作为文化传统,为什么印地语没有成为印度的官方语言,而且在南部连第二语言都不是?
2024-08-27 冲动的小李 6012
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@Mohan N R
Deep down, for any langauge, is the sound.
Words are sounds. Thoughts are words in sequence, in logical sequence, in a particular pattern. Sound is basic. With sound words are created, and then with words thoughts are created, and then with thoughts languages, religion and philosophy, everything. Deep down is the sound.

对于任何语言来说,其深层含义都是声音。
词语是声音。思想是按顺序、按逻辑顺序、按特定模式排列的词语。声音是基础。声音创造了词语,然后词语创造了思想,然后思想创造了语言、宗教和哲学,一切。声音是深层的东西。

These Sounds are arranged in a scientific manner as mentioned above in all ancient Indian languages like Tamil, Telugu, Kannada etc which when uttered make them healthy and wealthy.

正如上面提到的,这些声音在所有古印度语言(如泰米尔语、泰卢固语、卡纳达语等)中都是以科学的方式排列的,发出这些声音会让人感到健康和富有。

In Hindi it is arranged in a hapazard manner which when spoke, the speaker is affected materially and become poor. And hence Hindi is not made the second language in South India.

印地语的语言结构非常杂乱,讲印地语的人一旦讲出这些语言就会受到物质影响,变得贫穷。因此印地语在南印度并未成为第二语言。

Want proof:
Close to 1969 onwards, many of our Western and Eastern regions embraced Hindi/ Urdu as official languages ignoring their mother tongues- Magadhi, Bhojpuri, Rajasthani, Bhundelkhandi, brij etc.
The proof is already in the pudding.

想要证明:
从 1969 年起,我们许多西部和东部地区都将印地语/乌尔都语定为官方语言,而忽略了他们的母语——摩揭陀语、博杰普尔语、拉贾斯坦语、本德尔坎迪语、布里杰语等。
事实已经证明(变穷了)。

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@Vivek Vermani
lol. North was rich when Agriculture and Labor used to fetch more money as north population is more oriented towards strength and less towards mind. South became rich once the intellectual businesses starting fetching more money as south had mind over strength. Your answer is a perfect example of “Correlation isn’t always causation”.

哈哈。北方在农业和劳动能赚更多钱时曾经富裕,因为北方人口更注重力量而非智慧。南方则在知识型业务开始赚钱后变得富裕,因为南方人更注重智慧而非力量。你的回答是“相关性不等于因果关系”的完美例子。

@Mohan N R
True.

确实如此。

Sound (vibrations) has more effect on intellect.

声音(振动)对智力有更大的影响。

@No Name
What load of crap.

这真是一堆废话。

Look at regions that speak Hindi, Telugu, Tamil etc. (Basically, your entire map). Then look at places that speak German, French, English, dutch, swedish, danish (basically, northern and western Europe). Am I to conclude the later group of languages (German, dutch) are more scientific that make their speaker wealthy compared to all indian languages?

看看说印地语、泰卢固语、泰米尔语等的地区(基本上就是你的整个地图)。然后看看说德语、法语、英语、荷兰语、瑞典语、丹麦语等的地方(基本上是北欧和西欧)。我是不是应该得出结论,后者的语言(德语、荷兰语)比所有印度语言更具科学性,使其使用者更富有?
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@Mohan N R
Yes.

是的。

1 Speaking English make Hindi speaking people slaves. Want an Example, After Independance, “Hindustan Zinc” a sparkling Jewel PSU still pays off debts of a British company through dividends/ stake sale at high prices to Indians. Indian treasures have been looted by implanting Persian vibrations in inhabitants. Tata Motors still pays “retirement benefits of British workers from the profits of Indian operations”

1 说英语让说印地语的人变成奴隶。举个例子,独立后,“印度铅锌公司”这家闪耀的国有企业仍然通过向印度人出售股份或分红的方式偿还英国公司的债务。印度的财富被通过植入资本掠夺了。塔塔汽车仍然用印度业务的利润支付“英国工人的退休福利”。

2 Don't you agree US as one of the strongest Nation in the world?

2 你不认为美国是世界上最强大的国家之一吗?
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@Deepak Menon
social media does not mean you can tout any kind of nonsense as facts .. kuch bhiiii

社交媒体并不意味着你可以把任何废话当作事实来宣传……什么都行

@Mohan N R
Like?

比如?

@Venkat
Hindi speakers are also rude and uncivilized. The problem is with the language that these people are speaking. Now, they are looting my tax money.

说印地语的人也很粗鲁和不文明。问题在于这些人使用的语言。现在,他们正在掠夺我的税款。
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@Mohan N R
True. I agree with your observation.

确实如此。我同意你的观察。

@Prashant Kumar
Well.! This is rude and uncivilized.

好吧!这很粗鲁和不文明。

@Arya
The reality is vice-versa.

现实情况正好相反。

@Peregrine Falcon
Most crappy answer over the net

网络上最糟糕的回答

@Mohan N R
Thanks.

谢谢。

@Eknath Sharma
LMao. That reply was EPIC!!!
Hindi is garbage

哈哈哈。那个回答太棒了!!!
印地语就是垃圾

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@Anusha Gurumurthy
Nonsense… Hindi is spoken widely in Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra. How are they still rich? How does your logic apply to the north eastern states?

废话……印地语在旁遮普、哈里亚纳和马哈拉施特拉被广泛使用。他们怎么还富裕?你的逻辑如何适用于东北部的各个州?

@Shinfu Wu
Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra are rich state indeed, their gdp per capita are close to tamil.

旁遮普、哈里亚纳和马哈拉施特拉确实是富裕的州,他们的人均GDP接近泰米尔纳德邦。

@Mohan N R
It is sensible to observe more deeply. Read my answer again where it is mentioned that for regions where learning mother tongue is denied- I gave examples of Awadhi, Magadhi, Marawari, KuMaoni etc. Maharashtra is not limited to Mumbai. Ask parents of migrant parents from other states for admission of their children- Marathi is compulsary in Primary/ Secondary Schools.

深刻观察是有意义的。再读一下我的回答,其中提到对于那些母语学习被禁止的地区——我举了阿瓦德语,玛伽达语,马拉瓦利语等例子。玛伽达语不仅限于孟买。询问来自其他州的移民家长有关子女入学的情况——在小学和中学里,玛伽达语是强制性的。

Our side of United Punjab (three states) are rich while Pakistan side of Punjab is poor due to imposition of Urdu. Same ethnics - different outcomes. On the lighter note, Tamil was second official language of Haryana for over 30 years. There were infrastructure created in schools to teach Tamil during Hon. Devilal’s time.

我们这一边的联合旁遮普(三个州)富裕,而巴基斯坦一边的旁遮普则因乌尔都语的强制推行而贫穷。相同的民族——不同的结果。轻松一点,泰米尔语曾在哈里亚纳州担任了30多年的第二官方语言。在德维拉尔时期,学校内建立了教授泰米尔语的基础设施。
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@Shinfu Wu
The United Punjab sounds interesting, is it a ordinary usage?

联合旁遮普听起来很有趣,这是常见用法吗?

@Mohan N R
Yes. In 1966, the linguistic reorganisation happened in states of Himachal Pradesh, Haryana from Punjab.

是的。1966年,喜马偕尔邦、哈里亚纳的语言重组发生在旁遮普。

@Shinfu Wu
Thx.I googled and found maps of Khalistan and Tamilelam. Punjabis and Tamizh really love their culture.

谢谢。我在谷歌上找到了哈利斯坦和泰米尔拉姆的地图。旁遮普人和泰米尔人确实非常热爱他们的文化。
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@Ramesh Pampari
Don't waste posting falthu posts here sale. Don't compare south north east and west like that…

不要浪费时间在这里发布无用的帖子。不要这样比较南北东西……

@Mohan N R
Message the questioners. You may find millions of questions on the same subject from North Indians on “Why South Indians do not speak Hindi?” Who are these people dictate on what we need to speak?

给提问者留言。你可能会发现北印度人对“为什么南印度人不讲印地语?”有成千上万的问题。这些人是谁规定我们需要说什么的?

@Abhishek Sharma
Northern part is overpopulated. It lacks quality education policy and infrastructure. Southern states emphasis more on education.

北方人口过多。它缺乏优质的教育政策和基础设施。南方各州更注重教育。

@Prathap Suraj
Punjabi speaks Punjabi.

旁遮普人说旁遮普语。

@Mohan N R
True. Sound (Vibrations in Pranic body) of million speakers, take them in the right direction of the entire region. Population density of Tamil region was very high three generations before which comes down, educating the entire mass, including girls in their mother tongue.

确实如此。百万讲者的声音(在生气体中的振动),将他们引导到整个地区的正确方向。三代之前,泰米尔地区的人口密度非常高,现在有所下降,整个大众,包括女孩,都在用他们的母语接受教育。
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@Abhishek Sharma
Language has nothing to do with it. We are talking about modern education. State governments in southern states have done a better job in ensuring school infrastructure is available for the masses. You can notice majority of educated people in south can speak English, which is a key requirement for private globalised industry.

语言与此无关。我们讨论的是现代教育。南方各州的州政府在确保学校基础设施可供大众使用方面做得更好。你会发现南方大多数受过教育的人会说英语,而这对私营全球化行业来说是一个关键要求。
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@Manish Sharma
Are you saying Haryana and Punjab are not North India? All poor states in North India have different problems. Chattisgarh and Jharkhand’s issues are not the same as Rajasthan.

你是在说哈里亚纳和旁遮普不是北印度吗?北印度的所有贫困州都有不同的问题。恰蒂斯加尔和贾坎德的问题与拉贾斯坦不同。

@Freddy Jose
Try telling Haryanvi(s) and Punjabis to speak proper Hindi, you might get a similar but different response as asking a Tamilian or Kannadiga to speak in proper Hindi gets. All these groups understand and speak Hindi when necessary, but largely do not refrain from the same. While other groups will speak in Hindi and then ask others to speak the same. The problem is somewhat what OP mentioned, but has a bit more nuance.

试着让哈里亚纳人和旁遮普人说标准的印地语,你可能会得到类似但有所不同的回应,就像让泰米尔人或卡纳达人说标准印地语一样。这些群体在必要时会理解和说印地语,但大多数时候不愿意这样做。而其他群体则会用印地语交流,然后要求其他人也这样说。问题有点像原帖提到的,但有更多的细节。

@Manish Sharma
No you won’t. I am a Haryanvi and Punjabi. My ancestors came from Pakistan Punjab to Haryana. I grew up in Faridabad district. We speak proper Hindi and so do most cities of Haryana. Rural people speak various dialect of Haryanvi and will switch to Hindi if you cannot speak that dialect. It’s no different to any other language.

不会的。我是哈里亚纳人和旁遮普人。我的祖先从巴基斯坦旁遮普迁到哈里亚纳。我在法里达巴德区长大。我们说标准的印地语,哈里亚纳的大多数城市也是如此。农村人说各种哈里亚纳方言,如果你不能说这种方言,他们会切换到印地语。这和其他语言没有什么不同。

@Manish Sharma
In the next 20 years, Marwari and Bhojpuri will start to be taught in schools. They’ll be standalone languages. It won’t happen with Haryanvi because Haryana itself doesn’t have 1 dialect but multiple according to region. UP dialects consider Hindi as their mother tongue even if they speak Awadhi, Braj or Kannauji at home.

在未来20年内,马拉瓦里语和博杰普里语将开始在学校教授。它们将成为独立的语言。哈里亚纳语不会这样,因为哈里亚纳本身根据地区有多种方言。即使在家里说阿瓦德语、库马奥尼语,北方邦的方言也将印地语视为他们的母语。

@Σιβαμ Πουνδιρ
Freight equalisation policy played a huge role in developing south india.

运费均衡政策在发展南印度方面发挥了巨大作用。

@Mohan N R
Sound (Vibrations in Pranic body) of million speakers, take them in the right direction of the entire region.

百万使用者的声音(在生气体中的振动),将他们引导到整个地区的正确方向。

@Prathap Suraj
South languages preserved vowel in end consonant. E.g. Yoga in Sankrit/ kannada/Telugu. Yogum in Tamil/Malayalam. It's shockingly Persian, Turkish influence on other language made it as Yog; vowel suppression in end consonant.

南方语言保留了词尾的元音。例如,梵语/卡纳达语/泰卢固语中的瑜伽。泰米尔语/马拉雅拉姆语中的Yogum。令人震惊的是,波斯语、土耳其语对其他语言的影响使其变成了Yoga;词尾的元音被抑制。
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Suppresed vowel is used when person try to exploit other person; in hindi most of the word ends with vowel suppression. There is no scope for win win. It's a boss and slave relation. Empowered vowel is used when person wants to uplift other person; in south Karnataka and costal karnataka most of the word ends with empowered vowel.

当人们试图剥削其他人时,抑制的元音会被使用;在印地语中,大多数单词都以元音抑制结尾。没有双赢的余地。这是一种老板和奴隶的关系。赋能元音则用于当人们想要提升其他人时;在南方的卡纳塔克邦和沿海卡纳塔克邦,大多数单词以赋能元音结尾。

It's a win win, mutual respect and relationship between krishna and Arjuna. Look at whole Geeta; do you see any vowel suppression. It's all empowered vowel; that's the actual native language of North India I.e prakrit or sanskrit. Krishna didn't preech Geeta using mogul Hindi.

这是一种双赢、相互尊重的关系,就像克里希纳和阿周那之间的关系。看看《博伽梵歌》;你看到有任何元音抑制吗?这些都是赋能元音;这才是北印度的实际母语,即普拉克里特语或梵语。克里希纳讲《博伽梵歌》时没有使用莫卧儿印地语。

@Mohan N R
Good point.

好点子。

@Prathap Suraj
Corrections needed in pics: Lol North was poor since 1500 AC South was always wealthy compared to North.

图片中需要更正:哈哈,北方自1500年起就贫穷。南方一直比北方富裕。

@Prathap Suraj
How many of you know; mejority of the nouns in Hindi is Persian. Infact word Hindi is term given by Persians. And vowel suppression in the end consonant is also due to Persian influence on language. E.g Rama in sanskrit became Ram in Urdu/Hindu. If not Persians/Moguls ruled North India for 700 massive years; there wouldn't be Hindi, instead so many languages like Prakrit, sanskrit, magadhi, etc would have still existed in North India.

你们知道多少;印地语中的大多数名词是波斯语的。事实上,印地语这个词是波斯人给的。词尾的元音抑制也是由于波斯语对语言的影响。例如,梵语中的Rama在乌尔都语/印地语中变成了Ram。如果不是波斯人/莫卧儿统治了北印度700多年;印地语将不会存在,取而代之的是许多如普拉克里特语、梵语、马伽达语等语言将会在北印度继续存在。

@Santhosh Krishna
BS do you know what you are talking mughals where fucking ruled north india only for 100 years MAX they for most of history Mughals where isolated in delhi or afghanistan until Akbar came to power

废话,你知道你在说什么吗?莫卧儿帝国只在北印度统治了最多100年,大部分历史上,莫卧儿帝国都是在德里或阿富汗孤立的,直到阿克巴尔掌权。

before the mughals we had the delhi sultanate who only ruled uttar pradesh and other areas of north india at their end . Hindi has Majority prakrit words after all it is an Descendant Of KHARI BHOLI an prakrit dialect. persian only Constitutes 30% of the hindi Vocabulary MAX and an measly 15% MIN your comment is like calling persian an artificial language because it has large Amounts of Arabic vocabulary LOL

在莫卧儿之前,我们有德里苏丹国,他们只统治了北印度的乌塔尔普拉德什和其他地区。印地语有大部分的普拉克里特词汇,毕竟它是古代普拉克里特方言KHARI BHOLI的后裔。波斯语在印地语词汇中最多占30%,最少也仅有15%。你的评论就像是因为波斯语有大量阿拉伯词汇就称其为人工语言一样,真搞笑。

@Prathap Suraj
Do u atleast agree British ruled India once and you are typing in English.

你至少同意英国曾经统治过印度,而你现在用英语打字吧。

Brother, it's better to accept bitter truth and then defending it. Otherwise you'll never trace the root cause of problem nor the solution.

兄弟,接受苦涩的真相然后捍卫它会更好。否则你永远找不到问题的根源和解决办法。

Hindi has 90% of the nouns from Persian. Hindi eliminated all native Indian languages in North India like prakrit, sanskrit, maghadi etc. Moguls (Turks/Persians/Afghanis/slave dynasty etc) ruled for significantly largest duration in 20th century of India and influenced and imposed culture and languages. One of those is Hindi.

印地语有90%的名词来自波斯语。印地语消灭了北印度的所有本土语言,如普拉克里特语、梵语、马伽地语等。莫卧儿帝国(包括土耳其人/波斯人/阿富汗人/奴隶王朝等)在20世纪统治了印度很长时间,影响并强加了文化和语言。其中之一就是印地语。

Only remaining sanskrit speaking village in India is existing in karnataka state, shivmogha district, mattur village; only reason sanskrit got protected in that village is there is no Hindi/urdu influence in that village.

在印度唯一一个仍在讲梵语的村庄位于卡纳塔克邦,希夫莫加区,马图尔村;梵语在那个村庄得以保护的唯一原因是该村没有印地语/乌尔都语的影响。

@Santhosh Krishna
english was not widely spoken in india it was due to the education policies taken by independant india which expanded the population of english speakers. what BS majority of hindi vocabulary comes from Prakrit and Other north indian dialects persian also has influence in hindi but the influence is only 30%

英语在印度并不广泛使用,这要归功于独立印度采取的教育政策,这些政策扩展了英语使用者的群体。什么胡扯,印地语的大多数词汇来自普拉克里特语和其他北印度方言,波斯语对印地语的影响也有,但仅占30%。

when Bitter LIES are mixed in history i will not remain silent all north indian Languages are Descendants of Prakrit Hindi is a Modern prakrit language with singnificant persian influence the same way french is an Romance language with a large germanic influence Maghadi ,Bhojpuri and many of the north indian languages still have Millions of speakers.

当历史中混入苦涩的谎言时,我不会保持沉默。所有北印度语言都是普拉克里特语的后裔,印地语是现代普拉克里特语的一种,有着显著的波斯语影响,就像法语本来是一种罗曼斯语,却受到大量的日耳曼语影响一样。马伽地语、博杰普尔语以及许多北印度语言仍有数百万讲者。
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You don’t like Hindi imposition then fight no one cares changing history will not help you with anything Even Linguistics professors agree hindi has at most 30 % vocabulary borrowed from persian and an negligible amount of turkish and Arabic vocabulary simply because an language has foreign name doesn’t mean it has 90% of it’s vocabulary borrowed from said language. many Hindi words for soils and farming comes from prakrit

你不喜欢印地语的强制推广,那就去争取吧,没有人关心,改变历史对你没有任何帮助。即使语言学教授也同意,印地语最多只有30%的词汇来源于波斯语,土耳其语和阿拉伯语的词汇量微不足道。语言有外来名字并不意味着它有90%的词汇来源于那种语言。许多印地语中的土壤和农业词汇来自普拉克里特语。

@Dhruva Choudhary
well I also think its because south has many different languages [although with the same base, and scxt structures]

嗯,我也认为这是因为南方有很多不同的语言 [尽管它们有相同的基础和文字结构]

@Mohan N R
Yes. “Structure” plays an important role.

是的。
“结构”扮演了重要的角色。

@Mickey Gidwani
good proof of your theory. Perhaps a better one is China, who outright reject adopting English and thusly only use it as an instrument for trade and commerce.

这是你理论的一个好证明。也许更好的例子是中国,他们彻底拒绝采用英语,因此仅将其作为贸易和商业的工具。

@Abhishek
An Indian scholar once asserted that the Chinese could not integrate into the world and thus could not successfully develop their economy because they did not speak English. This has become a famous joke.

曾经有印度学者断言,中国人不说英语,所以无法融入世界,从而不能成功的发展经济。
这都成了著名的笑话

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@Nitin Singh
If the South is rich than why should not all South Indians to be promoted to General / Open Category ?? And All North Indians must be In OBC Category as they are poor.
Just a thought.

如果南方富裕,那为什么所有南印度人都不能晋升为普通/开放类别?而所有北印度人都必须在OBC(其他后备类别)类别中,因为他们贫穷。
仅仅是个想法。
译注:这里涉及到印度族群识别概念

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@Kushagra Mittal
The rich states are only Gujarat and Maharashtra. They alone contribute to 22–23% national GDP.

富裕的州只有古吉拉特邦和马哈拉施特拉邦。它们仅贡献了22-23%的国家GDP。

@Mohammad Wassem
Hindi is a compulsory school subject in Karnataka, Telangana, AP & in Kerala.

印地语在卡纳塔克邦、特伦甘纳邦、安得拉邦和喀拉拉邦是必修的学校科目。
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@Short Clip Movie
Hariyana per capita income more than Tamil Nadu

哈里亚纳邦的人均收入高于泰米尔纳德邦

@Archit Bhattacharya
This has to be the most brain dead answer I've read this week and that's saying something

这是我本周读到的最愚蠢的回答,这还算是有点意义的

@Mohan N R
Thanks for your time.

感谢你的时间。

@Praveen Verma
Mukesh Ambani and Gautam adani speaks hindi most of the time.. Gujarati is more like hindi, then south Indian languages.
This reasoning is not sound.

安巴尼和阿达尼大多数时间讲印地语。
古吉拉特语更像印地语,而不是南印度语言。
这种推理是不成立的。

I have another thought process. North side have been facing attacks from invaders from 1000s of years. There was always fight for survival and material accumulation. That made the culture there some what rude. And since many of their kids will die in these battles, so another cultural change was have more
kids.

我有另一种思考方式。北方长期受到侵略者的攻击,经历了几千年的生存和物质积累斗争。这使得当地文化有些粗鲁。而且,由于许多孩子会在这些战争中死去,所以另一个文化变化就是生更多的孩子。

Now time has changed a lot, but the old habits are not changing. And even if you try to change something, some nut cases will say, it is our tradition, and we will not allow dilution of our age old tradition. They don’t realize that the traditions were made based on circumstances, and were not sent by God. And as circumstances change, we should also evolve.

现在时局已经发生了很大变化,但旧习惯却没有改变。即使你试图改变一些东西,也会有一些人说,这是我们的传统,我们不会允许我们的古老传统被稀释。他们没有意识到传统是根据当时的情况制定的,而不是上天所赐。随着情况的变化,我们也应该进化。

Coming to south India. Mostly south India has remained peaceful. Rarely invaders reached till there. So, they didn’t had to struggle this hard, and fighting for resources was less. This made them little bit more soft natured and accommodating. This mindset also allowed them embrace any change towards betterment.

说到南印度,大部分时间南印度保持了和平。很少有侵略者到达那里。因此,他们不需要如此艰苦地挣扎,资源争夺也较少。这使他们的性格变得更为温和和包容。这种心态也使他们更容易接受任何有益的改变。

And we can see the results on both places.

我们可以看到两地的结果。
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@Mohan N R
Thanks for pointing out specifics.Mukesh Ambani and Gautam adani speaks hindi most of the time..

感谢你指出具体细节。
安巴尼和阿达尼大多数时间讲印地语。

It is not about individuals- society as a whole, social inclusion.
Gujarati is more like hindi, then south Indian languages.

这不是关于个人的问题——而是关于社会整体和社会包容性。
古吉拉特语更像印地语,而不是南印度语言。

Though there is no resistance, 20 kms out of Ahmedabad, most of Gujaratis do not speak Hindi. Within Ahmedabad, women folks shy away from Hindi. You can make your own conclusions about Kutchis and Kathiawadis.

虽然没有抵抗,但在艾哈迈达巴德20公里之外,大多数古吉拉特人不讲印地语。在艾哈迈达巴德市内,女性通常避开印地语。你可以自己对库奇人和卡提亚瓦迪人得出结论。

I have another thought process. North side have been facing attacks from invaders from 1000s of years. There was always fight for survival and material accumulation. That made the culture there some what rude. And since many of their kids will die in these battles, so another cultural change was have more kids.

我有另一种思考方式。北方长期受到侵略者的攻击,经历了几千年的生存和物质积累斗争。这使得当地文化有些粗鲁。而且,由于许多孩子会在这些战争中死去,所以另一个文化变化就是生更多的孩子。

True. South has faced less islamic invasions- but there were damages.
Coming to south India. Mostly south India has remained peaceful. Rarely invaders reached till there.

确实,南方遭受的伊斯兰入侵较少,但也有损害。
说到南印度,大部分时间南印度保持了和平。很少有侵略者到达那里。

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South India was invaded at the same time in 14th century by Malik Kafur and Madurai, Sri Rangam temples were destroyed and treasures were looted. But within 48 years, Vijayanagara Empire defeated them and lasted for 300 years.

南印度在14世纪同一时期遭到了马利克·卡弗尔和马杜赖的入侵,斯里兰冈寺庙被摧毁,财宝被掠夺。但在48年内,维杰纳伽尔帝国击败了他们,并持续了300年。

Again European (Dutch, French, Portuguese, British) invasions started in 18th century. Here also local polygars of Madurai Kingdom (without Emperors/ Kings) fought with British from 1790- 1810.

18世纪,欧洲(荷兰、法国、葡萄牙、英国)的侵略又开始了。
这里,马杜赖王国的地方诸侯(没有皇帝/国王)从1790年到1810年与英国人作战。

@Praveen Verma
“Though there is no resistance, 20 kms out of Ahmedabad, most of Gujaratis do not speak Hindi. Within Ahmedabad, women folks shy away from Hindi. You can make your own conclusions about Kutchis and Kathiawadis. “ — If you go by that way, the eastern UP and bihar speaks bhojpuri, bengal speaks bengali, assam speak assamese, don’t even know all eastern languages. Is Gujarati lesser like Hindi then these languages ?

“虽然没有抵抗,但在艾哈迈达巴德20公里之外,大多数古吉拉特人不讲印地语。在艾哈迈达巴德市内,女性通常避开印地语。你可以自己对库奇人和卡提亚瓦迪人得出结论。”——如果你这样说,那么东部的北方邦和比哈尔讲博杰普尔语,孟加拉讲孟加拉语,阿萨姆讲阿萨姆语,甚至不知道所有东部语言。古吉拉特语是否比这些语言更像印地语?

I have lived in Gujarat, and understand most of things, without much difficulty. I have lived in Tamilnadu too. And can assure you, a tamil guy will not understand a word of Gujarati, based on his knowledge of Tamil.

我曾住在古吉拉特邦,并且理解大部分事物,没有太大困难。我也曾住在泰米尔纳德邦。我可以向你保证,一个泰米尔人根据他对泰米尔语的了解是无法理解古吉拉特语的。

Not only that, marathi is also more close to hindi then any of south Indian languages. They use devnagri lipi for writing, which is same as in Hindi and sanskrit.

不仅如此,马拉地语也比任何南印度语言更接近印地语。他们使用天城文(Devanagari)书写,这与印地语和梵语相同。

South India was invaded at the same time in 14th century by Malik Kafur and Madurai, Sri Rangam temples were destroyed and treasures were looted — Off course, no one is untouched. But how many times. Every invaders had to cross north, to reach south. Most of them could not cross this. What about 1947 partition ? Who paid the biggest price of partition ?

南印度在14世纪同一时期被马利克·卡弗尔马杜赖入侵,斯里兰冈寺庙被摧毁,财宝被掠夺——当然,没有人没有受到影响。但有多少次?每个入侵者都必须经过北方才能到达南方。他们中的大多数无法穿越这一点。那么1947年分裂呢?谁为分裂付出了最大的代价?

@Mohan N R
I appreciate your knowledge.

我欣赏你的知识。

Not only that, marathi is also more close to hindi then any of south Indian languages. They use devnagri lipi for writing, which is same as in Hindi and sanskrit.

‘不仅如此,马拉地语也比任何南印度语言更接近印地语。他们使用天城文(Devanagari)书写,这与印地语和梵语相同。’
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scxt is alltogether different world which comes under visualization.

文字完全是一个不同的领域,属于视觉范畴。
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Use of Devnagari scxt is of recent times and bring bad omen to the writers. Nandnagari scxt were used in Southern languages at some point in time and discarded for its imperfect visualization.

天城文的使用是最近的,并给书写者带来了不祥之兆。南方语言曾在某个时期使用过南德文,但因其不完美的视觉效果而被弃用。

South still follows the age old tradition of reading and writing Sanskrit in “Granthas” Every invaders had to cross north, to reach south. Most of them could not cross this. What about 1947 partition ? Who paid the biggest price of

南方仍然遵循古老的传统,使用经典阅读和书写梵语。
每个入侵者都必须经过北方才能到达南方。他们中的大多数无法穿越这一点。那么1947年分裂呢?谁为分裂付出了最大的代价?

It is not so. When Malik Kafur attacked Madurai, Malabar Sultans from West Coast who migrated from Arabia in 7th century, Egypt in 11th century, Iraq in 12th century through Sea, helped the Slave dynasty to loot and they ruled Madurai for 48 years.

事实并非如此。当马利克·卡弗尔攻击马杜赖时,来自西海岸的马拉巴尔苏丹,他们在7世纪从阿拉伯迁移,11世纪从埃及迁移,12世纪通过海洋从伊拉克迁移,帮助奴隶王朝掠夺,他们统治了马杜赖48年。

During 18th century, there were many players in South making chaos- Naicker and Thevar Polygers, Marathas, Nawabs of Arcot, Nizams of Hyderabad, British, French, Portuguese and Dutch.

在18世纪,南方有许多势力制造混乱——奈克和德瓦尔方统治者、马拉塔人、阿尔科特的纳瓦布、海得拉巴的尼扎姆、英国人、法国人、葡萄牙人和荷兰人。

1947 partition is a blunder of our leaders, especially Gujaratis- nowhere in the world people migrated leaving their ancestral wealth and undergone hardships. Hyderabad annexation is from South. Price paid by North is due to Sound of their leaders.

1947年的分裂是我们领导人的一个重大错误,特别是古吉拉特人——在世界上没有人会在离开祖传财富的情况下迁移并经历艰辛。海得拉巴的并入来自南方。北方付出的代价是由于其领导人的声音。

Yes. Your observation on less hardship of Southerners is correct due to its complex landscapes and Strategy adopted by Southern rulers. Tirupati played a significant role in reshaping after 14th century.

是的,你对南方人经历的困难较少的观察是正确的,这得益于其复杂的地形和南方统治者采取的策略。提鲁帕蒂在14世纪后重新塑造了局势。
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@Kishan Pareek
Please do your research. Don't post non-sense. Poorer states are poor because their government didn't put efforts, People have potential.

拜托,做好你的研究。不要发布无意义的内容。贫困的州之所以贫困,是因为他们的政府没有付出努力,人们有潜力。

@Nirmit Khanna
Chalo, saved Mumbaikars saved from avg North vs South fight

好了,保存
孟买人被从北方与南方的争斗中拯救出来

@Buttercup
North-east was never rich.

东北部从未富裕过。

@Surya
coastal area develops faster always. Nothing to do with language.

沿海地区总是发展得更快。这与语言无关。

@Dhruv Rathee
What the hell did I just read..? Ok I understand you hate Hindi and don't want to learn speaking it, that is fine. But at least you should have come up with a more valid argument against the language instead of this sheer dumbness of an answer.

我刚刚读了什么鬼东西..? 好吧,我明白你讨厌印地语,不想学习说它,这没问题。但至少你应该提出一个更有效的论点来反对这种语言,而不是这样一个完全愚蠢的回答。

So do you think that whatever the Southern states have achieved in the decades is due to the language they speak, and not the geographical location, the availability of natural resources, the coastal ports, the IT industries, the other industries, etc,etc. Well claps to you(^^).

所以你认为南方各州在几十年里取得的成就完全是由于他们讲的语言,而不是地理位置、自然资源的丰富、沿海港口、IT产业、其他产业等。好吧,给你鼓掌

(I'm gonna bookmark this answer as the most bizzarely lunatic answer I've ever encountered. This answer, may be in future, would be used in study of people who have attained heavenly imbecilment)

(我要将这个回答收藏为我遇到过的最荒谬的疯狂回答。这个回答,或许将来会被用来研究那些达到了天上愚蠢程度的人。)

@Archit Bhattacharya
Hatred against North Indians is very normalized nowadays, look at the top comment here explaining how south Indians are smarter than north Indians.

现在对北方人的仇恨已经非常正常化了,看看这里的顶级评论,解释了南方人如何比北方人更聪明。

@@Mohan N R
Thanks. I have just answered a question requested.

谢谢。
我只是回答了一个请求的问题。

Your comments are valid for questioners- You may find millions of questions on the same subject from North Indians on “Why South Indians do not speak Hindi?” Who are these people dictate on what we need to speak?

你的评论对提问者有效——你可能会发现北方人对“为什么南方人不讲印地语?”这个问题有数百万个类似的提问。
这些人是谁来决定我们应该说什么的?

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