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为什么美国的军事优势可能不是与伊朗长期武装冲突的决定性因素

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The US and Iran have made significant progress in negotiations on Iran’s nuclear program, according to Omani mediators. Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi called the latest round of talks in Geneva "one of the most intense" yet.  More talks are set to be held next week in Vienna. They're seen as a last chance to avert US military action. Washington accuses the regime of wanting to build a nuclear weapon, which Tehran denies.
 
根据阿曼调解者的说法,美国和伊朗在关于伊朗核计划的谈判中取得了显著进展。伊朗外长阿巴斯·阿拉赫奇称最近在日内瓦举行的谈判是“迄今为止最激烈的一轮”。下周将在维也纳举行更多谈判。这被视为避免美国军事行动的最后机会。华盛顿指责伊朗政权想要制造核武器,而德黑兰对此予以否认。
 
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@juliuscaesar894
It would be great if the leaders fought it out instead of the soldiers. If they are so willing to lead soldiers to war shouldn't they lead by example?
 
如果领导人亲自上阵而不是让士兵去打,那会很棒。如果他们如此愿意带领士兵打战争,难道不应该以身作则吗?
 
@kizitoMutebiMirro-wc7lj
Present activities of USA may stimulate other nations to think that only nuclear weapons can save their land,
Which would be a very dangerous for the western countries.
 
美国目前的活动可能会激励其他国家认为只有核武器才能保护自己的领土,这对西方国家来说将是非常危险的。
 
@manvsmachine1
Pretty sure there will be regime change. In the US.
 
我很确定美国会发生政权更替。
 
@NickDz-p4k
It’s like Iran putting their military bases in Mexico and then demand that US should dismantle all their missiles because they are a threat to Iran since they can reach Iranian bases in Mexico♂️, 21st century logic???
 
这就像是伊朗把他们的军事基地建在墨西哥,然后要求美国拆除所有导弹,因为这些导弹对伊朗构成威胁,因为它们可以打到墨西哥的伊朗基地♂️,21世纪的逻辑?
 
@pillkaka5320
Any country that wants to survive this evil empire will have to be like north Korea is to build a nuclear weapon
 
任何想要在这个邪恶帝国中生存下去的国家,都必须像朝鲜一样,发展核武器。
 
@aleyoakenshield5384
An important thing to keep in mind is that there has been no evidence or reason to believe that Iran is close to building nukes. They are still stuck at the same level of enrichment they've had for years, at 60%, far from the 90% necessary.
Additionally, Iran willingly signed a nuclear agreement with the US that made development of nukes impossible and allowed the US to monitor them with full access (nuclear enrichment is hard to hide). Trump pulled out of the agreement because he was hoping to force more concessions through threats and violence.
The truth is that military force is not necessary to prevent nukes at this point.
 
一个重要的事情是,至今没有证据或理由相信伊朗接近制造核武器。他们仍然停留在多年来的同一水平,铀浓缩率为60%,远远低于90%的标准。此外,伊朗曾自愿与美国签订核协议,该协议使得核武器的开发变得不可能,并允许美国对其进行完全监督(核浓缩难以隐瞒)。特朗普退出协议是因为他希望通过威胁和暴力迫使伊朗作出更多让步。事实是,现在不需要使用军事力量来阻止核武器的出现。
 
@Gretsch-q4x
Wasnt it trump that caused Iran to quit the agreement to not develop weapons years ago. Maybe he will give them cutting edge cpu chips like he did China to fix a problem he created. China was banned as well as iran.
This reporter is believing trump. Oran had an agreement not to enrich and he blew it up years ago
 
是不是特朗普导致伊朗退出了多年前不发展武器的协议?也许他会像给中国提供尖端CPU芯片那样,给伊朗提供解决他自己造成的问题的办法。中国和伊朗都被禁了。这个记者相信特朗普。伊朗曾有协议不进行铀浓缩,他几年之前就破坏了这个协议。
 
@6222999
Trump says he is willing to play Deal or No Deal with Iran live on Fox News...then if Iran lets him win and gives him a Deal or No Deal Peace Prize, he will decide not to attack.
 
特朗普说他愿意在福克斯新闻上和伊朗进行《敢死队还是不敢死队》直播比赛……然后如果伊朗让他赢,并给他一个《敢死队还是不敢死队和平奖》,他会决定不攻击。
 
@Awesome_Ninja
Really wish we would get past the whole killing eachother part already.
 
真希望我们能早日摆脱互相残杀的局面。
 
@user-ie1hg5ov1m
Win? Perhaps Be severely damaged? also yes look at vietnam laos and Cambodia they are still cleaning up UXO
 
赢?也许是严重受损?是的,看看越南、老挝和柬埔寨,他们还在清理未爆炸的炸弹。
 
@jackal42069
Please tell your correspondents to be quicker in their Journalism/Messaging. They turn what could be a short and informative message. into a long-winded nothing-saying message. It's horrible to listen to.
 
请告诉你们的记者们,在新闻报道/信息传递上要更快一点。他们把本来可以简短且有用的信息,转化成了冗长无关紧要的废话。听起来真让人恶心。
 
@bw8384
Why do Europeans love to declare how they stand with ukraine and do many fisty bump and pictures and pledges and loans.  
But when it comes time to stick neck out and apply military force to ukraine best ally...
Europe sit on comfortable sidelines wirh notepad critizing usa every action.
Just waiting to write up the war crime charges for such aggressions.
 
为什么欧洲人喜欢宣称支持乌克兰,做出许多击掌、合影、承诺和贷款。但是当需要真正挺身而出,向乌克兰最亲密的盟友施加军事力量时……欧洲却坐在舒适的旁观席上,拿着记事本批评美国的每一个行动。只是等着写下对这种侵略行为的战争罪指控。
 
@robertgreenberg1934
Both commentators, state that Rubio is pressing the issue of ballistic missiles, one referring to him as the hawkish part of the administration. And yet the clip you showed from trump's state of the unx address, makes it perfectly clear that trump views this as a core issue.
 
两位评论员都表示,鲁比奥在强调弹道导弹问题,其中一位称他是政府中的鹰派部分。然而你展示的特朗普国情咨文片段清楚表明,特朗普将这一问题视为核心问题。
 
@TheBlazersfan22
Pakistan has nukes and India has nukes. Dont see each other nuking each other. With the hate between the two.  Let iran have their nukes .  So we can overthrow them
 
巴基斯坦有核武器,印度也有核武器。尽管两国之间有仇恨,但他们并没有互相使用核武器。让伊朗拥有他们的核武器吧,这样我们就可以推翻他们。
 
@Bobmaja
At this rate i do wish iran can develop nukes. They need it. Kim saw this
 
照这个速度,我确实希望伊朗能发展核武器。他们需要这个。金正恩已经看到了这一点。
 
@AA-db9cb
Iran will be defeated in a full-on conflict. No doubt about that but it will still cost American troops. Hopefully, the situation can be resolved in an air campaign.
 
伊朗在全面冲突中将被击败,这一点毫无疑问,但这仍然会付出美国军人的代价。希望情况能够通过空袭解决。
 
@dy-th-jp
What right does the US have for not allowing Iran to own nuclear weapons? "I'm the good guy, you're the bad guys" doesn't work in 2026. Especially since the world doesn't see the US as the "good guys " any more. Clearly the US is the bad guys here
 
美国有什么权利不允许伊朗拥有核武器?“我是好人,你是坏人”的说法在2026年行不通了。特别是现在世界已经不再把美国看作“好人”了。显然,美国在这里是坏人。
 
@wuseling
Short-term promises are just bandages on a deepening wound. You can't bomb away a nuclear threat without triggering global sepsis. Economic toxins and regional rage will circulate long after an imagined victory, poisoning the system for decades. Some memories never fade; some infections have no cure.
 
短期的承诺只是加深伤口的创可贴。你不能不引发全球败血症就炸掉核威胁。经济毒素和地区愤怒将在虚构的胜利之后继续传播,几十年后仍会毒害系统。有些记忆永远不会消失;有些感染没有治愈。
 
@AlexThistle-s5g
Total absurdity, US creates conflicts and puts the rest of the world in dangerous. All the countries helping in this mess are guilty if something really bad helps Greece is one of them.
 
完全荒谬,美国制造冲突,让全世界陷入危险。所有帮助制造这一混乱的国家,如果发生真正糟糕的事情,它们都是有罪的,希腊就是其中之一。
 
@RobertKohn-x3k
Russia will never accept NATO members to send militaries in Ukraine they have already made that clear.The Europeans always assumed that the Russians could be forced somehow to accept Zelensky's peace proposal. The so called fair and just peace.
 
俄罗斯永远不会接受北约成员派兵进入乌克兰,他们已经明确表示了这一点。欧洲人总是认为俄罗斯能够以某种方式被迫接受泽连斯基的和平提案。所谓的公正和平。
 
@bashzubair
Iran is America's worst nightmare. Attack Iran and see the US sink to the bottom of the sea. Looking at those US officers during the State of the unx address they were sweating on their pants
 
伊朗是美国最糟糕的噩梦。攻击伊朗看看美国是否会沉入海底。看着那些在国情咨文演讲中的美国官员,他们裤子都湿了。
 
@DH-vt3ql
Sustained air strikes against military leadership and infrastructure, may motivate the opposition or those who want change to take the streets in greater numbers thus allowing the government to collapse or collaborate.
 
持续的空袭军事领导层和基础设施,可能会激励反对派或那些想要改变的人走上街头,人数更多,从而使政府崩溃或合作。
 
@pineapplesareyummy6352
The US can always p-ss back off to North America where it belongs. Iran is actively supported by Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea. Together, BRICS and the Global South should ensure the Asian mainland is off limits to the US, and eventually remove the US from Asia where it does not belong.
 
美国永远可以回到属于它的北美。伊朗得到了俄罗斯、中国、巴基斯坦、朝鲜的积极支持。BRICS和全球南方国家应确保亚洲大陆不允许美国进入,最终将美国从亚洲驱逐出境,因为它不属于这里。
 
@almVancouver
Many commentators speak about Iran's ability to take down US assets with some Chinese missle, drone swarms, mini subs, mines...blah blah.
We are talking the US here. Whatever assets Iran cares to bear down with will be met with unbelievable force of the most advanced and Powerful Military the world has known. US can simply bomb the heck out of them with targeting anyone and everyone that holds some position in the theocracy.
 
许多评论员谈到伊朗通过一些中国导弹、无人机群、微型潜艇、地雷等手段击毁美国资产。我们说的是美国。无论伊朗愿意如何打击,美国都会以世界上最先进、最强大的军力进行无法想象的反击。美国可以轻松地用轰炸摧毁他们,瞄准任何在神权政府中拥有某种职务的人。
 
@JoeExta
Iran SHOULD seek nuclear capability.
Then Israel and it's puppet state will leave them alone.
They should buy some nukes from China.
If they're going to be punished anyway, might as well get the nukes.
America has no right to decide which countries can or cannot arm themselves with nuclear weapons.
 
伊朗应该寻求核能力。
然后以色列及其傀儡国家就会让他们独立。
他们应该从中国购买一些核武器。
反正他们会被惩罚,不如就得到核武器。
美国没有权利决定哪些国家可以或不能拥有核武器。
 
@kimmogensen4888
Prolonged conflict between what? USA destroyed military targets and leaves, as long as they don’t put boots on the ground they can leave wherever they think they have done enough damage to Iran, last time Iran tried to close the shipping was in the tanker war it took 24 hours and the Iranians was defeated with more then half of their navy destroyed several fighter jets, and that was just one super aircraft carrier used by the USA, Ronald Reagan had to order the military to stop before they had totally annihilated the Iranians military capabilities, which was not the intent, just send a strong message about not massing with freedom of navigation, ever since Iran has been doing a lot of taking an one time they shot down the most expensive drone ever built 160 million dollar like a passenger jet but a huge drone full of surveillance equipment, in international waters airspace, which later resulted in the killing of the top Iranian general in Iraq when he violated a UN resolution of not leaving Iran because of terror activity in the region. And then Iran took a break from playing gangsters
 
什么是长期冲突?美国摧毁了军事目标然后离开,只要他们不派兵上地面,他们就可以在认为对伊朗造成足够损害的地方撤离。上次伊朗试图封锁航运是在油轮战争期间,24小时内伊朗被击败,他们的海军被摧毁了超过一半,还有几架战斗机,那时美国只用了一个超级航母,罗纳德·里根不得不命令军方停手,避免彻底摧毁伊朗的军事能力,这并不是目的,只是传达一个强烈的信息,警告不要干涉航行自由。自那以后,伊朗经常挑起事端,有一次他们击落了世界上最昂贵的无人机,价值1.6亿美元,像一架客机,但那是一个装满监视设备的巨型无人机,发生在国际水域的空域,后来这导致了在伊拉克杀死了伊朗最高将领,因为他违反了联合国的决议,擅自离开伊朗进行地区恐怖活动。然后,伊朗暂停了他们的黑帮行为。
 
@destinylove-nz3fu
Attacking Iran or not will still bring America empire down I live in the USA for 24 years believe me they are biggest threat to the entire humanity because they always control the narrative in their favor by accusing other nations as terrorist but history has shown the United States trains terrorist and America always pick on the weak never attack Russia China it shows you that they are not strong just bully
 
攻击伊朗与否都会让美国帝国垮台。我在美国住了24年,相信我,他们是全人类最大的威胁,因为他们总是通过指责其他国家是恐怖分子来控制叙事,然而历史证明美国训练恐怖分子,而且美国总是挑弱者下手,从不攻击俄罗斯和中国,这表明他们并不强大,只是欺负人。
 
@chrisspencer6502
Probably not but given China and Russia are there they probably won’t loose and America will give up a lot of secrets
 
可能不会,但考虑到中国和俄罗斯在那儿,他们可能不会输,美国会泄露很多机密。
 
@almVancouver
The US will move out the theocracy. Religious fanatics with nukes and missles that can reach NA? Oh boy this has gone on long enough. Peace to Iranians all over the world. Looks like the US finally grew a pair.
 
美国将会推翻神权政体。拥有核武器和能够打到北美的导弹的宗教极端分子?哦,天哪,这个问题已经拖得够久了。向全世界的伊朗人民致敬。看起来美国终于长大了。
 
@newshaaa_irani
I am an Iranian living in the United States. I urge President Trump not to negotiate with those responsible for my sister’s death. The Khamenei regime took her life simply for participating in a peaceful protest. Please stand with the people of Iran and do not abandon us.
 
我是一名居住在美国的伊朗人。我敦促特朗普总统不要与那些对我姐姐死亡负有责任的人进行谈判。哈梅内伊政权仅仅因为我姐姐参加了和平抗议活动就夺走了她的生命。请站在伊朗人民一边,别抛弃我们。
 
@mereacolyte31
Ah yes, sending Johnny's to topple regimes has never turned out well for America. I wonder if they actually believe Iran will lose. Go bomb their cities, kill their people and then what? You think you will just get away with this? The US needs an urgent renewal of its elites, or idiocracy will reign much longer.
 
啊,是的,派“美国大兵”去推翻政权这件事,从来没有给美国带来过好结果。我真想知道他们是否真的认为伊朗会失败。去轰炸他们的城市,杀害他们的人民,然后呢?你们觉得自己就能全身而退吗?美国迫切需要对其精英阶层进行一次彻底更新,否则“弱智统治”还会持续更久。
 
@NightRoseQueen
There should be a global summit among world leaders to address the growing concern that nuclear rules are applied inconsistently, where legal obligations, geopolitical alliances, and power dynamics often determine how countries are treated rather than a truly universal standard. In a modern society shaped by the lessons of global conflict, fairness should not be an aspiration but a guiding principle. A more transparent, consistent, and equitable frxwork is essential to build trust, reduce tensions, and ensure that international security is governed by justice rather than imbalance.
 
应该召开一次全球领导人峰会,来应对核规则被不一致适用这一日益严重的问题。在这个问题上,法律义务、地缘政治联盟和权力结构往往决定了各国受到怎样的对待,而不是真正普遍适用的标准。在一个吸取了全球冲突教训的现代社会中,公平不应只是追求的目标,而应成为指导原则。一个更加透明、一致和公平的框架,对于建立信任、缓解紧张局势、确保国际安全由正义而非失衡来主导至关重要。
 
@RobertKohn-x3k
Iran will never develop nuclear weapons as they understand the repurcussion. Israel lost the 12 day war and the proof is the noise about Iranian ballistic programme. Why do they say that the Iranian government is the weakest it has been for ages? Iran did not waste time after the 12 day war as they travelled to Moscow and Beijing and finally asked for help. The amount of militqry  cargo  planes that have landed in Tehran in the last few months combined with  new jets from Russia. The most important thing is they seem to have now intergrated their air defences to satelites.Rubio trying to raise the ballastic missile programme is hit and hope, as why would Iran capitulate to its enemies on the issue of self defence and military deterrence especially to Israel? Give up nuclear and reduce ballistic missiles?So in other words defenceless.
 
伊朗永远不会发展核武器,因为他们明白后果。以色列输掉了那场为期12天的战争,证据就是他们不断炒作伊朗的弹道导弹计划。为什么他们会说伊朗政府是多年来最虚弱的时候?在那场12天战争后,伊朗并没有浪费时间,而是前往莫斯科和北京,最终寻求帮助。过去几个月里,降落在德黑兰的军事货运飞机数量之多,再加上来自俄罗斯的新型战机,说明了一切。最重要的是,他们现在似乎已经将防空系统与卫星进行了整合。鲁比奥试图炒作弹道导弹计划只是“碰运气式”的做法,因为为什么伊朗要在自卫和军事威慑问题上向敌人屈服,尤其是对以色列?放弃核能力并削减弹道导弹?换句话说,就是让自己毫无防御能力。
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