QA问答:起初,每个人都认为“中国制造 2030”名单是真实的。但最近的事件表明并非如此。中国真的能做到吗?到 2030 年,也就是 5 年后,中国真的能制造自己的飞机、半导体、电动汽车等吗?
2025-01-22 青丘国的守护者 15868
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Everyone at first thought 'Made in China 2030' list, was real. But recent events suggest otherwise. Can China actually do it? Can China really make its own aeroplanes, semiconductors, electric cars, etc., by 2030, just 5 years from now?

起初大家都认为“中国制造2030”清单是真实的。但最近的事件表明并非如此。中国真的能做到吗?中国真的能在2030年,也就是5年后,制造自己的飞机、半导体、电动汽车等吗?
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Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam
Let's see the list of Chinese achievements between 2015–2025
Indigenous Fighter Aircraft Engines
Indigenous On board Radar
Indigenous Avionics
Indigenous Wind Tunnel
Indigenous Commercial Aircraft Body (Duralium)
Indigenous Aircraft Wheels
Indigenous Landing Gear
Full Dominance in Legacy Chips (<= 45 nm Node process) manufacturing
Dominance in Chip Design (Upto 3 nm)
Indigenous Stealth Technology
Indigenous Rare Earth Refining dominance
Indigenous Green Energy Technologies - Hydrogen, Batteries
Indigenous Nuclear Technology
Indigenous Satellite design & manufacturing
Indigenous Satellite Constellation and Navigation
Indigenous 5G Equipment and Communications edge
China has achieved “Par” or even “Dominant” Status in all these areas in the last decade
Here is the list of things China aims to develop Par Status by 2035:-
Optical Instruments & Opto electronics
Manufacturing Dominance in Non Legacy Chips (7–28 nm Node Process)
Indigenous supply chain for GPU Chips
Indigenous 6G Equipment and Communications edge
MRI Machines
Immunotherapy Drugs for Cancer & Auto Immune Diseases
Commercial Aircraft Engines
Commercial Aircraft Body (Composite Materials)
Hypersonic Missiles
Advanced Stealth Technology
I see no reason why China can't achieve their demands between 2025–2035

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam
Let's see the list of Chinese achievements between 2015–2025
Indigenous Fighter Aircraft Engines
Indigenous On board Radar
Indigenous Avionics
Indigenous Wind Tunnel
Indigenous Commercial Aircraft Body (Duralium)
Indigenous Aircraft Wheels
Indigenous Landing Gear
Full Dominance in Legacy Chips (<= 45 nm Node process) manufacturing
Dominance in Chip Design (Upto 3 nm)
Indigenous Stealth Technology
Indigenous Rare Earth Refining dominance
Indigenous Green Energy Technologies - Hydrogen, Batteries
Indigenous Nuclear Technology
Indigenous Satellite design & manufacturing
Indigenous Satellite Constellation and Navigation
Indigenous 5G Equipment and Communications edge
China has achieved “Par” or even “Dominant” Status in all these areas in the last decade
Here is the list of things China aims to develop Par Status by 2035:-
Optical Instruments & Opto electronics
Manufacturing Dominance in Non Legacy Chips (7–28 nm Node Process)
Indigenous supply chain for GPU Chips
Indigenous 6G Equipment and Communications edge
MRI Machines
Immunotherapy Drugs for Cancer & Auto Immune Diseases
Commercial Aircraft Engines
Commercial Aircraft Body (Composite Materials)
Hypersonic Missiles
Advanced Stealth Technology
I see no reason why China can't achieve their demands between 2025–2035

让我们看看中国在2015-2025年间的成就:
自主研发的战斗机发动机,
自主研发的机载雷达,
自主研发的航空电子设备,
自主研发的风洞,
自主研发的商用飞机机身(硬铝),
自主研发的飞机轮子,
自主研发的起落架,
在传统芯片(<= 45纳米节点工艺)制造领域的全面主导地位,
在芯片设计(最高3纳米)领域的主导地位,
自主研发的隐身技术,
在稀土精炼领域的主导地位,
自主研发的绿色能源技术——氢能、电池
自主研发的核技术,
自主研发的卫星设计与制造,
自主研发的卫星星座和导航系统,
自主研发的5G设备和通信优势,
在过去十年中,中国在这些领域已经达到“同等水平”甚至“主导地位”。
以下是到2035年中国计划达到同等水平的领域:
光学仪器与光电子学,
在非传统芯片(7-28纳米节点工艺)制造领域的主导地位,
GPU芯片的自主供应链,
自主研发的6G设备和通信优势,
MRI机器,
癌症和自身免疫性疾病的免疫治疗药物,
商用飞机发动机,
商用飞机机身(复合材料),
高超音速导弹,
先进的隐身技术,
我看不出中国为什么不能在2025-2035年间实现这些目标。


Ashby Lisbon
For hypersonic missiles, I believe China is already world leading.

对于高超音速导弹,我相信中国已经是世界领先了。

Cheong Tee
Many decades ago China hosted a hypersonic research conference. A scientist from US was surprised that China would publish pressure field signature data, because such data could be used to design anti-hypersonic weapons. Chinese scientists did not feel a need to be defensive at that time.

几十年前,中国举办了一次高超音速研究会议。一位来自美国的科学家惊讶于中国会公开压力场特征数据,因为这些数据可以用来设计反高超音速武器。当时中国科学家并不觉得需要采取防御姿态。
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Kiara
No. Russia is leading. China currently has only hybrid glide vehicle. Russia is leading followed by India and then by China.

不,俄罗斯才是领先的。中国目前只有混合滑翔飞行器。俄罗斯领先,其次是印度,然后是中国。

Simon Dan
Can you prove that?

你能证明这一点吗?

Kiara
Okay, name the Chinese alternative to Russia's hypersonic cruise missile Zircon. The same Zircon will be made in India as Brahmos 2.

好吧,说出中国能替代俄罗斯“锆石”高超音速巡航导弹的武器。同样的“锆石”将在印度制造,称为“布拉莫斯2”。

Koh Soo Thiam
India no.2? You joker.

印度第二?你在开玩笑吧。

Kiara
It is true, right? Or else prove me wrong.

这是真的,否则你证明我错了。
Lù Shèng An 陆盛安

Lololololololol

哈哈哈哈哈哈

Kiara
Name your Chinese hypersonic cruise missile.

说出中国的高超音速巡航导弹的名字。

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Moa Aier
China has crossed the tipping point in innovation, development and making breakthroughs. There isn't anything that can really pull or hold back China's development now. As ASML Chief said, “the laws of physics is the same everywhere”, referring that sanctions cannot hold back China from developing their own UEV machines. But the US and the west still seems to think otherwise.

中国已经在创新、发展和突破方面越过了临界点。现在没有什么能真正阻止中国的发展。正如ASML首席执行官所说,“物理定律在任何地方都是一样的”,这意味着制裁无法阻止中国开发自己的极紫外光刻机。但美国和西方似乎仍然不这么认为。

Sathyaswamy S
India will lead the world in manufacturing cow dung chips and gaumutra fuel for vehicles.

印度将在制造牛粪芯片和牛尿燃料方面引领世界。
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ShaanChowdhary
I think India can out produce every nation in reproduction and that's the plan of current govt, free ration for rabble so they can keep the production process going for ever.. Mean while the middle class we export to other nations will build that nation.

我认为印度可以在人口繁殖方面超过任何国家,这是当前政府的计划,为底层提供免费口粮,以便他们能永远保持繁殖过程。与此同时,我们出口到其他国家的中产阶级将帮助建设那些国家。

Glenn Lee
America has 4 year election cycles, much campaigning, many speeches, something gets done. China has the 5 year plan or 5 year goals; much get done.

美国有4年的选举周期,大量的竞选活动,许多演讲,有些事情会完成。中国有5年计划或5年目标;很多事情会完成。

Victory Srinivas
Yes I agree with you, China's speed of Development is unprecedented for a Developing country

是的,我同意你的观点,中国的发展速度对于一个发展中国家来说是前所未有的。

Siva Kumar
Good morning sir

早上好,先生。
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Karthibio Karthi
Treachorous fuddus like KB must be dragged out in the sun and given proper belt treatment by law enforcement agencies with salt rubbed on the wounds. That account is no senior citizen nor Indian. It is a Chinese stooge under Chinese/Pxtani payroll (i.e, if Paxtan has the money to pay). It is the account (or multiple accounts) of a traitor.
Serpents like KB are dangerous for the country. They are like covert Maists too. They need to be weeded out by the law enforcement agencies and dealt accordingly. They must be made to rot in prison for years.

像KB这样的叛徒必须被拖到阳光下,由执法机构用皮带好好教训一顿,并在伤口上撒盐。他这个账号既不是老年人也不是印度人。它是中国或巴基斯坦(如果巴基斯坦有钱支付的话)收买的走狗。这是一个叛徒的账号(或多个账号)。
像KB这样的毒蛇对国家是危险的。他们也是隐蔽的毛派分子。他们需要被执法机构清除并依法处理。他们必须在监狱里腐烂多年。

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Seeto Yunguang
NOT ONLY WILL CHINA LEAD IN TECHNOLOGY…
THE US WILL BEG FOR MERCY AND SHARING OF THEIR IPs INSTEAD OF BIG MOUTHING CHINA STEALS ITS IPs…
SUCH IS THE GENIUS OF CHINA AND ITS PEOPLE…
FOREVER STRIVING TO DO BETTER, BETTER AND BEST…WHILST THE ROBBER US NATION’S PEOPLE SITS ON THEIR FAT ARSES AND GROW FAT EATING THEIR MAC AND KFCs TO HARI KARI….

中国不仅将在技术上领先……
美国将乞求宽恕并分享他们的知识产权,而不是大嘴巴说中国偷了他们的知识产权……
这就是中国及其人民的智慧……
永远追求更好、更好和最好……而强盗美国的人民则坐在他们肥大的屁股上,吃着麦当劳和肯德基,变得越来越胖,直到自取灭亡……

Wallan Wallan
US would just steal the technology. Natural for a country which government speak with a forked tongue, where black is white.

美国只会偷技术。对于一个政府说话像蛇一样、黑白颠倒的国家来说,这很正常。

Suseel Nair
China has stolen so far, let US do it now.

中国已经偷了这么多,现在让美国也偷吧。

Suseel Nair
Was the aircrafts in Vedas , Subsonic, Supersonic or Hypersonic?

《吠陀经》中的飞机是亚音速、超音速还是高超音速的?

Philip L
Well aiding for dominance of non-legacy chips is not so friendly to competition isn’t it? I don’t support the chip war but that certainly worries the industry.
Also highly doubt that China is dominating chip design.

支持非传统芯片的主导地位对竞争并不友好,不是吗?
我不支持芯片战争,但这确实让行业感到担忧。
我也高度怀疑中国在芯片设计领域的主导地位。

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Goku San
india and like democracy country this is what you can only talk like free bird check comments your section a wise man trolling india compare cowdung that is what problem you get everything but you will not get freedom it's like you like you it is jail full of luxury

在印度和其他民主国家,你可以像自由鸟一样说话,看看评论区,一个聪明人在嘲讽印度,比较牛粪之类的,这就是问题所在,你得到了一切,但你不会得到自由,就像你喜欢的那样,这是一个充满奢侈的监狱。

Jeffery Lim
What crap are you speaking? You only need to dial 12345 on any complaint, which musr be resolved within 3 days. If more complex, it must legally be resolved within 3 weeks. You need to visit China before you make more self embarrassing comments.

你在说什么废话?你只需要拨打12345投诉,问题必须在3天内解决。如果更复杂,法律规定必须在3周内解决。在你发表更多让自己尴尬的评论之前,你需要去中国看看。

Lù Shèng An
Dude have you even been outside your home state in your life?

老兄,你这辈子出过你的家乡吗?

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Chien-Sheng Tsai
Where have you been ostrich? Hello!

你们在哪里,鸵鸟?你好!

Putnam Monroe
They are making all of those items now. Any components that they currently aren't making they most certainly can make before then. They have the only other manned space station than ISS, they are making more EVs than Tesla, and when donOld's tariffs go into effect you will see just how much is currently made in China.

他们现在已经在制造所有这些物品了。任何他们目前没有制造的组件,他们肯定都能制造出来。他们拥有除国际空间站外唯一的载人空间站,他们制造的电动汽车比特斯拉还多,当特朗普的关税生效时,你会看到有多少东西是中国制造的。

Rand
? They are already doing this now. There is a good chance any non food product you pick up in any shop already has a made in China sticker on the back, or contains parts made in China.

?,他们现在已经在做这些了。你在任何商店拿起的任何非食品产品,很有可能背面已经贴有“中国制造”的标签,或者包含中国制造的零件。

Steve Noskowicz
Electrical Engineer, Many Radio & other Systems (1955–present)
What rock have YOU been under? Among other things, China’s electric cars are already causing market stress. . .
Q: Everyone at first thought 'Made in China 2030' list, was real. But recent events suggest otherwise. Can China actually do it? Can China really make its own aeroplanes, semiconductors, electric cars, etc., by 2030, just 5 years from now?

问题:起初大家都认为“中国制造2030”清单是真实的。但最近的事件表明并非如此。中国真的能做到吗?中国真的能在2030年,也就是5年后,制造自己的飞机、半导体、电动汽车等吗?
你躲在什么石头下面吗?除了其他的外,中国的电动汽车已经在引起市场压力了。

Jim Halliday
No need for them to wait until 2030. They’re already building their own commercial airplanes, - check out the Comack - they are the largest consumer of EV’s in the world and manufacture many of them in their own plants with some even more sophisticated than Teslas. They can’t make some of the chips they need but are quickly catching up. They are going to have to add new items to their list if they want a challenge for 2030.

他们不需要等到2030年。他们已经在制造自己的商用飞机了——看看C919——他们是世界上最大的电动汽车消费者,并在自己的工厂里制造了许多电动汽车,其中一些甚至比特斯拉更先进。他们还不能制造一些他们需要的芯片,但正在迅速追赶。如果他们想在2030年有挑战,他们必须在清单上添加新项目。

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