中国能赶上马斯克和他的太空探索技术公司吗?网友热议中美两国之间的太空竞赛
2024-10-31 jgscllp 8517
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Space X enjoys a near-monopoly on space launches. The company, founded by Elon Musk, has raced ahead of rivals in Europe and North America by driving down the cost of lifting payloads into orbit.

太空探索技术公司几乎垄断了太空发射市场。这家由埃隆·马斯克创立的公司,通过降低将有效载荷送入轨道的成本,遥遥领先欧洲和北美的众多竞争对手。
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SpaceX's Starlix system boasts over 6,000 satellites in low-earth orbit, and provides high-quality internet service to the most remote areas of the world. Starlix is also profitable, and is quickly becoming the global industry standard for heavy industry, maritime, aviation, logistics, search and rescue, and even military operations.

太空探索技术公司的星链系统已经在近地轨道上部署了超过 6000 颗卫星,能够为世界上最偏远的地区提供高质量的互联网服务。不仅如此,星链项目还实现了盈利,而且正在迅速成为重工业、海事、航空、物流、搜救甚至军事行动等多个领域的全球行业标准。

China is aggressively attempting to catch up, with huge investments into research and development of reusable rockets, with ambitions to build even larger constellations of low-earth orbit satellites.

中国正在奋起直追,加大在可重复使用火箭研发方面的投入,并雄心勃勃地规划建造规模更大的近地轨道卫星网络。

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@guillermoperezsantos
Catch??? do Space X has landed in the moon yet? Elon cant make a decent pick up truck....

赶上?太空探索技术公司已经登陆月球了吗?马斯克甚至造不出一辆像样的皮卡车……
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@keepingittight
Chinese think long term. Tech has to be at 6G then send 6G satellites, while not wasting parking space !

中国人考虑得更长远。通讯技术必须达到6G水平,然后才能发射6G卫星,同时避免浪费泊位资源。
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@gelinrefira
Of course China can.

中国当然可以了。

@typicalKAMBlover21
Once the Americans show the possibility, the Chinese is ready to learn and adopt

一旦美国人展现出某种可能性,中国人就会做好准备去学习和采用。

@angieng71
$120/month ?!!! rural people willing to pay that much?

每月120美元的费用?农村居民真的愿意付那么多钱吗?

@mistermood4164
You’d be surprised internet in rural America can costs upwards of 500 per month for a fiber optic line

你可能会很惊讶,在美国农村地区,一条光纤线路每月花费可能超过500美元。

@arturoherrera3616
Latin-american countries pay $50, African countries pay less than that.
They price it at about the same to what those customers have available to them from the other satellite companies, except Starlix service is about 20x better service.

拉美国家支付的费用是50美元,非洲国家支付的费用更少。这些国家的定价与其他卫星公司提供给客户的价格大致相同,但星链的服务质量要比其他公司好 20 倍。

@linux9846
In India Fiber optic,80Mbps=7 USD, 30Mbps=4.5 USD,Per month, unlimited download

就拿印度的光纤来说吧,80兆的宽带每月只要7美元,80兆的宽带每月只要4.5美元,而且无限量下载。

@ZweiZwolf
Urban cell / internet service is typically at least $60/month, and can easily be $100+/month. $120/month is very cheap.

城市手机/互联网服务通常每月至少60美元起步,而且很容易达到每月 100 美元以上。相比之下,星链每月120美元真的很便宜。

@MarineScoutSniper @arturoherrera3616
I’ve had it and it is not better.

我已经有星链了,这东西不见得更好用。

@syncmaster915n
Some rich ranchers in America would consider $120/month cheap. Elon didn't launch all these satellites for the poor, they're for the rich.

对于美国一些有钱的农场主们来说,会觉得每月120美元很便宜。马斯克发射这些卫星不是给穷人用的,而是给富人们用的。

@maadamos56
If you look at the inevitable challenge to Tesla, as an example, it's easy to see what lays ahead. The Chinese companies will first start as competitors, until they do another Tesla on SpaceX.

如果你以特斯拉所面临的不可避免的挑战为例,那么很容易就能预见到未来会发生什么。中国企业首先会以竞争对手的身份出现,直到他们在类似太空探索技术公司的领域中打造出另一个特斯拉。

@tomislav5689
Just look at all of the headlines of his videos, he's clearly a propaganda channel. If he lives in China, he has no other option anyway.

看看他所有视频的标题就知道了,可以明显看出他是一个宣传渠道。如果他真的住在中国,那他确实也没有别的选择。
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@cb250nighthawk3 @tomislav5689
If it's the truth, then it's not propaganda.
As they say : can you face the truth? Can you rise up to the competition?

如果这些都是事实,那就不算是宣传。正如他们所说:你能直面真相吗?你能在竞争中胜出吗?

@TepurangaHeremaia-ce4qe
​He knows where the future lays. BRICS

他知道未来在哪里,金砖国家。

@roberts2697 @tomislav5689
No one force him to stay in China and do such videos.Same as the foreign vloggers who came as tourists and show ground reality of China.


没有人强迫他留在中国拍摄这样的视频。就如同那些来中国旅游的外国博主们一样,他们向世人展示了中国最真实的一面。

@DrXJ @tomislav5689
he's just highlighting what the western media usually ignore.. that's all. He's a free man and free to do whatever he pleases.


他只是在强调那些通常被西方媒体所忽略的内容,仅此而已。他是一个自由的人,想干什么就干什么。

@gelinrefira
It's not just starlix, it's also starshield which is explicitly a military statellite constellation.

它不仅是星链,它还是星盾,这显然是一个军事卫星系统。

@remix-yy1hs
Hahaha like the us star gate system. You seen what happened in isreal. Us is defenseless to missile.

哈哈,就像美国的星际之门系统一样。可以看看以色列的实际情况,美国在面对导弹攻击时完全没有防御能力。

@mefobills279@remix-yy1hs
Starshield is not a defensive shield. They have infrared and optical sensors to track ballistic and hypersonic missiles.

星盾并非防御盾牌。它们配备红外和光学传感器,可用于跟踪弹道导弹以及高超音速导弹。

@fannyalbi9040
the real question should be "how soon"

真正的问题应该是“多久” 能赶上。

@ahmadahmal2942
Indeed China built their own Space Station. No country has did that by itself.

实际上,中国已经建造了自己的空间站。没有哪个国家能够单独完成这一壮举。

@betoperez7263
It is interesting how Elon's Space X is advancing due to his vertical manufacturing. In the other hand, we hear a lot about how China has copied from the West to get to the level where she is at.

有趣的是,马斯克的太空探索技术公司是如何凭借其垂直整合的制造模式得以发展起来的。另一方面,我们时常听到很多关于中国如何从西方借鉴从而发展至当前水平的说法。

Yet, if we looked carefully what it is happening with Elon's Space X, he has learned about manufacturing vertically from the Chinese industry. Is it that what we called copying?

然而,如果我们仔细研究马斯克的太空探索技术公司的发展历程,就会发现他实际上也从中国工业中学到了垂直整合的制造模式。那么,这就是我们所说的抄袭吗?

@remix-yy1hs
Its not elon it's darpa its mit university standford. It's cia venture capital. Same with Amazon. Nobody gets that rich. He is front man.

(太空探索技术公司的幕后老板)不是马斯克,而是 DARPA(美国国防高级研究计划局)、麻省理工学院、斯坦福大学等。这是中情局的风险投资项目。亚马逊的情况也类似。没有人会那么富有,他只是前台人物。

@jaromor8808
vertical integration is a concept known and used for decades (Ford was one of the pioneers)

几十年来,垂直整合一直是一个被人们所熟知并被广泛应用的概念(福特公司是该领域的先驱之一)。

@supergroovy8346
After the Lebanon pager incident, I have a hard time trusting things like I used to. A year ago it would be just the quality of service or price, but now many other factors come into play.

自从黎巴嫩寻呼机事件之后,我不像以前那样相信别人了。一年前可能只需考虑服务质量和价格问题,但现在还有许多其他因素也在发挥作用。

Right now, I will see how China does with that satellite Internet thing because I can't trust the current elite colonial capitalists controlling the west. I hope it changes.

现在,我要看看中国如何处理卫星互联网的问题,因为我无法相信目前那些掌控着西方国家的精英殖民资本家们,我希望情况能有所改变。
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@mpolarw
Buy Chinese, no explosive surprise

购买中国产品,不会出现爆炸性的惊喜。

@mmojave
And yet no one (not even the environmentalists) are complaining about Starlix polluting the lower orbit with its satellites.......

然而没有人(甚至环保主义者)抱怨星链的卫星污染了近地轨道……

@phils4634
Both China AND Russia are pressing ahead with re-useable rocket production. The Russian system also uses a more energy-dense propellant - methane (which Russia has in abundance).

中国和俄罗斯都在积极推进可重复使用火箭的生产。其中,俄罗斯的系统还采用了一种能量密度更高的推进剂-甲烷(俄罗斯拥有丰富的甲烷资源)。

There is a lot of information interchange between China and Russia, so expect significant progress in this area soon.

中俄两国之间存在大量的信息交流,因此预计在这一领域很快就会取得重大进展。

@gambaridup
Can China catch Elon Musk and SpaceX ?. of course China can.BYD China EV already gave stiff competition to Musk's Tesla.

中国能赶上埃隆·马斯克和他的太空探索技术公司吗?中国当然可以了。中国的比亚迪电动汽车已对马斯克的特斯拉构成了激烈的竞争了。

From 1978 - 2018, China has about 2 millions citizens graduated in science & technology from US universities.

从1978年至2018年期间,大约有200万中国公民毕业于美国大学的科技专业。

@goldi7587
Starlix is 80% for military porpuse.China need to do it too.

星链系统有80%的用途是用于军事领域。中国也要这样做。

@rcmrcm3370
CIA purpose is number 1.

中情局的计划是首要任务。

@mmojave
Starlix is sheep-in-wolves' skin.... Who's to say that the US gov won't use Starlix for its dubious agendas??

星链系统其实就是一只披着羊皮的狼。谁能断言美国政府不会利用“星链”来推行那些令人怀疑的计划呢?

@kenw.4539
US government can order Starlix to shut off Internet connectivity to anyone at any time with the national security excuse.

美国政府随时都有可能以国家安全为由,下令星链切断任何人的互联网连接。

@RobertChilds-q6x
The biggest problem with Starlix is that it interferes severely with ground based astronomy - the sky is no longer clear for astronomers and is going to be much less so as the other companies launch their LEO satellites. Sad.

星链最大的问题在于,它对地面天文学造成了严重干扰,天文学家观测到的天空不再清晰,而且随着其他公司纷纷发射近地轨道卫星,这片天空将会变得越发昏暗。让人痛心!

@williamlewandowski129
How we send astronauts into space without running into something is beyond me. A collision is inevitably forthcoming.

我实在无法想象,我们该如何把宇航员安全送进太空而不会撞到什么东西。一场即将发生的碰撞在所难免,

@AB_123_AB
Because relying on Elon Musk for your nation's future is such a great idea.

因为我们将国家的未来寄托在埃隆·马斯克身上真是个好主意。

@DaxVJacobson
SpaceX is not in a rush to fill out their network because every launch they also upgrade to more capable satellites, they now have direct to cell capability at Starlix

太空探索技术公司并不急于完善他们的网络,原因在于每次发射他们都会对卫星进行升级,使其具备更强大的功能。目前,他们在星链上已拥有DTC(即通过卫星直接与手机建立通信)的能力。

@planet_69
Isn't he the richest man in the world and getting richer ?

马斯克不是世界上最富有,而且越来越富有的人吗?

@winsonip4447
Elon Musk just wants to join the US military-industrial complex, regardless of whether Starlix or SpaceX fits that goal.

埃隆・马斯克只想加入美国军工复合体,无论星链还是太空探索技术公司都符合这一目标。

@toledo980
I think its the otherway around. In order to receive state investments, they need to offer military solutions

我认为可能正好相反。为了获得国家投资,他们必须提供军事解决方案。
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@fdjw88
Capitalists are profit driven, being in the MIC gives you higher profits, nothing wrong with that.

资本家通常以利润为导向,在军工复合体(MIC)工作可能会获得更高的利润。这并无不妥之处。
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@lixwii64
Nope, Elon is anti war.

不,埃隆・马斯克是反战的。

@merocaine
He is already in, what are you talking about.

他已经参与其中了,你在说什么呢?

@quoc28mytube @toledo980
If Tesla was Chinese and the owner doing business with the state and military. It would be banned!

如果特斯拉是中国企业,老板与国家和军队进行商业合作,那它肯定会被禁止的。

@matheuscerqueira7952
He already joined the "intelligence" community with twitter

他已经通过推特加入了“情报”界。

@matheuscerqueira7952 @douginorlando6260
​because he knows these countries can shoot down his satellites

因为他知道这些国家可以击落他的卫星。

@Wooster77
Yes, and this will cause all non-nato countries to prohibit the use of starlix by their citizens.

是的,这可能会导致所有非北约国家禁止他们的公民使用星链。

@MarineScoutSniper @matheuscerqueira7952
actually they can shoot down his satellite True Story

实际上他们确实可以击落他的卫星。

@Wwmmgg95554
Ground base signal towers for 4G and 5G internet connection almost cover everywhere in China. Ground base is much cheaper and reliable than space base. Developing a low orbital space base satellite system for internet connection just is an alternative.

4G 和 5G 互联网连接的地面信号塔几乎覆盖了中国的各个角落。相比之下,地面基站比太空基站更便宜且可靠得多。开发一个用于互联网连接的近地轨道空间基站卫星系统,只是一种替代方案。

@Freedom_from_imp
Yes, it is designed to serve underserved areas around the world where ground based stations aren't possible due to distance, geography or just not feasible from an economic perspective.

没错,这个系统的设计是为世界上缺乏互联网服务的地区提供服务,例如那些因为距离遥远、地理位置特殊或是从经济角度考虑不适合建立地面基站的区域。

@williamlewandowski129 @Freedom_from_imp
But a government installed ground based stations to cover its entire territory doesn't need to make profit. But over the long term, will probably still break even or even make a little money.

但是政府安装的覆盖整个领土的地面站不需要以盈利为目的。不过从长远来看,它可能会实现收支平衡,甚至略有盈余。

But the US doesn't do long term planning, as every 4 years is potentially a whole new world, in which it's economic and political trajectory can change dramatically.

但美国缺乏长期规划,因为每隔四年就有可能出现一个全新的世界,其中的政治、经济格局可能发生巨大变化。

@skyw4278
Elon works for the american military...launching satelites for the military

马斯克为美国军方工作,为军队发射卫星。

@tonysu8860
Considering how Elon complains about not being paid by the military or the US government for the service Starlix provides in Ukraine I seriously doubt your statement

考虑到星链在乌克兰提供服务,马斯克抱怨没有收到军方或美国政府的报酬,我对你的说法表示严重怀疑。

@consciousplanet8887
i am surprised you did not mention baido satelite system

我很惊讶你没有提到北斗卫星系统。

@tonysu8860
Are you talking about the global positioning system?Although it supports some 2 way communications, it's main purpose is different.

你是在说全球定位系统吗?虽然它支持部分双向通信功能,但它的主要用途是不同的。

@tanchong307
Space x cannot compete with china because their have no 6g and rare earth

太空探索技术公司无法与中国竞争,因为他们缺乏6G技术和稀土资源。

@stephenc6955
Musk is a US defense contractor. Starlix has military functions not yet revealed

马斯克是美国国防承包商,星链的军事功能还没有完全公开。
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@nanyanguo1
Chinese engineers n researches in tesla lab in China

中国工程师正在特斯拉的实验室开展研究工作。

@caninesandcompany
The Russians can jam it.

俄罗斯人可以干扰星链。

@SesionesCarpeDiem
Starlix from 39 U$S (100MB) in Argentina... Equipment: 250 u$s.

星链在阿根廷的售价为39美元起(100兆宽带),设备价格250美元。

@franciscody9622
Starlix is too slow

星链太慢了。

@Wwmmgg95554
Space base signal satellite for internet connection is a good alternative for a country having massive rural areas and massive ocean areas, where ground base signal towers are not available.

对于一个拥有大量农村地区和广阔海洋区域,而且缺乏地面基站信号塔覆盖的国家来说,用于互联网连接的天基信号卫星是一个很好的选择。

Of course, space base is superior during the war time when Ground base is destroyed.

当然了,在战争时期,当地面基站被摧毁时,太空基站就具有更大的优势了。

@cangzhang3849
Elon knows where the money is

马斯克知道钱在哪里。

@kenhollen5906
One thing to consider, Tesla is the #1 manufacturer of EVs in the world. Yet, China dominates the EV market worldwide.

需要考虑的一个因素是,特斯拉是全球排名第一的电动汽车制造商。然而,中国在全球电动汽车市场中占据主导地位。

@bradhawk5997
USA was the first to mass produce cars how do USA cars compare today vs foreign manufacturers? Auto manufacturing is the largest manufacturing sector! The fact USA’s cars are not even close to the best foreign manufacturers shows you where USA manufacturing is heading!

美国曾经是第一个大规模生产汽车的国家,但如今美国汽车与外国汽车相比表现如何呢?汽车制造业是规模最大的制造业部门之一。实际上,就连美国最好的汽车制造商也无法与外国品牌相媲美,这一现象反映了美国制造业的发展趋势。
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Elon Musk is smart for getting his manufacturing ideas from China & it was Russia who invented the reusable rockets & pass the blueprints to Elon! Reusable Rockets are no big deal for competent manufacturers allowing Space X to do it first saves followers $!

埃隆·马斯克非常聪明,他从中国学到了制造理念,俄罗斯发明了可重复使用的火箭,并将蓝图交给了埃隆。对于有实力的制造商来说,制造可重复使用的火箭并不是什么难事。让太空探索技术公司先做可以节省追随者的成本。

@peachychoc7905
I thought the SpaceX rocket exploded several times on lift off whereas Chin4’s Shenshou has already successfully sent their astronauts into space a few times now

我了解到太空探索技术公司的火箭在升空过程中曾多次发生爆炸,而中国神舟四号飞船已多次将宇航员成功送入太空。
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@thesheepthemightythecrazy
First successful landing by SpaceX was 2015. This is gonna take a while.

太空探索技术公司首次成功着陆是在2015年,这一过程需要一段时间。
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@PhilipWong55
Companies from various provinces and cities in China are engaged in fierce competition. This intense internal rivalry ensures that only the most successful will emerge to compete on the global stage. Rocket reusability is no different.

来自中国各个省市的企业之间展开了激烈的竞争,这种激烈的内部竞争确保了只有最具实力的公司才能出现在全球舞台上参与竞争。在火箭可重复使用方面也不例外。

@Y6287
as a strong spaceX fan, china will win this race im sure.

作为太空探索技术公司的忠实粉丝,我敢肯定中国必然会赢得这场比赛。

@NightSkyTower
Never bet against the Chinese..they play long games

千万不要与中国人对赌,他们擅长持久战。

@unglaubichuberlieber8048
you mentioned 15000 , 12000 satellites , lets assume the following: combined total 30000 satellites
in the next 5 years... "flying" in lower orbit... i hope some one has already foresee the traffic jam???

你提到那15000或12000颗卫星,让我们来做个假设:如果未来五年内总共有30000颗卫星同时在近地轨道上"飞翔"……我希望有人已经预先考虑到可能出现的交通拥堵问题。

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