日产前高管表示:在西方与中国的电动车竞争中,混合动力车是一条通向地狱之路
2025-01-02 UP机器人 9095
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日产前高管安迪·帕尔默表示,“混合动力车是一条通向地狱之路。它们只是过渡策略,而你在这种过渡阶段停留得越久,迈向新世界的步伐就越慢,”
他还表示,“如果你只是通过发展混合动力车来延迟向电动汽车转型,那么你会在更长时间内处于竞争劣势,并让中国继续拓展市场并巩固其领先地位。我真心认为这是徒劳无益的。”
帕尔默对中国电动汽车的崛起给予了高度评价:“中国汽车非常棒,物超所值。他们的电池技术是一流的,并且高度重视软件开发。中国电动汽车行业的成功归功于中国长期的产业战略。

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@czasamitrudno
Not only do Chinese manufacturers profit from economies of scale, but also from the complete value chain, located domestically

中国制造商不仅有规模经济优势,还拥有完整的国内产业链。

@chopinmack5418
Toyota Hybrids - Big Engines / Small Batteries !
BYD Hybrids - Small Engines / Big Batteries !

丰田混动 - 大发动机/小电池!
BYD混动 - 小发动机/大电池!

@undisclosedthai
I think Toyota hybrids (and maybe all Japanese hybrids) are small in both

我觉得丰田混动(可能所有日系混动都是)发动机和电池都很小。

@lorimcquinn3966
I'll take the Toyota, always.

我选丰田,永远选丰田。

@rozonoemi9374
That is why Toyota will get there hybride from BYD as they are superior.

这就是为什么丰田要从比亚迪那里获得混动系统,因为比亚迪的就是更好。

@JDMSwervo2001
Toyota has been doing hybrids for over 2 decades they know what they are doing

丰田搞混动都20多年了,他们懂得很。

@zaitinmak5671
Yes, Toyota found their own Hybrids not good enough, and they decided to stop making their own Hybrids.
New Hybrids from Toyota are made by BYD, with Toyota logo. They know what they are doing !

是啊,丰田自己都觉得自家混动不够好,决定不自己造了。丰田新款混动都是比亚迪造的,就贴个丰田标。他们知道自己在干啥!
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@lorimcquinn3966
They are not sold in the U.S. at this point and with future tariffs, I doubt they will be. That said, What makes them superior? Toyota has a strong following in the U.S. in regards to HYBRIDS, reputation is very solid. I don't feel Toyota will risk their reputation for what amounts to a communist product that was possibly copied from another country's manufacturing. Spend some time in China and learn the truth.

现在美国还没卖,再加上以后要加关税,我看悬。再说了,哪儿就比丰田强了?
丰田在美国的混动口碑可是相当好的。我可不觉得丰田会为了一个***的产品搭上自己的名声,何况这玩意儿还可能是抄别人的。你去中国待一阵子就知道真相了。(***政党或名字 下同)

@deepseer
BYD's batteries are considered to be small by Chinese standards, but huge by Western standards. Their entry-level models have "only" 70km of battery range.

要按中国标准看,比亚迪的电池算小的,但在西方标准下就算大的了。它们入门款的纯电续航也有70公里呢。

@henkjan673
Well, since Toyota is already going to use the BYD hybrid drivetrain for their next models, looks like Toyota didnt think their reputation would suffer. But hey, buy that quality Toyota and avoid that copycat Chinese product. Or even better, buy that quality US product and avoid that crappy Japanese product, they probably copied from the US anyway. Today it is very hard to figure out quality from the badge alone. Companies that were once reliable are going for the maximum profit (looking at you BMW and Mercedes with your plastic parts in the engine) and looks like the reliable replacements are going for cost cutting as well (looking at you Toyota, Honda, Nissan).

既然丰田都要用比亚迪的混动系统了,看来他们也不觉得会影响名声嘛。继续买你的“优质”丰田吧,躲着点那“山寨”中国货。
或者更彻底一点,买美国货,别买日本货,反正日本货八成也是抄美国的。
如今光看品牌很难判断质量了。以前可靠的品牌现在都在追求最大利润(说的就是你们——宝马奔驰,发动机里都用塑料件),那些可靠的替代品牌也开始偷工减料了(说的就是你们——丰田、本田、日产)。

@f1aziz
He's talking about upcoming models which will be based on licensed BYD hybrid tech. Toyota hybrid tech today is essentially the same as what it was 30 years ago with some upgrades, while the battery technology has leapfrogged by miles. The batteries used in Toyota hybrid tech are not even in the same universe compared to what the Chinese battery tech is today, plus Toyota has no industrial capacity, technical skills and supply chains to produce these new batteries at scale.

他说的是即将推出的新车型,那些都是用比亚迪授权的混动技术。
丰田现在的混动技术本质上还是30年前那套,就是稍微升级了一下,而电池技术早就突飞猛进了。
丰田混动用的电池跟现在中国的电池技术简直不在一个层面上。
而且丰田既没有产能,也没有技术能力和供应链来规模化生产这些新电池。

@ZweiZwolf
Yup. Toyota knows that BYD Dual Mode EV-based system is better than their ICE-primary Hybrid Synergy Drive.

没错,丰田也知道比亚迪的双模系统比他们那个以内燃机为主的混合动力系统强。

@ZweiZwolf
BYD DM system has much higher thermal efficiency than HSD, optimized for electrical generation at a much narrower rpm and power/torque point, rather than a wide range of torque/power. BYD also has much better battery management and EV drive software

比亚迪的DM系统热效率比丰田的HSD高多了,专门为发电优化了更窄的转速和功率/扭矩范围,而不是宽泛的扭矩/功率范围。比亚迪的电池管理和电驱软件也强很多。
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@johnnycooper630
I agree, i just returned from china 2 of the leading makers i toured, are really making serious progress.
Quality,speed to.market we here in n.a. are saddled with to much legacy and cultural redundancy we are going to get hurt if we dont understand the car is a commodity now. Anyone can build them
We have our blinders on ,major shift coming

同意,我刚从中国回来,参观了两家顶尖厂商,他们真的进步神速。质量和上市速度都很给力。
我们北美被太多传统包袱和旧文化拖累,如果不认清汽车已经成为普通商品、谁都能造的现实,我们会吃大亏的。我们现在视而不见,大变革就要来了。

@johnnycooper630
nothing is a fits all , we run 2 evs at the house my daughter drives 30 mi ea way to college daily loves it
Wife about 60 mi day running g around and both charge at home and like it alot
We have f250 dsl and other cars but really they sit 90% time

没有什么是万能的,我家有两辆电动车,女儿每天上下学开30英里,老婆每天到处跑要开60英里,都在家充电,都挺喜欢的。我们还有F250柴油车和其他车,但90%时间都不开。

@simpromovie
BYD PHEVs are EVs with electric motors and a small ICE range extender that works as a generator. That is totally different to western and japanese PHEVs....

比亚迪的插混本质是电动车,配备电机和小型增程式内燃机发电机。这跟欧美日的插混完全是两码事……

@deepseer
There are some Japanese PHEVs have a small ICE and a larger battery (but still smaller than BYD's), such as Honda's CR-V PHEV and Accord PHEV. However, these Japanese PHEVs are not from scratch, but are modifications of the ICEV. In the Accord PHEV, for example, the battery has been placed in the boot behind the rear seat, creating "a step (of a staircase)" in the boot.

有些日系插混也是小发动机大电池(但还是比不上比亚迪的大),比如本田CR-V插混和雅阁插混。
不过这些日系插混不是从零开始设计的,是在燃油车基础上改的。比如雅阁,电池放在后座后面的后备箱里,导致后备箱里有个台阶。

@GraysonA
BMW i3 REX is like that

宝马i3增程版就是这样的。
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@KhalilLockman
EREVs : Extended Range Electric Vehicle, will be very good for a pickup truck and towing or maybe a Ford Bronco for off-road

增程式电动车很适合皮卡和拖挂,或者福特野马这种越野车。
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@williamreese6642
China is losing jobs, let me explain, China has a lot of people building gas cars , they will be out of a job, these newer ev cars take much fewer employees .

中国在流失就业岗位,我来解释下:中国有很多人在造燃油车,他们要失业了,这些新电动车用不了那么多员工。

@PPPENG-h8m
Are you sure? Volkswagen only hired 80000 employees in China, but now BYD alone has one million employees
BMW i3 is only sold for $20000 in China

你确定吗?大众在中国才雇了8万人,但现在光比亚迪就有100万员工了。
宝马i3在中国才卖2万美元。

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@GraysonA
I would not buy i3 in China. I'd buy xiaomi SU7 :D

我才不会买中国的i3呢,我要买小米SU7。

@ZweiZwolf
China is gaining jobs because they sell more NEVs than the rest of the world combined, and NEV market is growing rapidly.

中国的就业岗位在增加,因为他们卖的新能源车比全世界其他地方加起来还多,而且新能源车市场还在快速增长。

@deepseer
In fact, it is a series-parallel PHEV. EREV is series PHEV. Many European PHEVs are parallel PHEVs.
Series-parallel means it can switch between two modes. At low speeds it works in the same way as an EREV.

实际上,这是一种串-并联插电混动。
增程式电动车是串联插电混动。很多欧洲的混动是并联插电混动。
串-并联意味着它可以在两种模式之间切换。在低速时,它的工作方式和增程式电动车一样。

@711colonel
When a country has a good charging infrastructure. Range anxiety will not be an issue…

只要一个国家有完善的充电设施,续航焦虑根本就不是问题……

@EricLarsWermerssen
„We are on the road to nowhere!" - Automotive Industrie in Germany

德国汽车工业正在通往死胡同!
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@Piecenotwar
Hybrids just add complexity and associated cost with very little gain.

混动车只是徒增复杂性和相关成本,却几乎没什么好处。

@d33763
The fact that companies like Nissan and Toyota still have shareholders is a miracle itself.

日产和丰田这样的公司居然还有股东,简直是个奇迹。

@TuonoV4F
yet it has the most sales in australia.

不过它在澳大利亚的销量倒是最高的。

@elenabob4953
When that vision comes from the directors of a company that took an extremely profitable company like Nissan on the brink of bankruptcy because "they know best" I laugh my ass*** off.

看到这帮自以为是的公司高管,把一个超级赚钱的日产搞得快破产了,我都笑掉大牙了。

@BazzaMarama
One of the key differences between full ev and hybrid is the need with hybrids to still pay for regular maintenance of the combustion engine. As well of course the emissions. For those reasons I also can’t see why buyers would refer a hybrid.

纯电动车和混动车的一个关键区别是,混动车还得定期花钱维护内燃机。当然还有排放问题。就这两点,我也想不通买家为啥会选混动。
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@FlorestanTrement
Loosing the EV competition know is akin to loose air supremacy in a war. Once it is lost, it can't be recovered unless the other party becomes extremely complacent and incompetent, as it takes a long time to build new planes or build up better EV tech.

现在输掉电动车竞争,就像战争中丢失制空权一样。一旦失去,除非对手极度懈怠和无能,否则就很难再夺回来了,因为研发更好的电动车技术需要很长时间。

@trungson6604
Nissan's problems are due to wasting a lot of money on the Leaf BEV that didn't sell well, and a lot of money on belt CVTs that are very crappy. If Nissan has focused on Hybrids without making those two crappy things like BEV and CVT, then Nissan would still be doing very well today.

日产的问题在于在销量惨淡的聆风电动车上烧了太多钱,还在那些超烂的皮带式无级变速器上投入巨资。要是日产专注于混动技术,不搞这两个糟心玩意儿,现在肯定还混得风生水起。

@slimjimnyc270
My sister wanted to buy an EV but there were no chargers near her apartment (we tried looking w/ in a 5 block radius in NYC). She spoke w/ her condo association & they have NO PLANS to install chargers in her parking garage either. She finally decided on a Hybrid.

我姐想买电动车,但她公寓附近根本没充电桩(我们在纽约找了方圆5个街区都没有)。她跟物业协会商量,人家明确表示不打算在停车场装充电桩。她最后只好选了混动车。

@williamgrunzweig571
That's reasonable. I can't blame your sister. I'd go a similar route if I was unable to have home charging. I've commented that condos and apartments unwilling or unable to add chargers will be the limiting factor.

这也情有可原。换我没法在家充电,也会做类似的选择。我一直说,公寓和住宅楼不愿意或没法安装充电桩,这才是限制因素。

@crosslix1493
If someone is using the logic/philosophy you present at about 4:50 in this video then they would never buy a new car (regardless of powertrain) because there's always something new coming along in the near future. You are espousing a comment made by a Nissan executive, but look where Nissan is as a company these days. China captures market through heavily subsidizing target industries, but what would happen if those subsidies disappeared and Chinese companies had to compete on the world market?

如果按照视频4分50秒左右你说的那种逻辑和理念,那就永远别买新车了(不管什么动力系统),因为总有更新的东西即将出现。
你在这引述日产高管的话,可你看看日产现在混成什么样了。
中国是通过大规模补贴新产业来抢占市场,但如果这些补贴没了,中国企业在世界市场上还能竞争得过谁?

@allanroom
nissan totally lost the ev gamble and overlooked the hybrid techs. Now they will be absorbed into honda.

日产在电动车上完全押错了宝,还忽视了混动技术。现在只能被本田吞并了。
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@mafj
Many reasons not to go for ev, in couple of years they woll be better and cheaper and infrastructure will be more developed. No reason to rush

有太多理由不买电动车,再等几年它们会变得更好更便宜,基础设施也会更完善。不着急入手。

@8peterp
for people live in apartment ,large city ,hybrids will be always a great option.

对住在公寓、大城市的人来说,混动车永远都是个不错的选择。

@justinsellers9402
I bought a Chevy Volt plug in hybrid 5 years ago. I chose it specifically because I wanted the cost savings of the electric, which calculates to 100 mpg comparing prices of electric to gas, and because I live in a very rural area, where there was no external charging station within an hour of my home. In that time, I have been very happy with it. It has been the best car I've ever owned, and the savings is quite good.

我5年前买了辆雪佛兰Volt插电混动车。选它就是因为想省电费。
把电费和油费比较算下来相当于百英里耗油量只有1加仑,而且我住在特别偏远的农村,方圆一小时车程内都没有公共充电桩。
这些年用下来,我特别满意。这是我开过最好的车,省钱效果也相当不错。

@andreucfreire1328
In Brazil the infrastructure is terrible, and people jus stop for hours in posts and go do anything they need. In Brazil it will not work.

巴西的基础设施太烂了,人们在加油站一停就是几个小时,然后该干啥干啥去了。在巴西这根本行不通。

@alexroc172
I would love to purchase a good Chinese EV without the ridiculous taxes that are levied in the UK!

我真想买辆好的中国电动车,要是英国别收那么离谱的税就好了!

@networm78
Sure, but the Chinese are also leading in BEVs. So they are grabbing share from both markets.

确实,但中国在纯电动车领域也是领先的。所以他们在两个市场都在抢份额。

@swainp2012
Basically Toyota haven’t brought any innovation to automobiles in last 20 years. Sitting idle mostly and making incremental improvements to ICE. And they have no one else to blame. The idea that they want to give all the options to customers just shows that they are unable to compete in EV.

说白了,丰田这20年里在汽车领域就没啥创新。基本上就是闲着,偶尔给内燃机做点小改进。
现在他们怪不了别人。
说什么要给消费者所有选择,其实就是掩饰他们在电动车领域竞争不过别人。

@davidbeppler3032
I notice that GM, Ford, VW have all cut production and closed factories. How can they survive by selling less cars for more money? Who can afford $150k for a 2028 F-150 base model?

我注意到通用、福特、大众都在减产关厂。怎么可能靠价格更贵,销量更少生存?
2028 F-150基础款要卖15万美元,谁买得起啊?

@soothingunboxing7129
Chinese EVs are at 700 kms range, at that range no more need for hybdrids whose sole selling point is more range than old evs.

中国电动车续航都到700公里了。混动车唯一的卖点就是比老款电动车续航更远。在这个续航里程下,这下没优势了。

@jimclarence5441
If the 700 kms is true....well that would be great. But what there reality of the range....especially in cold weather, or the AC working or car or hilly roads with four people and luggage. But let's hope 700 kms is true, then maybe in a few years it will be 1000kms and more.

要是真能跑700公里那确实很棒。但实际续航到底如何呢……
特别是在寒冷天气、开着空调、带着四个人和行李走山路的情况下。
不过希望700公里是真的,那过几年说不定就能到1000公里甚至更多了。

@elenabob4953
I don't care what has to say a director with ZERO VISION that was on the steering wheel while their company was driven into bankruptcy

我才不在乎一个毫无远见的主管说什么,这家伙在任的时候眼睁睁看着公司破产。

@PaulStephenson-lf2dw
In the USA full EV adoption will continue to be slow due to a lack of charging infrastructure and rapid technological improvements on EV batteries to alleviate range anxiety. The incoming administration will do little to change that. That’s why the demand is high for HEV’s and PHEV’s. They also fit our driving lifestyle better.

在美国,由于缺乏充电设施,再加上电池技术还在快速发展中,人们对续航里程的焦虑迟迟无法缓解。
新一届政府也难以改变这种状况。这就是为什么混动和插混车型需求这么火爆。这类车更适合我们的驾驶习惯。

@andreucfreire1328
I don't think relay on any Chinese auto is a very clever. 400 auto makers with 2 making profits is a good recepy for bobbels, and after the real estate bobble blow, how good will they handle the banks. Economies are living complex systems with a lot of interdependence. Highly risky.

我觉得依赖中国汽车可不是个明智之举。四百家车企只有两家盈利,这不就是典型的泡沫吗?
再说了,房地产泡沫都破了,他们怎么应付银行危机?经济是个复杂的生态系统,环环相扣。风险太大了。

@vekaterava-jd2ui
Do not drive your plugin hybrid like EV! Don't ask me how I know. The small hybrid drive battery gets unusable before 100.000 miles. It reaches 3.000 estimated cycles far too soon.

千万别把插混当纯电用!别问我怎么知道的。那个小电池不到十万英里就废了。充放电循环三千次的寿命太快了。

@rossdunn2317
Surely hybrid’s are, or soon will be, more expensive to manufacture than BEVs. Therefore they can’t be price competitive. And so you can’t imagine them being popular in the future.

混动车的制造成本肯定比纯电动高,或者很快就会更高。
这样一来就没法在价格上竞争。所以你根本不用想它们在未来会受欢迎。

@Raumance
Plug in hybrids also have the most maintenance issues.

插混车的维修问题也是最多的。

@ChickensAndGardening
Can you provide some evidence of that? Because I don't know of any maintenance issues with Toyota PHEV's around here. Totally reliable, as most Toyotas are.

你能拿出证据来吗?因为我这边的丰田插电混动车可没听说有什么维修问题。跟大多数丰田一样靠谱。

@JDMSwervo2001
it’s actually less. You’re just changing the oil and spark plus that’s about it

实际上维修更少。就换换机油和火花塞就完事了。

@Raumance
No. Plug in hybrids have by far the most issues out of all car types. So it's actually not less if you have any idea about the statistics involved. Now internal battery hybrids I don't know where those fall on the spectrum. But plug in hybrids have the most faults far beyond what normal gas cars have.

不对。插混在所有类型的车里故障率是最高的。你要是了解统计数据就知道,维修根本不会更少。
至于普通混动车的故障率在哪个水平我倒不清楚。但插混的故障率比普通汽油车高得多。

@arnej2174
From Canada.we need charging infrastructure and a cost effective product ,we drive long distances and our cold weather is not conducive to getting a reasonable battery range.My new 2024 Lexus ES300h hybrid provides a luxury ride with 5L/100km usage and price was reasonable.It uses half to a third the amount of gas my previous vehicles used.ex Lexus LS or Toyota Sequoia.

来自加拿大的反馈。我们这需要充电设施,而且产品要实惠。我们开车要跑很远,寒冷天气下电池续航也不乐观。
我新买的2024款雷克萨斯ES300h混动车,开起来舒适豪华,百公里油耗才5升,价格也合理。比我之前的雷克萨斯LS或者丰田红杉省油一半到三分之二。

@billthomas8994
Agree that hybrids had their time in the sun, but now it’s time to go straight to EVs. The legacy makers can only rely on public ignorance for so long.

同意混动车的黄金时代已经过去了,现在该直接转向纯电动了。传统车企也就只能靠着消费者的无知撑一会儿了。

@1maico1
If you look at the parts count in the current Honda Civic hybrid in the UK and European market, it's massive. The car is no longer a cheap, reliable hatchback but an expensive, fiendishly complicated one moving between 4 different power modes. An all electric car will be much cheaper and simpler to make with falling battery costs.

看看英国和欧洲市场现在的本田思域混动版增加了多少零件就知道了,数量惊人。
这已经不是那种便宜又可靠的掀背车了,而是变成了在四种动力模式之间切换的复杂玩意儿,还贵得要死。
随着电池成本下降,纯电动车肯定会变得更便宜也更简单。

@zelareka
the problem is how fast and where can I charge my car, when will it be solved?

问题是我的车在哪充电?充电要多久?这什么时候才能解决?

@JDMSwervo2001
What do Nissan execs know? Their company is failing

日产那些高管懂个屁?他们公司都快完蛋了。

@brandon-hh7jf
Having two power trains, ICE and electric is ultimately never going to be price competitive.
Hybrid competitiveness relies on 2020 as being peak for EV technology.

同时装两套动力系统,油电加电动,这价格永远都竞争不过别人。混动车的竞争力完全建立在电动车技术在2020年就停滞不前的假设上。

@carusmike
we are still in the age of the hybrid, while we wait for evs. it is not a myth that we get a dozen battery gamechangers each year, and ev manufacturers are going bust. still in the time of the hybrid for a few more years, and I love mine. get your tech sorted first.

在等待电动车普及的过程中,我们还处在混动时代。
每年都说有十几个所谓的电池技术突破,但电动车企业接连倒闭,这可不是瞎说的。
未来几年还得靠混动撑着,我就挺喜欢我的混动车。先把技术搞定再说吧。

@nickmcconnell1291
I agree with Nissan about hybrids. However part of the problem is that Nissan doesn't have one on the shelf that it could sell to the muppet masses.... or they would do it.

我同意日产对混动车的看法。不过问题在于日产自己没有现成的混动车可以卖给那帮傻瓜消费者……要不然他们早就这么干了。

@drwisdom1
Do we really want to take the advice from the people who mismanaged Nissan causing it to fail?

我们真的要听那帮把日产搞垮的人的建议吗?

@ReneSt.Jacques
Crazy having 2 systems in a car msintsince crazy expensive to service electrical/battery system and then service girl side system costs crazy to build as well compared to a singular system

在一辆车上装两套系统简直疯了。维修电气系统和电池贵得要死,再加上要保养传统系统。造起来比单一系统贵多了。

@gerardmillar1680
I bought my hybrid 7 years ago. I love it. Uses half the gas of a conventional gas engine. Still works like a charm. Not sure if my next car with be an EV or hybrid.

我的混动车买了7年了。我很喜欢。比传统汽油车省一半油。到现在还跑得好好的。不过下一辆车买电动还是混动,我还没想好。

@Wasteabuse
I just bought a hybrid, a used 2021 with low miles, for cheap. I need it to last 5 years until electrics have gained more share, and more charging infrastructure is installed here in the USA, and my other half is convinced they are practical.

我刚买了一辆二手混动车,2021年的,公里数很少,价格便宜。希望它能撑5年,等到那时电动车份额更大了,美国这边的充电设施也更完善了,那时候我另一半也能相信电动车是实用的了。

@chinogambino9375
The Chinese can afford to lose money to establish industry, the Japanese and Americans can't. I see now real way for them to get ahead of the Chinese even if they have access to the same batteries. They will have to figure out something to distinguish themselves on at a higher price.

中国人可以靠亏本来打造产业,日本人和美国人可做不到。就算用同样的电池,我也看不出他们怎么能超过中国。他们只能想办法在高价位上靠其他特色来区分自己了。

@andreucfreire1328
Besides China who has a good recharging infrastructure?

除了中国还有哪个国家的充电设施做得好?
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@davidinkster1296
Australia

澳大利亚。

@skullfc4215
It's called a house charger! If you can't put one where you live, depending all the time on outside chargers is more expensive and less convenient, which makes an hybrid better

那叫家用充电桩!如果你住的地方装不了充电桩,整天靠外面的充电桩不仅更贵还更麻烦,这种情况混动车反而更合适。

@lenggenhagermarkus6964
I have been driving electric here in Thailand for years without any problems

我在泰国开电动车已经好几年了,从来没遇到过什么问题。

@lkolonis
Totally agree! Now considering that Li auto has a market cap of more than Xpeng and Nio combined, you can see that there is an imballance..

完全同意!现在理想汽车的市值居然比小鹏和蔚来加起来还高,这明显不太合理啊。

@donmills5341
Byd's Dmi hybrid technology is the future.

比亚迪的DM-i混动技术就是未来。

@Bemx2k
Hybrids are the most flammable vehicles on this planet

混动车是这星球上最容易着火的车。

@Dallialli1
I think this guy is getting paid by some Chinese car manufacturer. He just praises Chinese cars, but doesn't say one bad thing about them. We see that Chinese cars still have many design flaws compared to Western cars, especially in winter conditions.

我觉得这家伙肯定收了中国车企的钱。他就知道吹捧中国车,就是不说一句他们的缺点。大家都看得出来,和西方车比,中国车在设计上还有很多缺陷,尤其是在冬天的表现。
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@ianxyoutube
Such as? I have just been in China and asked a few taxi drivers about their e vehicles. They were very positive. What issues are there?

比如哪些缺陷?我刚从中国回来,还问了好几个出租车司机他们开电动车的感受。他们评价都挺好的。到底有什么问题啊?

@gerbenkarman3372
Here in the Netherlands the biggest taxi company (TCA) in the second largest city of the country: Rotterdam. Just chose BYD as its partner for new vehicles. I guess taxi companies choose their cars based on reliability and cost efficiency. As well as the start of zero-emission zones for commercial vehicles starting on 1st of Jan 2025 in dozens of large cities here.

在荷兰这边,鹿特丹(全国第二大城市)最大的出租车公司TCA刚选择了比亚迪作为新车供应商。
我猜出租车公司选车主要看可靠性和成本效益。再说这边很多大城市从2025年1月1日起就要开始对商用车实行零排放区域政策了。

@georgepappas4628
Chinese manufacturers, including BYD, have plug-in hybrids. I don't see the problem with having hybrids as a gateway to a future electric car.

包括比亚迪在内的中国厂商都有插电混动车型。我觉得把混动车作为过渡到纯电动车的跳板没什么问题。

@Allwelfare
BYD is selling PHEV to create a gateway to their Brand to evs. Excellent business strategy. No wonder they are penetrating to every market or even competitors" manufacturing (Toyota).

比亚迪卖插混就是为了给他们的品牌打开进军电动车市场的大门。这商业策略太高明了。难怪他们不光打入了各个市场,连竞争对手(丰田)的生产线都打入了。

@ZweiZwolf
Nissan is correct that ICE-only hybrids, like the original Prius, are a dead end. Plug-in hybrids with moderate electric range of 40 - 100 km on battery backed by a small range-extender are an excellent all-around solution, as they not only improve mileage like the Prius, but can cover a lot of daily driving mostly or entirely on battery while still providing long-distance range when needed.

日产说得对,像第一代普锐斯那样的普通混动确实是死路一条。
不过带有40-100公里电池续航里程,再加上小型增程器的插电混动,才是最好的全面解决方案。
这种车不仅能像普锐斯一样省油,还能应付大部分日常通勤(基本全靠电池),需要长途驾驶时也不用愁。

@michellehavre6821
i love the Chinese just sitting sweetly regardless what the customers want at the end of the day........... electric ICE hybrid or anything

我喜欢中国人这种淡定的样子,不管顾客最后想要什么……纯电、燃油、混动还是啥都行。

@undisclosedthai
In a country where people are generally impatient such as Thailand, waiting for charging becomes a road to hell instead.

在泰国这种人们普遍没什么耐心的国家,等着充电简直就是“一条通往地狱之路”。

@robertbrandywine
For the last 5 years, hybrids have been selling very, very well, in the U.S. You have to sell the cars that you can make and sell *today*, not what will sell when the bugs are worked out of the technology.

过去5年,混动车在美国卖得可好了。你得卖那些现在就能生产和销售的车,而不是等着技术完全成熟了再说。

@Charlie-xx2wj
If hybrids are not the wave of the future then why are 80% of BYD cars are hybrids and 20% full EVs? The current majority of US cars are hybrids.

要是混动不是未来趋势,那为啥比亚迪80%的车都是混动,只有20%是纯电动?美国现在大部分车不也是混动吗。

@larryc1616
BYD hybrids have either a range extender that uses gas or a small engine with a large battery which are different than legacy hybrids with small batteries and bigger engines.

比亚迪的混动要么是增程式,要么是大电池配小发动机,跟传统那种小电池大发动机的混动不一样。

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