙。
Our military men are not circus performers, don't treat them as such.
我们的军人不是马戏团演员，请勿如此对待他们。
GHOST-GAMERZ
Like the US which doesn't do it but did it last year because Trump wanted it.
就像美国通常不举行阅兵，去年却因特朗普的要求而破例举办。
And other countries also host parades like Italy, France, Argentina, Brazil and Columbia
其他国家如意大利、法国、阿根廷、巴西和哥伦比亚也会举办阅兵式
Doubt_full_
I disagree. It is a show of displine and unity. It's meant to reinforce confidence in the public and create positive impact. Parades were part of most traditional royal armies for this reason. It was ceremonial and each country had it's own unique traditions and practices.
我不同意你的看法。这是一种纪律与团结的展示，旨在增强公众信心并产生积极影响。正因如此，阅兵曾是多数传统皇家军队的组成部分。它承载仪式功能，每个国家都有其独特的传统与操演方式。
Though I was never a fan of these stunts the young me always wonderd how this was possible and it was a curiosity. So it has it's own charm.
虽然我从来不是这类高难度表演的粉丝，但年少时的我总好奇这是如何做到的，这种好奇心本身也具有独特魅力。
I hate the insane floats and dances during the Republic day parade more.
我更反感共和国日阅兵中那些夸张的花车和舞蹈表演。
ComradeTrot
Military parades became staple not only in Soviet block but also pioneered by Britain and Germany since 19th century. It's part of great power projection. Interestingly USA, Israel etc were never big on parades.
军事阅兵不仅在苏联阵营成为传统，自 19 世纪起也在英国和德国率先兴起。这是大国力量展示的一部分。有趣的是，美国、以色列等国从未热衷于此。
throwaway44221114
Just. No.
根本，不认同。
The-playful-Bird
Consider example of latest us army parade which people laughed for their simplicity and now, their venezuela operation showed their might & capability.I don't get the purpose of circus type stunts in a military parade.
以最近的美军阅兵为例，人们曾因其简约而发笑，但如今他们在委内瑞拉的行动展现了其实力与能力。我不理解在军事阅兵中表演马戏式特技的意义。
gaitondi
I see, you might be correct on this as you were their on ground but just my personal opinion as a professional army we could just refrain from this stunt demonstrations but I understand as i was watching this on TV and the lady with her weird commentary made it look and sound quiet quirky so i might be in the wrong but thank you for pointing out.
我明白了，鉴于你在现场，你的观点可能有道理。不过就我个人的看法，作为一支专业军队，我们或许可以避免这类特技表演。但我理解你的立场，毕竟我是通过电视观看的，那位女士古怪的解说让整个场面显得相当离奇——或许是我的判断有误，但感谢你的指正。
Longjumping_Swim_767
You are right to feel so. What if I told you there were madras regiment troops in lungi playing traditional drums with sunglasses on without a top and dancing and marching. It's all part of the show bhai. Even I'd like to see sci fi gear laden army parade without any other demonstration, but it is what it is and it's good. ( We don't need to copy anyone else) India has the best parades.
你会有这种感觉是正常的。如果我说曾有马德拉斯军团的士兵身着笼基、戴着墨镜光着膀子，一边敲打传统鼓点一边跳舞行进，你作何感想？这都是表演的一部分嘛，兄弟。虽然我也很想看充满科幻装备的纯军种阅兵式，但现状就是这样，而且也挺好的（我们无需模仿任何人）。印度拥有最棒的阅兵式。
WonFont
Sorry, people can downvote me all they want, but stunts are for stuntmen. Parades are meant for interaction between the military and civilians. You might not know, but a lot of people in the military dislike this more than we do.
抱歉，大家可以随便点踩，但特技表演应该留给特技演员。阅兵式的意义在于军民互动。你可能不知道，其实军队里反感这种表演的人比我们更多。
The Indian public gets excited about many things, but that doesn’t mean our troopers need to ride bikes with 100 people standing on top of them. These circus tricks are pathetic. I hope we end them soon. I truly mean no offence.
印度民众确实容易为各种事物兴奋，但这不意味着我们的军人就得表演百人叠罗汉的摩托车特技。这类马戏团式的把戏实在令人尴尬。希望我们能早日终止这些表演。我绝无冒犯之意。
gaitondi
True that brother.
说得对，兄弟。
manek101
People cheering for this lead to those KTM riding hooligans having increased popularity as well.
人们为此欢呼，也让那些骑 KTM 的流氓随之声名鹊起。
Those 'chappri' KTM bike stunts also have an audience that is 'crazy', doesn't mean it belongs in a civil society.
那些“俗气”的 KTM 摩托车特技也有“疯狂”的观众群，但这并不意味着它们适合出现在文明社会中。
Longjumping_Swim_767
Worst opinion or comparison you could give. Stunt shows in a closed environment exist and have a crowd and a turnout. And guess what they even had apache RTR bikes and they were doing wheelies. I hope you are being sarcastic or idk what conservative drill instructor you are, who is butthurt by seeing stunts with all safety equipment in a closed environment.
这是你能给出的最差意见或类比了。在封闭环境中进行的特技表演一直存在，并且拥有观众和参与度。你猜怎么着？他们甚至使用了阿帕奇 RTR 摩托车表演翘头特技。我希望你是在讽刺，或者我实在不明白你到底是哪门子保守的教官，看到全副安全装备的人在封闭环境里表演特技居然会如此不爽。
WonFont
Hard facts.
铁打的事实。
-bonkster
Ok I will copy past something i have discussed ealier in other forum regarding why these stunts are done in Independence day and is qn insult to the army personnels
好的，我将复制粘贴我在其他论坛上早先讨论过的内容，关于为什么这些特技表演要在独立日进行，以及这是否是对军人的一种侮辱
Alright let me put my opinion into this,
好吧，让我说说我的看法，
First thing first army personnel love to participate in this cause they get a lot of off days from their usual duty and a certain amount of allowance is provided for this.
首先，军队人员特别喜欢参与这类活动，因为他们能因此获得很多休息日，还有一定的津贴补助。
On the independence day parade or republic day parade this has been a tradition for ages just cause the west or someone else doesn't do it, doesn't mean we too should not do it.
在独立日阅兵或共和国日阅兵中，这已经成为一项历史悠久的传统。我们不能仅仅因为西方国家或其他国家不这么做，就觉得自己也不应该做。
This parade also shows tableaus and ethnic and cultural stuff of different states which we Defo need to appreciate from time to time and what better stage to appreciate than this
这些阅兵还会展示各邦的花车以及丰富的民族和文化内容，这些都是我们肯定需要不时去欣赏和尊重的，而还有什么比这个舞台更好的呢。
These stunts might look cliche and cringe at times but let it be,you mentioned that you like this as a kid but now you don't . Exactly this could be a thing to get kids hooked up to the nation and make them a little bit patriotic and nationalistic(not much but yeah;at least this is a selling point). That thing at least worked with me cause my father made me watch at first then it was a tradition for me to watch the parade cause it has these things and I waited for my state to come on those tableaus.
这些表演有时可能显得老套甚至令人尴尬，但就随它去吧。你说小时候喜欢但现在不爱看了——可这正是吸引孩子们关注国家、培养些微爱国情怀（不必过度，但至少是个卖点）的方式。至少对我而言确实奏效，当初父亲带我看阅兵，后来观看游行成了我的传统节目，因为我总期待看到那些花车上展现家乡风采的瞬间。
Opportunity-Pale
Today's kids, especially boys would love to see actual power projection shit like Tanks, Drones, Fighter Jets, Missiles, etc. Not some circus stunts
如今的孩子们，尤其是男孩们，更想看到真正的力量展示：坦克、无人机、战斗机、导弹等等硬核装备。谁还稀罕那些马戏团式的杂耍呢？
TrxshyReddit
did you actually know about what missiles or jets or tanks we had/ how they work as a kid? As defense enthusiasts sure we feel these arent necessary but its just for the kids. Not that big of a deal
小时候你对我们有什么导弹、战机或坦克真的了解吗？知道它们是怎么运作的吗？作为国防爱好者，我们当然觉得这些没必要，但这只是给孩子看的，没什么大不了的。
earnestworkerbee
Today's kids and kids at our time are different
如今的孩子和我们那个年代的孩子不一样
Vildhorn
This.
就是。
AbhayOye
Dear OP, why do you want to stop this ? What is your exact obxtion to such demonstrations ?
楼主，你为什么要阻止这种事？你对这类表演到底有什么不满？
Medium-Photo-9938
cause some gora pakoras made fun of it on reddit
因为有些白人老外在 Reddit 上嘲笑了这事
Visible_Theme4482
Not on reddit, but on Facebook/Youtube by “ Ozzy Man reviews” and from there on all this started. I mean they watch “Reaction videos “ ♂️ what you expect? Of course gori chamdi validation is above all.
不是在 Reddit，而是在 Facebook/YouTube 上，由“Ozzy Man reviews”开始，然后所有事情就跟着发酵了。我是说他们看“观后感视频” 你还指望什么？当然，白人认可就是一切咯。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统就是从那些白人老外那里学来的啊，哈哈，而且这种技能怎么帮我们对抗中国？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统都是从所谓的"白人炸丸子"那儿学来的，哈哈。再说这技能怎么能帮我们对抗中国呢？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
ITS_TRIPZ_DAWG
I mean by that logic parades won't help either.
按这逻辑，阅兵也没用啊。
gaitondi
Hi sir, For me Army Day parade is supposed to be a Power demonstrations and showcasing new weapons and technologies which they did and i loved it. But these stunt demonstrations i have been seeing these since i was a kid and it always felt a bit quirky and in my personal opinion a professional army should refrain from these stunts.
先生您好，对我来说，建军节阅兵应当是力量展示和新式武器技术的亮相——他们确实做到了，这一点我非常赞赏。但这些特技表演我从小看到大，总觉得有点花哨。个人认为，一支专业的军队应当避免这类表演性质的项目。
PS: I see you are an IAF veteran. Sir, Huge respect and thank you for your service.
附言：注意到您是印度空军退役前辈。先生，在此向您致以崇高敬意，感谢您的无私奉献。
AbhayOye
Dear OP, any armed force's fighting ability depends upon its personnel, equipment and training. For personnel high skill levels play an intrinsic role lixed to morale. Add the use of their own equipment to this skill level and the morale rises even more. This morale is essential for valour, bravery and courage, in the face of odds and adversity.
亲爱的楼主，任何军队的作战能力都取决于其人员素质、装备水平和训练成果。对于人员而言，高超的技艺水平与士气有着内在关联。当军人能熟练运用自身装备时，这种士气将得到进一步提振。正是这种士气，铸就了面对逆境与挑战时不可或缺的英勇、果敢与无畏精神。
The basic human instinct to 'survive' is the anti thesis of the concept of 'sacrifice'. For an average human being to overcome the natural tendency of 'survival' and adopt 'sacrifice' requires supreme belief in oneself. This belief, like that demonstrated by successful sports teams, can make human beings do extraordinary things. To do this in war time, it needs to be encouraged in peace time.
人类“求生”的基本本能与“牺牲”这一概念背道而驰。一个普通人要克服“生存”的自然倾向，选择“牺牲”，需要极致的自我信念。这种信念，正如那些成功的体育队伍所展现的那样，能让人做出非凡之举。若要在战时做到这一点，必须在和平时期加以鼓励。
Demonstrations, parades and military rituals are a time tested part of inculcating the sense of supreme belief in one's own self, training and skill. Demonstrating such skill in public at nationally recognised occasions boosts morale, self belief and the adulation/encouragement received adds to a soldiers sense of value.
示威、阅兵和军事仪式，是历经时间考验的塑造个体对于自身、训练及技能的绝对信念的重要环节。在全国公认的场合公开展示这种技能，能够提振士气、增强自信，而民众的赞叹与鼓励则会进一步增添军人的价值感。
I hope you understand now, why the motorcycle 'stunts' are not just stunts but are a reflection of a soldier's internal belief in himself, his service and his nation.
我希望你现在明白了，为什么摩托车的"特技"不仅是表演，更是士兵内心对自己、对军旅生涯以及对国家信念的一种体现。
gaitondi
Thank you for your insight sir!
先生，感谢您的深刻见解！
dulcoflex
Goofy army will not be taken seriously, you want that sometimes. It puts a doubt in the adversary's minds.
滑稽的军队不会被人当真，但有时这正是你想要的。它能在对手心中种下疑虑的种子。
ContactOk1274
LMao looks like a big circus
哈哈，看起来像个大型马戏团。
manek101
Mainly because it sends the wrong message to the youth, glorifying stupid bike stunts.
主要是因为这会给年轻人传递错误信息，美化那些愚蠢的摩托车特技。
Then additionally it just simply looks stupid and doesn't even have anything to do with military combat. My question is why does it even exist in the first place???
此外，这看起来真的很傻，甚至与军事战斗毫无关系。我的问题是，这种东西到底为什么会存在？？？
stepped_in_some_shit
I don't get the problem with these. It's a tradition of our army. Next someone will say that making camels do marchpast is animal cruelty and shouldn't be done. I sometimes feel that most of the opposition to this comes from the same 'gora validation' problem, i.e., don't do this because goras on social media mock us for it.
我不明白这些批评的症结所在。这是我们军队的一项传统。接下来恐怕会有人指责让骆驼参加阅兵式是虐待动物、不该继续。有时我觉得，对此类事的反对声浪大多源于同样的问题——"白人认可焦虑"，也就是因为社交媒体上的西方人会嘲笑我们，所以就不该这么做。
ExtensionSearch6912
But entire tradition was taken from the very gora pakoras lol and how does this skill help us fight China? This aint circus lol.
但整个传统就是从那些白人老外那里学来的啊，哈哈，而且这种技能怎么帮我们对抗中国？这又不是马戏团，笑死。
stepped_in_some_shit
Well by that logic soldier marchpasts should be stopped as well as they are a relic of the past when marching discipline was an essential requirement of military action. If you haven't, go and watch the 'military parade' that the US Army did for Trump's birthday. Now no one can question the competency and professionalism of the US Army, but that parade was the saddest thing I've ever seen.
按照这个逻辑，士兵分列式也应该取消，因为那不过是行军纪律在军事行动中至关重要的旧时代遗风。要是没看过的话，建议去瞧瞧美军为特朗普生日举行的"阅兵式"。尽管无人能质疑美军的实力与专业素养，但那场阅兵实在是我见过最令人尴尬的场面。
I've been watching these parades for as long as I can remember, and I've watched parades of other countries like Russia and China. It's about spectacle, tradition and civil-military relations. These things are intrinsically unique to each country and society, and these 'stunts' are our quirk, nothing more, nothing less.
自我记事起就在观看这些阅兵式，也看过俄罗斯、中国等其他国家的阅兵。这关乎国家形象展示、传统传承以及军民关系的维系。每个国家和社会在这些方面都有其独特的内在特质，而我们这些"特技表演"正是印度特色的体现，仅此而已，别无深意。
This obsession with 'how it looks' needs to change tbh. We have a professional army that knows and does it's job well. Our parades, uniforms(I've seen a lot of criticism of those too), slogans, are a part of our military ethos. There's no need to change it just because it looks 'cringe' to a section of the population. I'm sure that if it starts to interfere with any actual military requirement, it'll be dropped without the need of any input from citizens.
说实话，这种对'看起来如何'的执念需要改变。我们拥有一支专业军队，他们清楚并出色地履行着职责。我们的阅兵、制服（我也见过不少对这些的批评）、口号，都是我们军队精神的一部分。仅仅因为一部分人觉得'尴尬'就改变它们并无必要。我相信，如果这开始影响到任何实际军事需求，军队自然会摒弃，无需民众操心。
ExtensionSearch6912
but why spinning like a while with binoculars? that seems a new inclusion and stupid to me.
但为什么转圈的时候还要拿着望远镜？这操作对我来说既陌生又蠢得可以。
gaitondi
Bro see it’s just my personal opinion Indian army could just refrain from this these kind of demonstrations and just stick to the Weapons and technology demonstrations which they did beautifully specially the Pinaka rocket system and Akash missile rolling down the street and Camels are and always been an Asset for the Army and BSF specially in Republic day parade once i saw a camel march of BSF with Mortar system mounted on them, such a beauty!
哥们听我说，这只是我的个人观点，印度军队完全可以避免这类表演，专注于武器和技术的展示——他们在这方面做得相当出色，特别是“皮纳卡”火箭系统和“阿卡什”导弹在街头巡游的场景。而骆驼过去、现在、未来都将是军队尤其是边防军的宝贵资产。有次共和国日阅兵上，我见到边防军的骆驼队伍驮着迫击炮系统行进，那场面简直美得震撼！
PS: F*** the goras and their stupid validation.
附注：去他的西方佬和他们那套愚蠢的认可标准。
PN_STUDIOS
Why? This doesn't fit in ur "cool or matching camo mindset"? People enjoy these and it is a very different experience to see these live during parades. No need to stop these.
为什么？这不符合你“炫酷或迷彩至上”的思维模式？大家可是乐在其中，而且现场观看阅兵时体验完全不同。真没必要取消这些环节。
Dull_Refrigerator669
Why tho? I really enjoy them and I'm sure the armymen doing it also do. Have you seen our marching? No other army matches that in professionalism. I don't think we need to be serious all the time.
为什么这么想？我真的很喜欢这些表演，我相信执行这些任务的军人也同样乐在其中。你见过我们的阅兵式吗？论专业性，没有其他军队能与之媲美。我觉得我们没必要时时刻刻都板着脸。
Legitimate_Tip335
No other army matches that in professionalism? Have you ever watched pla's march? Or even DPRK's Army March?
别的军队在专业性上有哪个能比得过？你看过解放军的阅兵吗？甚至朝鲜人民军的阅兵看过吗？
Dull_Refrigerator669
Yes I have. Maybe there are 1-2 exceptions. But the point is we already have enough professionalism so it doesn't hurt to have a bit of fun
当然看过。也许存在那么一两个例外。但关键在于，我们的专业性已经足够强了，不妨让人家找点乐子嘛
Hefty-District-833
Man shut up and let people have their fun.
哥们儿，你省省吧，让别人开心开心怎么了。
Leviathn_Doom
You can shut off your TV but I don't want this to stop. It's fun and it's for the children. These stunts takes precision and confidence to pull it off with utmost discipline, all the qualities needed in an armed force.
你可以关掉电视，但我希望这不要停。这很有趣，也是为了孩子们。这些特技需要精准与自信才能完美执行，展现了最高程度的纪律性——而这正是一支军队所需的所有品质。
TheRealSlim_KD
All armies have adventure cells and one should assume this act comes from that quadrant. the soldiers doing these stunts out int their time in these 'departments' or 'cells' and then go back to active duty. they don't spend 15 years of their life doing stuff like this.
各军队都有冒险部门，人们应认为此类行为来自这个层面。士兵们在执行这些特技任务时，会暂时调入这些"部门"或"小组"，完成任务后便回归常规服役。他们不会把十五年的军旅生涯都花在这类行动上。
Enjoy the display of skill and let's move on.
欣赏这项技能展示就好，我们继续前进吧。
earnestworkerbee
It's like a beautiful ballet, /s
这就像一场优美的芭蕾舞，/s
Common_Sun_7416
This is one of the best parts of the parade, one of the high points, I don't get the hate.
这是阅兵中最精彩的部分之一，也是最高潮的亮点之一，我不明白为什么有人讨厌它。
SuaveSuar
As a kid, I used to watch with my heart in my mouth. Wishing they didn't fall or mess up. And they never did.
小时候，我总看得提心吊胆，生怕他们失误或摔下来。但他们从未失手。
Maybe kids now don't appreciate such stunts. If that is so, then i agree this can be scrapped.
也许现在的孩子们不再欣赏这类特技表演。如果是这样，那我也同意可以取消这个环节。
nhihorahipadhaibc
Atmanirbhar Wala
well it's unique that's why I have no problem with it.itlooks fun and goofy
它的独特之处正是我对此毫无异议的原因——看起来既有趣又有点滑稽搞笑。
Nexusdawn1021
These stunts belong in a circus, not a professional Army.
这些花招该留在马戏团，而不是专业军队。
missinima
cant respect anyone who's opinions are based of what cumskins think. i too don't liek this, but i dont't care if its there because they think its cringe
没法尊重那些看法是基于洋人怎么想的人。我也并不喜欢这个，但我不在乎它存在是因为他们认为这很尴尬
Fun-Corner-887
These parades are for general public. especially young kids. also the personnel themselves like doing it anyways. Think of it as a festival or celebration. It's a very family friendly event. You can see for yourself if you go. Kids love them.
这些阅兵是为了大众，尤其是小孩。而且军人自己也乐于参与。就当它是个节庆或庆祝活动，非常家庭友好。你去看看就知道了，孩子们都很喜欢。
Indian military parades were never about intimidation. It's more about having a fun time. God knows the rest of the year the military always has to be on combat mode dealing with our neighbors.
印度的阅兵从来不是为了威慑，更多是为了寻乐子。要知道一年到头军队都得处于备战状态应付我们周边的邻居。
bluemesa7
Agree, we need to stop these stupid stunts.
同意，我们是该停止这些愚蠢的作秀。
VettiMuruku
The only stunt I like is pyramid formation. Anything other than that seems ridiculous especially those spinning stunts.
唯一让我觉得带劲的是金字塔编队，其他的尤其是那些旋转特技，看起来都挺可笑的。
Soap-MacTavish3009
Bro they are Soldiers not stuntman, some stunts are indeed impressive but ones like rotating one with binoculars looks so cringe.
老兄，他们是士兵，不是特技演员，有些表演确实挺精彩的，但像拿望远镜转圈那种实在太尴尬了。
FrodoForgotTheRing
The stunt parade and the Wagah border drama with Pakistan have to be the most pointless spectacles ever carried out by the Indian Army—enthusiastically approved by the government, for reasons best known to them. Both deserve an immediate shutdown.
这些花式阅兵和与巴基斯坦在瓦格赫边境的戏剧性表演，简直是印度军队有史以来最无意义的作秀——还得到了政府的热烈批准，天知道是为什么。这两项都应该立刻叫停。
stupid_sane
We should stop these parades. US forces don’t do it. This time and energy can be spent somewhere better. Maybe just give them some time off.
我们应该停止这些阅兵活动。美国军队就不搞这些。这些时间和精力本可以用在更好的地方。或许应该给他们放个假。
BannedRedditVet
Post this in Facebook , look at the reaction then judge . I hope you got what I meant.
把这个发到 Facebook 上，看看反应再做判断。希望你明白我的意思。
Illustrious_Humor181
CMP Daredevils ??
CMP 的亡命徒们？？
Ok-Measurement-5065
On TV it looks cringe but in person it looks cool as hell. One time the army corp came to my university and performed stunts like this even jumps and fire rings all that and it was sureal. It is like an activity you can opt for in army if you want. Army doesn't force it on our soldiers.
电视上看起来挺尴尬的，但现场亲眼见到简直酷毙了。有一次陆军部队来我们学校，表演了各种特技，连跳跃穿越火圈什么的都有，那种场面简直超现实。这其实是军队里你可以自愿选择的项目，不会强迫士兵参与。
I do hate the Attari Border ceremony where they actually perform like clowns. I do feel that's a mockery of our forces.
我确实讨厌阿塔里边境仪式，那些人简直像小丑一样表演。这简直是对我们军队的讽刺。
tiny_scrotum
Bro its magnificent. 老兄，这真是壮观的场面。
Vildhorn
Just noticed they have a lot flatter tyres for better stability
刚注意到他们的轮胎扁得多，这样稳定性更好。
_DoodleBug_
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BasicProgram8677
Hahahah
哈哈哈
Outrageous_Help_3214
Baby psyops… the baby watches this type of TV content and gets interested. It’s a bit cringe, but it’s honest work.
婴儿心理战……宝宝看到这类电视内容就会产生兴趣。虽然有点尴尬，但这确实是诚意之作。
imphenominal21
The target audience for these types of shows are Kids and kods only.....let them enjoy
这类节目的目标受众就是小孩和青少年而已……让他们享受一下吧
zack_tiger
I mean it looks cool if you ask me.
要我说，这看起来挺酷的。
Eastern_Bulwark06
Maybe the problem is not the stunts but the fact that we're still simping for white attention. Stop taking random white guys' (and girls') comments seriously.
也许问题不在于这些特技，而在于我们仍在渴望获得白人的关注。别再把随便哪个白人（不论男女）的评价太当回事了。
And the reason these stunts are done is to attract youngsters to the defence forces.
而进行这些特技表演的原因，是为了吸引年轻人加入国防力量。
ComradeTrot
This is a cool skill which these guys must have spent months acquiring. It requires a high level of physical fitness too. Why troll it.?
这是很酷的技能，这些人肯定花了好几个月才掌握。而且也需要极高的体能水平。为什么要嘲笑它呢？
Sensitive_Paper2471
I propose these comedy stuff to be clearly separated from the serious military parade part Make us look like a circus on the world stage
我建议把这些娱乐性的部分与严肃的阅兵式环节明确区分开来。这让我们在国际舞台上看起来像马戏团一样。
Wise-Hedgehog4062
Bike go broom broom
摩托车嘟嘟往前冲
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